John Toll

Made films the shows talk about.

Counted as cinematographer, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they shot, which the two lists below run through too: Iron Man 3 (2013).

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Iron Man (2008): 2 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they shot: Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). The Iron Man trilogy is closed into a circle by the flashback to the party and Becca Hall and Pierce.
    “as individualistic as this movie is, it actually like... It's bringing the 1st 2 complete.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they shot: Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). Iron Man 3 later parodies the Osama-type Mandarin expectation that Iron Man originally planned (Ten Rings leader, no magic).
    “And then Iron Man 3 wisely parodies that expectation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:25:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Avengers (2012): 2 lines

  1. theme (theme) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they shot: The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). Stark's arc across three Iron Man films peaks in Iron Man 3, and Avengers lays the track for its PTSD.
    “Iron Man 3 is all him being unable to cope with the psychological like trauma of this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:07:49 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they shot: The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). Iron Man 3 works as a quasi-sequel to The Avengers because it deals with Tony's trauma of the portal and aliens.
    “Except it's it is a sort of quasi sequel to the Avengers in that it's dealing with the fact that he got sucked into a portal into space for a 2nd there.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:15:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Fu Manchu (character): 1 line

  1. theme (theme) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they shot: Fu Manchu (character) ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). The Mandarin is a Fu Manchu stereotype that Marvel could not play straight, so Kingsley's false-flag twist threads the needle.
    “Because the Mandarin is Fu Manchu.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:06:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Iron Man 2 (2010): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they shot: Iron Man 2 ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). Iron Man 2's failure forced something new, giving Shane Black room to make a better third film.
    “But also, that is why the 3rd one is good because the 2nd one was such a mistake that they were like, we don't know.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:20:47 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

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What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

No line says anything drew on them or a film of theirs.

What the speakers said they did

Photography (1) everyone in photography

What was said about them, by kind

No claims join them to a film or another person.

Fun items about them

None.