Marcia Lucas
Made films the shows talk about.
Counted as craft, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they worked on, which the two lists below run through too: Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back (1980); Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983); Star Wars (A New Hope). Count them as producer (0 films) instead.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Casablanca (1942): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983), which they worked on as editor:
Casablanca ⇒ Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (the host's read).
Jabba's court is conceived as Sydney Greenstreet crossed with Casablanca.
“The concept is he's sort of like Sidney Green Street and then Casablanca, yeah.”
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Revenge of the Sith: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983), which they worked on as editor:
Revenge of the Sith ⇒ Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (the host's read).
Lucas added a 'No' to Vader's turn in Jedi that matches Revenge of the Sith.
“same fucking no from the end of Avenge of the Sith.”
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Star Wars (A New Hope): 1 line, within their own work
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craft (craft) · through Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983), which they worked on as editor:
Star Wars (A New Hope) ⇒ Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (the host's read).
Leia pulls the Chewbacca-in-manacles disguise trick from A New Hope when infiltrating Jabba's palace.
“pulling the same trick that they pulled in New Hope, that like Chewbacca in Manacles trick.”
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Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope (1977): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983), which they worked on as editor:
Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope ⇒ Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (the host's read).
A second, bigger Death Star is called a lateral remake of the first.
“We're kind of, it's like a lateral remake.”
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Sydney Greenstreet: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983), which they worked on as editor:
Sydney Greenstreet ⇒ Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (the host's read).
Jabba is said to be visually based on Sydney Greenstreet.
“He's based on Sydney Green Street, right?”
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Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
The Phantom Menace (1999): 3 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983), which they worked on as editor:
Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ⇒ The Phantom Menace (the host's read).
Sees seeds planted in Jedi that bloom in the prequels.
“you see the things, the mechanations starting to come into place a little bit.”
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lineage (lineage) · through Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983), which they worked on as editor:
Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ⇒ The Phantom Menace (the host's read).
The Obi-Wan log scene starts the over-explanation that typifies the prequels.
“tiptoe towards the problems of the Phantom Madness trilogy, whereas, like, where it's all explained out loud.”
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lineage (lineage) · through Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983), which they worked on as editor:
Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ⇒ The Phantom Menace (the host's read).
Ewok guerrilla tactics echo the Gungan thing in Phantom Menace, though that one is far worse.
“And it just sort of reminds you of the Gungen thing, which is way worse, but is in the same, like, ballpark.”
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20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (unmade Fincher project): 1 line
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unmapped (model for the unmade film) · through Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back (1980), which they worked on as editor of all three original films:
Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back ⇒ 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (unmade Fincher project) (the maker said so: in interviews).
In interviews Fincher says he wanted 20,000 Leagues to be his Empire Strikes Back, a dark film that still works for children.
“I wanted to make my Empire Strikes Back in that I have always found it astonishing how dark Empire Strikes Back is while working as a movie for children.”
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Lego Star Wars: 1 line
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lineage (adaptation) · through Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983), which they worked on as editor:
Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ⇒ Lego Star Wars (the host's read).
Lego game levels from Jedi are always fun; the prequels' plot-heavy levels play less well.
“weirdly, like Return of the Jedi levels are always really fun to play.”
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Revenge of the Sith: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983), which they worked on as editor:
Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ⇒ Revenge of the Sith (the host's read).
The Emperor in Jedi sits in a chair saying roughly the same things as in the identical-chair scene in Revenge of the Sith.
“he's basically saying most of the same thing.”
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Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983): 1 line, within their own work
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craft (craft) · through Star Wars (A New Hope), which they worked on as editor, won an Oscar for the first one:
Star Wars (A New Hope) ⇒ Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (the host's read).
Leia pulls the Chewbacca-in-manacles disguise trick from A New Hope when infiltrating Jabba's palace.
“pulling the same trick that they pulled in New Hope, that like Chewbacca in Manacles trick.”
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The Incredibles (2004): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (1983), which they worked on as editor:
Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi ⇒ The Incredibles (the host's read).
The speeder bike forest chase is a clear inspiration for the Incredibles chase.
“This is such a big inspiration too, clearly, on the Incredibles chase sequence.”
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What the speakers said they did
Craft (4) everyone in craft
- editor, Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (Blank Check — Patreon, Return of the Jedi)
- editor of all three original films, Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (Blank Check — Patreon, Return of the Podcast (Ad-Free))
- editor, won an Oscar for the first one, Star Wars (A New Hope) (Blank Check — Patreon, Return of the Podcast (Ad-Free))
- editor of all three original films, Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back (Blank Check — Patreon, Return of the Podcast (Ad-Free))
Producing (1) everyone in producing
- produced a short film in 1996 (Blank Check — Patreon, Return of the Podcast (Ad-Free))
What was said about them, by kind
people (3)
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people (people):
Marcia Lucas → Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi.
Marcia Lucas (transcribed Marshall) edited the film, her last with Lucas; they divorce right after.
“Well, Marshall Lucas did edit this movie.”
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people (people):
Marcia Lucas → Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi.
Marcia Lucas edited all three originals and helped develop the scripts, and Jedi was her last editing job.
“Her last editing job ever was Return of the Jedi.”
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people (people):
Marcia Lucas → George Lucas.
The speakers theorize Lucas's divorce, and loss of her reining-in, drives the special-edition tinkering and the end-credit editor change.
“Like she was the one who was kind of keep reining him in?”
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Fun items about them
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fun, about
Marcia Lucas:
The host claims Marcia Lucas married the man who installed the glass window at Skywalker Ranch that Lucas must walk under daily.
“Married the man who installed the same glass window at Skywalker Ranch.”
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fun, about
Marcia Lucas:
Theory that Lucas's divorce explains special editions; end credits show a different editor so she gets no residuals.
“But a different editor.”
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