The Rewatchables: ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan
Published 2018-12-24; 1:15:40 by the feed.
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The extraction calls the show “The Rewatchables (The Ringer)” and the episode “'Tombstone' With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan”.
Hosts: Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan. Guests: none.
Subject films: Tombstone (1993).
On the transcript: No speaker labels; speakers inferred from context and confidences are low-to-moderate. Vudu ad reads open, interrupt and close the episode; some lines are garbled by the transcriber.
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Awards and segments (64)
Most rewatchable scene
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Wyatt Earp confronting Billy Bob Thornton's Johnny Tyler in the saloon, near the beginning
“Wide Earp, confronting heavier Billy Bob Thornton.”
Bill Simmons · 0:21:21 -
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The first O.K. Corral shootout, Wyatt's 'hell's coming with me' speech
“The 1st okay corral shootout.”
Bill Simmons · 0:22:08 -
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The creek shootout, Wyatt walking on water
“The creek shootout, which was Kurt Russell's, uh, his take on what Larry Bird did in the 87 playoffs.”
Bill Simmons · 0:22:32 -
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Doc Holliday versus Johnny Ringo, the finale duel
“And then uh, and then Kilmer versus Michael Bean.”
Bill Simmons · 0:22:42 -
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The 'turn your head into a canoe' scene after Ben Johnson is killed, with Doc showing up
“turn your head into a canoe scene.”
unknown · 0:22:52 -
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Doc Holliday's first 'I'm your Huckleberry' in the saloon, facing a drunk Ringo
“I like that that 1st time Val Kilmer's character says, I'm your Huckleberry, where Bean is drunk and some of his buddies have already been killed and he's trying to challenge Earp, and then Doc comes from behind the shadows of the saloon and like, you know, delivers that famous line for the 1st time.”
unknown · 0:23:13 -
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The 'Hell's coming with me' scene and the killing montage after it
“My favorite scene is The Hell's Coming with Me scene and then the killing montage.”
unknown · 0:25:31 -
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The opening arrival off the train, the brothers and the three women looking at each other in the mirror
“I think the scene at the very beginning when they 1st get off the train and the 6 of them are looking at each other in the mirror.”
Sean Fennessey · 0:25:40 -
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Wyatt on his horse pretending to leave after Bill Paxton dies, then spotting Powers Boothe, the run into the creek
“I, uh, from a rewatchable standpoint, if you're flipping channels and it's, and Kurt Russell is after Bill Paxton dies and Kurt Russell's on his horse pretending to leave and he sees Powers Booth.”
Bill Simmons · 0:26:03 -
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The Billy Bob Thornton saloon scene
“My favorite is Billy Bob.”
unknown · 0:26:32
Ebert review · The hosts read what Roger Ebert wrote about the film.
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Tombstone: Three stars; he later regretted not fighting harder for it, calling it lost in the year-end holiday shuffle.
“Roger Ebert, in his review of Kurt Russell's Dark Blue, said, every time I see Russell or Val Kilmer in a row,”
unknown · 0:15:37
Age the worst · What has aged the worst about the movie.
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The 135-minute runtime: About 20 minutes could have been cut.
“135 minutes.”
unknown · 0:26:52 -
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The 12-minute theater sequence: Too long, though it gets defended as establishing Priestley's character and the town.
“Don't know if we needed the theater scene.”
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The picnic scene: Romantic-connection scenes nobody came to Tombstone for.
“I thought that their picnic scene sucked.”
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Bill Paxton's death scene: Feels dated.
“Bill Paxton's death scene is really bad.”
unknown · 0:30:09
Age the best · What has aged the best about the movie.
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The real mustaches
“Well, the mustaches.”
unknown · 0:30:24 -
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The crazy loaded cast
“Crazy loaded cast we talked about.”
unknown · 0:31:24 -
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Dana Delany as Josephine: A good career that felt like it should have been bigger.
“I just love Dana Delaney.”
unknown · 0:31:27 -
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The 1880s Wild West world-building
“I thought the 1880s Wild Wild West age really well.”
unknown · 0:33:40 -
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The closing credits walking montage: Four minutes of close-ups, unintentionally funny but kind of cool.
“The closing credits age the best for me.”
unknown · 0:35:02 -
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Val Kilmer: That whole era of Kilmer, through Heat.
“I just enjoy that era of Val Comer.”
unknown · 0:35:32 -
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The tuberculosis vaccine: A joke pick.
