Iron Man 3 (2013)

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Wikidata Q209538, film, IMDb tt1300854, TMDB 68721: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only film by that title; 9 more episodes agree.

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In the store as #508, Iron Man 3 (2013).

Who talked about it

Blank Check with Griffin & David

Blank Check — Patreon

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Iron Man: 2 lines the host's read ×2

  1. lineage (lineage): Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). The Iron Man trilogy is closed into a circle by the flashback to the party and Becca Hall and Pierce.
    “as individualistic as this movie is, it actually like... It's bringing the 1st 2 complete.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Avengers: 2 lines the host's read ×2

  1. theme (theme): The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). Stark's arc across three Iron Man films peaks in Iron Man 3, and Avengers lays the track for its PTSD.
    “Iron Man 3 is all him being unable to cope with the psychological like trauma of this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:07:49 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Fu Manchu (character): 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. theme (theme): Fu Manchu (character) ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). The Mandarin is a Fu Manchu stereotype that Marvel could not play straight, so Kingsley's false-flag twist threads the needle.
    “Because the Mandarin is Fu Manchu.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:06:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Iron Man 2: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Iron Man 2 ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). Iron Man 2's failure forced something new, giving Shane Black room to make a better third film.
    “But also, that is why the 3rd one is good because the 2nd one was such a mistake that they were like, we don't know.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:20:47 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

The Avengers: 5 lines industry ×2 lineage ×1 programming ×1 theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Avengers → Iron Man 3. Stark's arc across three Iron Man films peaks in Iron Man 3, and Avengers lays the track for its PTSD.
    “Iron Man 3 is all him being unable to cope with the psychological like trauma of this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:07:49 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Iron Man: 4 lines theme ×3 lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Iron Man 3 → Iron Man. The Iron Man trilogy is closed into a circle by the flashback to the party and Becca Hall and Pierce.
    “as individualistic as this movie is, it actually like... It's bringing the 1st 2 complete.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Iron Man 2: 4 lines contrast ×2 verdict ×1 lineage ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Iron Man 2 → Iron Man 3. Iron Man 3 is praised as the one that treats Tony's bravado as cover for PTSD and anxiety, which Iron Man 2 only half-attempts; Shane Black is credited with the Freudian analysis.
    “That's why I think Iron Man 3 is so good about being like, oh, all his like hockey is a cover for the fact that he is like a broken man suffering from PTSD and anxiety.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:25:11 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Captain America: The Winter Soldier: 2 lines industry ×1 programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Iron Man 3. Marvel gives each film a different genre; Winter Soldier is the political thriller, Iron Man 3 the noir/buddy film.
    “Right. So this is when they're like, Iron Man 3 is sort of like a noir and like a buddy film, Dark World is like high fantasy.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Rebecca Hall: 2 lines what-if ×1 industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Iron Man 3 → Rebecca Hall. Rebecca Hall was supposed to be the Iron Man 3 villain but Marvel said girl villains don't sell toys.
    “boys don't like movies where girls are bad guys and we won't be able to sell toys if it's a girl.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:53:25 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Thor: The Dark World: 2 lines industry ×1 contrast ×1

  1. industry (industry): Thor: The Dark World → Iron Man 3. This and Iron Man 3 are the first Marvel films with no Paramount logo before the Avengers logo.
    “this and Iron Man 3 are the 1st 2 movies fully devoid of Paramount, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:16:14 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

42: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): 42 → Iron Man 3. 42 and a run of April 2013 releases are compared in the Box Office Mojo segment.
    “That we waited this long for a Jackie Robinson movie and that Brian Helgeland ended up making it such a disappointment.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:23:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Air Force One: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Iron Man 3 → Air Force One. The mid-air Air Force One rescue gets the praise Air Force One itself earns for tension and offices.
    “Air Force One action is always good.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:50:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Avengers: Endgame: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Avengers: Endgame → Iron Man 3. Speaker wants an older Harley back in Endgame, a kid inspired by Stark who got into inventing.
    “It would be nice to see an older version of this kid who, like, was inspired by Tony Stark and we see where he is now.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:01:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Avengers: Infinity War: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Avengers: Infinity War → Iron Man 3. Iron Man 3 completes Tony's arc, so Spider-Man can be his second arc.
    “Iron Man 3 completes the Tony Arc”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:36:48 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)

