Don Payne
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q2502683: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by Wikidata joins them to Thor: The Dark World, which Thor: The Dark World credits them on.
Counted as writer. The films the hosts said they wrote, which the two lists below run through too: Looney Tunes: Back in Action (2003); My Super Ex-Girlfriend (2006); Thor (2011); Thor: The Dark World (2013); Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer; The Rise of the Silver Surfer.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
The Avengers (2012): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor: The Dark World (2013), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
The Dark World is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki: he becomes co-lead, Thor 1A to Loki 1B.
“This is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki, where they're like, we get it now.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Thor: The Dark World (2013), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
Avengers ends with the team scattering, which is why the Phase 2 sequels can stand alone.
“And also, Joss Wheaton's like master stroke at the end of Avengers is like, we're not a team.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:30:50 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Doctor Who (2023): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor: The Dark World (2013), which they wrote:
Doctor Who ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
Marvel in general is indebted to Doctor Who's tone of lightness, comedy, hope and teamwork, especially the Russell T Davies era.
“I think Marvel in general is very kind of indebted to Doctor Who with the same tone of like lightness and comedy and hope and team teamwork.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 2:02:06 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Game of Thrones (2011): 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Thor: The Dark World (2013), which they wrote:
Game of Thrones ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
The film aims for a grounded, muddy fantasy in the Game of Thrones manner, away from Branagh's version.
“We want to make a more grounded fantasy away from the bran off.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:11:39 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
J. Michael Straczynski: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they wrote:
J. Michael Straczynski ⇒ Thor (the host's read).
The film borrows heavily from Straczynski's celebrated Thor run, including Thor spending time in the Midwest.
“the celebrated Thor arc was J. Michael Stratinsky, which is this is borrowing from heavily.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:28 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Masters of the Universe (1987): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they wrote:
Masters of the Universe ⇒ Thor (the host's read).
Thor is described as essentially a remake of the live-action Masters of the Universe.
“It's mostly just a remake of the live action masters of the universe movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:03:54 · Griffin Newman (0.65 sure it was them)
Stan Lee: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they wrote:
Stan Lee ⇒ Thor (the host's read).
The Donald Blake identity came from Stan Lee's 60s devotion to the secret-identity trope; the movie keeps it only as a fake ID gag.
“in the 60s, Stanley was a little slavishly devoted to like the classic superhero comic trope, so you needed a secret identity”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
The Simpsons (1989): 1 line
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career (career) · them, directly:
The Simpsons ⇒ Don Payne (the host's read).
Payne's weirder ideas in superhero movies came out of his Simpsons background.
“But I think it came out of the Simpsons.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:46:13 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
No line says anything drew on them or a film of theirs.
What the speakers said they did
Writing (8) everyone in writing
- writer (original draft; died), Thor: The Dark World (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor: The Dark World)
- writer, Thor (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor: The Dark World)
- writer, The Rise of the Silver Surfer (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor: The Dark World)
- writer, Looney Tunes: Back in Action (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor: The Dark World)
- co-writer, Thor (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor)
- co-writer, Thor: The Dark World (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor)
- writer, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor)
- writer, My Super Ex-Girlfriend (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor)
What was said about them, by kind
career (3)
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career (career):
Don Payne → The Rise of the Silver Surfer (Fantastic Four 2).
Payne wrote Thor 1 and Rise of the Silver Surfer, which is better than the first Fantastic Four because of him.
“And he wrote Rise of Silver Surfer, which I think is the reason why it's a little better than the 1st one.”
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career (career):
Don Payne → The Simpsons.
Payne's weirder ideas in superhero movies came out of his Simpsons background.
“But I think it came out of the Simpsons.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:46:13 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Thor → Don Payne.
Comedy writer Payne came from The Simpsons and wrote Fantastic Four 2 and My Super Ex-Girlfriend before Marvel brought him in to make Thor funny.
“he was big into this, like, I know how to make Thor funny, so that'll be more approachable.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:39:00 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)
people (1)
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people (people):
Thor: The Dark World → Don Payne.
Don Payne wrote the original draft, his last script; the portal-fight gimmick likely came from his comedy and Simpsons background.
“I wouldn't be surprised if this was a thing that Don Payne brought in.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:45:38 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
None.