Miracle (2004)

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In the store as #522, Miracle (2004).

The Rewatchables' awards

From ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan (2022-01-18):

Most rewatchable scene

  1. pick Herb picks the 26-man tryout team in an hour while Craig Patrick objects
    “I like when Herb picks the 26 man tryout team in an hour.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:26:39
  2. pick O'Callahan fights McClanahan to get back at the cheap shot (Boston versus Minnesota)
    “OC fighting McLanahan is great.”
    unknown · 0:27:13
  3. pick Herb makes everyone skate sprints after the exhibition game until Rizzo answers 'the United States of America'
    “Herb makes everyone do splints after the exhibition game.”
    unknown · 0:28:01
  4. floated The players intervene with Herb over Timmy Harrer waiting outside the bus
    “I like when players intervene with the coach and they do the whole family thing, some good life lessons in there.”
    unknown · 0:29:50
  5. pick Ralph Cox gets cut
    “Ralph Cox gets cut.”
    unknown · 0:29:59
  6. pick The Sweden game locker room scene where Herb needles McClanahan to get him going
    “The Sweden game.”
    unknown · 0:31:00
  7. pick Herb's pregame speech before the Soviet game ('This is your time')
    “Great stuff.”
    unknown · 0:32:00
  8. pick The third period of the USSR game, opening with Herb's speech before it
    “I mean, you have to go with the 3rd period of the USSR game.”
    unknown · 0:35:03
  9. runner-up Herb tells OC he made the team and OC thinks he is getting cut
    “Can I throw one that is like probably the most moving moment of the movie for me is when he tells OC he made the team.”
    unknown · 0:35:11

Ebert review · The hosts read Roger Ebert's review of the film.

  1. pick Miracle: Two stars; Bill thought it was at least 2.5. Ebert liked that it is about the coach and the team.
    “Two stars.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:26:06

Best That Guy (Joey Pants Award) · The best 'that guy' actor in the movie.

  1. winner Eddie Cahill as Jim Craig: Noah Emmerich ruled out as too prominent; Cahill is the 'guy from CSI: New York'.
    “So the answer is Eddie Cahill, who played Jim Craig.”
    unknown · 0:52:51
  2. nominee Kenneth Welsh as the doctor: Transcript has Kenneth Walsh; he is in Twin Peaks and everything.
    “See, I have Kenneth Walsh as the doc.”
    unknown · 0:53:06
  3. nominee Sean McCann as Walter Bush: The man who gets Herb the job and taps Rizzo before the gold medal game.
    “I also think Sean McCann, who plays Walter, who's like the guy who gets Herb the job and shows up to a couple.”
    unknown · 0:53:19

Vincent Hanna Award · Best dialing it up too far.

  1. winner Herb's 'again, again' skating scene: Herb dialing it up in the scene.
    “But I think the, again, Herb dialing it up in that scene, um, Russell has a couple of moments where he takes...”
    unknown · 0:53:39

Weak link (the wife) · The weakest part of the film: the wet-blanket-wife trope.

  1. winner Patricia Clarkson as Herb Brooks' wife: Bill calls it one of the worst examples of the sports-movie wife; Ebert's complaint is read aloud and Chris agrees.
    “It's their way to pull an actress in a movie that they just know they need a female, but they have nothing to do for her.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:45:58
  2. pick Patricia Clarkson as Herb Brooks' wife: Jokingly, a Todd Field indie about the wife is the movie to see.
    “Clearly the wife.”
    unknown · 0:54:04

What stage the best (aged best) · What has held up best in the movie.