Black Panther: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Black Panther → Iron Man 3. Speaker hopes Ryan Coogler goes as personal and unconstrained on Black Panther 2 as Black did here.
    “I kind of my hope is that Ryan Kugler is going to go totally Iron Man 3 with Black Panther, too.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:14:07 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Captain America: Civil War: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Iron Man 3 → Captain America: Civil War. The docks finale beats Civil War's airport fight; Marvel's wet-cement problem (no negative space).
    “You compare that to like the Civil War, the fucking airport.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:56:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Charlie Sheen: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Charlie Sheen. Tony giving out his address on TV is his Charlie Sheen meltdown moment.
    “This is like his Charlie Sheen moment.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:46:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Due Date: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Due Date. Both films interrogate Downey's star persona: we love him being an ass; here are the people he wronged.
    “This movie is interested in Robert Tank Jr.'s star persona and how weird it is.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:22:24 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Dumb and Dumber: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Iron Man 3 → Dumb and Dumber. Speakers defend the director of Green Book by praising his earlier comedies Dumb and Dumber, Kingpin and Something About Mary.
    “Dumb and Dumber is a masterpiece.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:42:10 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Eiffel 65: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Eiffel 65. The speaker says the 90s pop song 'Blue' over the opening is about the film and about Tony Stark.
    “Now, listen, this song is about the movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:03 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (unlabeled) (0.40 sure it was them)

Fu Manchu (character): 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Fu Manchu (character). The Mandarin is a Fu Manchu stereotype that Marvel could not play straight, so Kingsley's false-flag twist threads the needle.
    “Because the Mandarin is Fu Manchu.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:06:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Hiroshima: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → Hiroshima. The shadows of the dead on the wall after the blast recall Hiroshima.
    “like people's dead people's shadows are cast on the wall, like in Hiroshima.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:43:50 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Hotel Rwanda: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Iron Man 3 → Hotel Rwanda. Cheadle's single Oscar nomination is for Hotel Rwanda; Griffin has not seen it.
    “I've never seen the one movie he was nominated for NASCAR for.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:44:13 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Ike Perlmutter: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Ike Perlmutter → Iron Man 3. Perlmutter's no-girl-villain toy rule changed Rebecca Hall's villain role; afterward Feige negotiated to answer to Disney instead.
    “James Seamus was like, girl villains don't sell toys.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:20:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Jessica Chastain: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Jessica Chastain → Iron Man 3. Chastain reportedly turned down the Maya role as underwritten unless she could play the villain.
    “She turned it down because she was like... She was like, this is underwritten. Like, I'll do it if I can play the villain.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:21:02 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Jon Favreau: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Jon Favreau → Iron Man 3. Favreau earns an executive producer credit on any Iron Man movie because the franchise began with him.
    “Favreau getting a dine out with an executive producer credit on any movie that features Iron Man.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:39:25 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Lethal Weapon: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Iron Man 3 → Lethal Weapon. The shot of Stark and Rhodey peeking over a girder with guns has a Lethal Weapon vibe.
    “lethal weapon vibe, that shot of the 2 of them like peeking over a girder with like guns in their hands being...”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:43:33 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Liam Neeson: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → Liam Neeson. The trailer cut made Stark's TV threat read as a Liam Neeson moment, but in context it is a breakdown.
    “This is Liam Neeson moment of like, I will find you, I will kill you.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:46:23 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Mission: Impossible III: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Iron Man 3 → Mission: Impossible III. Misdirect villains usually deflate (Hoffman as the front for Crudup in MI3), but Kingsley's reveal enriches the themes.
    “Like, the classic example is like, Mission Impossible 3, when you realize that Philip Seymour Hoffman is just the front for Billy Kredup, you're like, I can't just rather watch the Philip Seymour Hoffman.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:33:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Mission: Impossible – Fallout: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → Mission: Impossible – Fallout. Speaker's anecdote of staying for the curtain call credits applies to Iron Man 3 end credits.
    “we can't leave before they give Tom his curtain call.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:18:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Oblivion: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): Oblivion → Iron Man 3. Oblivion released the same spring (Cruise sci-fi) and made 70% worldwide.
    “Oblivion, a Joseph Konsinski film.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:24:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Osama bin Laden: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Osama bin Laden. Trailers made people fear the Mandarin was a bin Laden analog; the twist reveals him as manufactured xenophobia.
    “Are they making like Mandarin and Sam bin Laden character?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:25:32 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Pain & Gain: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): Iron Man 3 → Pain & Gain. Pain & Gain opened the same spring with a big second-week drop; The Rock's performance is called the smartest use of him.
    “Smartest anyone has ever used him.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:21:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Shane Black: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Shane Black → Iron Man 3. Shane Black (cameo here) directed Iron Man 3, which cut Chris.
    “Director of Fireman 3, who later cut me from his film.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · As Good as It Gets with Chris Gethard · 1:36:26 · Chris Gethard (0.80 sure it was them)

