The Big Picture: ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding

Published 2023-10-20; 1:49:34 by the feed.

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The extraction calls the show “The Big Picture (The Ringer)” and the episode “'Killers of the Flower Moon' Is Astounding”.

Hosts: Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins. Guests: Bobby Wagner (producer, speaks from about 1:19:54).

Subject films: Killers of the Flower Moon (2023).

On the transcript: No speaker labels; Sean and Amanda are often interleaved mid-sentence in the same line so attribution confidence is moderate. Pre-roll is an ad for Wedding Scammer, skipped; Bobby Wagner speaks from about 1:19:54 to 1:23:56.

Films that came up

subject (1)

Killers of the Flower Moon

compared (22)

Casino · Silence · The Aviator · Gangs of New York · The Wolf of Wall Street · Raging Bull · Taxi Driver · What's Eating Gilbert Grape · Don't Look Up · Titanic · Goodfellas · The Age of Innocence · Kundun · Reservation Dogs · The Irishman · Giant · Shane · The Last Temptation of Christ · Heaven's Gate · Oppenheimer · No Country for Old Men · Dunkirk

anecdote (2)

Marvin's Room · Certain Women

passing (13)

This Boy's Life · Gettysburg · Fair Play · Barbie · The English Patient · The Gold (TV series) · The Simpsons: 'Stonecutters' · Psycho · The Amazing Race (TV) · Lessons in Chemistry (TV series) · American Fiction · Poor Things · Deadpool 3

Claims (41)