  1. pick Casting real hockey players instead of actors: Easier to teach hockey players to act; Bill Ranford doubles as Jim Craig.
    “It's easier to teach hockey players to act than it is to teach actors how to play hockey and the Brissimilitude or whatever you want to say.”
    unknown · 0:36:38
  2. winner Al Michaels as himself, re-recording his call: The third act is narrated by Al Michaels.
    “is having Al Michaels redo all his audio so that you basically get the 3rd act of this movie narrated by Al Michaels.”
    unknown · 0:38:28
  3. pick Noah Emmerich as Craig Patrick: Pairs with Beautiful Girls as his Apex Mountain combo.
    “This and beautiful girls are really the Noah Emmerick Apex Mountain combo.”
    unknown · 0:43:18
  4. pick Dream On: Great use in the closing credits.
    “It's a great use to dream on in the closing credits.”
    unknown · 0:56:27

What stage the worst (aged worst) · What has held up worst.

  1. pick Herb Brooks died before the movie came out and never saw it: A bummer, not a flaw of the film.
    “Hurt Brooks died before the movie came out.”
    unknown · 0:44:41
  2. pick The movie ruined every later USA Olympic hockey run: Everyone wanted a repeat after 1980.
    “This doesn't relate to the movie necessarily, but this ruined all subsequent USA Olympic hockey things.”
    unknown · 0:45:06
  3. pick A PG movie with no profanity from the players: Wants an R-rated ADR cut.
    “I think we as a society technologically have arrived at the place that we could go back and add ADR audio to this movie that adds a bunch of profanity because there's no way these guys didn't swear all the time.”
    unknown · 0:50:05

Casting what ifs · Almost-castings and recasts.

  1. pick Kevin Costner as Herb Brooks: Costner would overpower it and Hanks is too soft; Russell is perfect.
    “Costner, I think he overpowers it.”
    unknown · 0:16:15
  2. pick Ryan Gosling as a player: Would have learned to skate.
    “Get Gosling in here.”
    unknown · 0:54:57
  3. pick Taylor Kitsch as McClanahan: Transcript has Taylor Kitt; he could skate, maybe as McClanahan.
    “Maybe it's McClanahan.”
    unknown · 0:55:27

Dion Waiters Award · Small role, big impact.

  1. winner The Russian coach: No lines but three expressions.
    “Can we nominate his eyebrows for Dion Waiter?”
    unknown · 1:01:22
  2. nominee Al Michaels as himself: Floated, then dropped in favor of going without Michaels.
    “Oh, that's amazing.”
    unknown · 1:01:39

Picking Nits · Nitpicks of a movie they love.

  1. pick Soviet coach benching Tretiak: Likened to a coach benching his quarterback in the Super Bowl.
    “Soviet coach benching Treadiac.”
    unknown · 1:02:27
  2. pick The Lake Placid crowd, shot with too few extras: Doesn't capture the scale of the real game.
    “I don't think it captured the scale of that game, like the wide shot of just, which I think if they did this movie, now they would have said just fuck it and filled it with...”
    unknown · 1:03:37
  3. pick Skipping the Finland gold medal game: Wishes for a Finland scene, but the Soviet game is the right ending.
    “I don't know if this is a pickanits, but did they skip over the Finland game”
    unknown · 1:04:07
  4. pick The runtime, 2 hours 17 minutes: Disney sports movies run about 20 minutes long.
    “Look, the movie is 2 hours and 17 minutes, which is too long.”
    unknown · 1:04:29

Could it be remade as a Netflix series · Whether it could be remade as a TV series.

  1. pick A 10-episode series combining Miracle with the Hawk documentary: Not needed, but it could be done, perhaps with what happens to the players afterward.
    “I don't think we need it.”
    unknown · 1:05:33

Unanswerable questions · Open questions and rankings the movie raises.

  1. pick A Ralph Cox sequel: Would watch 'Coxy'.
    “The Ralph Cox sequel, I think I would have watched Coxy?”
    unknown · 1:06:40
  2. pick Miracle as ranked 5th among Kurt Russell movies: Ranking: Escape from New York, The Thing, Tombstone, Tango and Cash, then Miracle.
    “And I think miracles 5 for me.”
    unknown · 1:07:26
  3. pick Is it the greatest sports-movie motivational speech? Top three, with Any Given Sunday's Pacino on top: Also named Friday Night Lights and Vision Quest.
    “I think it's in the top three.”
    unknown · 1:08:22

Memorabilia · A prop or piece of memorabilia they would own.

