The Shining (1980)

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Wikidata Q186341, film, IMDb tt0081505, TMDB 694: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Stanley Kubrick as director (The Top Five Movies of 2022); 7 more episodes agree.

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The Rewatchables' awards

From ‘The Shining’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan (2019-10-31):

Most rewatchable scene

  1. pick The opening credits, the long helicopter tracking shot over the drive up to the hotel
    “I gotta put the opening credits in.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:36:33
  2. pick Jack snapping at Wendy for interrupting him while he writes
    “Next thing, Jack yelling at Wendy not to disturb him when he's writing.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:39:11
  3. pick Jack having a drink with Lloyd (white man's burden)
    “Jack having a drink with Lloyd.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:41:27
  4. pick Wendy discovers Jack's manuscript on the stairs sequence
    “Most of my most rewatchables are toward the end of the movie.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:43:48
  5. pick The bathroom scene: the axe through the door and Here's Johnny
    “Next scene, the bathroom scene.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:48:43
  6. pick Dick Hallorann killed with the axe in the lobby
    “Scatman Crother's getting killed is out of control.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:51:28
  7. pick The ending in the hedge maze, with Danny retracing his steps
    “The ending. The maze?”
    Bill Simmons · 0:52:35
  8. pick The second Gold Room scene, Jack in the bathroom with Grady
    “I really like the 2nd gold room, uh,”
    unknown · 0:54:12
  9. pick The tour of the hotel at the start
    “I think that one of the more rewatchable scenes is the tour that they get in the beginning of the entire hotel”
    unknown · 0:54:52
  10. pick Hallorann explaining the shining to Danny over ice cream
    “I think the 1st scene between Scatman Crothers and Danny, which is explaining the shining to him a little bit.”
    unknown · 0:55:13
  11. floated Wendy's job interview scene at the start, Ullman telling Jack about the last caretaker
    “I mean, like, the best part about this movie to me is how even in the interview scene in the beginning is so weird.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:40:35
  12. floated Wendy talking to the doctor after Danny passes out
    “I didn't put this in most rewatchable scene, but when she's talking to the therapist, or whoever that person is after Danny passes out”
    Bill Simmons · 0:41:02

Oscar picks (best actor 1980) · Who should have been nominated for the 1980 best actor Oscar.

  1. pick Jack Nicholson as Jack Torrance: Bill says Nicholson should have been nominated for The Shining.
    “He wasn't even nominated for best actor, which seems crazy.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:07:22
  2. pick Al Pacino as Cruising: Bill wants Pacino for Cruising alongside Nicholson.
    “Second thing, we almost had one of the great best actor categories of all time, if they had done the right thing, and nominated Nicholson and Pacino for cruising.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:35:14

What Aged the Best · The element of the film that has aged best.

  1. winner Dick Hallorann's bedroom with the nude paintings: Bill's gold medalist; the steadicam is silver and the big wheel is bronze.
    “Dick Halloran's bedroom.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:56:04
  2. pick The Steadicam work: Bill gave Sean the steadicam; Bill ranks it silver.
    “It's the invention of a technology that changed movies forever.”
    Sean Fennessey · 1:02:42
  3. pick Danny riding the big wheel through the hallways: Bill's bronze medalist.
    “I have Dick Halloran's bedroom as my gold medalist, and then the steady cam is silver medalist, and then the big wheel as a bronze medalist.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:04:17
  4. pick Red rum in the mirror: The fast cut and loud music make the reveal shocking.
    “Red rum and the mirror has aged the best.”
    unknown · 0:57:48
  5. pick Grady explaining that he had to correct his family: Grady's matter-of-fact way of describing killing his family.
    “The whole concept of correcting?”
    unknown · 0:58:49
  6. pick The hedge maze: One of their favorite man-built things in a movie.
    “The maze's age, the best.”
    unknown · 0:59:13
  7. pick The creepy twin sisters
    “The scary twin sisters have age the best.”
    unknown · 1:00:03
  8. pick Nicholson's drool after Wendy wakes him from the nightmare
    “Um, Nicholson's drool after Wendy wakes him up from the nightmare?”
    unknown · 1:00:16
  9. pick The Overlook Hotel itself
    “I was just going to say the overlook.”
    unknown · 1:00:41

What Aged the Worst · The element of the film that has aged worst.

  1. pick The old naked woman in room 237 and the bear costume scene
    “Old scary naked lady and the bear costume blowjob.”
    unknown · 1:05:19
  2. pick Hallorann's long phone call renting a snowcat: One host thinks the three of them could cut 15 minutes from the movie.
    “Dick Caloran renting a snow cap for 5 minutes on the phone calling his buddy.”
    unknown · 1:06:45
  3. pick The stories about how Shelley Duvall was treated on set: She was ill and her hair fell out, and Kubrick may have wanted her to break down.
    “The Shelley Duvall stories are really rough in a wet stage the worst.”
    unknown · 1:08:06
  4. pick The wild conspiracy takes about the movie: A debate about Room 237 and where the theory-spinning leads.
    “I think the takes about the movie, the worst.”
    unknown · 1:10:03

Casting What-Ifs · Who else was considered or could have been cast.

