Susan Sarandon
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q133050: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.
Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Rocky (1976); Mission: Impossible (1996). Count them as actor (5 films) instead.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Chuck Wepner: 1 line
-
people (people) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
Chuck Wepner ⇒ Rocky (the host's read).
Stallone watched Wepner take a beating from Ali for 15 rounds and was inspired to write Rocky in 3.5 days.
“He's watching Webner Ali in 75, which was the real life version of this.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:19:58 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Jules Dassin: 1 line
-
lineage (homage source) · through Mission: Impossible (1996), which they were tied to as Claire casting what-if:
Jules Dassin ⇒ Mission: Impossible (the host's read).
Dassin's heist classics are the model for the Langley break-in.
“the Langley heist is an homage to the Jewel Statsen classics”
The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:49:53 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Psycho (1960): 1 line
-
lineage (Hitchcock structural homage) · through Mission: Impossible (1996), which they were tied to as Claire casting what-if:
Psycho ⇒ Mission: Impossible (the host's read).
Killing off Kristin Scott Thomas's star-billed character early mirrors Psycho killing Janet Leigh.
“it's completely Hitchcocky and it's killing Janet Lee after 40 minutes.”
The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:29:57 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
Rififi (1955): 1 line
-
lineage (heist homage) · through Mission: Impossible (1996), which they were tied to as Claire casting what-if:
Rififi ⇒ Mission: Impossible (the host's read).
The silent Langley vault heist echoes the Rififi heist where an alarm is triggered by sound.
“my favorite heist movies were Fifi, which has a heist uh, portion where they very similar, they drill through the roof and it's all in silence”
The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:24:41 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
The Fast and the Furious (2001): 1 line
-
lineage (franchise influence) · through Mission: Impossible (1996), which they were tied to as Claire casting what-if:
The Fast and the Furious ⇒ Mission: Impossible (the host's read).
The modern MI films combine Bourne-style hand-to-hand combat with Fast and the Furious over-the-top action.
“the 2 biggest influences on Mission Impossible are born in the Fast and the Furious.”
The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:18:47 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
The Fugitive (1993): 1 line
-
unmapped (TV-to-film precedent) · through Mission: Impossible (1996), which they were tied to as Claire casting what-if:
The Fugitive ⇒ Mission: Impossible (the host's read).
The Fugitive proved a classic TV property could be a big-screen box-office hit, which opened the door for Mission: Impossible.
“the fugitive proved that there was box office potential and television IP on the big screen.”
The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:02:32 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
The Lady Vanishes (1938): 1 line
-
lineage (Hitchcock homage) · through Mission: Impossible (1996), which they were tied to as Claire casting what-if:
The Lady Vanishes ⇒ Mission: Impossible (the host's read).
The European mystery shades of the film recall The Lady Vanishes and Shadow of a Doubt.
“Lady Vanishes or, or, uh, even like Shadow of a Doubt in some respects”
The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 1:06:25 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)
The Longest Yard: 1 line
-
lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
The Longest Yard ⇒ Rocky (the host's read).
Longest Yard arguably started the big-event beats, but Rocky is what made the sports-movie recipe stick.
“which I guess you could say longest yard started it, but once Rocky did this.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:06:09 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
Topkapi (1964): 1 line
-
lineage (heist homage) · through Mission: Impossible (1996), which they were tied to as Claire casting what-if:
Topkapi ⇒ Mission: Impossible (the host's read).
Langley heist is an homage to the Jules Dassin heist classics Topkapi and Rififi.
“the Langley heist is an homage to the Jewel Statsen classics of uh, top copy and uh, Rafifi.”
The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:49:53 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Creed (2015): 2 lines
-
lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
Rocky ⇒ Creed (the host's read).
Merchant says Creed repeated Rocky's trick of making you care about the character before the fighting.
“when they rebooted it with Creed, I think they did the same thing”
The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:46:07 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
Rocky ⇒ Creed (the host's read).
Creed closely follows Rocky's structure, but opens with Creed obviously able to fight, unlike Rocky's grim opening bout.