  1. pick Herb's plaid bell-bottom pants
    “Herb's plaid pants.”
    unknown · 1:09:53
  2. pick The Rizzo jersey
    “I would take the uh, the Arusioni jersey.”
    unknown · 1:09:59
  3. pick Jim Craig's postgame outfit: Would wear it as a bartender.
    “I would love to do Jim Craig's postgame outfit.”
    unknown · 1:10:05

Who won the movie · Who came out ahead.

  1. winner Kurt Russell as Herb Brooks: Not a debate.
    “Who won the movie, Kurt Russell?”
    unknown · 1:12:39

Apex Mountain · Whether this is the peak of someone's career, or where the peak sits.

  1. pick Kurt Russell: Not his apex; Tombstone is.
    “Kurt Russell, I'm going to say no.”
    unknown · 0:58:09
  2. pick Gavin O'Connor: No.
    “Gavin O'Connor, no.”
    unknown · 0:58:48
  3. pick Olympic hockey, as a sport: Yes, the real game is the apex.
    “Olympic hockey, yes.”
    unknown · 0:58:51
  4. pick Noah Emmerich: Possibly The Americans.
    “No, I'd probably say, I would probably say maybe the Americans for him.”
    unknown · 0:59:13
  5. pick Al Michaels: 1980 no, but 2004 yes: voice of Monday Night Football returning for Miracle.
    “Al Michaels, so 1980, no.”
    unknown · 0:59:35
  6. pick Sports Illustrated: 1980 and this cover as the apex.
    “I actually think this was the Apex of Sports Illustrated in 1980”
    unknown · 1:00:39

Who talked about it

The Rewatchables

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

No line says it drew on another film or person.

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

Rocky IV: 3 lines unmapped ×2 theme ×1

  1. theme (era / Cold War): Miracle → Rocky IV. The Cold War movies led up to Rocky IV, which Simmons jokes ended the Cold War.
    “all the Cold War movies were leading to Rocky 4 and Rocky finally ending the Cold War single-handedly”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:10:30 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

Slap Shot: 3 lines unmapped ×2 lineage ×1

  1. unmapped (generational): Miracle → Slap Shot. Rudy, Slap Shot, Rocky III, Hoosiers hold up for a younger viewer.
    “Slapshot is still good.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:18:14 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Remember the Titans: 2 lines theme ×1 verdict ×1

  1. theme (era): Miracle → Remember the Titans. Both belong to the one-star-on-the-poster era of sports movies from 97 to 05.
    “this is from 97 to basically 05, premise, get one big star.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:22:10 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

30 for 30 on the Miracle game from the Russian side (John Hawk): 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (companion): Miracle → 30 for 30 on the Miracle game from the Russian side (John Hawk). Hawk's documentary told the same game from the Russian side.
    “He told it from the Russian side, which was an interesting way to do it.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:24:35 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)

Al Michaels: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (apex): Al Michaels → Miracle. Michaels was at his peak in 2004 and returned as the voice of Miracle.
    “He's at the pinnacle of his powers, then comes back and is the voice of miracle”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:59:51 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them)

Any Given Sunday: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (speech ranking): Miracle → Any Given Sunday. Miracle's Herb speech is top three; Pacino in Any Given Sunday is number one.
    “I'd have Pacino one.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:08:37 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Coach Carter: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (era): Miracle → Coach Carter. Miracle and Coach Carter are in the one-star-poster run.
    “Miracle and Coach Carter.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:23:00 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Friday Night Lights: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (speech ranking): Miracle → Friday Night Lights. Friday Night Lights is another top-three sports speech.
    “I think it's Friday, Friday night lights”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:08:23 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Hoosiers: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (speech trope): Miracle → Hoosiers. Coaches say winning is everything, then the Hoosiers speech says play your game and I'll love you.
    “That's what fucking Hackman says to the Hoosiers.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:09:32 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Kurt Russell: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (ranking): Kurt Russell → Miracle. Miracle is number five on Ryan's Kurt Russell list.
    “And I think miracles 5 for me.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:07:26 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Little Children: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (casting what-if): Miracle → Little Children. A Todd Field-style indie about Herb's wife having an affair would be great.
    “Todd Field, yeah.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:54:26 · Bill Simmons (0.45 sure it was them)