  1. verdict (scorsese tier): Killers of the Flower Moon → Casino. Sean's first impression put it in Scorsese's second tier with the big epics.
    “this reminds me a lot of casino. It reminds me a lot of silence.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:03:05 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (scorsese tier): Killers of the Flower Moon → Silence. Grouped with the hard-to-make, resonant big epics.
    “It reminds me a lot of silence.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:03:10 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. people (reunion): Leonardo DiCaprio → Robert De Niro. First on-screen pairing since This Boy's Life (1993), with Marvin's Room also a joint credit.
    “since De Niro and Leo appeared on screen together, since this boy's life in 1993.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:06:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. craft (opening style): Killers of the Flower Moon → Goodfellas. The opening tracking shot echoes the Copacabana shot before the film rejects that mode.
    “It was a very long tracking shot through Leo's arrival, which is, you know, gesturing to Copacabana”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:14:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (dim protagonist): Killers of the Flower Moon → Taxi Driver. Ernest joins Scorsese's lineage of dim men wreaking havoc: Jake LaMotta, Travis Bickle, Henry Hill.
    “You could say this is true of Jake Lamata. You could say this is true of Travis Bickle. You could say this is true of Henry Hill.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:24:25 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  6. unmapped (dim protagonist): Killers of the Flower Moon → Raging Bull. Jake LaMotta cited as an earlier dim Scorsese protagonist.
    “You could say this is true of Jake Lamata.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:24:25 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  7. people (performance echo): Killers of the Flower Moon → What's Eating Gilbert Grape. DiCaprio's mannered Ernest is the nearest earlier performance in his career.
    “The only thing I could think of that was sort of in this zone is what's eating Gilbert Grape”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:25:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  8. theme (character echo): Killers of the Flower Moon → The Wolf of Wall Street. Both feature a too-smart-for-his-own-good man doing dumb things who thinks he'll get away with it.
    “I thought a lot of Wolf of Wall Street. While doing it because that is a guy who is too smart for his own good, but also doing a lot of really dumb shit.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:26:35 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  9. theme (rejects persona): Leonardo DiCaprio → Titanic. His broken, dim characters read as a rejection of Jack in Titanic and the matinee-idol image.
    “maybe all of this is a one long rejection of Jack from Titanic”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:27:38 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  10. unmapped (filmmaker in dialogue): Killers of the Flower Moon → The Wolf of Wall Street. The film is in dialogue with what its artists did before (Goodfellas, Wolf, every De Niro character).
    “this movie is in dialogue with what all of its artists and filmmakers have done before.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:27:43 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  11. contrast (inverts): Killers of the Flower Moon → Goodfellas. Same crimes by white men but with no romance or good life, a deliberate answer to Goodfellas' seductiveness.
    “there's a romance to Goodfellas that does not exist here.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:28:46 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  12. craft (craft): Thelma Schoonmaker → Killers of the Flower Moon. Her signature cutting style appears in Killers only for the violent outbursts, not the hard push-in zooms of old.
    “the Thelma Schoolmaker cutting style, which they use like sometimes in this movie, but only really for the violent outbursts.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:29:37 · Sean Fennessey or Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  13. lineage (lineage): Robbie Robertson → The Rolling Stones. The score's first hour plays like Rolling Stones rock transplanted to Oklahoma.
    “Even the Robbie Robertson score in the 1st hour is like, what if we were doing like Oklahoma Rolling Stones?”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:30:04 · Sean Fennessey or Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  14. career (career): Robbie Robertson → The Band. The score blends his Indigenous roots and what he did with The Band into the film's sound.
    “Robbie Robertson has indigenous roots in Canada, and he understands that this music and kind of like blends what he did with the band, with this sound.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:30:19 · Sean Fennessey or Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  15. people (people): Martin Scorsese → Robbie Robertson. The score is described as a culmination of Scorsese and Robertson's whole project together.
    “It's just, it's kind of like weirdly like a culmination of their whole project together”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:30:42 · Sean Fennessey or Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  16. unmapped (love as power struggle): Killers of the Flower Moon → The Age of Innocence. The messy love affair between Ernest and Molly evokes The Age of Innocence.
    “I guess maybe a little bit in the age of innocence, you see this.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:34:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  17. lineage (callback): Killers of the Flower Moon → Titanic. The car make-out scene is a funny Titanic callback.
    “I thought there was a really funny callback to Titanic when they're making out in the car.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:35:48 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  18. unmapped (cultural context): Killers of the Flower Moon → Reservation Dogs. Reservation Dogs is cited as one of the few truly mainstream pieces of Native culture, contrasting with the absence of a big indigenous-made epic.
    “reservation dogs has become one of the most acclaimed shows of the last 10 years.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:50:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  19. unmapped (convergence): Killers of the Flower Moon → The Irishman. Both bring together all themes Scorsese cares about.
    “This is a convergence movie, in the way that so many of these movies are convergence, but silence is a convergence movie. The Irishman is a convergence movie.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:51:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  20. unmapped (discovery): Martin Scorsese → Lily Gladstone. Scorsese became aware of Gladstone through Kelly Reichardt's Certain Women.
    “he became aware of Lily Gladstone because he saw Kelly Rikert's certain women.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:52:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  21. unmapped (late-period reflection): Killers of the Flower Moon → The Irishman. Both are gut-punch late-period re-examinations of his career and life.