  1. pick Jessica Lange as Wendy: Kubrick talked him out of it.
    “Jack Nicholson wanted Jessica Lang for the role of Wendy.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:14:35
  2. pick Harrison Ford as Jack Torrance
    “According to Stephen King, Kubrick briefly considered Harrison Ford.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:14:55
  3. pick Robert De Niro as Jack Torrance: Robin Williams was also considered.
    “He also considered Robert De Niro and Robin Williams, pretty seriously, decided, um, decided against an era and thought Rob Williams would be too psychotic in the world.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:15:12
  4. pick Harry Dean Stanton as Lloyd the bartender: Stanton couldn't take it because he was filming Alien.
    “The role of Lloyd the bartender.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:15:39
  5. pick Meryl Streep as Wendy: The group says it is hard to imagine without Shelley Duvall's off-the-rails energy.
    “Meryl Streep is Wendy.”
    unknown · 1:19:23

Best That Guy (Joey Pants Award) · The best that-guy supporting actor in the movie.

  1. winner Tony Burton as Duke: He is the one Hallorann calls about the snowcat; Apollo Creed's trainer in the Rocky movies.
    “Tony Burton.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:15:58
  2. nominee Barry Nelson as the hotel manager: Floated as the manager but not in contention.
    “Barry Nelson.”
    unknown · 1:16:22

Best Overacting (Saul Rubinek / Linda Partridge Award) · The best over-the-top performance for a scene and movie.

  1. winner Jack Nicholson as Jack Torrance: Bill's pick; he yells it out.
    “Nicholson at the tail end. After Danny's gotten out of the maze, and Nicholson, for some reason, has frostbite already”
    Bill Simmons · 1:16:59
  2. nominee Shelley Duvall as Wendy: They conclude neither lead is overacting because both play it at 11.
    “I mean, Shelly Duval is like pretty hysterical throughout the whole movie and is it's very on the nose.”
    unknown · 1:17:48

Dion Waiters Award · The small role that made the biggest impact.

  1. pick Scatman Crothers as Dick Hallorann
    “Scatman. Right?”
    Bill Simmons · 1:18:12
  2. pick Lloyd the bartender: Super creepy with a weird smile.
    “Can I make the case for Lloyd the bartender?”
    unknown · 1:18:15
  3. pick Philip Stone as Delbert Grady: He basically has one scene, and the movie turns evil with it.
    “See, I think that I think it's Philip Stone.”
    unknown · 1:18:35

Apex Mountain · Where a person's career peak sits.

  1. pick Shelley Duvall: The apex is in the 70s, around Nashville and maybe Annie Hall, not The Shining.
    “Apex Mountain. Shelley Duvall?”
    Bill Simmons · 1:25:35
  2. pick Stanley Kubrick: The Shining didn't put his career in a better place; 2001 is his apex.
    “I would say 2001 is.”
    unknown · 1:26:37

Picking Nits · Nitpicks about the film.

  1. pick Danny's neck bruises clearing up so fast: Answered with ghost logic.
    “Boy, Danny's neck bruises sure cleared up fast, didn't they?”
    unknown · 1:26:42
  2. pick Danny not getting cold in the maze
    “Why didn't Danny get cold in the maze?”
    unknown · 1:27:02
  3. pick Two different Gradys: Charles and Delbert: Debated as doubles, reincarnation or just a mistake.
    “So why the 2 Gradys?”
    Bill Simmons · 1:27:44
  4. pick Dopey vanishing from Danny's wall and the chair changing: Likely continuity errors the conspiracy fans read as symbols.
    “There's 2 other weird things that they mentioned in the documentary.”
    unknown · 1:28:54

Ebert Review · Reading of Roger Ebert's take on the film.

  1. pick The Shining: Ebert was initially critical, then rallied and added it to his Great Movies; no star rating is given.
    “Inducted the film into his great movie series saying, quote, Stanley Kubrick's cold and frightening, the shining challenges us to decide who is the reliable observer.”
    unknown · 0:32:41

Best Quotes · Best quotes not yet mentioned.

  1. pick Jack: I would give my goddamn soul for a glass of beer: Jack might have given up his soul right there.
    “I would give my goddamn soul for a glass of beer.”
    unknown · 1:31:15
  2. pick Wendy? I'm home
    “Wendy?”
    unknown · 1:31:37
  3. pick Here's Johnny
    “Here's Johnny was great during an iconic Johnny Carson run.”
    unknown · 1:31:46
  4. pick Some places shine and some don't
    “Some places are like people, some shine and some don't.”
    unknown · 1:32:49
  5. pick Grady: You've had your whole fucking life to think things over
    “You've had your whole fucking life to think things over.”
    unknown · 1:33:23

Remake as Netflix series / sequel · Whether and how they'd remake it as a ten-episode series or a sequel.