McFarland, USA: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (studio): Miracle → McFarland, USA. Disney has a run of true-story sports movies like McFarland.
    “there's like the Kevin Costner running movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:24:13 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Midnight Run: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (character): Miracle → Midnight Run. Craig Patrick is compared to the guy in Midnight Run who says he'll go get the pastries.
    “I'm gonna go get some donuts, you know?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:43:34 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

Million Dollar Arm: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (studio): Miracle → Million Dollar Arm. Million Dollar Arm is another Disney sports movie in the same lineage.
    “Million Dollar arm.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:24:20 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)

Moneyball: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (trope): Miracle → Moneyball. Modern sports movies skip the wet-blanket wife; Moneyball does a single great Robin Wright scene.
    “Like a movie like Moneyball.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:47:41 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)

Mystery, Alaska: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (genre lineage): Miracle → Mystery, Alaska. One of the sparse hockey films before Miracle.
    “then it's like Mystery Alaska, you know, there just hadn't been that many hockey movies, the Mighty Ducks”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:07:38 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them)

Rocky III: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (trope): Miracle → Rocky III. Adrian in Rocky III is the opposite of the wet-blanket wife.
    “I think Adrian does a great job in that movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:48:13 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Rudy: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (speech): Miracle → Rudy. Rudy has a pregame speech good enough for the Jumbotron.
    “This is our house.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:33:55 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Teen Wolf: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (casting realism): Miracle → Teen Wolf. Unrealistic casting works in Teen Wolf, but Miracle needed real hockey players.
    “Teen Wolf, I like having chubby and Teen Wolf.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:37:27 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

The Blind Side: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (era): The Blind Side → Miracle. Ryan would put Blindside in the one-star-on-the-poster era.
    “I would actually probably put Blindside in that somewhere.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:23:33 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them)

The Replacements: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (generational): Miracle → The Replacements. Replacements and Hardball are watchable from the era.
    “the ones like the replacements and hardball, like that, from that era, all those are really watchable.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:18:21 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)

Varsity Blues: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (speech trope): Miracle → Varsity Blues. Varsity Blues halftime speech is a good bad one.
    “like Vanderbeek at halftime of the last varsity booze game is great.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:09:11 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)

Vision Quest: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (speech ranking): Miracle → Vision Quest. Vision Quest's Pele story must be mentioned.
    “Vision Quest has to be mentioned.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:08:38 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (remake format): Miracle → Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty. The Lakers HBO show suggests a Miracle series could work.
    “the more like we see, especially like this Lakers HBO show”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:05:24 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

industry (2)

  1. industry (studio): Miracle → McFarland, USA. Disney has a run of true-story sports movies like McFarland.
    “there's like the Kevin Costner running movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:24:13 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. industry (studio): Miracle → Million Dollar Arm. Million Dollar Arm is another Disney sports movie in the same lineage.
    “Million Dollar arm.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:24:20 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)

lineage (3)

  1. lineage (genre lineage): Miracle → Slap Shot. Slap Shot and Mystery, Alaska were among the few hockey movies before Miracle, which was a different level.
    “It was slapshot was the Alzheimer.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:07:32 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (genre lineage): Miracle → Mystery, Alaska. One of the sparse hockey films before Miracle.
    “then it's like Mystery Alaska, you know, there just hadn't been that many hockey movies, the Mighty Ducks”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:07:38 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (remake format): Miracle → Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty. The Lakers HBO show suggests a Miracle series could work.
    “the more like we see, especially like this Lakers HBO show”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:05:24 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (casting realism): Miracle → Teen Wolf. Unrealistic casting works in Teen Wolf, but Miracle needed real hockey players.
    “Teen Wolf, I like having chubby and Teen Wolf.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:37:27 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

programming (1)

