Blank Check — Patreon: Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free)
Published 2023-11-12; 3:12:35 by the feed.
As extracted (engineer-sonnet-2026-10-13)
The extraction calls the show “Blank Check with Griffin & David (Patreon)” and the episode “Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free)”.
Hosts: Griffin Newman, David Sims, Ben Hosley. Guests: Esther Zuckerman.
Subject films: Gone Girl (2014).
On the transcript: Unlabelled speakers throughout; most host attributions are low confidence and the long Fincher-commentary and dossier passages are tagged 'unknown'. Dialogue is run-together, with many names mangled and some jokes cut off mid-line.
Added from the extractor's memory, not said
- I used surnames only where the speakers did (Reznor and Ross, Cronenweth); I did not add first names.
- The speakers say Reese Witherspoon got an Oscar nomination for 'the Ricardos' (Being the Ricardos); I recorded the film as said and did not credit Witherspoon with a role in it.
- Corrected spellings of Ceán Chaffin, Singani 63, Soderbergh, Reznor, Cronenweth, Messerschmidt, Ratajkowski, Pyle, Banes, McNairy, Fugit, Kloves, Lehane, McG, Mbatha-Raw, Essie Davis, Cotillard, Baryshnikov come from my own knowledge of the names, guided by the sound of the transcript.
- Two guesses recorded as mangled names (the title of Esther's book; the name of Bob's ex) are not certain.
Films that came up
compared (9)
The Killer · Wild · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo · Sharp Objects (TV) · A Simple Plan · Argo · The Way Back · Promising Young Woman · Fight Club
passing (123)
Mank · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button · Titanic · Kill Bill · The Marvels · Zodiac · The Social Network · The Empire Strikes Back · John Carter · Tron: Legacy · The Falcon and the Winter Soldier (TV) · Avatar · Tomorrowland · The Crown (TV) · Fall of the House of Usher (TV) · The Diplomat (TV) · Bridgerton (TV) · The Night Agent (TV) · Emily in Paris (TV) · Mystic River · Freaky Friday · The Thomas Crown Affair · All of Us Strangers · Lolita · A Clockwork Orange · The Talented Mr. Ripley · Harry Potter films · Sweet Home Alabama · The Morning Show (TV) · Mud · Election · Inherent Vice · Hot Pursuit · Home Again · A Wrinkle in Time · Big Little Lies (TV) · Little Fires Everywhere (TV) · Being the Ricardos · Pride & Prejudice · Saltburn · Priscilla · Bright Star · Jack Reacher · Mission: Impossible · Scott Pilgrim (animated show) · Fremont · Amanda · Mad Men (TV) · The Newsroom (TV) · Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice · Justice League · Armageddon · Reindeer Games · Gigli · Pearl Harbor · Air · Lincoln · Zero Dark Thirty · Life of Pi · The Bourne Identity · Good Will Hunting · Gone Baby Gone · The Town · Live by Night · The Last Duel · Triple Frontier · Deep Water · Hypnotic · To the Wonder · Runner Runner · The Lincoln Lawyer · The Accountant · Still Alice · Two Days, One Night · The Theory of Everything · The Leftovers (TV) · Interstellar · Edge of Tomorrow · Listen Up Philip · Beyond the Lights · The Babadook · We Bought a Zoo · Love & Death (TV) · "Blurred Lines" (music video) · Se7en · Those Who Wish Me Dead · Don't Look Up · Vice · Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles · Star Trek · Brain on Fire · Glengarry Glen Ross · Madea's Tough Love · Boo! A Madea Halloween · Once and Again (TV) · The Straight Story · Melvin and Howard · Married to the Mob · The Game · Mindhunter (TV) · Ferrari · Heat · Birdman · American Sniper · The Imitation Game · Whiplash · The Grand Budapest Hotel · Foxcatcher · Annabelle · The Conjuring · The Equalizer · Kubo and the Two Strings · The Boxtrolls · The Maze Runner · Planet of the Apes (new series) · Left Behind · This Is Where I Leave You · Dolphin Tale 2 · Guardians of the Galaxy · No Good Deed · All Good Things · Luther (TV) · The Empty Man
subject (1)
anecdote (8)
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (unmade Fincher project) · Cleopatra (unmade Fincher project) · Star Wars: Episode VII (unmade Fincher project) · House of Cards (TV) · Dark Places · Strangers on a Train (unmade Fincher/Flynn project) · Alex Cross · World War Z (unmade Fincher sequel)
Claims (44)
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lineage (originated the project):
Reese Witherspoon → Gone Girl.