  1. pick The lead-up to the week Jack loses it: Show a little drunk Jack and the car wash.
    “I would be fine spending more time in the lead up to him to the week.”
    unknown · 1:33:52
  2. pick Modernized series with internet, tweeting Danny, Googling Wendy: Jack is a Reddit moderator.
    “Here's my case for 10 episode Netflix show for this movie.”
    Chris Ryan · 1:35:39
  3. pick Sequel about a Shining conspiracy fan who takes a caretaker job
    “sequel about a guy who's obsessed with the shining and is like a shining conspiracy guy and is so into it that he takes a caretaker job.”
    unknown · 1:36:07

Unanswered Questions · Open questions about the film.

  1. pick Scarier use of La Boheme: Compared to Sleeping with the Enemy.
    “What was the scarier usage of La Bohame?”
    unknown · 1:36:25
  2. pick The impossible windows: Seen as a continuity error rather than a clue.
    “What's the point of the impossible windows?”
    unknown · 1:36:51
  3. pick Reaction to blood pouring out of the elevators: They would run.
    “What's the proper reaction from me, from you, from you?”
    unknown · 1:38:15
  4. pick Was Danny sexually abused?: They read it as physical abuse.
    “Was Danny sexually abused?”
    unknown · 1:39:35
  5. pick What they'd add when the hotel goes red: Ideas: the termite king, the big wheel driving itself.
    “Was there too much or too little when the hotel turns red at the end”
    unknown · 1:40:10
  6. pick Would you take the caretaker job
    “Was there any point in your life or would you ever consider taking this job?”
    unknown · 1:41:23
  7. pick What the ending means: The hotel absorbs souls; Jack is reincarnated.
    “What the ending mean?”
    unknown · 1:42:40
  8. pick Throwing the 100th anniversary party
    “Do we throw a 100th over the hotel anniversary party?”
    unknown · 1:44:11

Who Won the Movie · Who or what came out on top.

  1. winner Stanley Kubrick: Nicholson was uneven for the first hour; the movie is genre popcorn with disturbing images.
    “Oh, I think it's Kubrick.”
    unknown · 1:44:49
  2. nominee Jack Nicholson as Jack Torrance: The speaker says he has been getting voted down.
    “Nicholson.”
    unknown · 1:44:48

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Stephen King: 2 lines the maker said so ×1 the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (blueprint): Stephen King ⇒ The Shining (the maker said so: Kubrick quotes in the research dossier). The speakers read Kubrick saying the novel's plot is a good blueprint for the movie he wanted to make.
    “I can make whatever movie I want with that as a blueprint.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 1:04:04 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

2001: A Space Odyssey: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (led to Kubrick mythology): 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ The Shining (the host's read). 2001 is the reason for Kubrick's godlike mythology, without which people would invest less in The Shining.
    “I don't think people would invest as much into The Shining if this movie didn't exist.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 1:01:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

Doctor Sleep: 6 lines the host's read ×6

  1. lineage (lineage): The Shining ⇒ Doctor Sleep (the host's read). Doctor Sleep's script threads King's book and Kubrick's film, and addresses King's complaint about what Kubrick changed.
    “It addresses the conflict between Stephen King and what he didn't like about the Kubrick movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Fifth Annual Blank Check Awards with Joe Reid (Ad-Free) · 0:46:49 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

1980s Stephen King adaptations (Cujo, The Dead Zone, Christine, etc.): 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (led to): The Shining ⇒ 1980s Stephen King adaptations (Cujo, The Dead Zone, Christine, etc.) (the host's read). After The Shining and Carrie came the real 1980s wave of King adaptations.
    “the real 80s wave of like lots of king stuff.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:09:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Bobby's World (TV): 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (homage): The Shining ⇒ Bobby's World (TV) (the host's read). The Bobby's World opening of Bobby on a big wheel is called an homage to The Shining.
    “And it's so clearly has to be an homage to this”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:06:41 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)

Ready Player One: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (homage): The Shining ⇒ Ready Player One (the host's read). Ready Player One has a fun sequence set in the hotel.
    “Ready player one, they go to the hotel.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:26:19 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Stephen King's The Shining (1997 miniseries): 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (answered by): The Shining ⇒ Stephen King's The Shining (1997 miniseries) (the host's read). King's own miniseries is described as him showing folks the real Shining, after his objections to the film.
    “okay, time to roll up my sleeves and show you folks the real shining.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:47:01 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)

The Simpsons (TV): 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (parody): The Shining ⇒ The Simpsons (TV) (the host's read). The Simpsons parodied the film; the speaker knew its elements from parodies first.
    “I feel like I'd seen so many parodies of different elements of this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:35:57 · Ben Hosley (0.40 sure it was them)

Zodiac: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (stolen move): The Shining ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read). Fincher steals the Steadicam move where the camera turns with the car and keeps it centered.
    “Fincher steals that move of like when the car turns a corner”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:05:09 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Connected to