  1. programming (companion): Miracle → 30 for 30 on the Miracle game from the Russian side (John Hawk). Hawk's documentary told the same game from the Russian side.
    “He told it from the Russian side, which was an interesting way to do it.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:24:35 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)

theme (9)

  1. theme (era / Cold War): Miracle → Rocky IV. The Cold War movies led up to Rocky IV, which Simmons jokes ended the Cold War.
    “all the Cold War movies were leading to Rocky 4 and Rocky finally ending the Cold War single-handedly”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:10:30 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. theme (era): Miracle → Remember the Titans. Both belong to the one-star-on-the-poster era of sports movies from 97 to 05.
    “this is from 97 to basically 05, premise, get one big star.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:22:10 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. theme (era): Miracle → Coach Carter. Miracle and Coach Carter are in the one-star-poster run.
    “Miracle and Coach Carter.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:23:00 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  4. theme (era): The Blind Side → Miracle. Ryan would put Blindside in the one-star-on-the-poster era.
    “I would actually probably put Blindside in that somewhere.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:23:33 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them)
  5. theme (character): Miracle → Midnight Run. Craig Patrick is compared to the guy in Midnight Run who says he'll go get the pastries.
    “I'm gonna go get some donuts, you know?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:43:34 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  6. theme (trope): Miracle → Moneyball. Modern sports movies skip the wet-blanket wife; Moneyball does a single great Robin Wright scene.
    “Like a movie like Moneyball.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:47:41 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)
  7. theme (trope): Miracle → Rocky III. Adrian in Rocky III is the opposite of the wet-blanket wife.
    “I think Adrian does a great job in that movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:48:13 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  8. theme (speech trope): Miracle → Varsity Blues. Varsity Blues halftime speech is a good bad one.
    “like Vanderbeek at halftime of the last varsity booze game is great.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:09:11 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)
  9. theme (speech trope): Miracle → Hoosiers. Coaches say winning is everything, then the Hoosiers speech says play your game and I'll love you.
    “That's what fucking Hackman says to the Hoosiers.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:09:32 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

unmapped (6)

  1. unmapped (speech): Miracle → Rudy. Rudy has a pregame speech good enough for the Jumbotron.
    “This is our house.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:33:55 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (dialogue / language): Miracle → Slap Shot. Hockey players curse well, so Miracle needs an R-rated cut; Slap Shot proves it.
    “if you've seen Slapshot another possible rewatchable, then you know that hockey players curse really well.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:50:18 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (venue): Miracle → Rocky IV. The Soviet game was filmed at the same Vancouver arena as the Rocky-Drago fight.
    “Which also featured the Rocky Drago fight in 1985 for Rocky 4.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:56:05 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (venue): Miracle → Rocky IV. The arena is called the Cold War Mecca and Madison Square of Cold War sports movies.
    “It's the Madison Square of Cold War sports movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:56:14 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (generational): Miracle → Slap Shot. Rudy, Slap Shot, Rocky III, Hoosiers hold up for a younger viewer.
    “Slapshot is still good.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:18:14 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  6. unmapped (generational): Miracle → The Replacements. Replacements and Hardball are watchable from the era.
    “the ones like the replacements and hardball, like that, from that era, all those are really watchable.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:18:21 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)

verdict (6)

