Joe Turkel
Made films the shows talk about.
Counted as actor. The films the hosts said they acted in, which the two lists below run through too: Paths of Glory (1957); The Shining (1980); Blade Runner (1982).
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Stephen King: 2 lines
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unmapped (blueprint) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
Stephen King ⇒ The Shining (the maker said so: Kubrick quotes in the research dossier).
The speakers read Kubrick saying the novel's plot is a good blueprint for the movie he wanted to make.
“I can make whatever movie I want with that as a blueprint.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 1:04:04 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (adaptation) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
Stephen King ⇒ The Shining (the host's read).
The film is the second Stephen King novel adaptation, after Carrie.
“This is the 2nd Stephen King film adaptation.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:09:27 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968): 1 line
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unmapped (led to Kubrick mythology) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ The Shining (the host's read).
2001 is the reason for Kubrick's godlike mythology, without which people would invest less in The Shining.
“I don't think people would invest as much into The Shining if this movie didn't exist.”
Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 1:01:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Humphrey Cobb: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Paths of Glory (1957), which they acted in:
Humphrey Cobb ⇒ Paths of Glory (the host's read).
Paths of Glory is based on Cobb's novel, which Kubrick read in high school and never forgot.
“Humphrey Cobb's novel pads of glory.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 0:33:38 · David Sims (0.70 sure it was them)
The Killing (1956): 1 line
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unmapped (led to) · through Paths of Glory (1957), which they acted in:
The Killing ⇒ Paths of Glory (the host's read).
Kirk Douglas saw The Killing and wanted that director for Paths of Glory.
“And then didn't Kirk Douglas see this and went, oh, this is paths of glory.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:05:46 · Patton Oswalt (0.35 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Doctor Sleep (2019): 6 lines
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lineage (sequel) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ Doctor Sleep (the host's read).
Doctor Sleep is the sequel to Kubrick's The Shining, which is the whole sell and the whole problem.
“You're doing a sequel to The Shining.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 0:12:41 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (sequel) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ Doctor Sleep (the host's read).
Doctor Sleep is the sequel to The Shining.
“Dr. Sleep, the sequel to, which I feel like is actually a better movie”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:58:43 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (homage) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ Doctor Sleep (the host's read).
Doctor Sleep has to pay some homage to Kubrick while following a novel whose author hates the film.
“it has to thread paying some homage to Kubrick”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:14:53 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ Doctor Sleep (the host's read).
Doctor Sleep's script threads King's book and Kubrick's film, and addresses King's complaint about what Kubrick changed.
“It addresses the conflict between Stephen King and what he didn't like about the Kubrick movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Fifth Annual Blank Check Awards with Joe Reid (Ad-Free) · 0:46:49 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ Doctor Sleep (the host's read).
Doctor Sleep uses grown-up Danny and a new generation, Abra Stone.
“Using a familiar figure from the original film in Danny, the grown up Danny”
The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:31:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (sequel) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ Doctor Sleep (the host's read).
Doctor Sleep is named as a continuation of The Shining, with the Stephen King thing.
“There's also Doctor Sleep.”
Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:48:12 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
1980s Stephen King adaptations (Cujo, The Dead Zone, Christine, etc.): 1 line
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unmapped (led to) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ 1980s Stephen King adaptations (Cujo, The Dead Zone, Christine, etc.) (the host's read).
After The Shining and Carrie came the real 1980s wave of King adaptations.
“the real 80s wave of like lots of king stuff.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:09:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
Bobby's World (TV): 1 line
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lineage (homage) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ Bobby's World (TV) (the host's read).
The Bobby's World opening of Bobby on a big wheel is called an homage to The Shining.
“And it's so clearly has to be an homage to this”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:06:41 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)
David Simon: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Paths of Glory (1957), which they acted in:
Paths of Glory ⇒ David Simon (the maker said so: David Simon cites it regularly).
The speaker calls Paths of Glory a Rosetta Stone for Simon's stories of institutions versus the people below.
“this is the sort of Rosetta Stone, if you will, for him.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 0:25:22 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Ready Player One: 1 line
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lineage (homage) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ Ready Player One (the host's read).
Ready Player One has a fun sequence set in the hotel.
“Ready player one, they go to the hotel.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:26:19 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Stephen King's The Shining (1997 miniseries): 1 line
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unmapped (answered by) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ Stephen King's The Shining (1997 miniseries) (the host's read).
King's own miniseries is described as him showing folks the real Shining, after his objections to the film.
“okay, time to roll up my sleeves and show you folks the real shining.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:47:01 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)
The Simpsons (TV): 1 line
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unmapped (parody) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ The Simpsons (TV) (the host's read).
The Simpsons parodied the film; the speaker knew its elements from parodies first.
“I feel like I'd seen so many parodies of different elements of this.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:35:57 · Ben Hosley (0.40 sure it was them)
The Wire (2002): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Paths of Glory (1957), which they acted in:
Paths of Glory ⇒ The Wire (the maker said so: David Simon cites it regularly).
David Simon reportedly cites Paths of Glory as the number one influence on The Wire: institutions chewing up the people on the ground.
“David Simon cites this regularly as the number one influence on the wire?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 0:25:11 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Zodiac (2007): 1 line
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unmapped (stolen move) · through The Shining (1980), which they acted in:
The Shining ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read).
Fincher steals the Steadicam move where the camera turns with the car and keeps it centered.
“Fincher steals that move of like when the car turns a corner”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:05:09 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Acting (5) everyone in acting
- bartender, The Shining (Blank Check — Patreon, The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free))
- Tyrell, Blade Runner (Blank Check — Patreon, The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free))
- actor, Paths of Glory (Blank Check — Patreon, Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free))
- actor, bartender, The Shining (Blank Check — Patreon, Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free))
- actor, Tyrell, Blade Runner (Blank Check — Patreon, Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free))
What was said about them, by kind
career (2)
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career (career):
Joe Turkel → The Shining.
Turkel, from many Kubrick movies, becomes the bartender in The Shining.
“becomes the bartender in the Shining, but also he's Tyrell and Blade Runner.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 1:27:59 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Joe Turkel → Blade Runner.
Turkel plays Tyrell in Blade Runner.
“becomes the bartender in the Shining, but also he's Tyrell and Blade Runner.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 1:27:59 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)
people (1)
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people (same actor):
Joe Turkel → Blade Runner.
The Shining bartender is also Tyrell in Blade Runner.
“And it's also a Tyrell Blade Runner.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 1:16:55 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
None.