Bill Murray
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q29250: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by Wikidata joins them to What About Bob?, which An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens credits them on.
Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Rain Man (1988); Eyes Wide Shut (1999); Old School (2003); (Oscars telecast). Count them as actor (16 films) instead.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Animal House (1978): 2 lines
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lineage (genre lineage) · through Old School (2003), which they were tied to as persona comparison for Vaughn:
Animal House ⇒ Old School (the host's read).
Animal House started the habit of a winnable conflict set-piece that comedies copied for ten years, and Old School revived it.
“I think Animal House started it and then the next 10 years of comedy is ripped off”
The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:34:48 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (genre lineage) · through Old School (2003), which they were tied to as persona comparison for Vaughn:
Animal House ⇒ Old School (the host's read).
Old School is the latest in a frat-movie cycle that returns every 10 to 15 years, starting with Animal House.
“It is in keeping with the kind of every 10 to 15 years frat movie that we now get.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:05:23 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
Arthur Schnitzler: 2 lines
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lineage (adaptation) · through Eyes Wide Shut (1999), which they were tied to as what-if lead:
Arthur Schnitzler ⇒ Eyes Wide Shut (the host's read).
Kubrick turned Schnitzler's Dream Story into Eyes Wide Shut 30 plus years later (per the dossier).
“the Arthur Schnitzler book that he's going to turn into Eyes Wide Shut 30 plus years later.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 1:10:40 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (source novella) · through Eyes Wide Shut (1999), which they were tied to as what-if lead:
Arthur Schnitzler ⇒ Eyes Wide Shut (the host's read).
The speaker says the novel is very close to the film, so close that its plot beats are nearly one to one.
“And it is very similar to eyes wide shut.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free) · 0:33:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Back to School (1986): 1 line
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craft (shared structural flaw) · through Old School (2003), which they were tied to as persona comparison for Vaughn:
Back to School ⇒ Old School (the host's read).
The late competition-element plot is a flaw borrowed from Back to School and also seen in Stripes' war.
“when it starts to become too much like back to school, you know, where there's like a competition element to it.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:34:32 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Dream Story (Traumnovelle, the Schnitzler novella): 1 line
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lineage (adaptation) · through Eyes Wide Shut (1999), which they were tied to as what-if lead:
Dream Story (Traumnovelle, the Schnitzler novella) ⇒ Eyes Wide Shut (the host's read).
The speakers note the film's credit says inspired by, not adapted from, Schnitzler's novella.
“It's not adapted from Schnitzler.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free) · 0:37:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Frat House (1998): 1 line
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lineage (creator precursor) · through Old School (2003), which they were tied to as persona comparison for Vaughn:
Frat House ⇒ Old School (the host's read).
Phillips' frat documentary is a template for the movie.
“Frat House, which is this really interesting kind of template for the movie that we're going to talk about.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:09:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Ivan Reitman: 1 line
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lineage (filmmaker lineage) · through Old School (2003), which they were tied to as persona comparison for Vaughn:
Ivan Reitman ⇒ Old School (the host's read).
Phillips and Armstrong's movie owes a lot to Ivan Reitman's 80s comedies; it is their son.
“it owes a lot to the Ivan Reitman comedies of the 80s.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:05:45 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Kirk Douglas: 1 line
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lineage (origin of the project) · through Eyes Wide Shut (1999), which they were tied to as what-if lead:
Kirk Douglas ⇒ Eyes Wide Shut (the maker said so).
Kirk Douglas claims he handed Kubrick the novella during their Paths of Glory or Spartacus fights.
“Kirk Douglas claims he gave it to him during one of their like shared therapy sessions”
Blank Check — Patreon · Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free) · 0:33:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Modern Romance: 1 line
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lineage (influence) · through Eyes Wide Shut (1999), which they were tied to as what-if lead:
Modern Romance ⇒ Eyes Wide Shut (the maker said so: Kubrick's call to Albert Brooks, 'that famous story').
Kubrick reached out to Albert Brooks after Modern Romance because he wanted to bottle that dynamic of men and women.
“if you like reached out to Albert Brooks after seeing modern romance and said, like, Brit, and he was like, how did you do this?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free) · 0:38:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Road Trip (2000): 1 line
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people (same director groundwork) · through Old School (2003), which they were tied to as persona comparison for Vaughn:
Road Trip ⇒ Old School (the host's read).
Road Trip, Phillips' first narrative film, laid groundwork for the R-rated run; it is set at an upstate New York college like Old School.
