Bob Fosse

Made films the shows talk about.

Wikidata Q313256: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.

Counted as craft. The films the hosts said they worked on, which the two lists below run through too: Damn Yankees. Count them as director (6 films), writer (1 film) instead.

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

No line says they, or a film of theirs, drew on anything.

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Adam Shankman: 1 line

  1. unmapped (heir) · them, directly: Bob Fosse ⇒ Adam Shankman (the host's read). Hairspray's visual language takes cues from choreography and editing as Fosse's did.
    “And so much of the visual language takes cues from the choreography and the editing.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:59:04 · Julie Klausner (0.50 sure it was them)

David Fincher: 1 line

  1. lineage (influence) · them, directly: Bob Fosse ⇒ David Fincher (the maker said so). Fincher loves Fosse.
    “Well, he loves Fosse.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:53:44 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Directing (9) everyone in directing

Writing (1) everyone in writing

Craft (1) everyone in craft

Other (1) everyone in other

What was said about them, by kind

career (1)

  1. career (career parallel): Bob Fosse → Francis Ford Coppola. Both followed a run of 70s masterpieces (Cabaret/Godfather, Lenny/Godfather II, All That Jazz/Apocalypse Now) with a decline.
    “Cabaret, Godfather, Godfather to Lenny, all that jazz apocalypse now.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:56:39 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

craft (1)

  1. craft (bloated musical): Oklahoma! → Bob Fosse. Oklahoma! stands for the bloated Hollywood musical the Fosse generation rebelled against.
    “the stuff that Fosse was rebelling”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:34:09 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

lineage (1)

  1. lineage (influence): Bob Fosse → David Fincher. Fincher loves Fosse.
    “Well, he loves Fosse.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:53:44 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (collaborator parallel): Bob Fosse → Polly Platt. Young 70s film geniuses (Bogdanovich/Platt, Lucas/Marcia) lost their creative edge after divorce as with Fosse and Verdon.
    “Get divorced and never fucking get back in the groove again, ever again.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:25:46 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

unmapped (8)

  1. unmapped (self-identification): Bob Fosse → Paul Snyder. Fosse identified with Snyder as the man he would be without success.
    “he is who I would be if I were not successful.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 0:18:20 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (mentor): Bob Fosse → Paddy Chayefsky. Chayefsky was Fosse's mentor/drinking buddy who told him the script needed no notes, and the film is dedicated to him.
    “Patty Shayvsky says, it's fine.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 0:24:54 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (creative partnership): Bob Fosse → Gwen Verdon. Verdon was trusted with choreography and direction, the family jewels of an auteur's ego.
    “those are the family jewels when it comes to an auteur's ego and that he was able to let her in”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:24:48 · Julie Klausner (0.70 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (declined): Bob Fosse → Thriller. Michael Jackson asked Fosse to shoot the Thriller video; he declined because Jackson was weird.
    “Michael Jackson asks him to shoot the music video for thriller, which is crazy.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:27:19 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (white whale): Bob Fosse → Robert De Niro. Fosse wanted De Niro for Snyder and was attached to a Winchell film with him.
    “a Walter Winchell movie that's going to star Robert De Niro, his big white whale at this point”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:30:19 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  6. unmapped (what-might-have-been): Michael Bennett → Bob Fosse. Julie wonders what a film career for Bennett, another director-choreographer lost to AIDS, would have looked like.
    “I think very frequently about what kind of filmmaker a Michael Bennett would have been or could have been.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:57:44 · Julie Klausner (0.60 sure it was them)
  7. unmapped (posthumous reach): Howard Ashman → Bob Fosse. Ashman had films with his fingerprints released after his death, showing a creator's ripple effect despite lost time.
    “there are like 3 films with his fingerprints on them on top of Little Shop, right?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:58:31 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  8. unmapped (heir): Adam Shankman → Bob Fosse. Hairspray's visual language takes cues from choreography and editing as Fosse's did.
    “And so much of the visual language takes cues from the choreography and the editing.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:59:04 · Julie Klausner (0.50 sure it was them)

verdict (1)

  1. verdict (favorite filmmaker): Bob Fosse → David Fincher. A host believes All That Jazz is one of Fincher's favorite films and Fosse a favorite filmmaker.
    “I believe one of David Fincher's favorite movies or Fosse's one of his favorite filmmakers.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · David Fincher Music Videos · 1:12:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

  1. fun, about Bob Fosse: Fosse expected All That Jazz to be his last act; his planned follow-up was nothing, and he turned down Chicago because he could not get it up for old material.
    “I can't get it up again for old material.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 0:17:15 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Bob Fosse: Late projects: Chicago, Dreamgirls, a Vampire Lestat musical with Bowie and Jagger, interest in Good Morning Vietnam, and a Winchell film with De Niro.
    “starring David Bowie and Mick Jagger.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 0:30:57 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Bob Fosse: After near-death experiences Fosse would try to live healthier for a month and then go back to chain smoking and squeezing nurses.
    “smoking cigarettes until they're burning in his mouth and squeezing every nurse's ass”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:14:08 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about Bob Fosse: Michael Jackson asked Fosse to direct Thriller; he declined because he found Jackson weird.
    “Bob Fosse declines because he thinks Michael Jackson is weird.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:27:37 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about Bob Fosse: Fosse died in Verdon's arms at an intersection in Washington DC during a Sweet Charity revival; friends dined on his tab per his will; a producer's last message from Bobby was about a script.
    “All his friends go out to dinner on his tab, which was specified in his will.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:31:56 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)