The Break-Up: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Iron Man 3 → The Break-Up. Favreau and Vaughn's bar scene in The Break-Up is cited as a hall-of-fame scene, and the Favreau riffing is why he works as a utility player here.
    “Breakup has, I think, I contend one of the funniest scenes in movies.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:35:10 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Iron Giant: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → The Iron Giant. The suit's body parts bursting free are likened to The Iron Giant.
    “With the rest of the suit wants to get out, Iron Giant style.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:44:33 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Nice Guys: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Iron Man 3 → The Nice Guys. The jazzy 70s-cop-show end credits are described as Black's future movie vibe.
    “His future movie sort of vibe.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:17:32 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Thor: Ragnarok: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Thor: Ragnarok → Iron Man 3. Ragnarok relates to The Dark World as Iron Man 3 relates to Iron Man, a hard tonal reset on the prior entry.
    “Ragnarok is very much the Iron Man 3 to this movie's Iron Man.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:13:27 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Twilight: Breaking Dawn Part 2: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → Twilight: Breaking Dawn Part 2. They wish the end credits recognized the whole cast like Breaking Dawn Part 2 and Kill Bill 2 do.
    “Do you know how many times I've watched the closing credits of Twilight Breaking Dawn part two, like 50?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:19:33 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Under Siege 3: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Iron Man 3 → Under Siege 3. The docks finale (containers, catwalks) feels like a mid-nineties buddy-cop action movie.
    “But that's why this environment also works, is because, like, they're so in the buddy cut mill, you know, that it feels like, oh, this is like under siege 3 or something.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:59:00 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Vanilla Sky: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Vanilla Sky. The Elvis idea behind Vanilla Sky, lonely in a room where everyone knows who you are, is the Tony Stark thing Iron Man 3 digs into.
    “There's the Elvis quote that Cameron Crowe loves, which he said he based Vanilla Sky around, which is the feeling of being lonely in a room where everyone knows who you are.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:19 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

live-action Human Torch (film unnamed): 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → live-action Human Torch (film unnamed). The Extremis heat effect beats any live-action Human Torch; the Human Torch is a black bodysuit lit on fire.
    “I always felt like this effect in this looks better than any of the live action human torches.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:51:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (2)

  1. career (career): Shane Black → Iron Man 3. Shane Black (cameo here) directed Iron Man 3, which cut Chris.
    “Director of Fireman 3, who later cut me from his film.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · As Good as It Gets with Chris Gethard · 1:36:26 · Chris Gethard (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): Iron Man 3 → Hotel Rwanda. Cheadle's single Oscar nomination is for Hotel Rwanda; Griffin has not seen it.
    “I've never seen the one movie he was nominated for NASCAR for.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:44:13 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

contrast (6)

  1. contrast (contrast): Thor: The Dark World → Iron Man 3. Each Phase 2 film has its own look: this one is serious, Iron Man 3 resembles a 90s action film, Winter Soldier approximates a Sydney Pollack movie, Guardians is candy colored.
    “Iron Man 3 looks like a 90s like action film.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:34:27 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): Iron Man 3 → Iron Man 2. Black got the job because people hated Iron Man 2, so the studio needed a shakeup.
    “Because people hated Iron Man 2.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:09:34 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (contrast): Iron Man 3 → Mission: Impossible III. Misdirect villains usually deflate (Hoffman as the front for Crudup in MI3), but Kingsley's reveal enriches the themes.
    “Like, the classic example is like, Mission Impossible 3, when you realize that Philip Seymour Hoffman is just the front for Billy Kredup, you're like, I can't just rather watch the Philip Seymour Hoffman.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:33:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. contrast (contrast): Iron Man 3 → Captain America: Civil War. The docks finale beats Civil War's airport fight; Marvel's wet-cement problem (no negative space).
    “You compare that to like the Civil War, the fucking airport.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:56:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. contrast (contrast): Iron Man 3 → Under Siege 3. The docks finale (containers, catwalks) feels like a mid-nineties buddy-cop action movie.
    “But that's why this environment also works, is because, like, they're so in the buddy cut mill, you know, that it feels like, oh, this is like under siege 3 or something.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:59:00 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. contrast (contrast): Iron Man 2 → Iron Man 3. Iron Man 3's robot suits and extremis stuff are more varied than Iron Man 2's copy-paste drones.
    “Iron Man 3 does this too, but at least an Iron Man 3. They're a little different looking, and also the extremist stuff is its own thing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 1:37:27 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

craft (7)