Doctor Sleep: 9 lines lineage ×6 craft ×1 people ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Doctor Sleep → The Shining. Doctor Sleep's script threads King's book and Kubrick's film, and addresses King's complaint about what Kubrick changed.
    “It addresses the conflict between Stephen King and what he didn't like about the Kubrick movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Fifth Annual Blank Check Awards with Joe Reid (Ad-Free) · 0:46:49 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

Stephen King: 5 lines lineage ×2 people ×1 verdict ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. lineage (King hated the adaptation): Stephen King → The Shining. The film is a Kubrick film King hated, which sits under the whole project.
    “trying to do the thing Stephen King hated”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 0:03:31 · David Sims (0.90 sure it was them)

2001: A Space Odyssey: 4 lines unmapped ×3 craft ×1

  1. unmapped (over-read): 2001: A Space Odyssey → The Shining. Like 2001, Kubrick's films prompt people to ask what they mean.
    “2001, obviously, is one of those like, wait, what's the meaning of that?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:57:06 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Zodiac: 3 lines theme ×1 craft ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. theme (personal canon): Zodiac → The Shining. Both are on Leslye's four-film Mount Rushmore.
    “It's Zodiac, the Shining, back to the future, the apartment.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac with Leslye Headland (Ad-Free) · 0:04:09 · Leslye Headland (0.90 sure it was them)

Barry Lyndon: 2 lines career ×2

  1. career (career context): Barry Lyndon → The Shining. Kubrick needed a commercial genre play after the Barry Lyndon flop.
    “off of Barry Linden was a flop”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:43:10 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Friday the 13th: 2 lines industry ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. industry (industry): Friday the 13th → The Shining. Spring and summer 1980 TV spots for Friday the 13th and The Shining both scared a ten-year-old; Friday's ad showed every murder.
    “There was 2 commercials, spring, summer, 1980 that scared the fuck out of me.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:07:38 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

Leon Vitali: 2 lines people ×2

  1. people (crew): Leon Vitali → The Shining. Vitali's first big job was scouting America for the kid to play Danny Torrance.
    “His 1st big job was to go to America and look for kids to play Danny Torrance for the Shining.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free) · 0:25:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Room 237: 2 lines theme ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (documentary about): Room 237 → The Shining. Room 237 is a documentary about the many readings of The Shining.
    “It's a movie about how many different ways this movie can be read, but it's just about it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:48:29 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Wendy Carlos: 2 lines craft ×1 people ×1

  1. people (shared composer): Wendy Carlos → The Shining. Carlos scored A Clockwork Orange, Tron, and The Shining; each indelibly iconic.
    “and each one is like indelibly iconic, even though some, you know, shining has very little music.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:31:53 · Alex Ross Perry (0.60 sure it was them)

1980s Stephen King adaptations (Cujo, The Dead Zone, Christine, etc.): 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (led to): The Shining → 1980s Stephen King adaptations (Cujo, The Dead Zone, Christine, etc.). After The Shining and Carrie came the real 1980s wave of King adaptations.
    “the real 80s wave of like lots of king stuff.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:09:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Bobby's World (TV): 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (homage): The Shining → Bobby's World (TV). The Bobby's World opening of Bobby on a big wheel is called an homage to The Shining.
    “And it's so clearly has to be an homage to this”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:06:41 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)

Bound for Glory: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (first Steadicam use): Bound for Glory → The Shining. Bound for Glory was the first use of the Steadicam, which The Shining used so heavily.
    “Bound for Glory is the 1st one, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:03:39 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Casablanca: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (much copied): Casablanca → The Shining. Casablanca and The Shining are both so copied that first-time viewers find them corny.
    “like every movie copied it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 1:13:58 · Tim Simons (0.45 sure it was them)

Doctor Sleep (King's novel): 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (King's disavowal): Doctor Sleep (King's novel) → The Shining. King's sequel book, speakers say, goes out of its way to say Kubrick's movie did not happen.
    “it feels like he's even, you know, trying in the book to be like, and that movie didn't happen, FYI”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 0:23:19 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Dr. Strangelove: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (humor ranking): Dr. Strangelove → The Shining. Strangelove ranks lower for the speaker than Barry Lyndon, The Shining and Eyes Wide Shut among Kubrick's funny films.
    “I, I, I rank Strange Love lower in the pack of movies I find funny by him.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Full Metal Jacket with Jon Gabrus (Ad-Free) · 1:36:54 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Fargo: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Fargo → The Shining. A carpeted-restaurant joke leads to Kubrick's carpets and a Palm Springs hotel with the same carpet as the Shining hotel.
    “I was at a hotel in Palm Springs a few months ago and it has the exact same carpet as the Shining Hotel.”
    The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 0:14:46 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50 sure it was them)