Witherspoon took the book and had the idea of bringing Fincher on board.
“takes this book, has the smart idea, bring Fincher on board.”
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what-if (what-if casting):
Reese Witherspoon → Gone Girl.
Fincher told Witherspoon at once that she would not star; the speakers debate whether she would have worked as Amy.
“Fincher immediately says, by the way, you're not starting in this.”
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people (replaced as director):
McG → David Fincher.
Fincher took over 20,000 Leagues from Disney's first choice, McG.
“taking over from their 1st choice, McGee.”
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unmapped (model for the unmade film):
Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back → 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (unmade Fincher project).
In interviews Fincher says he wanted 20,000 Leagues to be his Empire Strikes Back, a dark film that still works for children.
“I wanted to make my Empire Strikes Back in that I have always found it astonishing how dark Empire Strikes Back is while working as a movie for children.”
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industry (studio strategy):
John Carter → 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (unmade Fincher project).
While Fincher failed to launch 20,000 Leagues, Disney bought Marvel and Star Wars and stopped needing original tentpoles like John Carter.
“Marvel and Star Wars get acquired and they're like, we never need to make a John Carter ever again.”
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people (replaced as director):
Paul Greengrass → David Fincher.
Fincher took over Cleopatra from Greengrass, and it began as a James Cameron project.
“Taking over from Paul Greengrass that was originally a James Cameron project.”
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unmapped (scheduling conflict):
Tomorrowland → Star Wars: Episode VII (unmade Fincher project).
Brad Bird passed on Star Wars because he was doing Tomorrowland.
“says, I would do it if I weren't doing Tomorrowland.”
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craft (house style):
David Fincher → Netflix.
The speaker says Netflix shows now look like a watered-down Fincher because he established the look of Netflix.
“we're kind of living in a world where everything is forced to look like a bad Fincher project because he established the look of Netflix.”
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lineage (inspired her approach):
Mystic River → Gillian Flynn.
After failed attempts at novels, Flynn read Mystic River and took from it the idea of a crime that is a red herring for a character story.
“She said she had many failed attempts and then read Dennis Lahain's Mystic River, which, in my opinion, is an incredible piece of writing.”
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unmapped (template (crime as red herring)):
Mystic River → Sharp Objects (TV).
Sharp Objects and Dark Places are described as Flynn's attempts at the Mystic River-style crime-as-red-herring structure.
“And so sharp objects and dark places are both kind of like attempts at that, right?”
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industry (marketing tie-in):
Gone Girl → Dark Places.
Dark Places was sold off Gone Girl, with the Gone Girl one-sheet on its poster; a business pairing, not a creative claim.
“Dark Places came out a year after Gone Girl and had like Gone Girl on the poster.”
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lineage (adaptation):
Gone Girl (Gillian Flynn novel) → Gone Girl.
The film adapts Flynn's novel, and the first-person diary trickery was the open question about how it would work on screen.
“Because it is such like a little fun piece of 1st person narration trickery.”
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unmapped (brought the manuscript to):
Leslie Dixon → Reese Witherspoon.
Dixon read the manuscript and delivered it to Witherspoon.
“reads the manuscript, takes it right to the top of Sunshine Mountain and delivers it to Reese Witherspoon.”
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lineage (adaptation model):
A Simple Plan → Gone Girl.
Flynn used A Simple Plan as her model for adapting her own novel, then worried she could not match it.
“And she said, so I tried to use that as a model and then I freaked myself out because I was like, well, this is too good. I won't do this well.”
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career (announced next project):
Gone Girl → Strangers on a Train (unmade Fincher/Flynn project).
Fincher and Flynn almost at once announced a Strangers on a Train that never happened.
“they almost immediately announced after this, the strangers on a train that doesn't happen.”
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lineage (adaptation advice):
Steve Kloves → Gone Girl.
Flynn asked Kloves how he handled the Harry Potter adaptations; the speaker does not say it shaped the script.