  1. craft (craft): Avengers: Infinity War → Iron Man 3. Iron Man 3 completes Tony's arc, so Spider-Man can be his second arc.
    “Iron Man 3 completes the Tony Arc”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:36:48 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → Hiroshima. The shadows of the dead on the wall after the blast recall Hiroshima.
    “like people's dead people's shadows are cast on the wall, like in Hiroshima.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:43:50 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → Liam Neeson. The trailer cut made Stark's TV threat read as a Liam Neeson moment, but in context it is a breakdown.
    “This is Liam Neeson moment of like, I will find you, I will kill you.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:46:23 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → The Iron Giant. The suit's body parts bursting free are likened to The Iron Giant.
    “With the rest of the suit wants to get out, Iron Giant style.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:44:33 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → live-action Human Torch (film unnamed). The Extremis heat effect beats any live-action Human Torch; the Human Torch is a black bodysuit lit on fire.
    “I always felt like this effect in this looks better than any of the live action human torches.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:51:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → Mission: Impossible – Fallout. Speaker's anecdote of staying for the curtain call credits applies to Iron Man 3 end credits.
    “we can't leave before they give Tom his curtain call.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:18:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  7. craft (craft): Iron Man 3 → Twilight: Breaking Dawn Part 2. They wish the end credits recognized the whole cast like Breaking Dawn Part 2 and Kill Bill 2 do.
    “Do you know how many times I've watched the closing credits of Twilight Breaking Dawn part two, like 50?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:19:33 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

industry (7)

  1. industry (industry): Jon Favreau → Iron Man 3. Favreau earns an executive producer credit on any Iron Man movie because the franchise began with him.
    “Favreau getting a dine out with an executive producer credit on any movie that features Iron Man.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:39:25 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. industry (industry): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Iron Man 3. Marvel kept the logo fanfare off Iron Man 3, which used a blue joke.
    “Obviously, in Iron Man 3, it doesn't really happen because they do the blue joke, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:03:18 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  3. industry (industry): Thor: The Dark World → Iron Man 3. This and Iron Man 3 are the first Marvel films with no Paramount logo before the Avengers logo.
    “this and Iron Man 3 are the 1st 2 movies fully devoid of Paramount, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:16:14 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. industry (industry): Ike Perlmutter → Iron Man 3. Perlmutter's no-girl-villain toy rule changed Rebecca Hall's villain role; afterward Feige negotiated to answer to Disney instead.
    “James Seamus was like, girl villains don't sell toys.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:20:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. industry (industry): Iron Man 3 → Rebecca Hall. Rebecca Hall was supposed to be the Iron Man 3 villain but Marvel said girl villains don't sell toys.
    “boys don't like movies where girls are bad guys and we won't be able to sell toys if it's a girl.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:53:25 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. industry (industry): The Avengers → Iron Man 3. Disney paid $500M to buy the rights to those two before Paramount's deal ran out; each made over a billion.
    “So they pay them $500 million for the rights to just Avengers and Iron Man 3 before the deal moves on.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:22:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  7. industry (industry): Iron Man 3 → The Avengers. Paramount's logo is on both because Disney could not put its name on them, per contract.
    “Paramount's logo is in front of Iron Man 3 and Avengers.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:23:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

lineage (7)

