Tangerine Dream
Made films the shows talk about.
Counted as composer, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they scored, which the two lists below run through too: Sorcerer (1977); Thief (1981); Risky Business (1983); Near Dark (1987); Friday Night Lights (2004 film) (2004).
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Rififi (1955): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Thief (1981), which they scored:
Rififi ⇒ Thief (the host's read).
Thief draws on Bogart movies, Rififi, samurai movies, French New Wave.
“in thief, you can feel Humphrey Bogart movies, you can feel, Rafifi, you can feel samurai movies, you can feel French new wave.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:11:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)
Taxi Driver (1976): 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Thief (1981), which they scored:
Taxi Driver ⇒ Thief (the host's read).
Scorsese used wet streets in Taxi Driver before Mann made it a signature.
“Scorsese did a little bit in taxi driver”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:03:18 · Bill Simmons (0.45 sure it was them)
The Jericho Mile (1979): 1 line
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career (career) · through Thief (1981), which they scored:
The Jericho Mile ⇒ Thief (the maker said so: Mann's interview with Robert Rodriguez).
Mann pulled the story's texture from prison guys he met making Jericho Mile.
“It was being pulled from the stories he had heard from the guys he had met working on Jericho Mile.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:12:52 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Friday Night Lights (TV series) (2006): 4 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Friday Night Lights (2004 film) (2004), which they scored:
Friday Night Lights (2004 film) ⇒ Friday Night Lights (TV series) (the host's read).
The TV show's excellence overshadowed the film, which has become underrated.
“And then this one, which I think the TV show kind of overwhelmed the movie, and now the movie has become weirdly underrated.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:04:23 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Friday Night Lights (2004 film) (2004), which they scored:
Friday Night Lights (2004 film) ⇒ Friday Night Lights (TV series) (the host's read).
The halftime speech contains the ingredients later assembled into clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
“the ingredients for clear eyes, full hearts can't lose are present here”
The Rewatchables · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:45:50 · Mallory Rubin (0.80 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Friday Night Lights (2004 film) (2004), which they scored:
Friday Night Lights (2004 film) ⇒ Friday Night Lights (TV series) (the host's read).
Character map from the 88 team and film to the TV show.
“Winchell's mom, Sarah's grandma, Booby is smashed, Billingsley is Riggins, John is Buddy, Gary's Eric, Sharon's, Tammy, et cetera.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 1:15:37 · Mallory Rubin (0.60 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Friday Night Lights (2004 film) (2004), which they scored:
Friday Night Lights (2004 film) ⇒ Friday Night Lights (TV series) (the host's read).
The bus-ride sequence before the Astrodome game influenced the TV series' team-bus tradition.
“I feel like this is the TV series. I think was the most influenced by this sequence.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:42:24 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Heat (1995): 3 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Thief (1981), which they scored:
Thief ⇒ Heat (the maker said so: the Siegel piece, Caan telling Pacino).
Caan said scenes cut from Thief went to Heat.
“All the scenes that weren't used in our picture came over to you guys.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:15:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Thief (1981), which they scored:
Thief ⇒ Heat (the host's read).
The diner scene's wide shot echoes Heat's, which never shows both guys.
“Wide shot, some heat DNA, although in heat, they don't have, you never see the 2 guys”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:36:13 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Thief (1981), which they scored:
Thief ⇒ Heat (the host's read).
Thief is the notebook sketch for Mann's later work, with Heat sharing DNA.
“the building blocks for what you wind up seeing in heat and collateral and Miami Vice in so many of his films to come.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:02:54 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Collateral (2004): 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Thief (1981), which they scored:
Thief ⇒ Collateral (the host's read).
Mann later circled back to blues in Collateral after trying all-blues for Thief.
“but then circled back in collateral”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:57:36 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
Manhunter (1986): 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Thief (1981), which they scored:
Thief ⇒ Manhunter (the host's read).
Thief's final shootout is a dry run for Manhunter's.
“That whole shootout is very reminiscent of the shootout at the end of Manhunter”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:11:12 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Moneyball (2011): 1 line
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industry (industry) · through Friday Night Lights (2004 film) (2004), which they scored:
Friday Night Lights (2004 film) ⇒ Moneyball (the host's read).
The film points toward the next wave of dramas that happen to be about sports.
“And Friday Night Lights is moving us toward this kind of next iteration of whatever that was, and it's leading to stuff like money ball and win-win and like dramas that also happen to be about sports.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:16:15 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
Panic Room (2002): 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Thief (1981), which they scored:
Thief ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
Fincher may have watched Thief before Panic Room.
“Fincher does panic room and he probably saw Thief like 2 weeks before he started filming”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:40:36 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Varsity Blues (1999): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Friday Night Lights (2004 film) (2004), which they scored:
Friday Night Lights (2004 film) ⇒ Varsity Blues (the host's read).
Varsity Blues ripped off the Boobie Miles injury beat with its Lance Harbor injury, and the TV show flipped it with Jason Street.
“I love varsity blues we've done on the rewatchables, but they rip it off with the Lance Harbor injury.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:35:23 · Mallory Rubin (0.50 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Music (8) everyone in music
- score (compared), Friday Night Lights (2004 film) (The Rewatchables, ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin)
- synth soundtracks Mann is famous for using (The Rewatchables, ‘The Insider’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- composer, Thief (The Rewatchables, ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- score for Sorcerer (as said: 'sorcerer score, thief score'), Sorcerer (The Rewatchables, ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- score for Risky Business (as said: 'and then risky business'), Risky Business (The Rewatchables, ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- score (said as 'Tangerian dream'), Risky Business (The Rewatchables, ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- band (45 scores) (Blank Check — Patreon, A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free))
- composer, Near Dark (Blank Check — Patreon, Blue Steel with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free))
What was said about them, by kind
career (1)
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career (career):
Tangerine Dream → Howard Faltermeyer.
Tangerine Dream followed Sorcerer with Thief and Risky Business.
“They go sorcerer score, thief score.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:48:04 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
contrast (1)
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contrast (contrast):
The Insider → Tangerine Dream.
The Insider's operatic Dead Can Dance score departs from the synth sound Mann is famous for using.
“man's so famous for using like Tangerine Dream and these really evocative, synthy, beautiful sounds. And this has almost like an opera score.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Insider’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:30:11 · Chris Ryan or Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
craft (1)
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craft (craft):
Explosions in the Sky → Tangerine Dream.
The score is one of the finalists for best movie score, alongside Tangerine Dream.
“Them and Tangerine Dream in the finals for movie scores.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:27:26 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
industry (1)
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industry (industry):
Tangerine Dream → Vangelis.
Tangerine Dream and Vangelis defined cool early-80s music.
“This was really all we had for cool music.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Thief’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:47:55 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
verdict (1)
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verdict (verdict):
Michael Mann → Tangerine Dream.
A speaker is not into Mann's Tangerine Dream soundtracks and thinks his pop-abstract music choices rarely work.
“It's one of the only things in his movies that I'm not like I'm not into those tangerine dream soundtracks.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Insider’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:52:21 · Chris Ryan or Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
None.