Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
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Wikidata Q181795, film, IMDb tt0080684, TMDB 1891: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only film by that title; 5 more episodes agree.
Also said as The Empire Strikes Back (1980): the same Wikidata item, so listed here.
What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.
Who talked about it
Blank Check with Griffin & David
- Unattributed: 1 line, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Blank Check — Patreon
- Unattributed: 4 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
No line says it drew on another film or person.
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (unmade Fincher project): 1 line the maker said so ×1
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unmapped (model for the unmade film):
Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back ⇒ 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (unmade Fincher project) (the maker said so: in interviews).
In interviews Fincher says he wanted 20,000 Leagues to be his Empire Strikes Back, a dark film that still works for children.
“I wanted to make my Empire Strikes Back in that I have always found it astonishing how dark Empire Strikes Back is while working as a movie for children.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:22:52 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Connected to
Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi: 2 lines verdict ×2
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verdict (verdict):
Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi → Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back.
Ranks Empire a little better than A New Hope, A New Hope a lot better than the prequels, and Jedi a little worse than all of the originals.
“Empire's a little better than New Hope and New Hope's a little better than the prequel trilogy.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Podcast (Ad-Free) · 0:07:29 · unknown (0.00 sure it was them)
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (unmade Fincher project): 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (model for the unmade film):
Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back → 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (unmade Fincher project).
In interviews Fincher says he wanted 20,000 Leagues to be his Empire Strikes Back, a dark film that still works for children.
“I wanted to make my Empire Strikes Back in that I have always found it astonishing how dark Empire Strikes Back is while working as a movie for children.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:22:52 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Raging Bull: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (Oscar rival):
Raging Bull → Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back.
Best Sound went to Empire rather than Raging Bull, with a joke about the high bar.
“Look, it did go to the Empire Strikes Back, which does have pretty good sound.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:14:48 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
The Shining: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (same weekend):
The Shining → Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back.
The Shining platformed against the wide release of The Empire Strikes Back.
“this movie came out platform against the wide release of another very famous movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:37:47 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- passing in Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie, first at 1:16:58, 1 time
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz, first at 1:14:50, 2 times
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis, first at 0:14:14, 10 times
- passing in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman, first at 1:03:36, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner, first at 1:42:42, 2 times
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan, first at 1:16:14, 1 time
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey, first at 1:22:07, 1 time
- anecdote in The Big Picture · The Top 10 Fantasy Films, The Toy Movie Hall of Fame, and ‘Masters of the Universe,’ with Griffin Newman!, first at 1:47:34, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free), first at 0:22:52, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free), first at 2:37:54, 3 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free), first at 2:18:19, 1 time
- compared in Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Podcast (Ad-Free), first at 0:00:50, 20 times
What was said about it, by kind
industry (2)
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industry (Oscar rival):
Raging Bull → Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back.
Best Sound went to Empire rather than Raging Bull, with a joke about the high bar.
“Look, it did go to the Empire Strikes Back, which does have pretty good sound.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:14:48 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (same weekend):
The Shining → Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back.
The Shining platformed against the wide release of The Empire Strikes Back.
“this movie came out platform against the wide release of another very famous movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:37:47 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
unmapped (1)
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unmapped (model for the unmade film):
Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back → 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (unmade Fincher project).
In interviews Fincher says he wanted 20,000 Leagues to be his Empire Strikes Back, a dark film that still works for children.
“I wanted to make my Empire Strikes Back in that I have always found it astonishing how dark Empire Strikes Back is while working as a movie for children.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:22:52 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
verdict (2)
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verdict (verdict):
Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi → Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back.
Jedi's performances are weaker than Empire's and the script is weaker.
“I will say I think the performances in this one are not as good as they were in Empire.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Podcast (Ad-Free) · 0:07:23 · unknown (0.00 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi → Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back.
Ranks Empire a little better than A New Hope, A New Hope a lot better than the prequels, and Jedi a little worse than all of the originals.
“Empire's a little better than New Hope and New Hope's a little better than the prequel trilogy.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Return of the Podcast (Ad-Free) · 0:07:29 · unknown (0.00 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
None.
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- Lawrence Kasdan: writer (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis)
- Lawrence Kasdan: screenwriter (The Rewatchables, ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- Irvin Kershner: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie)
- Irvin Kershner: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Star 80 with Julie Klausner)
- Marcia Lucas: editor of all three original films (Blank Check — Patreon, Return of the Podcast (Ad-Free))