The War of the Roses (1989)

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The Rewatchables' awards

From ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins (2024-04-09):

Double feature

  1. pick Body Heat: Pairs it with Fatal Attraction as a pair of erotic thrillers to watch before this one, as a triple feature.
    “I do think we should be pairing this with both body heat and fatal attraction.”
    unknown · 1:32:05
  2. pick Fatal Attraction: Second half of the erotic-thriller bill that leads into this one, as a triple feature.
    “I do think we should be pairing this with both body heat and fatal attraction.”
    unknown · 1:32:05
  3. pick Romancing the Stone: Offered as the lighter, adventure-comedy end of the Douglas and Turner spectrum.
    “I was going to say romance in the stone just to get the other end of the spectrum.”
    unknown · 1:32:18
  4. pick Mr. & Mrs. Smith: A feel-better follow-up after Rock Bottom Month, since the couple also tear up the house but it works out.
    “Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Because they tear up the house in the same way, but then it kind of works out, at least in the movie.”
    unknown · 1:32:41

Most rewatchable scene

  1. floated The young-couple Nantucket sequence (the fake Nantucket, the wigs, the dash to the ferry).
    “So I don't I don't know if this is a rewatchable scene, but it probably is just that whole part because it's so ridiculous.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:21:41
  2. floated The first big dinner scene and the bedroom argument that follows it.
    “I have the 1st big dinner scene. Leaning into the bedroom argument.”
    unknown · 0:22:21
  3. floated Barbara finds her dream house and walks in on a funeral.
    “Although I was going to say, for rewatchables, I like when she finds the house and walks in and it's a funeral and she's like, 0 my God, it's my destiny life.”
    unknown · 0:22:26
  4. floated Oliver's bedroom argument with Barbara: 'when I watch you eat... I just want to smash your face in.'
    “Because... when I watch you eat. When I see you asleep, when I look at you lately, I just want to smash your face in.”
    unknown · 0:28:39
  5. floated Oliver runs over the cat.
    “My personal favorite scene in the movie when Oliver runs over the cat is great.”
    unknown · 0:31:16
  6. floated The Christmas tree fire, with Oliver reading the fire extinguisher instructions.
    “It's when the Christmas tree is lit on fire and he brings the fire extinguisher and then he has to read the instructions.”
    unknown · 0:34:37
  7. pick Oliver reading his letter to Barbara, then Barbara plugging her nostrils and saying she wants the divorce (one sequence).
    “My pick is, if it is eligible as a, it's technically 2 scenes, but one sequence, it's Oliver reading his letter into Barbara plugging the nostrils, saying she wants the course.”
    Mallory Rubin · 0:34:55
  8. pick The client dinner party (Oliver pees on the fish) into the stuff-throwing fight.
    “I think mine has to be the dinner party into the Stafford shirt.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:35:08

Ebert Review · Bill reads Roger Ebert's review of the film.

  1. pick The War of the Roses: Three stars; Ebert calls it a black, angry, bitter, unrelenting comedy.
    “The War of the Roses is a black, angry, bitter, unrelenting comedy.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:19:08

Picking Nits · Nitpicks of a film they love.

  1. pick The young-couple scenes are not remotely Nantucket
    “That's just absolutely not Lantucket.”
    unknown · 0:19:56
  2. pick Michael Douglas, in his 40s, playing a student next to an undergraduate gymnast
    “Well, not that Michael Douglas is 45 playing...”
    unknown · 0:20:02
  3. pick The dog insert shot during the pate scene, clearly added later: Says the DeVito scenes could go to make room for Barbara taking a revenge date.
    “I already said about the showing the dog during the pot taste scene, which clearly they put in later.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:19:57
  4. pick Gavin says he kept the Roses out of the papers
    “I kept what happened out of the papers. You mean when 2 people were found dead in their mansion?”
    unknown · 1:21:19
  5. pick Whether the chandelier fall would have killed them
    “I think the question of would the fall have killed them. is a valid one.”
    unknown · 1:21:37
  6. pick No neighbor ever calls the authorities
    “None of their neighbors at any point called the authorities.”
    unknown · 1:23:09
  7. pick The film needs one more scene of the couple happy together
    “I wanted one more scene when they were happy together.”
    unknown · 1:24:49
  8. pick Where did she get a monster truck in 1989
    “Where the fuck, who had that monster truck in 1989?”
    unknown · 1:25:37
  9. pick Oliver's dog is the wrong breed; he should have a white lab or a poodle
    “I don't like the dog choice for Oliver.”
    unknown · 1:26:23

What Aged the Best · What about the film has held up best (transcribed as 'what stage the best').

