Moneyball (2011)
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In the store as #546, Moneyball (2011).
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Who talked about it
Blank Check — Patreon
- Unattributed: 2 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
The Big Picture
- Sean Fennessey: 15 lines in Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’
- Amanda Dobbins: 7 lines in Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · Thirteen Awards Movies to Watch Out for, Oscar Do-Overs, and More From the Mailbag · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · The 10 Most Misused Stars in Hollywood and the Gnarly Magic of ‘Send Help’
- Unattributed: 7 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
The Rewatchables
- Bill Simmons: 8 lines in ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan
- Unattributed: 2 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Friday Night Lights (2004 film): 1 line the host's read ×1
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industry (industry):
Friday Night Lights (2004 film) ⇒ Moneyball (the host's read).
The film points toward the next wave of dramas that happen to be about sports.
“And Friday Night Lights is moving us toward this kind of next iteration of whatever that was, and it's leading to stuff like money ball and win-win and like dramas that also happen to be about sports.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:16:15 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
No line says another film or person drew on it.
Connected to
F1: 3 lines theme ×2 what-if ×1
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theme (theme):
F1 → Moneyball.
Scrappy underdogs exploiting the margins to beat richer rivals.
“It's kind of money ball on steroids, though.”
The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:14:29 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Aaron Sorkin: 2 lines unmapped ×1 craft ×1
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craft (craft):
Moneyball → Aaron Sorkin.
Pitt and Hill do Sorkin dialogue at a slow pace, not rat-a-tat.
“they are not doing the Ratatat dialogue.”
The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:49:40 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
Brad Pitt: 2 lines career ×1 unmapped ×1
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career (career stepping stone):
Brad Pitt → Moneyball.
Moneyball showed shades of the performance Pitt reaches here.
“You see shades of it and moneyball, yeah.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:05:48 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Steven Soderbergh: 2 lines unmapped ×1 what-if ×1
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what-if (what-if):
Moneyball → Steven Soderbergh.
Moneyball was first developed for Soderbergh; one host wishes for a darker, pulp-fiction version.
“I still would have liked to have seen the cut glass, you know, dark core version of this story from Soderberg”
The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:51:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
A Minecraft Movie: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (shared trait):
Moneyball → A Minecraft Movie.
Both are IP (based on existing property), tied to the claim that movies are back.
“So Moneyball and then Minecraft, that's that's the director. They're both IP.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:28:54 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45 sure it was them)
Air: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (similar subject):
Moneyball → Air.
Air is a similar movie about commerce, finance, and decision-making around sports, with movie stars and questionable pants.
“Air sort of a similar movie to this in terms of ideas and the relationship between commerce and finance and decision making around sports.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:31:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
All the President's Men: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (process procedural):
Moneyball → All the President's Men.
Both are process movies that take you inside a world and show how people do things and talk.
“taking you inside of a world that you don't totally understand and showing you literally how people do things, literally how people talk about things”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:33:11 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Bennett Miller: 1 line career ×1
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career (career):
Moneyball → Bennett Miller.
Sorkin works best paired with a dark heart, and Miller's film is darker than it seems.
“I think he's at his best when he is paired with somebody who has has a dark heart.”
The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:52:38 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
Dog Day Afternoon: 1 line lineage ×1
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lineage (joke remake):
Moneyball → Dog Day Afternoon.
The Mets' version of Moneyball would be Dog Day Afternoon: hostages, incompetent robbers, heat.
“It'd be like dog afternoon. We're all being held hostage. They won't let us out.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:29:11 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Eddington: 1 line contrast ×1
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contrast (contrast on data):
Moneyball → Eddington.
Today we are skeptical of lives dominated by data, as in Eddington, which makes Billy's stance feel different now.
“pretty dubious of having our lives dominated by a data center if you've seen Eddington.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:18:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
For Love of the Game: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (industry):
For Love of the Game → Moneyball.
Baseball movies progressed from straight sports to merging genres (For Love of the Game) to a movement story that happens to be about baseball (Moneyball).
“now it's like this is about a movement that happened in a sport and it just happens to be about baseball”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:26:20 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Friday Night Lights: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (mood and music):
Moneyball → Friday Night Lights.
Shares the score and music and people doing their best, more the show than the movie.
“Really more the show than the movie, but the movie too, but especially the score and the music and people just doing their best.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:32:43 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45 sure it was them)
Friday Night Lights (2004 film): 1 line industry ×1
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industry (industry):
Friday Night Lights (2004 film) → Moneyball.