Garrett Brown: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (Steadicam operator): Garrett Brown → The Shining. Garrett Brown, who invented the Steadicam, operated it for the Steadicam shots.
    “Garrett Brown, who invented it, does all operates the camera for all the city cam shots.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:04:13 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Halloween: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (release timing): Halloween → The Shining. The Shining arrives two years after Halloween rewrote the rules of killing everyone.
    “But yeah, this movie is 2 years after Halloween”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:04:26 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Hanging Up: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Hanging Up → The Shining. The film feels like re-edited footage cut into a different genre, like trailer recuts of The Shining.
    “The movie almost feels like one of those like trailer re-edits that used to be so popular”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Hanging Up with Sonia Sarayia · 0:57:55 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Jane Fonda: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if casting): Jane Fonda → The Shining. Kubrick said you could not have Jane Fonda in the part.
    “you can't have Jane Fawn to play this part.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 1:41:23 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Jaws: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (release timing): Jaws → The Shining. The Shining comes five years after Jaws, which also feels deadlier than it is.
    “This is 5 years after Jaws.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:05:05 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Jessica Lange: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if casting): Jessica Lange → The Shining. Nicholson wanted Jessica Lange for Wendy.
    “I kind of wanted Jessica Lang”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 1:41:35 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Joe Turkel: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Joe Turkel → The Shining. Turkel, from many Kubrick movies, becomes the bartender in The Shining.
    “becomes the bartender in the Shining, but also he's Tyrell and Blade Runner.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 1:27:59 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)

Nope: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (over-read puzzle): Nope → The Shining. Kubrick was not leaving breadcrumbs, unlike filmmakers like Peele who now construct puzzle movies.
    “Whereas I think Kubrick was not intentionally like leaving a trail of breadcrumbs”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:51:58 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Panic Room: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Panic Room → The Shining. Also a single-house movie, but The Shining's characters at least get to run through a maze.
    “They probably had the same kind of problem on the shining. That's all in one house, but at least they get out.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:18:21 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)

Philip Stone: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (shared actor): Philip Stone → The Shining. Stone is Grady in The Shining and the dad in Clockwork Orange, here in a sympathetic role.
    “Grady, the caretaker, the ghost of the caretaker and the shining, and the dad and cockroach orange.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Barry Lyndon with Karina Longworth (Ad-Free) · 1:45:38 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Ready Player One: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (homage): The Shining → Ready Player One. Ready Player One has a fun sequence set in the hotel.
    “Ready player one, they go to the hotel.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:26:19 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Scent of a Woman: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (comparison): The Shining → Scent of a Woman. Nicholson's performance is compared to Pacino's codifying all his tics in one role.
    “this kind of is his sense of a woman, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:35:53 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Seven: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Seven → The Shining. Se7en, Zodiac, The Shining, Silence of the Lambs form a separate breed, nicknamed Oscar horror.
    “It's almost like Oscar horror, I guess, would be the category.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:59:03 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)

Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (same weekend): The Shining → Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back. The Shining platformed against the wide release of The Empire Strikes Back.
    “this movie came out platform against the wide release of another very famous movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:37:47 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Stephen King's The Shining (1997 miniseries): 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (answered by): The Shining → Stephen King's The Shining (1997 miniseries). King's own miniseries is described as him showing folks the real Shining, after his objections to the film.
    “okay, time to roll up my sleeves and show you folks the real shining.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:47:01 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)

The Exorcist: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (prestige horror): The Exorcist → The Shining. Compared as prestige horror with major actors based on a bestseller.
    “That's a similar thing where it's like prestige horror with major actors based on a bestseller.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:07:24 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

The Simpsons (TV): 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (parody): The Shining → The Simpsons (TV). The Simpsons parodied the film; the speaker knew its elements from parodies first.
    “I feel like I'd seen so many parodies of different elements of this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:35:57 · Ben Hosley (0.40 sure it was them)

The War of the Roses: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The War of the Roses → The Shining. The house in Roses becomes a domestic horror, with the Shining hotel as its sequel image.
    “The shining house, just for the shining hotel.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:31:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Twister: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Twister → The Shining. The drive-in tornado scene works because a tornado tears the screen while the audience watches The Shining, a frightening movie with a real threat behind it.
    “there's something coming behind that that's actually fucking frightening and it just starts ripping.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:43:59 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (3)

  1. career (career context): Barry Lyndon → The Shining. Kubrick needed a commercial genre play after the Barry Lyndon flop.
    “off of Barry Linden was a flop”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:43:10 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. career (next film): Barry Lyndon → The Shining. Kubrick's next movie after Barry Lyndon was The Shining, a swerve toward a bestseller.
    “His next movie was The Shining.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Barry Lyndon with Karina Longworth (Ad-Free) · 2:00:38 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. career (career): Joe Turkel → The Shining. Turkel, from many Kubrick movies, becomes the bartender in The Shining.
    “becomes the bartender in the Shining, but also he's Tyrell and Blade Runner.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Paths of Glory with Sarah Marshall (Ad-Free) · 1:27:59 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (contrast): Panic Room → The Shining. Also a single-house movie, but The Shining's characters at least get to run through a maze.
    “They probably had the same kind of problem on the shining. That's all in one house, but at least they get out.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:18:21 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)

craft (5)