  1. lineage (lineage): Thor: Ragnarok → Iron Man 3. Ragnarok relates to The Dark World as Iron Man 3 relates to Iron Man, a hard tonal reset on the prior entry.
    “Ragnarok is very much the Iron Man 3 to this movie's Iron Man.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:13:27 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): Iron Man 3 → The Avengers. Iron Man 3 works as a quasi-sequel to The Avengers because it deals with Tony's trauma of the portal and aliens.
    “Except it's it is a sort of quasi sequel to the Avengers in that it's dealing with the fact that he got sucked into a portal into space for a 2nd there.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:15:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage): Iron Man 3 → Iron Man. The Iron Man trilogy is closed into a circle by the flashback to the party and Becca Hall and Pierce.
    “as individualistic as this movie is, it actually like... It's bringing the 1st 2 complete.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. lineage (lineage): Iron Man 3 → Lethal Weapon. The shot of Stark and Rhodey peeking over a girder with guns has a Lethal Weapon vibe.
    “lethal weapon vibe, that shot of the 2 of them like peeking over a girder with like guns in their hands being...”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:43:33 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. lineage (lineage): Iron Man 3 → Air Force One. The mid-air Air Force One rescue gets the praise Air Force One itself earns for tension and offices.
    “Air Force One action is always good.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:50:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. lineage (lineage): Iron Man 3 → The Nice Guys. The jazzy 70s-cop-show end credits are described as Black's future movie vibe.
    “His future movie sort of vibe.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:17:32 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  7. lineage (lineage): Iron Man 2 → Iron Man 3. Iron Man 2's failure forced something new, giving Shane Black room to make a better third film.
    “But also, that is why the 3rd one is good because the 2nd one was such a mistake that they were like, we don't know.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:20:47 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (people): Iron Man 3 → The Break-Up. Favreau and Vaughn's bar scene in The Break-Up is cited as a hall-of-fame scene, and the Favreau riffing is why he works as a utility player here.
    “Breakup has, I think, I contend one of the funniest scenes in movies.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:35:10 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

programming (5)

  1. programming (programming): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Iron Man 3. Marvel gives each film a different genre; Winter Soldier is the political thriller, Iron Man 3 the noir/buddy film.
    “Right. So this is when they're like, Iron Man 3 is sort of like a noir and like a buddy film, Dark World is like high fantasy.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. programming (programming): Iron Man 3 → The Avengers. Phase 2 begins here and Avengers' victory lap gave Feige room to let each film feel individual.
    “They're on such a victory lap that it feels like this is the one little chunk of time where Kevin Feige lets go a little bit.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:16:00 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. programming (programming): Iron Man 3 → Pain & Gain. Pain & Gain opened the same spring with a big second-week drop; The Rock's performance is called the smartest use of him.
    “Smartest anyone has ever used him.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:21:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. programming (programming): 42 → Iron Man 3. 42 and a run of April 2013 releases are compared in the Box Office Mojo segment.
    “That we waited this long for a Jackie Robinson movie and that Brian Helgeland ended up making it such a disappointment.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:23:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. programming (programming): Oblivion → Iron Man 3. Oblivion released the same spring (Cruise sci-fi) and made 70% worldwide.
    “Oblivion, a Joseph Konsinski film.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:24:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

theme (10)

  1. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Eiffel 65. The speaker says the 90s pop song 'Blue' over the opening is about the film and about Tony Stark.
    “Now, listen, this song is about the movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:03 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (unlabeled) (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Vanilla Sky. The Elvis idea behind Vanilla Sky, lonely in a room where everyone knows who you are, is the Tony Stark thing Iron Man 3 digs into.
    “There's the Elvis quote that Cameron Crowe loves, which he said he based Vanilla Sky around, which is the feeling of being lonely in a room where everyone knows who you are.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:19 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Due Date. Both films interrogate Downey's star persona: we love him being an ass; here are the people he wronged.
    “This movie is interested in Robert Tank Jr.'s star persona and how weird it is.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:22:24 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Osama bin Laden. Trailers made people fear the Mandarin was a bin Laden analog; the twist reveals him as manufactured xenophobia.
    “Are they making like Mandarin and Sam bin Laden character?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:25:32 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Charlie Sheen. Tony giving out his address on TV is his Charlie Sheen meltdown moment.
    “This is like his Charlie Sheen moment.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:46:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Fu Manchu (character). The Mandarin is a Fu Manchu stereotype that Marvel could not play straight, so Kingsley's false-flag twist threads the needle.
    “Because the Mandarin is Fu Manchu.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:06:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  7. theme (theme): The Avengers → Iron Man 3. Stark's arc across three Iron Man films peaks in Iron Man 3, and Avengers lays the track for its PTSD.
    “Iron Man 3 is all him being unable to cope with the psychological like trauma of this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:07:49 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  8. theme (theme): Iron Man → Iron Man 3. Pepper is the secret of why the first film works and of why Iron Man 3 works.
    “Iron Man works best as a character through Pepper.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:18:36 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  9. theme (theme): Iron Man 3 → Iron Man. Iron Man 3 later parodies the Osama-type Mandarin expectation that Iron Man originally planned (Ten Rings leader, no magic).
    “And then Iron Man 3 wisely parodies that expectation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:25:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  10. theme (theme): Iron Man → Iron Man 3. Each sequel repeats the Tony-alone-in-the-basement-with-robots plot; Iron Man 3 does it better.
    “Tony Stark is very weird. He mostly sits in his basement building robots.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:33:38 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

verdict (2)