  1. pick Douglas and Turner together as comedic geniuses
    “Um, you know, we already covered this, but I do think the ultimate pick here has to just be Douglas and Turner not just as sex symbols, but as comedic geniuses.”
    unknown · 0:36:04
  2. pick The stage of marriage where everything the other person does annoys you
    “We already talked about the depiction of the stage of marriage where every single thing a person does annoys you to your, like, the fiber of your being.”
    unknown · 0:38:44
  3. pick The framing device of Gavin's legal practice: She wavered between aged-best and aged-worst; later says she landed on best because it gives the movie a warped-fable quality. Attribution inferred from the later 'where I landed' line.
    “The framing device. The fact that we are accessing this story, this great saga of the roses, through Gavin's legal practice.”
    Mallory Rubin · 0:39:05
  4. pick liver pate: The recurring liver pate, including the line about selling liver to their friends. Attribution inferred from continuity.
    “It's the very specific presence of river pate in... dozens of scenes in this movie.”
    Mallory Rubin · 0:39:34
  5. pick Sitting at opposite ends of the long dinner table to show you hate each other: Also lists leaving the appliances on, locking someone in the sauna, and sawing the heels off shoes.
    “Sitting at opposite ends of the dinner table to prove you hate each other, just all time.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:40:38
  6. pick The former gymnast as a character trait used as a weapon
    “Um, the former gymnast as a character trait when it's used as a weapon in movies.”
    unknown · 0:42:03
  7. pick Gavin's quotes about love and divorce
    “There are 2 dilemmas that rattle the human skull.”
    unknown · 0:42:56
  8. pick The film's huge popularity in Germany (Der Rosenkrieg)
    “This movie is like incredibly popular in Germany.”
    unknown · 0:43:27
  9. pick The insult back-and-forth: stinking bitch, dumb bastard, slut, scum, filth
    “I like stinking bitch, dumb bastard, slut, scum, filth, like that whole like back and forth that.”
    unknown · 0:44:30

Benny Hana Award for Scene-Stealing Location · The location that steals the movie (name mangled in the transcript).

  1. winner The Rose house: Almost like the set of a play; Gavin's law library gets a mention.
    “But it's probably the house, right?”
    unknown · 0:45:07

Big Kahuna Burger · Best use of food and drink; called a three-way race.

  1. pick The doggy tartare (pate)
    “The big Goonaburger, where best use of food and drink, obviously, the doggy tartars.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:45:32
  2. pick The pissed-on fish
    “Oh, I was going to say the pissfish.”
    unknown · 0:45:36
  3. pick Benny's fake pate, plus the fig and cognac sauce talk at the first dinner party
    “The, it pains me to say, but the, the, the Benny fake alpate.”
    unknown · 0:45:47

Mallory Rubin Award (did it need a better sex scene) · Did this movie need a better sex scene? (name mangled as 'Malariuben').

  1. pick The War of the Roses: Says no for the first time ever: the movie is perfectly calibrated and the sex is present even when it is not on screen.
    “This might be the 1st time I answered this question has ever been no.”
    Mallory Rubin · 0:46:15
  2. pick The War of the Roses: Says yes, a little more, given she is a gymnast.
    “What I'm gonna say is if she's gonna be a gymnast, yeah, we need a little more.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:46:26

Butch's Girlfriend Award · The weak link of the film.

  1. winner The Danny DeVito framing-device scenes: Argues the movie is better without him on screen; a second voice agrees.
    “The Danny DeVito scenes, even though there's good wisdom in them, I think you could make this same movie, and he's not in it talking to that guy at all, and we probably have 2 more scenes with our heroes, the roses, or villains, whatever you want to call them.”
    unknown · 0:48:09
  2. pick The pacing, with the tonally distinct halves and the slow opening credits
    “It's ultimately, I think, the same thing, but for different, the pacing.”
    unknown · 0:50:21
  3. pick The terrazzo floor in the foyer: Calls the house very late 80s and gaudy.
    “Yeah, I did the terrazzo floor in the foyer.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:51:21
  4. nominee The mute client Gavin tells the story to
    “I think the, I don't know why the client has to be just a corpse, the mu client.”
    unknown · 0:56:12

Overacting Award · The Ruffalo Award; the hosts give it here to the DeVito framing scenes (idea of the award not stated in this episode).

  1. winner Danny DeVito as Gavin: Two voices say they had the framing scenes here; Bill later says 'which we already gave to DeVito'.
    “I have them as the ruffalo.”
    unknown · 0:49:38

Can You Dig It Award · Most memorable quote.

  1. winner Never apologize for being multi-orgasmic
    “Probably never apologized for being multi-orgasmic, pretty hilarious.”
    unknown · 0:56:45

Hottest Take Award · The hottest take; the segment is named after Chris Ryan's Luke Wilson as Harrison Ford take from another episode.