“She goes to Steve Cloves and is like, how did you adapt the Harry Potter books?”
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unmapped (Hitchcock blonde):
Alfred Hitchcock → Gone Girl.
Fincher says he read the book and felt Amy had to be a Hitchcock blonde, which is not Witherspoon's type.
“I read this and I immediately felt in need to be a Hitchcock blonde, which is just not who Reese is as a type.”
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unmapped (led to):
Big Little Lies (TV) → Sharp Objects (TV).
After Big Little Lies, projects like Sharp Objects became miniseries rather than movies.
“And it kind of changes everything where then that type of project becomes, you do it as a miniseries.”
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unmapped (co-star encouragement):
Tom Cruise → Rosamund Pike.
Pike emailed her Jack Reacher co-star Cruise the night before shooting and he wrote back that she was in the hands of a great director.
“And he emailed back, trust yourself, you're in the hands of a great director.”
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what-if (what-if casting):
Jon Hamm → Gone Girl.
Hamm was considered for Nick Dunne but his Mad Men schedule blocked it.
“John Hamm is considered for the role of Nick Dunn.”
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people (casting approach):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Gone Girl.
The speaker thinks Fincher's exhaustive casting search on Dragon Tattoo informed how he cast Amy with someone new to the audience.
“that exhaustive casting search, which I do think informs the way he approaches Amy going into this movie as well”
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career (career comp):
Ben Affleck → Ryan O'Neal.
Affleck's 90s image as a star the public mocked is compared to Ryan O'Neal.
“A little bit of like a Ryan O'Neill thing, right?”
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career (career contrast):
Ben Affleck → Matt Damon.
Damon did the serious prestige work while Affleck made the big blockbusters.
“Damon was doing the serious prestige stuff with serious filmmakers, and Affleck makes the big dumb blockbusters that people like, but they're not taken seriously.”
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unmapped (lesson learned):
Runner Runner → Gone Girl.
Affleck reportedly said Runner Runner was a mistake and he should only work with top-tier directors; the speaker does not tie it to Gone Girl by name.
“this was a mistake. I need to only work with like really top tier directors”
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unmapped (led to):
The Accountant → The Way Back.
The Accountant got Affleck linked up with Gavin O'Connor, which got him The Way Back.
“It also got him linked up with Gavin O'Connor. It got him the way back”
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people (led to casting):
Gone Girl → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
While making Gone Girl, Affleck reportedly joked to his agent that he needed a heroic-chin movie after the evil-chin one.
“the joke was the chin things in the script, he calls up his agent, while making Gone Girl, and says, like, I'm doing the evil chin movie now, you got to find me a heroic chin movie.”
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contrast (persona contrast):
Mad Men → Gone Girl.
The speaker argues Hamm's Don Draper unknowability would sit on the surface where Affleck's reads as real doubt.
“Ham would be affecting a thing that just exists on the surface of Affleck.”
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unmapped (shared detail):
Gone Girl → The Way Back.
Natty Ice appears in Gone Girl and is also Affleck's beer in The Way Back.
“I feel like Natty Ice is also his beer in the way back.”
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people (casting suggestion):
Ben Affleck → Emily Ratajkowski.
On the commentary Fincher says he did not know how to cast the mistress and Affleck pointed him to a music video.
“he says, I didn't know how to cast for this part, and Affleck goes like, well, you should watch this music video.”
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contrast (contrast):
Gone Girl → Promising Young Woman.
Gone Girl's cool-girl monologue is praised as clear; Promising Young Woman is said to lack a clear worldview.
“But I think that is a movie that, like, on a pretty fundamental level, does not really have a clarity in what it is saying or what its worldview is.”
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unmapped (unreliable voiceover):
Fight Club → Gone Girl.
Fight Club, Gone Girl and The Killer share voiceover that turns out to be lying.
“But like, Fight Club, Gone, Girl, and the killer are all very unreliable voice.”
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unmapped (unreliable voiceover):
The Killer → Gone Girl.
Fight Club, Gone Girl and The Killer share voiceover that turns out to be lying.
“But like, Fight Club, Gone, Girl, and the killer are all very unreliable voice.”
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people (led to casting):
Alex Cross → Gone Girl.