  1. craft (labyrinthian structure): The Shining → Zodiac. Zodiac's episodic, not-three-act feel is likened to The Shining's labyrinth.
    “it's not a slave to the 3 act structure, it's interstitial, it's got this sort of episodic feel to it and not unlike the shining.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac with Leslye Headland (Ad-Free) · 0:32:02 · Leslye Headland (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. craft (visual echo): Doctor Sleep → The Shining. The hospice office is composed like the Overlook interview scene, reversed so the boss helps instead of dooms.
    “It's composed like the exact same way as that 1st interview sequence in the original film.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 0:59:43 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. craft (music): Wendy Carlos → The Shining. Wendy Carlos's music is credited with making the crash zooms scary.
    “Crash zooms are just always so effective with that fucking Wendy Carlos.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:29:57 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)
  4. craft (shot echo): 2001: A Space Odyssey → The Shining. Bowman about to kill HAL is shot from below, handheld, like a Shining shot.
    “He's about to kill Hal, and it's a shining shot.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:57:45 · Jordan Hoffman (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. craft (craft): Hanging Up → The Shining. The film feels like re-edited footage cut into a different genre, like trailer recuts of The Shining.
    “The movie almost feels like one of those like trailer re-edits that used to be so popular”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Hanging Up with Sonia Sarayia · 0:57:55 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

industry (4)

  1. industry (industry): Friday the 13th → The Shining. Spring and summer 1980 TV spots for Friday the 13th and The Shining both scared a ten-year-old; Friday's ad showed every murder.
    “There was 2 commercials, spring, summer, 1980 that scared the fuck out of me.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:07:38 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. industry (release timing): Halloween → The Shining. The Shining arrives two years after Halloween rewrote the rules of killing everyone.
    “But yeah, this movie is 2 years after Halloween”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:04:26 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. industry (release timing): Jaws → The Shining. The Shining comes five years after Jaws, which also feels deadlier than it is.
    “This is 5 years after Jaws.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:05:05 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. industry (same weekend): The Shining → Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back. The Shining platformed against the wide release of The Empire Strikes Back.
    “this movie came out platform against the wide release of another very famous movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:37:47 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

lineage (10)

  1. lineage (lineage): Doctor Sleep → The Shining. Doctor Sleep uses grown-up Danny and a new generation, Abra Stone.
    “Using a familiar figure from the original film in Danny, the grown up Danny”
    The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:31:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (King hated the adaptation): Stephen King → The Shining. The film is a Kubrick film King hated, which sits under the whole project.
    “trying to do the thing Stephen King hated”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 0:03:31 · David Sims (0.90 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (sequel): The Shining → Doctor Sleep. Doctor Sleep is the sequel to Kubrick's The Shining, which is the whole sell and the whole problem.
    “You're doing a sequel to The Shining.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 0:12:41 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. lineage (adaptation): Stephen King → The Shining. The film is the second Stephen King novel adaptation, after Carrie.
    “This is the 2nd Stephen King film adaptation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:09:27 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. lineage (sequel): The Shining → Doctor Sleep. Doctor Sleep is the sequel to The Shining.
    “Dr. Sleep, the sequel to, which I feel like is actually a better movie”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:58:43 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  6. lineage (homage): The Shining → Bobby's World (TV). The Bobby's World opening of Bobby on a big wheel is called an homage to The Shining.
    “And it's so clearly has to be an homage to this”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:06:41 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)
  7. lineage (homage): The Shining → Doctor Sleep. Doctor Sleep has to pay some homage to Kubrick while following a novel whose author hates the film.
    “it has to thread paying some homage to Kubrick”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:14:53 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  8. lineage (homage): The Shining → Ready Player One. Ready Player One has a fun sequence set in the hotel.
    “Ready player one, they go to the hotel.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:26:19 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  9. lineage (sequel): The Shining → Doctor Sleep. Doctor Sleep is named as a continuation of The Shining, with the Stephen King thing.
    “There's also Doctor Sleep.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:48:12 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  10. lineage (lineage): Doctor Sleep → The Shining. Doctor Sleep's script threads King's book and Kubrick's film, and addresses King's complaint about what Kubrick changed.
    “It addresses the conflict between Stephen King and what he didn't like about the Kubrick movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Fifth Annual Blank Check Awards with Joe Reid (Ad-Free) · 0:46:49 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

people (6)

