The Rolling Stones
Made films the shows talk about.
Counted as composer, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they scored, which the two lists below run through too: Apocalypse Now (1979); The Big Chill (1983); Cruel Intentions (1999); The Royal Tenenbaums (2001); Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019); Love Is Strong (Rolling Stones video).
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Apocalypse Now (1979): 1 line, within their own work
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lineage (visual influence) · through Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019), which they scored:
Apocalypse Now ⇒ Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (the host's read).
The dogs at Spahn Ranch play the role of the Duvall helicopters, constantly present and disorienting.
“He wanted the dogs to be the helicopters.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:37:25 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice (1969): 1 line
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lineage (influence) · through Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019), which they scored:
Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice ⇒ Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (the maker said so).
Tarantino said Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice influenced the characters, looks, and scenery.
“Quinn said Bob and Carol and Ted Alice was a big influence on this movie”
The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:09:23 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Francois Truffaut: 1 line
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lineage (influence) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored:
Francois Truffaut ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read).
French New Wave influence.
“Francois Truffaux, Sholu Qadar, the French New Wave.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald · 1:15:59 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
French New Wave: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored:
French New Wave ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read).
Combines the emotionality and cutting style of French new wave with the rawness of 70s American cinema.
“You've got 70s American cinema and you've also got 60s French new wave.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’ · 0:06:33 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored:
From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read).
The vibe of that kid-runaway book imbues the first 40 minutes, including the narration and child-genius portraiture.
“the whole vibe of that book is imbued in the 1st 40 minutes of this movie, most of the narration, most of the young Tenenbaum's portraiture of these 3 child geniuses.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’ · 0:05:56 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Harold and Maud: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored:
Harold and Maud ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read).
Off-kilter characterization, 70s feel, overcoats, and suicide attempts; in the bloodstream of Tenenbaums and Squid and the Whale.
“Harold and Maud is very much in the bloodstream of, of, the Royal Ten of bombs and Squid and the whale.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’ · 0:37:40 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Jean-Luc Godard: 1 line
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lineage (influence) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored:
Jean-Luc Godard ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the maker said so: Matt Zoller Seitz's book on the movie).
The mosaic of book covers was inspired by a Godard movie doing something similar.
“he was inspired by, I think it was a Godard movie that did something similar, of course.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald · 0:53:10 · Andy Greenwald (0.50 sure it was them)
Lee Van Cleef: 1 line
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lineage (source of a detail) · through Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019), which they scored:
Lee Van Cleef ⇒ Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (the maker said so: he told me; I asked Quentin about it).
The painting of Rick in the driveway came from Tarantino finding a giant Lee Van Cleef painting in the actor's garage while scouting.
“that's why I put a painting of Rick in the driveway.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:44:51 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Louis Malle: 1 line
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lineage (influence) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored:
Louis Malle ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read).
French New Wave directors listed among its influences.
“some of the influences on this movie include films by Louis Maule. Um, uh, Francois Truffaux, Sholu Qadar, the French New Wave.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald · 1:15:51 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Pulp Fiction (1994): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019), which they scored:
Pulp Fiction ⇒ Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (the host's read).
Marcellus's you-pride-only-hurts speech to Butch is the same speech Pacino gives DiCaprio in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
“And it's the same speech that Pacino gives DiCaprio at Rousseau and Frank in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Pulp Fiction’ (Part 2) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:17:32 · unknown (0.00 sure it was them)
Return of the Secaucus 7: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they scored:
Return of the Secaucus 7 ⇒ The Big Chill (the host's read).
Called a precursor to The Big Chill.
“precursor to this movie, Socaucus 7 is like this.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:05:04 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
The Catcher in the Rye / Franny and Zooey: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored:
The Catcher in the Rye / Franny and Zooey ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read).
Salinger's Glass-family stories are the key literary influence.
“Zoe is like the key influence on this film”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’ · 0:05:35 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
The Hateful Eight (2015): 1 line
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theme (opening echo) · through Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019), which they scored:
The Hateful Eight ⇒ Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (the host's read).
The slow pan out to the painting of Rick echoes the slow pan out to the Jesus statue in Hateful Eight.
“It's very similar to the beginning of Hateful 8, where there's this very slow panout and it's like a Jesus Christ statue.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:44:05 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
The Magnificent Ambersons (1942): 1 line
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lineage (influence) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored:
The Magnificent Ambersons ⇒ The Royal Tenenbaums (the host's read).
Named as a huge influence; rewatching Ambersons shows how much of it is in Tenenbaums.
“it's wild how much, uh, ten bombs or how much Amberson's is in ten bombs.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald · 1:16:15 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974): 1 line
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lineage (visual influence) · through Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019), which they scored:
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (the host's read).
Tarantino wanted the Spahn Ranch sequence to feel like Texas Chain Saw Massacre.
“Tarantino wanted it to look like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and had his crew research, Texas Chant, and the whole feel of it and how desolate it was.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:37:06 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Wanted: Dead or Alive (1958): 1 line
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lineage (based on) · through Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019), which they scored:
Wanted: Dead or Alive ⇒ Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (the host's read).
Bounty Law is based on Steve McQueen's Wanted Dead or Alive.
“Bounty Lostar, which was based on Wanted Dead or Alive with Steve McQueen”
The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:16:14 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
10 Years: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they scored:
The Big Chill ⇒ 10 Years (the host's read).
Another reunion-with-a-great-cast attempt that did not match The Big Chill.
“I kind of like 10 years.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:05:20 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Beautiful Girls (1996): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they scored:
The Big Chill ⇒ Beautiful Girls (the host's read).
Named among the later films that tried and failed to be the Big Chill for a new generation, along with About Alex.