The film points toward the next wave of dramas that happen to be about sports.
“And Friday Night Lights is moving us toward this kind of next iteration of whatever that was, and it's leading to stuff like money ball and win-win and like dramas that also happen to be about sports.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:16:15 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
Good Will Hunting: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (character type):
Moneyball → Good Will Hunting.
Peter Brand is like the wizard of math everyone is waiting to have his big moment.
“I thought a lot about Goodwill hunting, watching this movie the 2nd time, you know, like the wizard who just kind of needs to tap into everything and all the math”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:32:05 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45 sure it was them)
Hustle: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (similar subject):
Moneyball → Hustle.
Hustle is the recent Adam Sandler basketball scout movie, another sports-business pick.
“The recent Adam Sandler movie about basketball, scout, player personnel person.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:31:43 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
Inside Llewyn Davis: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (shared theme):
Moneyball → Inside Llewyn Davis.
Both are stories about someone who never quite fulfills his promise or gets as famous as hoped.
“it's another story about a loser, we just did inside Lewin Davis in this series, which was a story about somebody who doesn't quite fulfill his promise”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:05:25 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
Major League: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (genre convention):
Moneyball → Major League.
Like Major League, Moneyball does not end with winning the World Series.
“major league famously doesn't end with winning the World Series, but The movie almost doesn't care if you don't get that.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:09:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Mercy: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (theme):
Mercy → Moneyball.
The film's gut-instinct-versus-data argument is framed as Moneyball.
“It's it's straight up moneyball.”
The Big Picture · The 10 Most Misused Stars in Hollywood and the Gnarly Magic of ‘Send Help’ · 0:22:45 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
Miracle: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (trope):
Miracle → Moneyball.
Modern sports movies skip the wet-blanket wife; Moneyball does a single great Robin Wright scene.
“Like a movie like Moneyball.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:47:41 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)
Reds: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (unmade version):
Moneyball → Reds.
Soderbergh's planned version was like Reds as a baseball movie, with to-camera testimony from real people.
“It was kind of like if you made reds as a baseball movie where he was going to use into camera testimony and real life people performing from the film.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:22:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)
Rocky: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (theme):
Rocky → Moneyball.
Movies favor underdogs over dynasties; you would not watch Moneyball about Brian Cashman.
“Yeah, you wouldn't watch Moneyball about Brian Cashman.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:54:37 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
Spike Jonze: 1 line career ×1
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career (career highlights):
Spike Jonze → Moneyball.
A speaker says Moneyball, Wolf of Wall Street and Babylon would be enough for Jonze's acting Hall of Fame.
“I mean, you could just do Moneyball Wolf of Wall Street and Babylon in the Hall of Fame.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:46:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Steven Zaillian: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (recent work):
Steven Zaillian → Moneyball.
Zaillian had just worked on Moneyball.
“who had just worked on Moneyball.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:45:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
The Artist: 1 line verdict ×1
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verdict (verdict):
Moneyball → The Artist.
A less traditional do-over: Moneyball should have beaten The Artist.
“Gonna gonna put moneyball over the artist here?”
The Big Picture · Thirteen Awards Movies to Watch Out for, Oscar Do-Overs, and More From the Mailbag · 0:41:13 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
The Natural: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (theme):
The Natural → Moneyball.
The best baseball movies each represent whatever their era was; Moneyball is the modern one.
“goes back to the point of how the best baseball movies kind of represent whatever the era was.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:25:11 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
The Rewatchables (series): 1 line programming ×1
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programming (programming):
Moneyball → The Rewatchables (series).
Moneyball was one of the first Rewatchables ever done, now seen as underrated.
“that was one of the 1st rewatchables we ever did, was Moneyball”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:25:04 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
The Social Network: 1 line people ×1
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people (shared writer):
The Social Network → Moneyball.
Moneyball is set aside as a Sorkin script written after The Social Network, so it does not count as a successor.
“Don't count those, right? Because those are Sorkin scripts.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:11:39 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
This Is the End: 1 line career ×1
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career (career):
This Is the End → Moneyball.
Hill's line to God invoking Moneyball.
“I'm Jonah Hill, for Moneyball.”