  1. pick Gavin engineered the whole divorce (conspiracy theory): Argues Gavin stands to gain and is the one who tells Oliver to move back in. Attribution inferred from the handoff to Amanda right after.
    “All right, I'm going to throw out a conspiracy theory as a hottest take, and I want to see if you're receptive.”
    Mallory Rubin · 0:57:15
  2. pick The Rose house is not even a top 20 movie house: Reads out a list of 17 movie houses she likes better; the others add more until it passes 20.
    “This is not even a top 20 movie house.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 0:59:09
  3. pick The dog should have died in the pate: Says test audiences were horrified, so the dog's fate was cut; he wants the dark version.
    “The dog should have died in the pate.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:03:16

Casting What-Ifs · Almost-castings and recasts.

  1. pick Cher as Barbara Rose: The only near-casting he could find in research.
    “I couldn't really find any other than that Cher was in the mix for Barbara Rosa for a little while.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:05:20
  2. pick Jonathan Demme: Pictured as a black comedy with characters talking into the camera.
    “What's this movie of Jonathan Demi's directing it?”
    unknown · 1:07:23
  3. pick Set it in Seattle rather than Washington, DC: Community-property law comes up as a wrinkle.
    “just should have been Washington and the city just should have been Seattle and we could have gotten some Seattle.”
    unknown · 1:07:50
  4. pick Westchester outside New York
    “So I thought I thought Westchester outside of New York.”
    unknown · 1:08:18
  5. pick Tom Hanks: Argues Hanks is lovable and could do the physical comedy; others say he cannot turn off the likability.
    “Oh, I think this is clearly Hanks.”
    unknown · 1:15:54
  6. pick Tom Cruise: Says Hanks is too lovable and soft.
    “I think it's Cruz.”
    Craig Horlbeck · 1:17:15
  7. pick Tom Cruise: Cites Collateral crossed with the first 30 minutes of Jerry Maguire. Attribution inferred from Bill saying 'Amanda's right'.
    “No, just like, I'm thinking like collateral cruise crossed with Jerry Maguire cruise.”
    Amanda Dobbins · 1:17:39
  8. pick Tom Cruise: Started on Hanks, switched after rewatching Jerry Maguire.
    “I think Amanda's right.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:19:07
  9. winner Tom Cruise: The hosts tally it 3 to 1 for Cruise.
    “I think it is 31 cruise.”
    unknown · 1:19:16

Joey Pants Award · Best that guy.

  1. winner J.D. Spradlin: Cited for his long run of that-guy parts, including the senator in Godfather II.
    “But the real that guy is J.D. Spradlin, who I think is J.D. Spradlin, but he's the senator and godfather too.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:06:00
  2. nominee The guy from Total Recall who advises skipping the fish course at the dinner
    “One is the guy from Total Recall.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:05:42

Dion Waiters Award · Small role, big impact.

  1. winner The man in the hospital whose wife stabbed him
    “Yeah. I really like the guy in that when Oliver's in the hospital and there's the guy there that gets stabbed.”
    unknown · 1:06:45
  2. nominee Susan, the housekeeper
    “I liked Susan.”
    unknown · 1:07:01

Who Should Do the Director's Commentary · Tony Romo or Chris Collinsworth as the director's commentary.

  1. winner Tony Romo: Jokes about the dog being in the pate and the hip swivel while pissing on the fish.
    “I think it's Romo.”
    unknown · 1:09:46

Apex Mountain · Where this movie sits on the career or genre mountain.

  1. pick Michael Douglas as Oliver Rose: Not his apex: Fatal Attraction and Wall Street came earlier.
    “Michael Douglas, I'm going to say no because he had Fatal Traction on Wall Street in the city, which is...”
    Bill Simmons · 1:12:33
  2. pick Kathleen Turner as Barbara Rose: Not her apex; this is the tail end, with the peak around the mid 80s.
    “Turner, probably not.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:12:41
  3. pick Danny DeVito as Gavin: Notes Twins came out around the same time.
    “So I think we are like around the DeVito apex.”
    unknown · 1:14:07
  4. pick Kramer vs. Kramer: Says it, not this, is the apex of divorce movies.
    “It's Kramer versus Kramer.”
    unknown · 1:14:38
  5. pick The War of the Roses: Asks whether this or The Money Pit is the best movie about a house that ruins a marriage.
    “Is this the best we got this house that have ruined our lives movie or would you go the money?”
    unknown · 1:15:01
  6. pick The piss on the fish: The apex of pissing on a fish.
    “Uh, the piss fish? Without question.”
    unknown · 1:15:24

Race Horse Name · What the funniest race horse name from the movie would be.

  1. winner The Bald Avenger
    “Race horse name, the Bald Avenger, would be the funniest fucking race horse.”
    unknown · 1:19:47

Is this movie better with… · Would the movie be better with a given character actor (Sam Jackson, Philip Baker Hall and others offered).