“I remember beautiful girls tried in the mid 90s and there's a movie called About Alex and the mid 2010s.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:04:50 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Bill Clinton: 1 line
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theme (theme) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they scored:
The Big Chill ⇒ Bill Clinton (the host's read).
EW's 15th anniversary review blamed The Big Chill for soundtrack albums, 30-something, and Bill Clinton.
“Hell, blame the big show for Bill Quinton.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:29:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Dead Presidents (1995): 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Apocalypse Now (1979), which they scored:
Apocalypse Now ⇒ Dead Presidents (the host's read).
The Hughes brothers kept an Apocalypse Now poster; the film borrows its helicopter shots.
“The directors were big time movie obsessives, who kept an apocalypse now poster on the wall of their Hollywood studio.”
The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:50:27 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
Hometown (TV series): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they scored:
The Big Chill ⇒ Hometown (TV series) (the host's read).
The Big Chill was adapted as a short-lived 16-episode TV series called Hometown in 1986.
“As the short-lived series hometown?”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:11:06 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019): 1 line, within their own work
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lineage (visual influence) · through Apocalypse Now (1979), which they scored:
Apocalypse Now ⇒ Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (the host's read).
The dogs at Spahn Ranch play the role of the Duvall helicopters, constantly present and disorienting.
“He wanted the dogs to be the helicopters.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:37:25 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Reality Bites (1994): 1 line
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theme (theme) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they scored:
The Big Chill ⇒ Reality Bites (the host's read).
Reality Bites is the young-person reaction to the sold-out generation The Big Chill depicts.
“And then that's why like reality bites hits and you see reality bites and you're like, oh, that's why Troy is like, fuck everything.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:12:44 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Robbie Robertson: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · them, directly:
The Rolling Stones ⇒ Robbie Robertson (the host's read).
The score's first hour plays like Rolling Stones rock transplanted to Oklahoma.
“Even the Robbie Robertson score in the 1st hour is like, what if we were doing like Oklahoma Rolling Stones?”
The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:30:04 · Sean Fennessey or Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
Saving Private Ryan (1998): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Apocalypse Now (1979), which they scored:
Apocalypse Now ⇒ Saving Private Ryan (the host's read).
Two decades of Apocalypse Now, Platoon and Born made Ryan's grit necessary.
“By the time Saving Private Ryan was released, moviegoers have spent two decades being confronted by the likes of Apocalypse Now in Platoon and born in the Fourth of July.”
The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 1:00:36 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): 1 line
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lineage (technique precursor) · through Love Is Strong (Rolling Stones video), which they scored:
Love Is Strong (Rolling Stones video) ⇒ The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (the host's read).
A host guesses the Stones' giant-scale effects helped Fincher on Benjamin Button.
“Well, and I bet this helped for Benjamin Button eventually.”
Blank Check — Patreon · David Fincher Music Videos · 1:59:12 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014): 1 line
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verdict (verdict) · through The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), which they scored:
The Royal Tenenbaums ⇒ The Grand Budapest Hotel (the host's read).
Grand Budapest is the best alternative case for the Anderson slot, but it could not exist without Tenenbaums' blueprint.
“Um, but Grand Budapest does not exist.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’ · 0:38:16 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
The Intervention: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Big Chill (1983), which they scored:
The Big Chill ⇒ The Intervention (the host's read).
Another indie friends-weekend film in the same vortex.
“There was a movie called The Intervention.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:05:24 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Music (7) everyone in music
- song "Satisfaction", Apocalypse Now (The Rewatchables, ‘Pulp Fiction’ (Part 2) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- song (the Stones song that kicks in at the funeral reception, 'You Can't Always Get What You Want'), The Big Chill (The Rewatchables, ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- two songs in the film, not on the soundtrack, The Royal Tenenbaums (The Rewatchables, ‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald)
- music (out-of-time Rolling Stones sequence with the lights coming on), Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (The Rewatchables, ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- songs in the film, including 'Ruby Tuesday' and a more obscure one, The Royal Tenenbaums (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’)
- band, Love Is Strong (Rolling Stones video) (Blank Check — Patreon, David Fincher Music Videos)
- rights holders of the Bittersweet Symphony sample, who had to be paid, Cruel Intentions (Blank Check — Patreon, Guardians of the Galaxy)
Other (1) everyone in other
- band that wanted to make the book (Jagger as Alex), The Rolling Stones' planned adaptation (unmade) (Blank Check — Patreon, A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free))
What was said about them, by kind
craft (3)
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craft (craft):
The Rolling Stones → Apocalypse Now.
The speaker heard "Satisfaction" play in Apocalypse Now at a recent screening and compares hearing it fresh to hearing Jackson's performance fresh.
“And satisfaction plays in that movie and I was like, this song's fucking good, man.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Pulp Fiction’ (Part 2) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:08:13 · unidentified host (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
The Rolling Stones → The Big Chill.
The Stones song at the reception, with Karen playing it on the organ, is called as well used as a song ever is in a movie.
“And then the fucking Rolling Stones come in and it's used as well as you're gonna ever use a song in a movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:21:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
The Royal Tenenbaums → The Rolling Stones.
The film uses a more obscure Rolling Stones song and then 'Ruby Tuesday'.
“he gives you slightly more obscure Rolling Stone song and then he gives you a Ruby Tuesday.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’ · 0:20:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
lineage (1)
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lineage (lineage):
Robbie Robertson → The Rolling Stones.
The score's first hour plays like Rolling Stones rock transplanted to Oklahoma.
“Even the Robbie Robertson score in the 1st hour is like, what if we were doing like Oklahoma Rolling Stones?”
The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:30:04 · Sean Fennessey or Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
None.