The Rewatchables · ‘This Is the End’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck · 0:38:02 · Bill Simmons (0.35 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan, first at 0:14:29, 5 times
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt, first at 0:25:02, 1 time
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan, first at 0:54:37, 2 times
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin, first at 0:16:21, 3 times
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘This Is the End’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck, first at 0:38:02, 2 times
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman, first at 0:23:37, 2 times
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan, first at 0:23:25, 2 times
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan, first at 0:29:50, 1 time
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan, first at 0:05:47, 4 times
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin, first at 0:04:48, 6 times
- compared in The Big Picture · The 10 Most Misused Stars in Hollywood and the Gnarly Magic of ‘Send Help’, first at 0:22:42, 1 time
- subject in The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’, first at 0:00:42, 25 times
- compared in The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along, first at 0:16:19, 3 times
- compared in The Big Picture · Thirteen Awards Movies to Watch Out for, Oscar Do-Overs, and More From the Mailbag, first at 0:41:13, 2 times
- compared in The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’, first at 0:21:31, 13 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free), first at 0:45:57, 4 times
- compared in Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free), first at 0:11:32, 6 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free), first at 1:16:40, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy, first at 0:19:46, 1 time
What was said about it, by kind
career (4)
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career (career):
This Is the End → Moneyball.
Hill's line to God invoking Moneyball.
“I'm Jonah Hill, for Moneyball.”
The Rewatchables · ‘This Is the End’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck · 0:38:02 · Bill Simmons (0.35 sure it was them) -
career (career stepping stone):
Brad Pitt → Moneyball.
Moneyball showed shades of the performance Pitt reaches here.
“You see shades of it and moneyball, yeah.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:05:48 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career highlights):
Spike Jonze → Moneyball.
A speaker says Moneyball, Wolf of Wall Street and Babylon would be enough for Jonze's acting Hall of Fame.
“I mean, you could just do Moneyball Wolf of Wall Street and Babylon in the Hall of Fame.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:46:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Moneyball → Bennett Miller.
Sorkin works best paired with a dark heart, and Miller's film is darker than it seems.
“I think he's at his best when he is paired with somebody who has has a dark heart.”
The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:52:38 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
contrast (1)
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contrast (contrast on data):
Moneyball → Eddington.
Today we are skeptical of lives dominated by data, as in Eddington, which makes Billy's stance feel different now.
“pretty dubious of having our lives dominated by a data center if you've seen Eddington.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:18:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
craft (2)
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craft (mood and music):
Moneyball → Friday Night Lights.
Shares the score and music and people doing their best, more the show than the movie.
“Really more the show than the movie, but the movie too, but especially the score and the music and people just doing their best.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:32:43 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Moneyball → Aaron Sorkin.
Pitt and Hill do Sorkin dialogue at a slow pace, not rat-a-tat.
“they are not doing the Ratatat dialogue.”
The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:49:40 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
industry (2)
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industry (industry):
Friday Night Lights (2004 film) → Moneyball.
The film points toward the next wave of dramas that happen to be about sports.
“And Friday Night Lights is moving us toward this kind of next iteration of whatever that was, and it's leading to stuff like money ball and win-win and like dramas that also happen to be about sports.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:16:15 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
For Love of the Game → Moneyball.
Baseball movies progressed from straight sports to merging genres (For Love of the Game) to a movement story that happens to be about baseball (Moneyball).
“now it's like this is about a movement that happened in a sport and it just happens to be about baseball”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:26:20 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
lineage (1)
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lineage (joke remake):
Moneyball → Dog Day Afternoon.
The Mets' version of Moneyball would be Dog Day Afternoon: hostages, incompetent robbers, heat.
“It'd be like dog afternoon. We're all being held hostage. They won't let us out.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:29:11 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
people (1)
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people (shared writer):
The Social Network → Moneyball.
Moneyball is set aside as a Sorkin script written after The Social Network, so it does not count as a successor.
“Don't count those, right? Because those are Sorkin scripts.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:11:39 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
programming (1)
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programming (programming):
Moneyball → The Rewatchables (series).
Moneyball was one of the first Rewatchables ever done, now seen as underrated.
“that was one of the 1st rewatchables we ever did, was Moneyball”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:25:04 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
theme (9)
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theme (theme):
F1 → Moneyball.
Scrappy underdogs exploiting the margins to beat richer rivals.
“It's kind of money ball on steroids, though.”
The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:14:29 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
Rocky → Moneyball.
