Stan Lee

Made films the shows talk about.

Wikidata Q181900: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by Wikidata joins them to The Avengers, which The Avengers credits them on.

Counted as writer, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they wrote, which the two lists below run through too: Iron Man (2008); Thor (2011); Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018); Marvel comics. Count them as actor (4 films) instead.

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Stan Lee: 2 lines, within their own work

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they wrote: Stan Lee ⇒ Iron Man (the maker said so: Stan Lee interviews). The film follows the first comic issue's origin; Lee wanted to make an industrialist war profiteer compelling to hippie kids.
    “here's like an industrialist, war profiteer, Laos, and make him like compelling to these, like, hippie kids.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:27:36 · unknown (probably David) (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they wrote: Stan Lee ⇒ Thor (the host's read). The Donald Blake identity came from Stan Lee's 60s devotion to the secret-identity trope; the movie keeps it only as a fake ID gag.
    “in the 60s, Stanley was a little slavishly devoted to like the classic superhero comic trope, so you needed a secret identity”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

J. Michael Straczynski: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they wrote: J. Michael Straczynski ⇒ Thor (the host's read). The film borrows heavily from Straczynski's celebrated Thor run, including Thor spending time in the Midwest.
    “the celebrated Thor arc was J. Michael Stratinsky, which is this is borrowing from heavily.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:28 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Masters of the Universe (1987): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they wrote: Masters of the Universe ⇒ Thor (the host's read). Thor is described as essentially a remake of the live-action Masters of the Universe.
    “It's mostly just a remake of the live action masters of the universe movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:03:54 · Griffin Newman (0.65 sure it was them)

Panic Room (2002): 1 line

  1. unmapped (set the template for) · through Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018), which they wrote: Panic Room ⇒ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (the host's read). A host says Fincher's all-previs approach on this film created the pipeline for how blockbusters are made.
    “But that disc 2 is so much about that he basically created the pipeline for how all fucking blockbusters are made on this movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 0:31:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

RoboCop (2014): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they wrote: RoboCop ⇒ Iron Man (the host's read). The Ironmonger voice and suit recall ED-209, and the finale is ED-209 versus RoboCop.
    “You know what the voice is? He's Ed 209.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:53:20 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018), which they wrote: Scott Pilgrim vs. the World ⇒ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (the host's read). Sean says Deadpool, the Lego movie and Spider-Verse could not happen without this film having broken the fourth wall first.
    “Deadpool, for example, can't happen or like the Lego movie can't happen or into the Spider-Verse.”
    The Big Picture · Celebrating ‘Scott Pilgrim vs. the World’ 10 Years Later With Edgar Wright · 0:17:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Iron Man 3 (2013): 2 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they wrote: Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). The Iron Man trilogy is closed into a circle by the flashback to the party and Becca Hall and Pierce.
    “as individualistic as this movie is, it actually like... It's bringing the 1st 2 complete.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme) · through Iron Man (2008), which they wrote: Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). Iron Man 3 later parodies the Osama-type Mandarin expectation that Iron Man originally planned (Ten Rings leader, no magic).
    “And then Iron Man 3 wisely parodies that expectation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:25:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Ghostface Killah: 1 line

  1. people (people) · through Iron Man (2008), which they wrote: Iron Man ⇒ Ghostface Killah (the host's read). Ghostface is the Wu-Tang member particularly obsessed with Iron Man, who is the avatar of many of his songs.
    “Iron Man is like the like his hero.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:40:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Iron Man (2008): 1 line, within their own work

  1. lineage (lineage) · them, directly: Stan Lee ⇒ Iron Man (the maker said so: Stan Lee interviews). The film follows the first comic issue's origin; Lee wanted to make an industrialist war profiteer compelling to hippie kids.
    “here's like an industrialist, war profiteer, Laos, and make him like compelling to these, like, hippie kids.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:27:36 · unknown (probably David) (0.40 sure it was them)

Teen Titans Go! To the Movies (2018): 1 line

  1. craft (craft) · through Iron Man (2008), which they wrote: Iron Man ⇒ Teen Titans Go! To the Movies (the host's read). That film parodies the page-flipping Marvel logo, which opens Iron Man.
    “They, uh, they do a really good parody of that in, um, Teen Titans go the movies.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:08:41 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Avengers (2012): 1 line

  1. industry (industry) · through Iron Man (2008), which they wrote: Iron Man ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read). The post-credits Nick Fury scene established the shared-universe model that changed Hollywood for a decade or more.
    “I mean, this has changed the next 10 years of Hollywood filmmaking.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:13:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Thor (2011): 1 line, within their own work

  1. lineage (lineage) · them, directly: Stan Lee ⇒ Thor (the host's read). The Donald Blake identity came from Stan Lee's 60s devotion to the secret-identity trope; the movie keeps it only as a fake ID gag.
    “in the 60s, Stanley was a little slavishly devoted to like the classic superhero comic trope, so you needed a secret identity”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

modern superhero movies: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they wrote: Iron Man ⇒ modern superhero movies (the host's read). Called the prototype format every later superhero film riffs on.
    “this is the prototype for the modern superhero movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:09:11 · unknown (Griffin or David) (0.30 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Writing (5) everyone in writing

Acting (4) everyone in acting

Other (1) everyone in other

What was said about them, by kind

craft (2)

  1. craft (craft): Stan Lee → George Lucas. Lucas and Spielberg not talking down to young audiences echoes Stan Lee's magic.
    “that was kind of Stan Lee's magic too.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis · 1:30:57 · Brian Michael Bendis (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): Stan Lee → Iron Man 2. The Stan Lee cameo running joke is mistaken identity: Hugh Hefner here, Larry King in Iron Man 2, then they dropped it.
    “In Iron Man 2, they think he's Larry King.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:16:15 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

industry (1)

  1. industry (industry): Clark Gregg → Stan Lee. Agent Coulson popping up is the next-stage Stan Lee cameo, an in-on-the-joke moment.
    “He is like the, the, the next stage Stan lease.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:45:20 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

lineage (2)

  1. lineage (lineage): Thor → Stan Lee. The Donald Blake identity came from Stan Lee's 60s devotion to the secret-identity trope; the movie keeps it only as a fake ID gag.
    “in the 60s, Stanley was a little slavishly devoted to like the classic superhero comic trope, so you needed a secret identity”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): Iron Man → Stan Lee. The film follows the first comic issue's origin; Lee wanted to make an industrialist war profiteer compelling to hippie kids.
    “here's like an industrialist, war profiteer, Laos, and make him like compelling to these, like, hippie kids.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:27:36 · unknown (probably David) (0.40 sure it was them)

theme (1)

  1. theme (analogy): Vladimir Nabokov → Stan Lee. Writing Lolita is likened to Stan Lee giving himself the hardest character to sell, with Iron Man.
    “Um, and Lolita was like that stage of Nabakov's career where he was just like, fuck it, I'm coming for you.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Lolita with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:31:43 · unknown (0.00 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

  1. fun, about Stan Lee: See the cameo where Stan Lee is mistaken for Hugh Hefner; in Iron Man 2 it's Larry King; the running joke was dropped.
    “Yeah, so in this, he thinks it's Hugh Hefner.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:15:56 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)