  1. people (feud): Stephen King → The Shining. King famously thought he could beat Kubrick in a reputation fight about The Shining.
    “He famously thought he could beat Stanley Kubrick in a reputation off about the shining.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 0:23:04 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. people (crew): Leon Vitali → The Shining. Vitali's first big job was scouting America for the kid to play Danny Torrance.
    “His 1st big job was to go to America and look for kids to play Danny Torrance for the Shining.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free) · 0:25:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. people (cameo link): Doctor Sleep → The Shining. The boy who played Danny in The Shining appears as a parent on the sideline in the baseball scene.
    “That is the kid who plays Danny in the original Shining.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 1:05:22 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. people (casting): Leon Vitali → The Shining. Vitali was the main person who had to find Danny Torrance.
    “him being the main person who had to find Danny Torrance for the shining”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Barry Lyndon with Karina Longworth (Ad-Free) · 1:28:41 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. people (shared actor): Philip Stone → The Shining. Stone is Grady in The Shining and the dad in Clockwork Orange, here in a sympathetic role.
    “Grady, the caretaker, the ghost of the caretaker and the shining, and the dad and cockroach orange.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Barry Lyndon with Karina Longworth (Ad-Free) · 1:45:38 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. people (shared composer): Wendy Carlos → The Shining. Carlos scored A Clockwork Orange, Tron, and The Shining; each indelibly iconic.
    “and each one is like indelibly iconic, even though some, you know, shining has very little music.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:31:53 · Alex Ross Perry (0.60 sure it was them)

theme (7)

  1. theme (theme): The Shining → Room 237. Room 237 documentary argues there are no accidents with Kubrick, down to the carpet changing between shots.
    “That was one of the things in the room 237 documentary where they get into how there are no accidents with Kubrick and they talk about the carpet.”
    The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 0:14:28 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme): Fargo → The Shining. A carpeted-restaurant joke leads to Kubrick's carpets and a Palm Springs hotel with the same carpet as the Shining hotel.
    “I was at a hotel in Palm Springs a few months ago and it has the exact same carpet as the Shining Hotel.”
    The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 0:14:46 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme): Twister → The Shining. The drive-in tornado scene works because a tornado tears the screen while the audience watches The Shining, a frightening movie with a real threat behind it.
    “there's something coming behind that that's actually fucking frightening and it just starts ripping.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:43:59 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. theme (theme): The War of the Roses → The Shining. The house in Roses becomes a domestic horror, with the Shining hotel as its sequel image.
    “The shining house, just for the shining hotel.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:31:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. theme (theme): Seven → The Shining. Se7en, Zodiac, The Shining, Silence of the Lambs form a separate breed, nicknamed Oscar horror.
    “It's almost like Oscar horror, I guess, would be the category.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:59:03 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
  6. theme (personal canon): Zodiac → The Shining. Both are on Leslye's four-film Mount Rushmore.
    “It's Zodiac, the Shining, back to the future, the apartment.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac with Leslye Headland (Ad-Free) · 0:04:09 · Leslye Headland (0.90 sure it was them)
  7. theme (comparison): The Shining → Scent of a Woman. Nicholson's performance is compared to Pacino's codifying all his tics in one role.
    “this kind of is his sense of a woman, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:35:53 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (17)

  1. unmapped (King's disavowal): Doctor Sleep (King's novel) → The Shining. King's sequel book, speakers say, goes out of its way to say Kubrick's movie did not happen.
    “it feels like he's even, you know, trying in the book to be like, and that movie didn't happen, FYI”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 0:23:19 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (recreated sets): Doctor Sleep → The Shining. Flanagan rebuilds the Overlook's art direction detail for detail without trying to ape Kubrick's style.
    “Every typewriter is the same color”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 1:12:31 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (prestige horror): The Exorcist → The Shining. Compared as prestige horror with major actors based on a bestseller.
    “That's a similar thing where it's like prestige horror with major actors based on a bestseller.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:07:24 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (led to): The Shining → 1980s Stephen King adaptations (Cujo, The Dead Zone, Christine, etc.). After The Shining and Carrie came the real 1980s wave of King adaptations.
    “the real 80s wave of like lots of king stuff.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:09:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (answered by): The Shining → Stephen King's The Shining (1997 miniseries). King's own miniseries is described as him showing folks the real Shining, after his objections to the film.
    “okay, time to roll up my sleeves and show you folks the real shining.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:47:01 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)
  6. unmapped (documentary about): Room 237 → The Shining. Room 237 is a documentary about the many readings of The Shining.
    “It's a movie about how many different ways this movie can be read, but it's just about it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:48:29 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  7. unmapped (over-read puzzle): Nope → The Shining. Kubrick was not leaving breadcrumbs, unlike filmmakers like Peele who now construct puzzle movies.
    “Whereas I think Kubrick was not intentionally like leaving a trail of breadcrumbs”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:51:58 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  8. unmapped (over-read): 2001: A Space Odyssey → The Shining. Like 2001, Kubrick's films prompt people to ask what they mean.
    “2001, obviously, is one of those like, wait, what's the meaning of that?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 0:57:06 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  9. unmapped (blueprint): Stephen King → The Shining. The speakers read Kubrick saying the novel's plot is a good blueprint for the movie he wanted to make.
    “I can make whatever movie I want with that as a blueprint.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 1:04:04 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  10. unmapped (much copied): Casablanca → The Shining. Casablanca and The Shining are both so copied that first-time viewers find them corny.
    “like every movie copied it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 1:13:58 · Tim Simons (0.45 sure it was them)
  11. unmapped (first Steadicam use): Bound for Glory → The Shining. Bound for Glory was the first use of the Steadicam, which The Shining used so heavily.
    “Bound for Glory is the 1st one, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:03:39 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  12. unmapped (Steadicam operator): Garrett Brown → The Shining. Garrett Brown, who invented the Steadicam, operated it for the Steadicam shots.
    “Garrett Brown, who invented it, does all operates the camera for all the city cam shots.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:04:13 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  13. unmapped (stolen move): The Shining → Zodiac. Fincher steals the Steadicam move where the camera turns with the car and keeps it centered.
    “Fincher steals that move of like when the car turns a corner”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:05:09 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  14. unmapped (parody): The Shining → The Simpsons (TV). The Simpsons parodied the film; the speaker knew its elements from parodies first.
    “I feel like I'd seen so many parodies of different elements of this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:35:57 · Ben Hosley (0.40 sure it was them)
  15. unmapped (same period): The Shining → Friday the 13th. Friday the 13th had opened two weeks earlier; both worked at the box office.
    “Friday 13th had opened maybe 2 weeks ago or whatever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:39:14 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  16. unmapped (cultural shadow): 2001: A Space Odyssey → The Shining. The Shining and 2001 are the two Kubrick films casting the largest cultural shadows.
    “These are the 2 movies that cast the largest cultural shadows to this day.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:08:39 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  17. unmapped (led to Kubrick mythology): 2001: A Space Odyssey → The Shining. 2001 is the reason for Kubrick's godlike mythology, without which people would invest less in The Shining.
    “I don't think people would invest as much into The Shining if this movie didn't exist.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 1:01:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