Movies favor underdogs over dynasties; you would not watch Moneyball about Brian Cashman.
“Yeah, you wouldn't watch Moneyball about Brian Cashman.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:54:37 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
theme (trope):
Miracle → Moneyball.
Modern sports movies skip the wet-blanket wife; Moneyball does a single great Robin Wright scene.
“Like a movie like Moneyball.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:47:41 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
The Natural → Moneyball.
The best baseball movies each represent whatever their era was; Moneyball is the modern one.
“goes back to the point of how the best baseball movies kind of represent whatever the era was.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:25:11 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
Mercy → Moneyball.
The film's gut-instinct-versus-data argument is framed as Moneyball.
“It's it's straight up moneyball.”
The Big Picture · The 10 Most Misused Stars in Hollywood and the Gnarly Magic of ‘Send Help’ · 0:22:45 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (shared theme):
Moneyball → Inside Llewyn Davis.
Both are stories about someone who never quite fulfills his promise or gets as famous as hoped.
“it's another story about a loser, we just did inside Lewin Davis in this series, which was a story about somebody who doesn't quite fulfill his promise”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:05:25 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
theme (genre convention):
Moneyball → Major League.
Like Major League, Moneyball does not end with winning the World Series.
“major league famously doesn't end with winning the World Series, but The movie almost doesn't care if you don't get that.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:09:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (same star, same persona):
Moneyball → F1.
F1 is very Moneyball because Pitt is channeling Billy Beane, the guy who never made it; called a demerit for F1.
“a lot of what Pitt is doing is just channeling Billy, you know? Like the guy who never really made it.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:31:54 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (character type):
Moneyball → Good Will Hunting.
Peter Brand is like the wizard of math everyone is waiting to have his big moment.
“I thought a lot about Goodwill hunting, watching this movie the 2nd time, you know, like the wizard who just kind of needs to tap into everything and all the math”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:32:05 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45 sure it was them)
unmapped (9)
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unmapped (unmade version):
Moneyball → Reds.
Soderbergh's planned version was like Reds as a baseball movie, with to-camera testimony from real people.
“It was kind of like if you made reds as a baseball movie where he was going to use into camera testimony and real life people performing from the film.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:22:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them) -
unmapped (authorial signature):
Aaron Sorkin → Moneyball.
The nobility-of-work and dad-daughter material is attributed to Sorkin's rewrite.
“the nobility of the work, which is so common in all of Sorkin's TV shows and movies, the idea of like just doing the thing in an honest and decent way.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:23:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them) -
unmapped (unmade version):
Steven Soderbergh → Moneyball.
The finished film still keeps archival and math, with talk radio replacing direct-to-camera testimony.
“it certainly still has a lot of math instead of people talking directly camera, it uses a lot of talk radio.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:23:53 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them) -
unmapped (shared trait):
Moneyball → A Minecraft Movie.
Both are IP (based on existing property), tied to the claim that movies are back.
“So Moneyball and then Minecraft, that's that's the director. They're both IP.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:28:54 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45 sure it was them) -
unmapped (similar subject):
Moneyball → Air.
Air is a similar movie about commerce, finance, and decision-making around sports, with movie stars and questionable pants.
“Air sort of a similar movie to this in terms of ideas and the relationship between commerce and finance and decision making around sports.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:31:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
unmapped (similar subject):
Moneyball → Hustle.
Hustle is the recent Adam Sandler basketball scout movie, another sports-business pick.
“The recent Adam Sandler movie about basketball, scout, player personnel person.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:31:43 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
unmapped (process procedural):
Moneyball → All the President's Men.
Both are process movies that take you inside a world and show how people do things and talk.
“taking you inside of a world that you don't totally understand and showing you literally how people do things, literally how people talk about things”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:33:11 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
unmapped (taste):
Brad Pitt → Moneyball.
A speaker prefers Pitt in perfect-Brad-Pitt roles such as Ocean's 11, Moneyball and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
“Like, the ones I like are his performances in Ocean's 11 and Moneyball and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.”
The Big Picture · The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along · 0:16:13 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (recent work):
Steven Zaillian → Moneyball.
Zaillian had just worked on Moneyball.
“who had just worked on Moneyball.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:45:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
verdict (1)
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verdict (verdict):
Moneyball → The Artist.
A less traditional do-over: Moneyball should have beaten The Artist.
“Gonna gonna put moneyball over the artist here?”