Perry's turn in Alex Cross is given as the reason Fincher cast him as Tanner Bolt.
“Well, that's why Fisher cast him in this.”
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what-if (what-if):
Gone Girl → Alex Cross.
If Gone Girl had come first, a better Alex Cross franchise might have been built around Perry.
“If Gone Girl had come first. And then he was like, I want to take on Alex Cross.”
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theme (character type (Tanner Bolt)):
Glengarry Glen Ross → Gone Girl.
Fincher reportedly said the book's Tanner Bolt reads like Baldwin in Glengarry and would have turned the audience against him.
“The way it reads on paper is you imagine him being more of a like Baldwin and Glengarry Glenn Bross.”
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people (non-actor nominee comp):
Tyler Perry → Dexter Gordon.
A Perry nomination would have joined non-actor nominees like Dexter Gordon and Baryshnikov.
“it would have been a nice, like, like, Dexter Gordon, Kail Barishnikov.”
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theme (character type (Desi)):
Lolita → Gone Girl.
On the commentary Fincher says he wanted a Claire Quilty type for Desi and found it in Neil Patrick Harris.
“Fincher said he wanted a Claire quilty type and he's like, what's a modern Claire quilty type?”
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unmapped (nod to a friend):
Steven Soderbergh → Gone Girl.
Fincher put Soderbergh's Singani 63 in the film as a nod to his buddy and let him pick the scene.
“Fincher wanted to put it in the movie, as a nod to his buddy, Sudi, and said, uh, you can pick the scene where you want it applied.”
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programming (producing-partner pairing):
Ceán Chaffin → Emma Thomas.
Fincher and his wife-producer are compared to the Coens, Nolan and Emma Thomas, Snyder and his wife, Carpenter and Debra Hill.
“if the Cohens kind of had this relation, you know, where it's sort of like, yeah, they kind of just complete each other's sentences”
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unmapped (gaffer to DP):
Erik Messerschmidt → Ferrari.
Gone Girl's gaffer is now the director of photography on Ferrari (and Mindhunter, Mank, The Killer).
“He also is now the DP on Michael Mans Ferrari.”
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unmapped (hired a lighting mind):
Michael Mann → Erik Messerschmidt.
Mann told the speaker he likes Messerschmidt because he was a gaffer and cinematography is lighting.
“And he was like, you know why I like that guy because he was a gaffer. And to me, cinematography is all lighting and no one understands lighting anymore.”
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industry (Oscar treatment):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Gone Girl.
Dragon Tattoo got the same dismissal as a stylist's pulp job, with more nominations.
“He is, he is, but Dragon Tattoo kind of got the same treatment.”
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industry (opening-weekend rival):
Gone Girl → Annabelle.
Gone Girl and Annabelle opened to almost the same money.
“Two movies opening to the same amount of money, essentially.”
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unmapped (spin-off):
The Conjuring → Annabelle.
Annabelle had appeared in another horror film and then got her own picture.
“This character had appeared in another horror film. And now she's getting her own runway.”
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Fun items (23)
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fun, about
Gone Girl:
The much-debated nudity: a one-hour-in glimpse of Affleck that the framing does not point at, which some theater crowds and projections missed.
“He does not construct that frame to draw your attention to the dick.”
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fun, about
Gone Girl:
Esther's boyfriend's ex saw it with him in 2014 and told him afterward she would like to 'gone girl' him.
“I would like to gone girl you, basically.”
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fun, about
Reese Witherspoon:
Running bit: Witherspoon's invented Quibi nature show 'Fierce Queens' with commentary like 'you go, girl boss cheetah'.
“had a Quibby show that I love called Fierce Queens.”
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fun, about
David Fincher:
His 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea ended up a search for 'which 3 names you could rub together to make platinum'; his plan made Nemo a Middle Eastern prince.
“it became this bizarre endeavor to find which 3 names you could rub together to make platinum.”
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fun, about
Rosamund Pike:
Fincher on casting Pike: Amy had to be an only child, and Pike is a dyed-in-the-wool only child, socialized with adults.
“Amy had to be an only child, he said. When I met Rosamond, she was a dyed in the wool only child.”