  1. pick Samuel L. Jackson: Says the movie is one of the whitest ever made and could use him as the person Gavin talks to.
    “I gotta say, this movie actually needs Sam Jackson.”
    unknown · 1:28:53
  2. pick Philip Baker Hall: Thinks he could pull off the framing device.
    “I was going to say, I think Philip Baker Hall could pull off the framing device.”
    unknown · 1:29:12
  3. pick Wayne, the dirty cop (name garbled in the transcript): Imagines him in the hospital scene or on the payroll of Oliver's law firm.
    “I think maybe Wayne is actually somebody like who's in the hospital scene and then somehow inserts himself into Oliver's life from there or perhaps Wayne is involved in a case at some point.”
    unknown · 1:29:47

Just One Oscar · Who should get the one Oscar for this movie.

  1. winner Kathleen Turner as Barbara Rose: Douglas is great but already has an Oscar; the edge goes to Turner, who the hosts say could have squeezed into the 1989 best actress race.
    “I think she's awesome in this movie. But Douglas is great.”
    unknown · 1:30:10

Unanswerable Questions · Questions the movie leaves open.

  1. pick What happens to the kids, the will, and the house after the deaths: Also floats the house being sold at a discount again as a haunted-house sequel.
    “The kids, like, what's that next week, like, for the kids?”
    unknown · 1:31:13
  2. pick Is the silent client actually mute
    “Like, is he actually mute?”
    unknown · 0:56:28

What Aged the Worst · What about the film has aged worst (transcribed as 'what stage the worst').

  1. pick Young Michael Douglas's wig
    “I mean, young Michael Douglas's wig.”
    unknown · 0:52:08
  2. pick A pre-cell-phone, pre-internet plot
    “Um, this is one of the rare movies I watched in thinking about how different it would have been if they had had cell phones.”
    unknown · 0:52:43
  3. pick The cruelty to the animals (cat and dog)
    “I just would like to talk for another moment if we if we can about the animals in the crosshairs”
    unknown · 0:53:21
  4. pick The split couple spending Christmas together for the kids
    “Spending Christmas together as a family after you've split.”
    unknown · 0:54:31
  5. pick Gavin's foot job at the dinner table
    “the foot job is just kind of lame.”
    unknown · 0:55:28

Most Cinematic Shot · Best shot (Bill names the award in garbled words).

  1. winner The chandelier coming down
    “which I would give the Great Shack order award for most cinematic shot as the things coming down.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:33:39
  2. nominee The pan up from Oliver's Baccarat crystals to the chandelier
    “the harbinger that leads to that point when Oliver is like using his Baccarat crystals for his little personal symphony and we pan up past his face to the chandelier.”
    unknown · 0:33:56

Memorabilia · What prop or piece of the movie they would own.

  1. pick Michael Douglas's young-Oliver wig
    “Clearly, I would want the wig because I would just put this on every time I did a podcast with either of you.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:32:58
  2. pick The chandelier: Weighs it against a Staffordshire figurine for practicality.
    “I'm going to go with the chandelier then.”
    unknown · 1:33:42
  3. pick The PA system from Kathleen Turner's car
    “I would like the car PA system on Kathleen Turner's car so that I can just imagine what I could do.”
    unknown · 1:33:45

Best Life Lesson · The best life lesson from the movie.

  1. pick Gavin's father: a man is his house, his car, his wife and his shoes
    “My father used to say there are 4 things that told you what a man is.”
    unknown · 1:34:05
  2. pick When a man who makes $450 an hour tells you something for free, listen: One host jokes the real lesson is not to get divorced.
    “Yeah, I think the real lesson is when a man who makes $450 an hour wants to tell you something for free, you should listen.”
    unknown · 1:34:22

Who Won the Movie · Who won the movie.

  1. winner Douglas and Turner together (the combo): Says the combo works as an exclamation point on their three films; at gunpoint, Turner.
    “I would go combo just because I think it's an important exclamation point for the Douglas Turner, the 3 movies and the fact that this doesn't happen anymore, but at gunpoint, I would pick Turner.”
    unknown · 1:34:53
  2. winner Kathleen Turner as Barbara Rose: Says she has the more fun part while Douglas is befuddled for an hour.
    “Because I think she has a more fun part.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:35:04

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Game of Thrones: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The War of the Roses ⇒ Game of Thrones (the host's read). The actual historical Wars of the Roses was a big inspiration for Game of Thrones.
    “Big inspiration for Game of Thrones.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:56:37 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Problem Child: 1 line the maker said so ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The War of the Roses ⇒ Problem Child (the maker said so: the writer's own account on the show). They had pitched Problem Child to be a grown-up dark comedy like The War of the Roses.
    “talked about the War of the Roses”
    The Big Picture · The 10 Best Horror Movies of the Decade | The Big Picture · 1:14:24 · unknown (Alexander or Karaszewski) (0.40 sure it was them)

Connected to

Kramer vs. Kramer: 2 lines theme ×1 verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): The War of the Roses → Kramer vs. Kramer. Kramer vs. Kramer and Roses must be on every list of four great divorce movies.
    “What's interesting is I think Kramer versus Kramer War of the Rose have to be on it no matter whose list it is.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:03:47 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Marriage Story: 2 lines contrast ×2