    “especially Irishmen and this film, which I think are just absolutely, like, gut punch”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:58:41 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  22. theme (genre echo): Killers of the Flower Moon → Giant. Its magnitude and oil, family and betrayal themes recall Giant, with Ford, Hawks, Stevens epic scale.
    “I did think of giant a few times while watching the movie, which is a movie about oil and families and betrayal.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:59:47 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  23. theme (genre echo): Killers of the Flower Moon → Shane. Sean notes Scorsese often talks about Shane when discussing Westerns.
    “Scorsese talks about Shane a lot.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:00:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  24. lineage (landscape and spirituality): Killers of the Flower Moon → Kundun. An American version of the desolate landscapes and haunting spirituality of Kundun, Silence, Last Temptation.
    “it is him doing an American version in some ways of what he did in Kundun, in silence, and last temptation of Christ”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:00:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  25. people (cinematographer's year): Rodrigo Prieto → Barbie. Prieto shot both Killers and Barbie, and maybe the forthcoming Taylor Swift film.
    “when are you guys going to do the Rodrigo Prieto episode between Barbie and this?”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:00:46 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  26. career (career): Rodrigo Prieto → Taylor Swift. Prieto has shot Taylor Swift videos and may be the DP on her forthcoming feature.
    “I believe he's also shot a few Taylor Swift videos and may or may not be the DP on the forthcoming Taylor Swift directed feature film.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:00:55 · Sean Fennessey or Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  27. unmapped (gothic abstraction): Killers of the Flower Moon → The Last Temptation of Christ. Ernest's poison-fever abstract sequence is the kind of artistic reach seen in Last Temptation or Silence.
    “really Gothic abstract sequence that is very uncommon that you only really see in kind of like last temptation of Christ or silence.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:02:00 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  28. unmapped (production scale): Killers of the Flower Moon → Heaven's Gate. The $250M-ish Jack Fisk-built world is defended against studio cost-cutting, with Heaven's Gate as a nod.
    “you don't need $250000000 Jack Fisk production design. You don't like it is like heaven's gate”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:02:39 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  29. craft (craft): Jack Fisk → Killers of the Flower Moon. Fisk researched the period billiard scorekeeping mechanism so the built set would be right, per a New York Times Magazine piece.
    “Jack did the research and found out this is how they would have kept score.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:03:31 · Sean Fennessey or Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  30. people (collaborator): Jack Fisk → Terrence Malick. Fisk production designed all of Malick's movies and was first-timer with Scorsese here.
    “Jack Fisk, who doesn't really work that much anymore, who's production designed, all of Terrence Malik's movies”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:03:34 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  31. people (people): Jack Fisk → Sissy Spacek. Fisk is introduced as the Malick production designer who is married to Spacek.
    “who's married to Sissy Spacek, who's one of the great, like, artists of the last 50 years of movies.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:03:34 · Sean Fennessey or Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  32. career (career context): Robert De Niro → The Irishman. De Niro's 21st-century highs include The Irishman, where he plays an interior role.
    “he's wonderful in the Irishman. And the Irishman, he has kind of an odd role. It's a very interior role”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:08:54 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  33. unmapped (narration trick): Killers of the Flower Moon → Goodfellas. Molly's voiceover recalls Karen taking over narration in Goodfellas.
    “Goodfellas does this. There's a moment when Karen takes over the narration.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:08:58 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  34. programming (viewing double feature): Killers of the Flower Moon → Silence. Amanda watched Silence the day before and went straight to Killers.
    “I watched silence yesterday and immediately went to sit down with you to watch Killers of the Flower Moon”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:18:30 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  35. unmapped (late-period arc): Killers of the Flower Moon → The Wolf of Wall Street. Wolf's brazenness is one stage of Scorsese's late evolution before Silence, Irishman, Killers.
    “the fun, the brazenness, the, the energy of Wolf of Wall Street, the kind of solemnity, the probing nature, the sort of like punishing aspect of silence.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:27:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  36. industry (awards precedent): Killers of the Flower Moon → The Irishman. Predicts an Irishman-style awards run: many nominations, few wins.
    “Okay, so you think it'll be an Irishman situation? I do.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:30:57 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  37. craft (score race): Killers of the Flower Moon → Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer's score is the main challenge to Robertson's score winning.
    “I think Oppenheimer presents a big challenge there.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:31:36 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  38. verdict (verdict): Thelma Schoonmaker → Killers of the Flower Moon. Predicts an editing nomination or win for Killers, with Schoonmaker not likely to cut many more films.
    “I think it could win editing. Um, I think, you know, Thelma Scoonmaker's not going to cut very many more movies.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:31:44 · Sean Fennessey or Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  39. contrast (contrast): Lessons in Chemistry → Killers of the Flower Moon. Greenwald's critique of anachronistic righteous modern politics in a period piece is contrasted with Killers refusing pop morality.
    “This movie does not do that.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:33:41 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  40. verdict (nihilism and Best Picture): Killers of the Flower Moon → No Country for Old Men. Last nihilistic Best Picture winner, offered as the comparison for how unlikely this one is to win.
    “when was the last time a movie that was this nihilistic one best picture? Is it is it no country for old men?”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:34:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  41. industry (awards rival): Killers of the Flower Moon → Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer is the likely Best Picture winner, with Killers second or third; also a 'great men' versus 'were there any great men' contrast.
    “I feel like Christopher Nolan believes that there were great men in history.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:36:37 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)