“Another what's age the best tuberculosis vaccine?”
unknown · 0:39:23 -
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Joanna Pacula: Wondering why she was not a bigger star.
“Joanna Pacula, Pacula, Pacula.”
unknown · 0:40:02 -
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Billy Bob Thornton
“Billy Bob Thornton.”
unknown · 0:41:17
Casting what ifs · Who was nearly cast in the film.
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Richard Gere / Willem Dafoe as Wyatt Earp / Doc Holliday: Kurt Russell said the film was nearly cast with Gere and Dafoe, but Buena Vista balked at Dafoe after Last Temptation.
“Kurt Russell said the film was nearly cast with Richard Gere as Wyatt Earp and William de Willem Defoe as Doc Holiday.”
Bill Simmons · 0:41:26 -
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Mickey Rourke as Johnny Ringo: He turned it down; the group thinks it might have been one too many cooks.
“Mickey Rourke was almost cast as Johnny Ringo and turned it down.”
unknown · 0:41:50
Dion Waiters Award · Small role, big impact.
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winner
Stephen Lang: Reportedly drunk throughout, and out of control in every scene.
“I think it's Stephen Lake.”
unknown · 0:44:01 -
nominee
Michael Biehn as Johnny Ringo: Bill doubted he is in it quite enough; another host argued he is too big a part to qualify.
“Michael Bean, I feel like he's not in it quite enough, so he qualifies.”
Bill Simmons · 0:42:25 -
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Billy Bob Thornton: Gets a lot out of about four scenes.
“And then obviously Billy Bob.”
Bill Simmons · 0:42:29
Apex Mountain · Where a star's career peak sits.
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Kurt Russell as Tombstone: Argued as his LeBron 2018 Finals, getting the movie financed.
“This, to me, is more like a LeBron, the 2018 finals for Kurt Russell.”
unknown · 0:46:41 -
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Kurt Russell as Tango and Cash: The end of the 80s, an A-list star after Tequila Sunrise; the case is that it opened Backdraft and Tombstone.
“I'm going controversial, Tango and Cash.”
unknown · 0:46:48 -
winner
Kurt Russell as 1982-83: The Thing, Silkwood: Nominated for the Oscar for Silkwood; the group conceded the point.
“He was nominated for best supporting actor, four, Silkwood, which is why it's his Apex Mountain around the thing.”
Sean Fennessey · 0:48:08 -
nominee
Val Kilmer as Heat: De Niro's wingman in the biggest movie of the mid 90s.
“I'm going heat.”
unknown · 0:49:39 -
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Val Kilmer as Top Gun: Offered, then rejected as a Cruise movie.
“I would imagine that Top Gun is his Apex Mountain”
unknown · 0:49:18 -
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Val Kilmer as The Doors: A personal apex.
“I mean, for me, my personal apex with him is the Doors because I thought he was out of control in that movie.”
unknown · 0:50:24 -
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Jason Priestley: At the height of 90210 and in a movie with Russell and Kilmer.
“1000% apex amount for Priestley.”
unknown · 0:51:24 -
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Dana Delany as China Beach era
“Dana Delaney, I feel like it's got to be when she was on China Beach, which I think was still was gone at this point.”
unknown · 0:52:07 -
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George Cosmatos as ghost director: Offered as the only other Apex Mountain in the movie.
“I don't really have any other Apex Mountains other than George Cosmatos, ghost director.”
unknown · 0:52:14 -
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Bill Paxton: Not a Mount Rushmore Paxton performance; the question is whether it is his sweet spot.
“I don't think that this is a Mount Rushmore Paxton performance.”
unknown · 0:52:37
Joey Pants Award · The best 'hey, it's that guy' in the movie.
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Dana Wheeler-Nicholson as Maddie: The girl from Fletch; the winner because the narrator tells us she died of a drug overdose.
“She's my Joey Pants winner because at the end, they just casually tell us she died of a drug over.”
Bill Simmons · 0:56:43 -
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Stephen Lang: Most people could not recognize him with the beard and mud.
“I still don't feel like most people know who Stephen Lang is or could recognize him.”
unknown · 0:55:15
Saul Rubinek Award · The best overacting in the movie; an award, not a demerit.
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winner
Dana Wheeler-Nicholson as Maddie: Sean agreed as tiebreaker; Chris objected that Powers Boothe is in the movie.
“That leads us to the Saul Rubenek.”