“Todd Phillips's 1st movie. First narrative movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:09:00 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
Terry Southern: 1 line
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lineage (origin of an idea) · through Eyes Wide Shut (1999), which they were tied to as what-if lead:
Terry Southern ⇒ Eyes Wide Shut (the host's read).
A conversation Southern had with Kubrick about an erotic film that looks like a film is called a kernel of Eyes Wide Shut.
“he basically had a conversation at one point with Kubrick that is a kernel of eyes wide shut.”
Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:15:42 · Alex Ross Perry (0.60 sure it was them)
There's Something About Mary (1998): 1 line
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unmapped (groundwork) · through Old School (2003), which they were tied to as persona comparison for Vaughn:
There's Something About Mary ⇒ Old School (the host's read).
Farrelly brothers hits like Mary laid the ground for Road Trip and the R-rated wave.
“All of those kind of laid the ground for, uh, road trip.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:08:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (2011): 1 line
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lineage (title origin) · through Eyes Wide Shut (1999), which they were tied to as what-if lead:
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy ⇒ Eyes Wide Shut (the host's read).
The speaker offers that the phrase 'eyes wide shut' may come from the le Carre novel.
“It may have been inspired from Tinker Teal or Soldier Spy.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free) · 0:40:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Babygirl (2024): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Eyes Wide Shut (1999), which they were tied to as what-if lead:
Eyes Wide Shut ⇒ Babygirl (the host's read).
The stoned late-night bedroom lecture after the rave echoes Eyes Wide Shut.
“Nice callback to eyes wide shut and lecturing Tom Cruise in the bedroom while stoned out of their minds.”
The Big Picture · The Nicole Kidman Hall of Fame, and ‘Babygirl’ · 0:24:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Juneteenth (Atlanta episode) (2016): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Eyes Wide Shut (1999), which they were tied to as what-if lead:
Eyes Wide Shut ⇒ Juneteenth (Atlanta episode) (the host's read).
Donald Glover's character describes the party as a Spike-directed reboot of Eyes Wide Shut.
“this is like a spikely directed reboot of eyes wide shut”
The Big Picture · Janicza Bravo and Brett Gelman Channel Rejection and Anxiety to Make ‘Lemon’ | The Big Picture (Ep. 22) · 0:04:44 · Alison Herman (0.85 sure it was them)
Life of the Party (2018): 1 line
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unmapped (borrowed from) · through Old School (2003), which they were tied to as persona comparison for Vaughn:
Old School ⇒ Life of the Party (the host's read).
Melissa McCarthy's Life of the Party is basically a solo Old School, down to the closing pop-star performance.
“That is basically like a solo old school about how she goes back to school.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:28:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
Phantom Thread (2017): 1 line
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unmapped (lesson learned) · through Eyes Wide Shut (1999), which they were tied to as what-if lead:
Eyes Wide Shut ⇒ Phantom Thread (the host's read).
The speaker feels PTA took lessons from visiting the Kubrick set about small crews.
“Like, it feels like PTA sort of learned some lessons from being on the set that took years to see Ben.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free) · 1:06:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Acting (23) everyone in acting
- actor, Bob, What About Bob? (Blank Check with Griffin & David, An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens)
- actor, Ghostbusters (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Starman with Katey Rich)
- actor, Scrooged (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Starman with Katey Rich)
- actor, Groundhog Day (Blank Check with Griffin & David, As Good as It Gets with Chris Gethard)
- actor, Groundhog Day (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Flesh+Blood)
- actor, The Razor's Edge (The Rewatchables, ‘The Truman Show’ With Bill Simmons, Glen Powell, and Chris Ryan)
- actor, Stripes (The Rewatchables, ‘Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me’ With Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey)
- actor (Bob Wiley), What About Bob? (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Ghostbusters (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Groundhog Day (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Quick Change (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Stripes (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Caddyshack (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Meatballs (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Tootsie (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Kingpin (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Rushmore (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Lost in Translation (The Rewatchables, ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor (Raleigh St. Clair), The Royal Tenenbaums (The Rewatchables, ‘The Royal Tenenbaums’ With Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald)
- actor, The Royal Tenenbaums (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 12 - 'The Royal Tenenbaums’)
- actor, Ghostbusters (The Big Picture, ‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife,’ ‘Tick, Tick ... Boom!,' and Our Top Five Feel-Good Movies)
- actor, Ghostbusters: Afterlife (The Big Picture, ‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife,’ ‘Tick, Tick ... Boom!,' and Our Top Five Feel-Good Movies)
- star, Ghostbusters II (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien 3)
Other (4) everyone in other
- actor (almost cast), Rain Man (Blank Check with Griffin & David, The Color of Money with Chris Ryan)
- persona comparison for Vaughn, Old School (The Rewatchables, ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- what-if lead, Eyes Wide Shut (Blank Check — Patreon, Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free))
- Oscars tribute, (Oscars telecast) (Blank Check — Patreon, 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT)
What was said about them, by kind
career (5)
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career (career):
Mike Myers → Bill Murray.
