H. Rider Haggard

Made films the shows talk about.

Counted as writer. The films the hosts said they wrote, which the two lists below run through too: Avatar (2009).

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

The Wizard of Oz (1939): 2 lines

lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they wrote: The Wizard of Oz ⇒ Avatar (the host's read). Avatar is described as a deep Wizard of Oz homage.
“In case you were wondering, this is a deep wizard of a homage, among other things.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:42:25 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they wrote: The Wizard of Oz ⇒ Avatar (the host's read). Avatar is an original story but inspired by Oz and John Ford movies.
“It's just like hugely inspired by not just the Wizard of Oz, but like lots of John Ford movies”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:53:51 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Titanic (1997): 2 lines

career (career) · through Avatar (2009), which they wrote: Titanic ⇒ Avatar (the host's read). Avatar could only be made because Titanic gave Cameron the clout.
“I'd never have gotten to make it if he hadn't made Titanic.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:09:04 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
verdict (verdict) · through Avatar (2009), which they wrote: Titanic ⇒ Avatar (the host's read). Titanic made Cameron so successful that Hollywood let him do anything.
“needed to have this extraordinary amount of success over these decades to conceive an execute of something so crazy as Avatar.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:45:16 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Aliens (1986): 1 line

craft (craft) · through Avatar (2009), which they wrote: Aliens ⇒ Avatar (the host's read). Making Aliens (a voiceless monster) is what let Cameron individualize the humans there and flip that in Avatar.
“I wonder if he hadn't made aliens if he could have arrived at that.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:04:08 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Edgar Rice Burroughs: 1 line

lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they wrote: Edgar Rice Burroughs ⇒ Avatar (the maker said so: Cameron's 1994 80-page treatment). Cameron's Avatar treatment drew on childhood sci-fi reading, Burroughs and Haggard.
“drawing inspiration from, quote, every single science fiction book that he had read in his childhood, and also Edgar Rice Burroughs, H. Rider Haggard.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:26:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.90 sure it was them)

John Carter of Mars: 1 line

lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they wrote: John Carter of Mars ⇒ Avatar (the host's read). Avatar reads like a John Carter of Mars style story.
“Yeah, it's very like John Carter of Mars or whatever.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:26:24 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

John Ford: 1 line

lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they wrote: John Ford ⇒ Avatar (the host's read). Same line: Avatar draws on John Ford films and the history of movies.
“lots of John Ford movies and you can see like the history of movies”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:53:51 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

RoboCop (1987): 1 line

lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they wrote: Avatar ⇒ RoboCop (the host's read). The robot-waking sequence is beat for beat the first act of Avatar, down to testing the new body's powers.
“It is crazy actually how much this sequence is like beat for beat, the Avatar, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:38:34 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Writing (1) everyone in writing

author, inspiration, Avatar (The Big Picture, The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims)

What was said about them, by kind

No claims join them to a film or another person.

Fun items about them

None.