  1. verdict (apex): Al Michaels → Miracle. Michaels was at his peak in 2004 and returned as the voice of Miracle.
    “He's at the pinnacle of his powers, then comes back and is the voice of miracle”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:59:51 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (ranking): Kurt Russell → Miracle. Miracle is number five on Ryan's Kurt Russell list.
    “And I think miracles 5 for me.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:07:26 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. verdict (speech ranking): Miracle → Friday Night Lights. Friday Night Lights is another top-three sports speech.
    “I think it's Friday, Friday night lights”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:08:23 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. verdict (speech ranking): Miracle → Any Given Sunday. Miracle's Herb speech is top three; Pacino in Any Given Sunday is number one.
    “I'd have Pacino one.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:08:37 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. verdict (speech ranking): Miracle → Vision Quest. Vision Quest's Pele story must be mentioned.
    “Vision Quest has to be mentioned.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:08:38 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  6. verdict (ranking): Miracle → Remember the Titans. Remember the Titans remains Simmons's favorite sports movie; Will Patton's speech.
    “Remember, the Titans is still my favorite.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:13:27 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

what-if (1)

  1. what-if (casting what-if): Miracle → Little Children. A Todd Field-style indie about Herb's wife having an affair would be great.
    “Todd Field, yeah.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:54:26 · Bill Simmons (0.45 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Miracle: Simmons listened to the Sweden game on a clock radio; the broadcast was tape delayed and he overheard the score in a grocery store.
    “I swear to God, in my room, in Brooklyn, Massachusetts, I listened to us tie the Sweden game on my clock radio.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:02:25 · Bill Simmons (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Miracle: Tape delay: a stranger at Star Market blurted the score before the game aired.
    “And we're walking around and we're in like the frozen food aisle, and I hear somebody say, it's 22 after the 2nd period or 2 after the first.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:03:58 · Bill Simmons (0.85 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Miracle: Sports Illustrated's cover after the win had no cover line, just the photo.
    “which I think was only one of 2 covers ever where they didn't have any sort of, uh, any writing on the cover.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:11:29 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about Miracle: Most rewatchable: Herb makes the team skate 'again' until Rizzo answers, 'the United States of America'.
    “United States of America!”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:28:54 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about Miracle: Real hockey players were cast instead of actors, because it is easier to teach hockey players to act.
    “It's easier to teach hockey players to act than it is to teach actors how to play hockey”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:36:38 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about Miracle: Buzz Schneider's son plays him, cast before anyone realized.
    “They cast Buzz Schneider, is his son Billy, who they didn't realize until after they cast him.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:51:22 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about Miracle: Dream On by Aerosmith in the closing credits; it also appears in The Virgin Suicides and Last Action Hero.
    “I just dream on in any sports movie is great.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:56:25 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about Miracle: Soviet coach benching Tretiak is the worst coaching decision, compared to benching Mahomes after a first-quarter pick.
    “this is the equivalent of Mahomes throws a pick in the 1st quarter of the round one playoff game”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:00:28 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  9. fun, about Miracle: Dion Waiters Award nominees: the Soviet coach for three expressions, with Al Michaels floated.
    “he has no lines in the movie”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:01:10 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  10. fun, about Miracle: Finland gold medal game skipped; Brooks's line to the team before it.
    “if you lose this, you will take this to your fucking graves”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:04:17 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  11. fun, about Miracle: Pitch: remake as a Netflix series ending with the team lost in the woods like Yellowjackets.
    “They crash in Minnesota.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:06:31 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  12. fun, about Miracle: Simmons bought two unripped Lake Placid US-USSR tickets at a collectors convention.
    “I got 2 unripped tickets from the Lake Placid, the US Russia game.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:10:39 · Bill Simmons (0.85 sure it was them)
  13. fun, about Miracle: Joey Pants Award for 'that guy': Eddie Cahill, Kenneth Welsh, Sean McCann; producer Craig says nobody in their 20s knows 'Noah Emmerich'.
    “Not a single person is going, that's Noah Emory.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:15:12 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  14. fun, about Miracle: Pitch for the next Miracle: Villanova-Georgetown as a miniseries, or the four Red Sox-Yankees games.
    “Nova basically was perfect in that game.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:17:27 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

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