“in Creed, which very closely follows some of the structures of rocky.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:38:15 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
Fighting with My Family (2019): 2 lines
-
craft (craft) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
Rocky ⇒ Fighting with My Family (the maker said so: Merchant in this interview).
Merchant says you cannot make a sports movie without watching Rocky and all its sequels.
“make any kind of sports a movie without watching Rocky or indeed all of the Rockies”
The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:45:46 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
Rocky ⇒ Fighting with My Family (the maker said so: Merchant in this interview).
Merchant calls Rocky a template because it beds in character so you root for him before the fight, a lesson he applied.
“a template in the sense that it really beds in character”
The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:46:00 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them)
Mission: Impossible – Fallout (2018): 2 lines
-
lineage (callback) · through Mission: Impossible (1996), which they were tied to as Claire casting what-if:
Mission: Impossible ⇒ Mission: Impossible – Fallout (the host's read).
Every later MI film calls back to the Langley drop as a hallmark.
“I realized that they call back to that specific moment every time”
The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:06:37 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
industry (franchise template) · through Mission: Impossible (1996), which they were tied to as Claire casting what-if:
Mission: Impossible ⇒ Mission: Impossible – Fallout (the host's read).
Every MI film reuses the same three-set-piece structure plus a McGuffin, which is why the franchise is elastic.
“they used the same exact structure in every single movie that came forward.”
The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:11:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
(the modern sports movie): 1 line
-
lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
Rocky ⇒ (the modern sports movie) (the host's read).
Rocky created the sports-movie prototype and the modern underdog.
“created the sports movie prototype, like just period.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:05:47 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Bull Durham (1988): 1 line
-
lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
Rocky ⇒ Bull Durham (the host's read).
Bull Durham took the Rocky motto a level further in how a sports movie is written.
“how can we take that rocky motto and actually go the next level with how we write a movie”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:25:51 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
Cinderella Man (2005): 1 line
-
lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
Rocky ⇒ Cinderella Man (the host's read).
Rocky set up the idea that a victory transforms the supporting cast too, as in Cinderella Man where he fights for Giamatti.
“by the time you get to like Cinderella man, you realize that he's not just fighting for him, he's fighting for Giamatti.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:28:11 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
Raging Bull (1980): 1 line
-
theme (anti-genre) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
Rocky ⇒ Raging Bull (the maker said so).
Scorsese shot in black and white to differentiate from Rocky-era bright red-white-and-blue boxing movies, and producer Winkler produced both.
“Number one, I want to differentiate from the Rockies and all the other sort of boxing movies right now.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:08:55 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Rocky Balboa (2006): 1 line
-
lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
Rocky ⇒ Rocky Balboa (the host's read).
The little girl Marie from Rocky grows up to be the love interest in Rocky Balboa.
“she then becomes the Rocky Balboa love interest.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:14:31 · Van Lathan (0.45 sure it was them)
The Karate Kid (1984): 1 line
-
lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as auditioned for Adrian:
Rocky ⇒ The Karate Kid (the host's read).
Rocky is eight years before Karate Kid, which is called the 2.0 version of the same underdog story but a completely different movie in every respect.
“We're 8 years away from karate kid, which is the next, the 2.0 version of this movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:11:32 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Acting (5) everyone in acting
- actor, not nominated, Bull Durham (The Rewatchables, ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson)
- actor (cameo), The Player (The Rewatchables, 'The Player' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Wesley Morris)
- actor, Dead Man Walking (The Rewatchables, 'The Player' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Wesley Morris)
- actor, The Buddy System (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, The Client (The Big Picture, Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture)
Other (2) everyone in other
- auditioned for Adrian, Rocky (The Rewatchables, ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- Claire casting what-if, Mission: Impossible (The Rewatchables, 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion)
What was said about them, by kind
what-if (1)
-
what-if (what-if):
Adrian → Susan Sarandon.
Adrian auditions included Susan Sarandon and Cher; Sarandon was liked but too pretty.
“they auditioned a bunch of people, including Susan Sarandon and Cher.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:20:33 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
None.