The Big Picture · Thirteen Awards Movies to Watch Out for, Oscar Do-Overs, and More From the Mailbag · 0:41:13 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
what-if (2)
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what-if (what-if):
F1 → Moneyball.
Pitt might have made three or four more Moneyball-type movies in the Brangelina gap.
“I feel like there was like 3 or 4 more money ball type movies for him in there and he just didn't make them.”
The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:21:36 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Moneyball → Steven Soderbergh.
Moneyball was first developed for Soderbergh; one host wishes for a darker, pulp-fiction version.
“I still would have liked to have seen the cut glass, you know, dark core version of this story from Soderberg”
The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:51:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
-
fun, about
Moneyball:
The film's central romantic claim: it is about math, angry people, and unflattering pants, yet becomes irresistibly sentimental.
“It's about math. It is about like a lot of math, and there are just a lot of numbers at screen all the time.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:03:27 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Moneyball:
The big game is a mid-season winning-streak game, not a playoff; the movie shows mostly failures, only the Hatteberg home run and not the 11 runs.
“the big game is just like a winning streak game in the middle of the season.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:09:36 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Moneyball:
Six Oscar nominations (picture, actor, supporting actor, adapted screenplay, editing, sound mixing) but no director nomination.
“Six Academy Award nominations, picture actor, supporting actor, adapted screenplay, film editing, and sound mixing.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:26:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Moneyball:
Four stars from Ebert; about $120 million on a roughly $50-60 million budget; called a very adult movie.
“$120 million is like a 50 or $60000000 movie.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:28:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Moneyball:
The Mets version of Moneyball would be Dog Day Afternoon, a hostage situation in 100-degree heat.
“What would the Mets version of Moneyball be?”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:29:11 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Moneyball:
The show kept refusing Moneyball screening requests; the hosts say they said no four times.
“You said no 4 times.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:30:58 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Moneyball:
Billy Beane joining the Fenway owners group is an end cap to the movie; Red Sox lure scene.
“he is joining the Fenway owners group, which is John Henry's company”
The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:51:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Moneyball:
The hosts joke about a Moneyball-every-week spinoff podcast and not being invited on The Rewatchables.
“Just talk about moneyball every week.”
The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:53:15 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- Brad Pitt: actor (The Big Picture, The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along)
- Brad Pitt: actor (Billy Beane) (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Brad Pitt: actor (The Rewatchables, ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- Brad Pitt: actor (The Rewatchables, ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- Brad Pitt: actor, Billy Beane (The Big Picture, Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’)
- Brad Pitt: star (The Rewatchables, ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- Brad Pitt: lead (Blank Check — Patreon, Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free))
- Spike Jonze: actor (The Big Picture, The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along)
- Spike Jonze: actor (cameo) (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Bennett Miller: director (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Bennett Miller: director (The Big Picture, Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’)
- Steven Zaillian: writer (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Steven Zaillian: screenwriter (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Aaron Sorkin: writer (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Aaron Sorkin: writer (The Big Picture, Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’)
- Aaron Sorkin: screenwriter (Blank Check — Patreon, The Social Network (Ad-Free))
- Steven Soderbergh: director (originally attached) (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Steven Soderbergh: originally attached director (The Big Picture, Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’)
- Jonah Hill: actor (Peter Brand) (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Jonah Hill: actor (The Rewatchables, ‘This Is the End’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck)
- Jonah Hill: actor (The Big Picture, Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’)
- Chris Pratt: actor (Scott Hatteberg) (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Chris Pratt: actor (Blank Check — Patreon, Guardians of the Galaxy)
- Robin Wright: actor (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Philip Seymour Hoffman: actor (Art Howe) (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Michael Lewis: author of the source book (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Bill James: sabermetrics thinker whose work underlies the book (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Billy Beane: real-life subject (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Paul DePodesta: real-life basis for Peter Brand (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Dmitri Martin: actor (was to play Peter Brand in Soderbergh version) (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Grady Fuson: real-life head scout portrayed (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Scott Hatteberg: real-life player (would have acted in Soderbergh version) (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Chad Bradford: real-life player (would have acted in Soderbergh version) (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Stan Chervin: first screenwriter (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Amy Pascal: Sony head who put the movie in turnaround (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Sony: studio (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Roger Ebert: critic (four stars) (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Manohla Dargis: critic (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- Arliss Howard: actor, John Henry (The Big Picture, Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’)