Bill Simmons · 0:57:39 -
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Dana Wheeler-Nicholson as Maddie
“It's Dana Wheeler Nicholson.”
Sean Fennessey · 0:58:01 -
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Powers Boothe: Wears a sash and sachets around town.
“Powers Booth.”
Chris Ryan · 0:57:58 -
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Billy Zane: Overacts in every movie; a melodramatic actor is the point of his character.
“I think Billy Zane overacts in every movie and I just don't think he's good.”
unknown · 0:59:03 -
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Sam Elliott: Overdoing the Western thing.
“You could actually make an argument in a different kind of way that Sam Elliott is overdoing the Western thing.”
unknown · 0:59:24 -
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Robert Mitchum as the narrator: Floated as the unnecessary narrator.
“Is it possible that it's Robert Mitchum as the completely unnecessary narrator?”
unknown · 0:59:36
Picking Nits · Nitpicks of a film they love.
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The unnecessary narrator
“Why do we need a narrator?”
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Maddie's drug overdose and its lack of payoff
“Maddie dying of a drug overdose.”
unknown · 1:00:01 -
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No great poker scene: Wyatt versus Powers Boothe and Kilmer at the table was a wasted opportunity.
“It's really upsetting to me that they didn't have like an awesome poker scene in this movie.”
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Confusing edits, nighttime twice
“There's a bunch of like weird edits where there's like, it's like nighttime twice, and it's like unclear whether it's the same day or not,”
unknown · 1:03:13 -
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The killing after Doc kills Ringo, a lynch mob third act
“Here's my biggest problem with the movie is after Doc Holiday kills Johnny Ringo, which is just an amazing scene.”
unknown · 1:03:28
Best quotes · The best lines in the movie.
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I never saw a rich man that didn't have a guilty conscience
“I never saw a rich man that didn't have guilty conscience.”
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I don't think I'll let you arrest us today, Behan
“I don't think I'll let you arrest us today, Beehan.”
unknown · 1:04:28 -
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It's not revenge he's after, it's a reckoning
“It's a reckoning.”
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Doc: 'Wyatt, why are you doing this?' / 'I got lots of friends'
“Yeah, well, I got lots of friends.”
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John, I apologize. I forgot you were there. You may go now.
“You may go now.”
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I'm your Huckleberry
“I'm your Huckleberry.”
unknown · 1:05:16
Unanswered questions · Questions the movie leaves open.
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Does Kevin Costner make this movie better or worse?: Consensus: it does not work without Russell, and Costner was too famous and in his own head.
“Probably unanswerable questions.”
Bill Simmons · 1:05:20 -
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Would you watch a reconstructed 'Western Godfather' Tombstone?: The hosts doubt it would work, and like the messy flaws of the version that exists.
“Um, would you would you want to watch a movie that were a reconstructed tombstone that they tried to make as the Western Godfather?”
Sean Fennessey · 1:06:57
Who won the movie · Who came out on top of the movie.
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winner
Kurt Russell: Star, finished the film, took ownership of making it so good.
“I think you got to say Carusell, because not only is he the star, and it's one of his best movies, but in the aftermath of this whole thing,”
unknown · 1:12:33 -
winner
Val Kilmer: Russell is why it got made; Kilmer is why we remember it.
“Kilmer's the reason we remember it.”
unknown · 1:12:49 -
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Val Kilmer: Russell wins it spiritually, Kilmer wins watching the movie itself.
“I think Kurt Russell wins it spiritually for keeping a lot keeping it alive, but I think Val Kilmer wins the movie.”
unknown · 1:13:15
What would evil Wilford Brimley have done · A new, joke category: what evil Wilford Brimley would have done in the movie.
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Maddie's laudanum bottle at the end: A running joke; no real answers.
“It's like, Maddie, at the end of that bottle, you know what's just going to find? Hardache, hardache.”