  1. verdict (verdict): Iron Man 3 → Dumb and Dumber. Speakers defend the director of Green Book by praising his earlier comedies Dumb and Dumber, Kingpin and Something About Mary.
    “Dumb and Dumber is a masterpiece.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:42:10 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (verdict): Iron Man 2 → Iron Man 3. Iron Man 3 is praised as the one that treats Tony's bravado as cover for PTSD and anxiety, which Iron Man 2 only half-attempts; Shane Black is credited with the Freudian analysis.
    “That's why I think Iron Man 3 is so good about being like, oh, all his like hockey is a cover for the fact that he is like a broken man suffering from PTSD and anxiety.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:25:11 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

what-if (4)

  1. what-if (what-if): Black Panther → Iron Man 3. Speaker hopes Ryan Coogler goes as personal and unconstrained on Black Panther 2 as Black did here.
    “I kind of my hope is that Ryan Kugler is going to go totally Iron Man 3 with Black Panther, too.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:14:07 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. what-if (what-if): Rebecca Hall → Iron Man 3. Hall's Maya was written as the true main villain, which would have made the film stronger.
    “It would have been more interesting if it was Rebecca Hall.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:20:38 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. what-if (what-if): Jessica Chastain → Iron Man 3. Chastain reportedly turned down the Maya role as underwritten unless she could play the villain.
    “She turned it down because she was like... She was like, this is underwritten. Like, I'll do it if I can play the villain.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:21:02 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. what-if (what-if): Avengers: Endgame → Iron Man 3. Speaker wants an older Harley back in Endgame, a kid inspired by Stark who got into inventing.
    “It would be nice to see an older version of this kid who, like, was inspired by Tony Stark and we see where he is now.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:01:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Iron Man 3: See the opening scene: Eiffel 65 'Blue' plays over the 1999 party; the song is called a perfect anthem for Tony Stark.
    “Now, listen, this song is about the movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Iron Man 3: Black's Christmas habit: he sets films at Christmas because it is the loneliest time of year.
    “Shane Black movies are always set at Christmas.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:23:39 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Iron Man 3: See the panic-attack scene on the sidewalk outside the party: the host calls it when he knows the movie is a masterpiece.
    “Like, this is when I go, oh, fuck, this movie is a masterpiece.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:29:34 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about Iron Man 3: Host recorded a podcast mid-dissociative episode; he links it to Tony puppeteering the suit.
    “And then I once recorded a podcast when I was in that state.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:30:52 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about Iron Man 3: See Tony in the garage talking to the dead suit on a ratty couch and the boy Harley.
    “Puts the suit on a ratty old couch.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:00:10 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about Iron Man 3: The hosts' ranking: the movie that loses people at the Mandarin reveal gets a five out of five star dismissal.
    “If the movie loses you here, go take a walk around the block.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:32:22 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about Iron Man 3: See the Air Force One rescue: the free-fall sequence was real stunt work with digital cleanup, Miami-clean 'collect ten people' objective.
    “This is actual stunt people.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:52:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about Iron Man 3: The mid-air rescue is praised as clear stakes, a game with an objective: collect everyone before the sky falls.
    “Like, you're playing a game. and you're saying, like, here's the objective. I have to collect all 10 people before the sky falls.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:53:24 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  9. fun, about Iron Man 3: The house party protocol: favorite armors named on the spot (Igor the hunchback, Skeleton, Heartbreaker, Pile Driver, Red Snapper).
    “They call him Igor because he's like hunchbacked.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:00:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  10. fun, about Iron Man 3: The Chinese cut adds a scene with a doctor played by Chinese-market actors; they recall it grinding the film to a halt.
    “There's an additional scene and it stars, like, actors that were recognizable in the Chinese market”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:14:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  11. fun, about Iron Man 3: See the end credits: Mark Ruffalo's Banner tag, a late replacement for a possibly shot Guardians scene.
    “I've heard that maybe they did shoot a guardian scene and cut it and then brought in Ruffalo late.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 2:26:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.