  1. contrast (contrast): Marriage Story → The War of the Roses. Marriage Story is a divorce film that makes you weep; Roses is the kind that sets up rage and bitterness.
    “They're the divorce films that give the emotional response.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:03:35 · Mallory Rubin (0.45 sure it was them)

Romancing the Stone: 2 lines career ×1 programming ×1

  1. career (career): The War of the Roses → Romancing the Stone. People loved Romancing the Stone, so a third pairing made Roses look like another fun time before the dark last hour.
    “I think part of the shock value of this movie was that people loved Romance in the Stone.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:05:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Benedict Cumberbatch: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): The War of the Roses → Benedict Cumberbatch. The speakers doubt Coleman and Cumberbatch can sell the initial reckless attraction the story needs.
    “They need to be hot and Coleman and Cumberbatch are not hot enough.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:13:08 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Body Heat: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): The War of the Roses → Body Heat. Triple-feature pitch: Roses with Body Heat and Fatal Attraction.
    “I do think we should be pairing this with both body heat and fatal attraction.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:32:05 · Mallory Rubin (0.45 sure it was them)

Cher: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Cher → The War of the Roses. Cher was in the mix for Barbara Rose for a while.
    “Cher was in the mix for Barbara Rosa for a little while.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:05:20 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Fatal Attraction: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): The War of the Roses → Fatal Attraction. Pair an erotic-thriller double with Roses for a full day of 80s marriage trouble.
    “I think that should be like we get an erotic thriller with both of them and then we watch this”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:32:10 · Mallory Rubin (0.45 sure it was them)

Father of the Bride: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The War of the Roses → Father of the Bride. Amanda ranks the Roses house outside her top 20 movie houses, beginning her list with the Father of the Bride house.
    “This is not even a top 20 movie house.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:59:09 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)

Game of Thrones: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The War of the Roses → Game of Thrones. The actual historical Wars of the Roses was a big inspiration for Game of Thrones.
    “Big inspiration for Game of Thrones.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:56:37 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Gone Girl: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The War of the Roses → Gone Girl. Roses is described as a prequel to Gone Girl; it could have pivoted to Turner killing Douglas and going on the run.
    “This movie's kind of a prequel to Gone Girl.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:37:30 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50 sure it was them)

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The War of the Roses → Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. The ridiculous young-Douglas casting justifies de-aging in movies like Dial of Destiny.
    “this is why it is okay to DH Harrison Ford in Dial of Destiny”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:20:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Irreconcilable Differences: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Irreconcilable Differences → The War of the Roses. Irreconcilable Differences is in one speaker's divorce top four, and it is currently unfindable.
    “for me, it's irreconcilable differences would be in my top four, which you can't find.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:04:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Jonathan Demme: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Jonathan Demme → The War of the Roses. Demme as a recasting director, with Rachel Getting Married vibes and a black-comedy tone.
    “What's this movie of Jonathan Demi's directing it?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:07:23 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Michael Douglas: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Michael Douglas → The War of the Roses. Douglas's producer background gave him a spot-on commercial taste that produced rewatchable classics.
    “Michael Douglas, because he thought, like, a producer and had this whole producer background”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:17:57 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Mr. & Mrs. Smith: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): The War of the Roses → Mr. & Mrs. Smith. Mr. & Mrs. Smith is the lighter double feature since the couple also wreck the house but it works out.
    “Because they tear up the house in the same way, but then it kind of works out, at least in the movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:32:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Mrs. Doubtfire: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Mrs. Doubtfire → The War of the Roses. Mrs. Doubtfire is the divorce movie from the child's perspective, even though it reads as a Robin Williams comedy.
    “I think mine is Mrs. Doubtfire for the child perspective.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:04:38 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Olivia Colman: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The War of the Roses → Olivia Colman. A remake of Roses was announced this week with Olivia Colman and Benedict Cumberbatch.
    “Remaking War of the Roses with Benedict Cumberbatch.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:12:16 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Phil Collins: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Phil Collins → The War of the Roses. Phil Collins wrote a song for Roses that was supposed to be in it but took too long and the offer was withdrawn.
    “Phil Collins wrote a song called Something Happened on the Way to Heaven that was supposed to be in this.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:10:38 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

Philip Baker Hall: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Philip Baker Hall → The War of the Roses. Philip Baker Hall could have pulled off the framing-device lawyer.
    “I think Philip Baker Hall could pull off the framing device.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:29:12 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Poor Things: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The War of the Roses → Poor Things. The red-sky backdrop outside DeVito's office looks like a fairy-tale set, like Poor Things.
    “looks like you're like in poor things for like a second.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:36:19 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50 sure it was them)