verdict (2)

  1. verdict (verdict): The Shining → Stephen King. King did not even like The Shining despite it being a top King movie.
    “And the shining he didn't even like.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman · 0:04:47 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (humor ranking): Dr. Strangelove → The Shining. Strangelove ranks lower for the speaker than Barry Lyndon, The Shining and Eyes Wide Shut among Kubrick's funny films.
    “I, I, I rank Strange Love lower in the pack of movies I find funny by him.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Full Metal Jacket with Jon Gabrus (Ad-Free) · 1:36:54 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

what-if (2)

  1. what-if (what-if casting): Jane Fonda → The Shining. Kubrick said you could not have Jane Fonda in the part.
    “you can't have Jane Fawn to play this part.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 1:41:23 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. what-if (what-if casting): Jessica Lange → The Shining. Nicholson wanted Jessica Lange for Wendy.
    “I kind of wanted Jessica Lang”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 1:41:35 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about The Shining: The tub lady gets more screen time in the director's cut, with a joke about her asking for the loofah.
    “She says, can you pass the loofah?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Doctor Sleep · 0:27:50 · Griffin Newman (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about The Shining: Kubrick called the Steadicam a magic carpet; the camera follows Danny's Big Wheel across carpet and wood.
    “And he calls it like a magic carpet, which is really cool.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:04:06 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about The Shining: The Big Wheel scenes: the game of how much carpet is left before the sound changes to wood.
    “How much carpet do I have left before I hit wood and how different does the wood sound than the carpet?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:05:56 · Tim Simons (0.45 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about The Shining: Costume note: Wendy's yellow chore coat with embroidery over denim and moccasins is a standout look.
    “like a yellow chore coat with like this beautiful embroidery on it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:07:39 · Tim Simons (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about The Shining: See the scene with Danny and the bedroom mirror, where Jack sees himself only through his son.
    “only by looking at his son, does he realize who he is and who he's becoming”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:09:46 · Tim Simons (0.50 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about The Shining: Look for the typed manuscript pages: the PAs typed every page by hand, because Kubrick would not allow Xeroxes.
    “Oh, um, yeah, I wanted to say the poor fucking PAs.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:10:52 · Griffin Newman (0.45 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about The Shining: In the gold room blood scene, one chair moves between shots, a rare slip in a controlled film.
    “it's funny that the chair moves.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:18:43 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about The Shining: The original epilogue, with Wendy and Danny in the hospital, screened briefly before Kubrick cut it.
    “There was the original ending that he cut out pretty quickly, but that did screen originally, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:24:22 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)
  9. fun, about The Shining: The UK cut: Kubrick himself trimmed 30 minutes after the film played badly there.
    “in the UK, the movie was not playing well, and Kubrick himself cut 30 minutes.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:25:44 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  10. fun, about The Shining: An Entertainment Weekly quote from Diane Johnson on the final photo: Jack had been the hotel's creature through reincarnation.
    “The idea that Jack was always at the hotel in some earlier incarnation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:32:14 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  11. fun, about The Shining: It opened in roughly ten theaters before going wide, against The Empire Strikes Back on Memorial Day weekend.
    “This movie was like 10 theaters opening weekend and then like a thousand.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:37:02 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  12. fun, about The Shining: It was nominated for two Razzies and got mixed-ish reviews in its day.
    “it was famously nominated for 2 Razzies and got like mixed-ish reviews at the time.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free) · 2:37:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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