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fun, about
Rosamund Pike:
The night before shooting, Pike had a 103-degree fever and emailed Tom Cruise (her Jack Reacher co-star); he wrote back that she was in the hands of a great director.
“And he emailed back, trust yourself, you're in the hands of a great director.”
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fun, about
Ben Affleck:
After his Oscars 'marriage is hard work' speech and a Globes slip, Affleck hosted the SNL finale and brought Jennifer Garner onstage to atone, then overplayed the bit.
“his whole monologue is him bringing Gardner up on stage and trying to atone for that comment at the Oscars.”
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fun, about
Ben Affleck:
Fincher on why he wanted Affleck: a guy who may have killed his wife, but you'd still grab a cheeseburger with him; also his practiced public smile.
“Here's this guy who may have killed his wife, but I would also love to grab a cheeseburger with him.”
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fun, about
Ben Affleck:
The story that Affleck shut down production over a Yankees cap is a deadpan joke Fincher tells on the commentary; both men say it happened as a funny episode of the shoot.
“idea that Ben Affleck actually shut down production of this film over wearing a Yankees hat is a joke that David Fincher says on the commentary.”
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fun, about
Gone Girl:
Fincher attended the opening-weekend Lincoln Square screening and afterward trimmed a few seconds from scenes that ran long.
“I remember later hearing that Fincher was at that screening.”
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fun, about
Gone Girl:
On the commentary, Fincher's first remark is that Rosamund Pike wears a wig in nearly every scene, so almost every shot needed a digital wig-line removal, including the opening shot of the back of her head.
“basically every scene Rosemond Pike is wearing a wig in this movie and wig technology has not really advanced in the last 100 years.”
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fun, about
Gone Girl:
The Blu-ray includes a real Amazing Amy kids' book written to mirror the movie, which the speakers find arch and not child-friendly.
“It's arch and it's very much like they wrote an amazing Amy that mirrors the movie.”
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fun, about
Lisa Banes:
Fincher cast Banes (Amy's mother) off one audition line about the place smelling of feces; he said that delivery was what he wanted in his movie.
“And he said, the way she delivered that line, I wanted that in my movie.”
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fun, about
Gone Girl:
Fincher's hardest job was getting Fox to market only the first 45 minutes; the only later image allowed in the trailer was the imagined shot of Amy's body underwater.
“going to Fox and being like, the marketing of this film in every way has to be centered only around the 1st 45 minutes.”
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fun, about
Casey Wilson:
Fincher says he cast Wilson because her scenes were montage with no written dialogue, and she could improvise girl talk while he rolled for 30 minutes.
“He said the main reason he cast Casey Wilson is that like most of her performance is in this sort of montage stuff, and they weren't going to write dialogue scenes, and Casey Wilson could improvise them.”
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fun, about
David Fincher:
His dialogue rule: people use words to lie, so dialogue should not reveal truth; truth comes through behavior.
“I think people use words to lie. Dialogue should not be like revealing truth.”
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fun, about
Tyler Perry:
Fincher says Perry is one of the best living actors at listening on screen, and reasoned that a Glengarry-style Tanner Bolt would have made the audience hate him.
“Tyler Perry is one of the best living actors at listening on screen, which is an interesting thing.”
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fun, about
Neil Patrick Harris:
Fincher cast Harris after watching the Tonys: a modern Claire Quilty type, 'by way of Sting', and anyone who can make him watch the Tonys is a good performer.
“Claire Quilty, by the way of sting is how he puts it.”
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Tyler Perry:
Perry, used to very few takes on his own sets, did 30 on his first Fincher scene; Affleck warned him afterward that 30 was the minimum.
“He sits down and Affleck goes, by the way, minimum 30 take.”
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Steven Soderbergh:
Soderbergh's Singani 63 liquor is the bottle in the film, a nod from Fincher; Soderbergh picked the scene, and per the speakers Pike said she would use wine rather than the champagne bottle Fincher first planned.
“Fincher wanted to put it in the movie, as a nod to his buddy, Sudi, and said, uh, you can pick the scene where you want it applied.”
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Erik Messerschmidt:
Michael Mann told the speaker he likes Messerschmidt (Gone Girl's gaffer, now DP on Ferrari) because cinematography is all lighting.
“to me, cinematography is all lighting and no one understands lighting anymore.”