Problem Child: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Problem Child → The War of the Roses. They had pitched Problem Child to be a grown-up dark comedy like The War of the Roses.
    “talked about the War of the Roses”
    The Big Picture · The 10 Best Horror Movies of the Decade | The Big Picture · 1:14:24 · unknown (Alexander or Karaszewski) (0.40 sure it was them)

Roger Ebert: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Roger Ebert → The War of the Roses. The Ebert review (3 stars) called Roses a black, angry, bitter, unrelenting comedy.
    “The War of the Roses is a black, angry, bitter, unrelenting comedy.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:19:08 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

Samuel L. Jackson: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Samuel L. Jackson → The War of the Roses. Sam Jackson as the lawyer's silent client, since Roses is one of the whitest movies ever.
    “I gotta say, this movie actually needs Sam Jackson.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:28:53 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Sleeping with the Enemy: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The War of the Roses → Sleeping with the Enemy. Other movie houses the speakers suggest as better than the Roses mansion.
    “What about the sleeping with the enemy house that she ended up staying in?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:08:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Jewel of the Nile: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): The War of the Roses → The Jewel of the Nile. Audiences liked The Jewel of the Nile less but still liked the pair together.
    “They didn't like Jewel the Nile as much, but they just like them together.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:06:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Money Pit: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The War of the Roses → The Money Pit. The Money Pit is offered as the alternative house-that-ruins-a-marriage movie.
    “Is this the best we got this house that have ruined our lives movie or would you go the money?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:15:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Natural: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The War of the Roses → The Natural. Michael Douglas as a student is a de-aging stretch, but The Natural with Redford as a teen is worse.
    “There's a worse one.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:20:54 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Shining: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The War of the Roses → The Shining. The house in Roses becomes a domestic horror, with the Shining hotel as its sequel image.
    “The shining house, just for the shining hotel.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:31:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Tom Hanks: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Tom Hanks → The War of the Roses. Hanks versus Cruise as the lead; Hanks cannot turn off lovability, but one speaker thinks he is right.
    “I actually think this is the kind of movie Tom Hanks needed to make and tried to make a couple times in the 80s.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:16:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Total Recall: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): The War of the Roses → Total Recall. One 'that guy' in the dinner scene is the sweating man from Total Recall.
    “One is the guy from Total Recall.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:05:42 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (3)

  1. career (career): The War of the Roses → Romancing the Stone. People loved Romancing the Stone, so a third pairing made Roses look like another fun time before the dark last hour.
    “I think part of the shock value of this movie was that people loved Romance in the Stone.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:05:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): The War of the Roses → The Jewel of the Nile. Audiences liked The Jewel of the Nile less but still liked the pair together.
    “They didn't like Jewel the Nile as much, but they just like them together.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:06:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. career (career): The War of the Roses → Total Recall. One 'that guy' in the dinner scene is the sweating man from Total Recall.
    “One is the guy from Total Recall.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:05:42 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

contrast (6)

  1. contrast (contrast): Marriage Story → The War of the Roses. Marriage Story is a divorce film that makes you weep; Roses is the kind that sets up rage and bitterness.
    “They're the divorce films that give the emotional response.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:03:35 · Mallory Rubin (0.45 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): The War of the Roses → Marriage Story. The speakers split divorce films into emotional-response ones and ones built on rage and bitterness.
    “And then the films that just set up rage and bitterness.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:03:38 · Mallory Rubin (0.45 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (contrast): The War of the Roses → The War of the Roses. Roses is a beloved classic that is harder to make in 2024 than in 1989.
    “Because this is a beloved, like, classic movie that is harder to make in 2024 than it was in 89.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:13:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. contrast (contrast): The War of the Roses → The Natural. Michael Douglas as a student is a de-aging stretch, but The Natural with Redford as a teen is worse.
    “There's a worse one.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:20:54 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. contrast (contrast): The War of the Roses → The War of the Roses. Unlike other divorce movies, nobody in Roses is mourning the past; Barbara feels pure resentment.
    “in all of the divorce movies, it's like, someone is already mourning what they had”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:29:42 · Mallory Rubin (0.45 sure it was them)
  6. contrast (contrast): The War of the Roses → Father of the Bride. Amanda ranks the Roses house outside her top 20 movie houses, beginning her list with the Father of the Bride house.
    “This is not even a top 20 movie house.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:59:09 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)

craft (1)

  1. craft (craft): The War of the Roses → Poor Things. The red-sky backdrop outside DeVito's office looks like a fairy-tale set, like Poor Things.
    “looks like you're like in poor things for like a second.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:36:19 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50 sure it was them)

industry (3)

  1. industry (industry): The War of the Roses → Olivia Colman. A remake of Roses was announced this week with Olivia Colman and Benedict Cumberbatch.
    “Remaking War of the Roses with Benedict Cumberbatch.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:12:16 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. industry (industry): Michael Douglas → The War of the Roses. Douglas's producer background gave him a spot-on commercial taste that produced rewatchable classics.
    “Michael Douglas, because he thought, like, a producer and had this whole producer background”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:17:57 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. industry (industry): Phil Collins → The War of the Roses. Phil Collins wrote a song for Roses that was supposed to be in it but took too long and the offer was withdrawn.
    “Phil Collins wrote a song called Something Happened on the Way to Heaven that was supposed to be in this.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:10:38 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

lineage (3)