unknown · 1:14:37
Films that came up
subject (1)
passing (77)
Rounders · Dances with Wolves · Tango & Cash · The Doors · Batman Forever · Heat · The Island of Dr. Moreau · The Ghost and the Darkness · The Saint · Tequila Sunrise · The Firm · Backdraft · Unlawful Entry · Captain Ron · Death Proof · The Hateful Eight · Dark Blue · True Romance · Zodiac · Six Degrees of Separation · Eight Men Out · Saturday Night Fever · American History X · Singles · Mystic Pizza · The Big Chill · Running Scared · Basic Instinct · Kingpin · Bloodsport · Double Jeopardy · Stuart Little · Free Willy · Pink Panther 2 · Aliens · The Terminator · The Abyss · Terminator 2: Judgment Day · China Beach · Exit to Eden · Deadwood · The Fugitive · What's Eating Gilbert Grape · Schindler's List · In the Name of the Father · In the Line of Fire · Mark of the Devil · Marked for Death · The Last Temptation of Christ · Avatar · The Thing · Escape from New York · Silkwood · Swing Shift · Big Trouble in Little China · Miracle · Top Gun · Top Secret! · The Real McCoy · Thunderheart · Willow · JFK · Rocky IV · Phantom Thread · Near Dark · One False Move · Weird Science · True Lies · Twister · Speed · Fletch · Bye Bye Love · Apocalypse Now · All the Pretty Horses · Public Enemies · Goodfellas · Good Will Hunting
compared (15)
Cobra · Wyatt Earp · White House Down · Olympus Has Fallen · Armageddon · Deep Impact · Dante's Peak · Volcano · Prefontaine · Without Limits · The Godfather · Under Siege · Three Amigos · The Other Side of the Wind · Last of the Mohicans
anecdote (2)
Rambo: First Blood Part II · Fletch sequel (Fletch Lives)
recommended (3)
Claims (75)
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lineage (lineage):
Tombstone → Rounders.
Ryan called Tombstone the Rounders of Westerns for rewatchability.
“I was like, this movie is the Rounders of Westerns.”
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career (career):
Kevin Costner → Tombstone.
Costner was attached at first and bowed out over the script's focus.
“Disagreed with Kevin Jari over the focus of the film.”
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contrast (contrast):
Tombstone → Wyatt Earp.
Costner left Tombstone over its focus, then made the competing Wyatt Earp, which arrived months later.
“He believed the emphasis should have been on Wyatt Earp rather than the many characters in the script.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:04:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Lawrence Kasdan → Wyatt Earp.
Costner teamed with Kasdan for the rival Earp picture.
“Bowed out, left the project, teamed up with Lawrence Kazden, who was then still pretty red hot.”
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programming (programming):
Wyatt Earp → Tombstone.
Rival Earp films, the second to market lost ground; Tombstone came first.
“It's almost like whichever one comes out 1st has such an advantage.”
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programming (programming):
Armageddon → Deep Impact.
Rival same-year disaster films; Armageddon won as the more fun one with more stars.
“Armageddon had so many more stars, though.”
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programming (programming):
Without Limits → Prefontaine.
Rival Prefontaine biopics; Without Limits beat the other despite coming second.
“And then without limits came out and was just a 100 times better than Prefontaine with Jared Leto.”
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people (people):
Robert Towne → Without Limits.
Towne is the Without Limits writer/director.
“Without limits is the Robert Town one.”
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career (career):
Kevin Costner → Dances with Wolves.
Costner, fresh off Dances with Wolves, could make any film; his blessing and Buena Vista deal shaped Tombstone.
“Costner was coming off dancing with wolves and could make any movie he wanted and that he bowed out of this.”
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industry (industry):
Tombstone → Buena Vista.
Buena Vista held the film and had casting say.
“Buena Vista, which was a subsidiary of Disney”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:07:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
George P. Cosmatos → Sylvester Stallone.
Russell says he got the ghost director through Stallone, who had done the same on Rambo II.
“I called up Sly.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:08:20 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Kevin Jarre → Tombstone.
Jarre shot only wide masters with no coverage, which got him fired.
“He was like, if I start shooting closeups, they'll take away the movie from me.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:09:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Tombstone → The Godfather.
Russell's intended tone was a Western Godfather; Jarre's version was more elegant.
“Well, Russell says it, it was basically the godfather of Westerns.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:10:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Val Kilmer → Batman Forever.
Kilmer's Batman is called the worst Batman but he was a huge star.
“the worst Batman, but still Heat 95.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:11:31 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Val Kilmer → The Island of Dr. Moreau.
Defended or insisted-on bad Kilmer cinema.
“Dr. Moreau 96, which I stand by until his death.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:11:38 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Val Kilmer → Kurt Russell.
The film is a microcosm of both careers: Russell the necessary hero, Kilmer the heat-check guy.
“I think this movie is the perfect microcosm of both of their careers.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:12:28 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Tombstone → Under Siege.
Part of the era of genre films that jump a level above their pitch.