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Annabelle:
The Annabelle doll never moves or talks in the films; it just turns up in different rooms and someone dies.
“most people still don't realize the doll never like comes to life.”
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Gone Girl:
The producer's verdict: a quintessential beach-house rental movie, the DVD everybody is glad to find on the shelf.
“I think this is a great beach house movie.”
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Who's talking
- Griffin Newman (host): Carries the Fincher-completist trivia (the unmade projects, the casting what-ifs) and is deep in the Affleck and Reese Witherspoon career talk. Likes a franchise that earns its box office, and says he is all in on the Equalizer films. Can't stand a lazy cable-movie career move, and has lost patience with TV coverage on the show.
- David Sims (host): A working critic who loves Gone Girl as a stylish pulp thriller and keeps a running grudge about the Oscars snubbing it. Fond of craft detail (lighting, gaffers) and old-fashioned stardom talk, and a self-described soft touch on Netflix when they make something good. Wary of bad Netflix-Fincher imitations.
- Ben Hosley (host): The producer in the room, usually quiet and kept to the clock; offers a short, warm take late in the episode. Likes the film as a comfort movie. Is teased for his old island line about A Simple Plan.
- Esther Zuckerman (guest): Film writer and former Entertainment Weekly staffer who read the book first and loves Gone Girl without caveats. Adores Rosamund Pike, Reese Witherspoon's range and Wild, and thinks Amy is amazing. Defends Promising Young Woman and will not be teased out of a rom-com read of the film.
The show's recurring bits
Names the transcriber got wrong
- Rezner and Ross → Reznor and Ross (the score)
- Kronom → Cronenweth (the cinematographer, surname only)
- Eric Masterschmidt / Mr. Schmidt / Michael Schmidt → Erik Messerschmidt (gaffer on the film; later DP on Mindhunter, Mank, The Killer, Ferrari)
- Sean Shafen → Ceán Chaffin (Fincher's wife and producer)
- Sagani 63 → Singani 63 (Soderbergh's liquor)
- Steven Soderberg / Sudi → Steven Soderbergh
- Emrada / Emrod / Amrada / Emrana → Emily Ratajkowski (also said once as 'Emily Radikowski')
- Misty / Missy Pile → Missi Pyle
- Seela / Sila Ward → Sela Ward
- Lisa Baines / Bains → Lisa Banes
- Scoot McNary → Scoot McNairy
- Patrick Fugitive / Fuget → Patrick Fugit
- Kimmy Dee → Kim Dickens
- venture / Venturebad (as in 'venture casting', 'quote from Venturebad Affleck') → Fincher
- Fisher (as in 'why Fisher cast him') → Fincher
- Edgar Roth → Eric Roth
- Steve Cloves → Steve Kloves
- Lahain → Dennis Lehane
- Gilles Paquette Brenner → Gilles Paquet-Brenner
- McGee → McG
- Jillian Flynn → Gillian Flynn
- Gugum Batharan → Gugu Mbatha-Raw
- S.E. Davis → Essie Davis
- Marion Cottiard / Cotiard → Marion Cotillard
- Salt burn → Saltburn
- Wrinkling time → A Wrinkle in Time
- Geli → Gigli
- Chris Moretz → Chloe Grace Moretz
- Lyka / Box roll → Laika / The Boxtrolls
- Michael Sarah → Michael Cera
- Gary Goldman → Gary Oldman
- Kail Barishnikov → Mikhail Baryshnikov
- Sean Levy → Shawn Levy
- Quibby → Quibi (running bit)
- Gardner → Jennifer Garner
- Angley → Ang Lee
- Mike fan at Flanagan → Mike Flanagan
- Fall of the House of V → Fall of the House of Usher
- Carrie / Harry Russell → Keri Russell
- Dolphin Tail 2 → Dolphin Tale 2
- Plan of the Apes → Planet of the Apes
- Mank said as Mink / Menck / Manck
- Dark 30 → Zero Dark Thirty
- Ryan O'Neill → Ryan O'Neal
- Beyond the Best Rest → title of Esther's book (likely 'Beyond the Best Picture Winners'; a guess)
- Bez / B-E-S → the name of Bob's ex-girlfriend (spelling unclear)