  1. lineage (lineage): The War of the Roses → Game of Thrones. The actual historical Wars of the Roses was a big inspiration for Game of Thrones.
    “Big inspiration for Game of Thrones.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:56:37 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): The War of the Roses → Gone Girl. Roses is described as a prequel to Gone Girl; it could have pivoted to Turner killing Douglas and going on the run.
    “This movie's kind of a prequel to Gone Girl.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:37:30 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage): Problem Child → The War of the Roses. They had pitched Problem Child to be a grown-up dark comedy like The War of the Roses.
    “talked about the War of the Roses”
    The Big Picture · The 10 Best Horror Movies of the Decade | The Big Picture · 1:14:24 · unknown (Alexander or Karaszewski) (0.40 sure it was them)

programming (4)

  1. programming (programming): The War of the Roses → Body Heat. Triple-feature pitch: Roses with Body Heat and Fatal Attraction.
    “I do think we should be pairing this with both body heat and fatal attraction.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:32:05 · Mallory Rubin (0.45 sure it was them)
  2. programming (programming): The War of the Roses → Fatal Attraction. Pair an erotic-thriller double with Roses for a full day of 80s marriage trouble.
    “I think that should be like we get an erotic thriller with both of them and then we watch this”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:32:10 · Mallory Rubin (0.45 sure it was them)
  3. programming (programming): The War of the Roses → Romancing the Stone. The speakers pair Roses with Romancing the Stone for the other end of the Douglas/Turner spectrum.
    “I was going to say romance in the stone just to get the other end of the spectrum.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:32:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. programming (programming): The War of the Roses → Mr. & Mrs. Smith. Mr. & Mrs. Smith is the lighter double feature since the couple also wreck the house but it works out.
    “Because they tear up the house in the same way, but then it kind of works out, at least in the movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:32:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

theme (7)

  1. theme (theme): The War of the Roses → Kramer vs. Kramer. Roses may be the more on-point childhood divorce movie than Kramer, and the two anchor any divorce-movie pantheon.
    “But this might actually be the more on point childhood divorce movie for me.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:02:41 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme): Irreconcilable Differences → The War of the Roses. Irreconcilable Differences is in one speaker's divorce top four, and it is currently unfindable.
    “for me, it's irreconcilable differences would be in my top four, which you can't find.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:04:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme): Mrs. Doubtfire → The War of the Roses. Mrs. Doubtfire is the divorce movie from the child's perspective, even though it reads as a Robin Williams comedy.
    “I think mine is Mrs. Doubtfire for the child perspective.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:04:38 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. theme (theme): The War of the Roses → Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. The ridiculous young-Douglas casting justifies de-aging in movies like Dial of Destiny.
    “this is why it is okay to DH Harrison Ford in Dial of Destiny”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:20:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. theme (theme): The War of the Roses → Sleeping with the Enemy. Other movie houses the speakers suggest as better than the Roses mansion.
    “What about the sleeping with the enemy house that she ended up staying in?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:08:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. theme (theme): The War of the Roses → The Money Pit. The Money Pit is offered as the alternative house-that-ruins-a-marriage movie.
    “Is this the best we got this house that have ruined our lives movie or would you go the money?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:15:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  7. theme (theme): The War of the Roses → The Shining. The house in Roses becomes a domestic horror, with the Shining hotel as its sequel image.
    “The shining house, just for the shining hotel.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:31:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

verdict (2)

  1. verdict (verdict): The War of the Roses → Kramer vs. Kramer. Kramer vs. Kramer and Roses must be on every list of four great divorce movies.
    “What's interesting is I think Kramer versus Kramer War of the Rose have to be on it no matter whose list it is.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:03:47 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (verdict): Roger Ebert → The War of the Roses. The Ebert review (3 stars) called Roses a black, angry, bitter, unrelenting comedy.
    “The War of the Roses is a black, angry, bitter, unrelenting comedy.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:19:08 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

what-if (6)