Fun items (26)

  1. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: They saw it twice, the second time together at 2:30 p.m. at a local AMC the day before recording; Sean calls it a masterpiece but jokes he needed seven hours to get there.
    “I don't know whether the joke is on the movie or me that I had to see it twice to get to that, um, point”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:02:29 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: At 3:26 on 3,800 screens it may be the longest widely released movie of the century, and a live check of Gettysburg (4:21) gets no theatrical box office listing.
    “I am live Googling Gettysburg, the movie, the 1993 film.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:07:39 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: Early rewrite lore: DiCaprio was to play FBI investigator Tom White in the procedural version, then pushed Scorsese to rewrite and took Ernest instead.
    “Leo was originally slated to play FBI investigator Tom White in the more procedural version of the film, and he went to Scorsese and said, I think there's something missing here”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:26:09 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: The Lily Gladstone and DiCaprio dining-room promo still that became a meme for years turns out to be one of the movie's two or three most important scenes, and plays differently in motion.
    “It is also like one of the 2 or 3 most important scenes in the movie.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:32:58 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: Lizzie's death scene, led by her ancestors into the next world, called one of the most astonishing 30 seconds.
    “that is like one of the most astonishing 30 seconds.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:43:47 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: Owl motif: Molly's mother sees an owl before dying; the second viewing, a bathroom break caused Amanda to miss the first owl on the windowsill.
    “I realized about 30 minutes later that I had missed that 1st image of the owl landing on the windowsill”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:43:59 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about Christopher Cote: Osage language consultant's widely quoted reaction: he wished it had been from Molly's perspective and says conspiring to murder a family is not love; the hosts treat it as a valid challenge.
    “when someone conspires to murder your entire family, that's not love.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:45:43 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about Lily Gladstone: She was offered Molly in the original script version; per Allison Willmore's New York profile she calls the attention of 'the masters' to Native stories a double-edged sword.
    “You want to have more natives writing native stories. You also want the masters to pay attention to what's going on.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:52:03 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  9. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: The coda is a 1930s FBI-sponsored radio show with sound-effects men, a live orchestra, and Jack White; Scorsese appears on screen reading Molly's obituary and adds that there was no mention of the murders.
    “Martin Scorsese shows up on the screen. Um, as Marty, basically. And um, and reads her obituary.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:56:02 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  10. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: The final image is an overhead shot of the Osage performing a ritual dance, a slow fade like a Hollywood epic.
    “the final image is not of him. It's of the Osage Nation shot overhead”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 0:57:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  11. fun, about Rodrigo Prieto: The cinematographer also shot Taylor Swift videos and may DP her forthcoming directed feature; hosts float having him on during Oscar season.
    “he's also shot a few Taylor Swift videos and may or may not be the DP on the forthcoming Taylor Swift directed feature film.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:00:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  12. fun, about Jack Fisk: Per an NYT Magazine piece, Grann saw Fisk had researched how billiard halls kept score; Sean wants him to build a billiard-room barbershop for the Ringer.
    “every studio executive listening, you need to stop spending your $250 million on garbage VFX and you need to spend it on Jack Fisk, just building shit.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:02:54 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  13. fun, about Martin Scorsese: Quip: his relationship to love is complicated, but his relationship to TikTok, and to his daughter, seems to be thriving.
    “His relationship to TikTok seems to be thriving.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:07:04 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  14. fun, about Robert De Niro: William Hale opens a ballet studio and poses with ballerinas, played for laughs; the film treats him as simply Satan.
    “He opens like a dance studio, the William Hale, like a ballet studio, and like is posing outside with all the ballerinas”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:09:55 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  15. fun, about Brendan Fraser and John Lithgow: They show up as lawyers in the last 30 minutes in what feels like a different movie, with Fraser cut to erupt thunderously.
    “They're doing an old timey lawyer thing. There's like this thundering explanatory.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:13:14 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  16. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: The Masonic Hall spanking scene, a Jack Fisk construction with a checkerboard floor, is called funny and strange.
    “I guess the Masonic Hall spanking?”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:14:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  17. fun, about The Simpsons: Amanda's masonry knowledge extends only to the Stonecutters episode, which she calls one of the greatest half-hours in TV history.
    “the Stonecutters episode of The Simpsons is one of the greatest half hours in television and history”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:15:09 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  18. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: Sean worries about watching it in installments on Apple TV+; the movie is meant to overwhelm and is not episodic.
    “It's not episodic. Yeah. It builds. Correct. And it is meant to completely pulverize you over 3.5 hours.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:17:51 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  19. fun, about Bobby Wagner: His first words on the episode are forced to be about length; he says it's a masterpiece, and the movie's whole point is the mundanity of evil, not Scorsese rock-and-roll.
    “I was waiting for the moment where it became Martin Scorsese rock and roll.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:20:30 · Bobby Wagner (0.80 sure it was them)
  20. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: Bobby's take: Scorsese's three organized-crime films meet disorganized crime where victims are so marginalized nobody bothers looking, 'can you find the wolves in this picture'.
    “It's really actually very easy to find the wolves in this picture.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:22:11 · Bobby Wagner (0.70 sure it was them)
  21. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: Molly's walk to the Washington train, with white townspeople staring through her and smoke clearing, called the scene Bobby sees when he closes his eyes.
    “I thought that that scene was so expertly crafted with the way that the smoke comes in and then it clears”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:23:15 · Bobby Wagner (0.70 sure it was them)
  22. fun, about Timothee Chalamet: In his interview with Scorsese he gushes about sitting with the greatest living filmmaker, and Scorsese doesn't blink.
    “Scorsese, like, doesn't blink. He doesn't like demur.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:29:14 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  23. fun, about Killers of the Flower Moon: Awards forecast: nominated for lots (Leo, Gladstone, Scorsese, production design, costume, adapted screenplay, maybe score and editing) but no real shot at Best Picture.
    “I just don't think it really has any chance to win best picture.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:32:00 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  24. fun, about Oppenheimer: Running bit: Amanda rages against Oppenheimer, with Sean needling her; Amanda says Nolan thinks great men existed and Scorsese isn't sure any did.
    “Martin Scorsese's like, I'm honestly not sure. in retrospect.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:36:43 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  25. fun, about Lily Gladstone: Worry that her Oscar clip reel lacks the usual screaming scene because her performance is quiet.
    “there's no one screaming at the top of their lungs, which is your favorite part of every single Academy Award.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:41:56 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  26. fun, about The Big Picture: Next week: a lawyer-movie draft with Griffin Newman and David Sims of Blank Check, described as long and tense.
    “we're doing it with Griffin Newman and David Sims of the Blank Check podcast”
    The Big Picture · ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Is Astounding · 1:44:10 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)

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