“It just winds up being like an action movie that's way better than it has any business being.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:13:16 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Kurt Russell → Tequila Sunrise.
Russell's late-80s run: Tequila Sunrise nearly co-starred Pat Riley.
“Which I still can't believe they almost had Pat Riley as his co-star for that.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:13:36 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Pat Riley → Tequila Sunrise.
Riley was nearly cast opposite Russell.
“is one of the great win ifs of all time.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:13:40 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Kurt Russell → Death Proof.
Russell pops up every five years in something cool.
“he pops up in death proof or hateful ate or backdraft”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:14:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Roger Ebert → Tombstone.
Ebert gave Tombstone three stars, called Kilmer the definitive saloon cowboy.
“Singled out Valcomer's portrayal as the definitive saloon cowboy of our time.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:15:24 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Gene Siskel → Tombstone.
Siskel gave it a thumbs down.
“By the way, Cisco Cisco thumbs downed it.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:15:34 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Kurt Russell → Dark Blue.
Ebert quoted in review of Russell's Dark Blue.
“Roger Ebert, in his review of Kurt Russell's Dark Blue”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:15:37 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Roger Ebert → Dark Blue.
Ebert's Dark Blue review lamented Tombstone getting lost in the holiday shuffle.
“got lost in the year-end holiday shuffle and never got the recognition it deserved.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:15:44 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Cruising → Al Pacino.
Cruising is called Pacino's most incredible choice.
“It's Pacino's most incredible choice.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:20:34 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Cruising → William Friedkin.
Cruising is directed by Friedkin.
“Directed by the great Billy Friedkin.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:21:10 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
Michael Biehn → Michael Rooker.
Biehn and Rooker effectively swapped parts: Biehn usually plays the good guy.
“I think that he and Michael Rooker have basically switched parts in this movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:24:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Michael Biehn → The Terminator.
Biehn was the lead of a big sci-fi movie of the 80s.
“He was the lead of the biggest science fiction movie of the of the entire 80s”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:24:53 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Michael Biehn → The Abyss.
Biehn went on to appear in The Abyss.
“He is in the abyss.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:25:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Tombstone → Three Amigos.
The wedding-execution opening resembles the Three Amigos setup.
“this movie's after the 3 amigos, right?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:28:23 · Chris Ryan (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Tombstone → Cobra.
The film's intense indiscriminate killing is the Cosmatos effect, like Cobra.
“It's like, it basically turns into cobra for 5 minutes.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:28:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Tombstone → Rambo: First Blood Part II.
The final-third killing spree reads like a Rambo thing.
“It's totally a Rambo thing where it's like, why are you just killing everybody?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:29:00 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Dana Delany → Tombstone.
Delany's Josephine is a fiercely independent woman, woke for the Old West.
“This movie is like weirdly woke about the woman's place in the Old West.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:29:19 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Dana Delany → China Beach.
Delany's TV show; a long tangent on its finale.
“You been a China Beach fan?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:31:37 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
Dana Delany → Carla Gugino.
Delany compared to Gugino as a woman who should have been a bigger star.
“She was kind of the Carlo Gugino of her era”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:31:40 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
China Beach → Michael McDonald.
The China Beach finale's most emotional two minutes are the Vietnam Memorial scene scored with a Michael McDonald song.
“And they start playing Michael McDonald's, you can let go now.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:33:00 · host (unattributed) (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Tombstone → The Godfather.
The Oriental faro takeover shows the Godfather-like business side Russell wanted.
“You could see the godfather thing that Russell's talking about when he moves into Tombstone and immediately takes over the Faro game at the Oriental.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:33:55 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Tombstone → Deadwood.
Tombstone as the bridge from John Ford Westerns to Deadwood.
“I tend to think of this movie as the bridge from John Ford Westerns to Deadwood”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:34:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Tombstone → John Ford.
Contrast: Ford Westerns vs gnarly, vulgar Tombstone.
“bridge from John Ford Westerns to Deadwood”
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craft (craft):
Val Kilmer → Tombstone.
The other actors recognize Kilmer's performance and change theirs, becoming more buttoned down.
“they change their performances to elevate his because nobody's really behaving quite in the same way.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:36:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
Val Kilmer → Kurt Russell.
The Wyatt-Doc friendship is the real love story of the movie.
“you can tell that that's the love story at the center of the movie is the 2 of them.”