  1. what-if (what-if): The War of the Roses → Benedict Cumberbatch. The speakers doubt Coleman and Cumberbatch can sell the initial reckless attraction the story needs.
    “They need to be hot and Coleman and Cumberbatch are not hot enough.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:13:08 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. what-if (what-if): Cher → The War of the Roses. Cher was in the mix for Barbara Rose for a while.
    “Cher was in the mix for Barbara Rosa for a little while.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:05:20 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. what-if (what-if): Jonathan Demme → The War of the Roses. Demme as a recasting director, with Rachel Getting Married vibes and a black-comedy tone.
    “What's this movie of Jonathan Demi's directing it?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:07:23 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. what-if (what-if): Tom Hanks → The War of the Roses. Hanks versus Cruise as the lead; Hanks cannot turn off lovability, but one speaker thinks he is right.
    “I actually think this is the kind of movie Tom Hanks needed to make and tried to make a couple times in the 80s.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:16:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. what-if (what-if): Samuel L. Jackson → The War of the Roses. Sam Jackson as the lawyer's silent client, since Roses is one of the whitest movies ever.
    “I gotta say, this movie actually needs Sam Jackson.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:28:53 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  6. what-if (what-if): Philip Baker Hall → The War of the Roses. Philip Baker Hall could have pulled off the framing-device lawyer.
    “I think Philip Baker Hall could pull off the framing device.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:29:12 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about The War of the Roses: A baccarat story told at the first big dinner scene, with Oliver coaching and then taking over Barbara's story, then the bedroom debrief.
    “Because it's all going good and we know it's going to go badly, but when she tries to tell the story and he's like coaching her and then he takes over”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:23:08 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about The War of the Roses: When asked why she wants a divorce, Barbara says she wants to smash his face in when she watches him eat.
    “When I see you asleep, when I look at you lately, I just want to smash your face in.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:28:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about The War of the Roses: Oliver's cat is run over; the group debates murder versus voluntary manslaughter.
    “I think it was a voluntary manslaughter.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:31:32 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about The War of the Roses: At the client dinner Oliver pees on the fish; Bill calls it the best piss ever on a fish.
    “I think this is my favorite scene.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:32:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about The War of the Roses: The chandelier crash is the Great Shack order award for most cinematic shot.
    “which I would give the Great Shack order award for most cinematic shot as the things coming down.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:33:39 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about The War of the Roses: The nitpick that this is a roughly 20-foot drop, not a 100-foot one.
    “It feels like it's like a 100 foot drop.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:33:52 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about The War of the Roses: Liver pate appears in dozens of scenes, and the film gets a line out of it.
    “It's the very specific presence of river pate in... dozens of scenes in this movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:39:34 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about The War of the Roses: In Germany the movie is called Der Rosenkrieg and the word became pop-culture shorthand for a high-profile divorce.
    “And it became synonymous with high-profile divorce and is now just a word that's used in German pop culture.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:43:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  9. fun, about The War of the Roses: The famous line 'never apologize for being multi-orgasmic' wins most memorable quote.
    “Probably never apologized for being multi-orgasmic, pretty hilarious.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:56:45 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  10. fun, about The War of the Roses: Conspiracy theory: lawyer Gavin engineered the whole divorce and benefits from the outcome.
    “Part of the reason that Gavin is the framing device for this movie is because this is actually all a Gavin Longcon, the entire thing.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:57:23 · Mallory Rubin (0.45 sure it was them)
  11. fun, about The War of the Roses: Amanda's unranked top-20 list of best movie houses, which grows past 30 as others add theirs.
    “This is not even a top 20 movie house.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:59:09 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)
  12. fun, about The War of the Roses: Test audiences were so horrified by the dog-pate idea that they added a shot of the dog.
    “the test audiences were so horrified that she killed the dog and made dog pate that they cut in the shot of the dog.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:03:41 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  13. fun, about The War of the Roses: Deleted scenes on YouTube include the indoor garden before he saws off her heels, and a heater scene explaining why everyone is sweaty.
    “So 20 minutes of deleted scenes are on YouTube.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:11:02 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
  14. fun, about The War of the Roses: A real-life man was inspired by the movie and got a seven-year prison sentence.
    “There's a real life guy who got inspired by this movie and it gets super dark.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:12:12 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
  15. fun, about The War of the Roses: Oliver's 1960 British Morgan Roadster Plus Four is a rare car styled like a 1929 model.
    “The 1960 British Morgan Roadster plus four.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:12:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  16. fun, about The War of the Roses: A new category: could Cruise or Hanks have played the lead; the vote splits and ends 2-to-1 Cruise.
    “Cruise or Hanks?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:15:43 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  17. fun, about The War of the Roses: A race horse named The Bald Avenger would be hilarious.
    “Race horse name, the Bald Avenger, would be the funniest fucking race horse.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:19:47 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  18. fun, about The War of the Roses: Life lesson of the movie: a man's house, car, wife and shoes tell you what he is.
    “His house, his car, his wife and his shoes.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:34:08 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  19. fun, about The War of the Roses: Craig's take: the movie is perfect because it's imperfect, and nobody would make it that deranged now.
    “I just love this movie is genuinely perfect because it's so imperfect.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:36:03 · Craig Horlbeck (0.60 sure it was them)
  20. fun, about The War of the Roses: The movie is the Gone Girl prequel: Turner could have killed Douglas and gone on the run.
    “This movie's kind of a prequel to Gone Girl.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:37:30 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50 sure it was them)

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