Myers may have fancied himself a Bill Murray who could do both quick-change and Stripes.
“he probably fancied himself a little bit more of a Bill Murray.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me’ With Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:16:10 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career phase):
Bill Murray → Rushmore.
Sean splits Murray's career into pre-Rushmore (1980-1995, star vehicles) and post-Rushmore (character actor).
“So it's like pre-Rushmore post-Rushmore.”
The Rewatchables · ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan · 0:03:51 · Sean Fennessey (0.90 sure it was them) -
career (career phase):
Bill Murray → Groundhog Day.
Bill's three-phase Murray: What About Bob?, Groundhog Day and Quick Change form the adult phase after Ghostbusters.
“he has, what about Bob and Groundhog Day pretty close together? And quick change”
The Rewatchables · ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan · 0:04:59 · Bill Simmons (0.90 sure it was them) -
career (career parallel):
Chevy Chase → Bill Murray.
Chase and Murray were the 70s guys who navigated into the Letterman sarcasm era; Chase was neck and neck with Murray in the mid 80s.
“I think him and Bo Murray specifically were able to navigate what came next with the Letterman era, the sarcasm era, basically.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Fletch’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:20:47 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Bill Murray → Ghostbusters.
Murray refused a third Ghostbusters for 25 years and then came back for Afterlife.
“Bill Murray for 25 years has declined to participate in a 3rd Ghostbusters film.”
The Big Picture · ‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife,’ ‘Tick, Tick ... Boom!,' and Our Top Five Feel-Good Movies · 0:16:00 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
contrast (1)
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contrast (contrast):
Eddie Murphy → Bill Murray.
Murray is calculating about when to pull the rug out from scene partners; Eddie trusts his comedy and does not need to win every moment.
“You can see Bill Murray calculating sometimes when he's gonna pull the rug out from under the people in the scene with him.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:04:31 · Wesley Morris (0.80 sure it was them)
craft (1)
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craft (craft):
Danny McBride → Bill Murray.
McBride plays one blowhard type across roles like Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, Ferrell.
“he's also doing the thing that Bill Murray and Chevy Chase and Farrell do, which is like essentially playing the same guy.”
The Rewatchables · ‘This Is the End’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck · 0:26:59 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
people (3)
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people (feud):
Bill Murray → Richard Dreyfuss.
Murray's reported insult to Dreyfuss during What About Bob?.
“you are not liked, you are tolerate it.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens · 1:35:15 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (feud):
Bill Murray → Chevy Chase.
Compared to Murray calling Chase medium talent.
“Wow. Which is up there with Bill Murray saying to Chevy Chase, calling him medium talent.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens · 1:35:26 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Bill Murray → Harold Ramis.
Murray and Ramis did not speak for years after disagreeing over Groundhog Day's tone.
“Murray was like, I want Groundhog Day to be more dramatic.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Flesh+Blood · 0:38:15 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
theme (1)
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theme (persona comparison):
Vince Vaughn → Bill Murray.
In his comedies Vaughn is basically playing himself as a smart-ass, like Bill Murray.
“he's basically doing the Bill Murray thing.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Old School’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:12:41 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
unmapped (2)
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unmapped (recurring bit):
Bill Murray → Stripes.
Murray's flirt-by-annoying persona goes back to SNL's Todd and Lisa Loopner sketches with Gilda Radner and Stripes, then becomes the whole premise of What About Bob?
“He did it in stripes when he was trying, you know, his way of trying to like flirt with people would be to annoy them.”
The Rewatchables · ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan · 0:10:13 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them) -
unmapped (praise):
Peter MacNicol → Bill Murray.
Murray reportedly says MacNicol was the one good thing in Ghostbusters II.
“Except for Peter McNichol.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 1:19:37 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
verdict (1)
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verdict (underrated performance):
Tootsie → Bill Murray.
Murray is amazing in Tootsie though nobody thinks of it as a Murray film.
“he's actually amazing in Tootsie”
The Rewatchables · ‘What About Bob?’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan · 0:06:35 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
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fun, about
Bill Murray:
Murray's reported insult to Dreyfuss on the set of What About Bob?.
“you are not liked, you are tolerate it.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens · 1:35:15 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)