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industry (industry):
Tombstone → In the Line of Fire.
Kilmer was robbed of an Oscar nomination in a stacked 1993 field.
“I think that Malkovich is really good in the line of fire.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:38:25 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Joanna Pacula → Marked for Death.
Pacula only had Tombstone and Marked for Death with Seagal.
“She was in Mark for Death with Stephen Segal.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:40:51 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Richard Gere → Tombstone.
Per Russell, Gere nearly played Wyatt Earp.
“Kurt Russell said the film was nearly cast with Richard Gere as Wyatt Earp”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:41:26 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Willem Dafoe → The Last Temptation of Christ.
Dafoe was nearly Doc Holliday but Buena Vista balked over Last Temptation.
“we're not casting the guy who was... was in Last Temptation of Christ 5 years earlier.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:41:38 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Mickey Rourke → Tombstone.
Rourke was nearly Johnny Ringo and turned it down.
“Mickey Rourke was almost cast as Johnny Ringo and turned it down.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:41:50 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Stephen Lang → Avatar.
Lang is the star of Avatar but unrecognizable in Tombstone.
“he's... He's basically the star of Avatar.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:43:12 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Kurt Russell → Big Trouble in Little China.
Big Trouble came after The Thing.
“And then Big Trouble in Little China comes after that.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:46:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Kurt Russell → Escape from New York.
Escape was a cult movie that only later got big.
“Escape from New York was a cult movie that only later became a really big thing.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:46:18 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Kurt Russell → Tango & Cash.
Chris Ryan argues Tango & Cash made Russell an A-list star.
“He has established himself as an A-list star.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:46:57 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Kurt Russell → Backdraft.
Backdraft's success helped give Russell the leverage to finance Tombstone.
“now that opens up backdraft that opens up his ability to finance Tombstone.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:47:40 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Kurt Russell → Silkwood.
Russell's only Oscar nomination, best supporting actor for Silkwood.
“He was nominated for best supporting actor, four, Silkwood”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:48:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Kurt Russell → The Thing.
Fennessey's Russell apex mountain: 1982-83.
“Because 82, 83 is when he was at his best.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:48:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
Kurt Russell → Harrison Ford.
They share Paul Newman charisma, but Ford got two franchises and Russell stayed 3 good, 3 bad.
“him and Harrison Ford are cut from the same cloth.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:48:36 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Val Kilmer → Top Gun.
Proposed apex: out of Top Gun, people thought he was neck and neck with Cruise.
“I would imagine that Top Gun is his Apex Mountain”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:49:18 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Val Kilmer → Heat.
Ryan nominates Heat as Kilmer's apex.
“I'm going heat.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:49:39 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Val Kilmer → Heat.
Kilmer as De Niro's wingman in the biggest movie of the mid 90s.
“He's De Nero's wingman.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:49:41 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Val Kilmer → Willow.
Another apex case: 1987 right after Top Gun in Willow.
“you could make the case that it's 1987 right after Top Gun, because he's Willow, right?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:50:11 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Val Kilmer → The Doors.
Chris Ryan's personal Kilmer apex is The Doors, a movie he saw twice in theaters.
“my personal apex with him is the Doors because I thought he was out of control in that movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:50:24 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Jason Priestley → Tombstone.
Tombstone was Priestley's apex, a narrow high peak.
“1000% apex amount for Priestley.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:51:24 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Bill Paxton → Aliens.
Paxton and Biehn were supposed to be the stars of Aliens in any other world.
“Paxton and Bean are supposed to, like, in any other world, be the stars of aliens”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:53:10 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Twister → Speed.
Hollywood shifted after Speed; Twister marketed Paxton and others as future stars.
“The one that changed it was speed.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:54:13 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Dana Wheeler-Nicholson → Fletch.
Dana Wheeler-Nicholson is the girl from Fletch.
“That girl from Fletch, can I borrow a towel?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:55:36 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Dana Wheeler-Nicholson → Bye Bye Love.
Underrated Dana W-N performance as one of the moms.
“Underrated Dana Wheeler Nicholson performances Bye-bye Love”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:56:18 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Tombstone → Cobra.
The last third mirrors Cobra's final act: heroes killing everyone.
“Cobra, the last 30 minutes was basically like this cult has lost its mind and they're just killing everybody.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:03:52 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Tombstone → Apocalypse Now.
Director's cut/reconstruction era examples like the chronological Godfather.
“There was the Apocalypse Now director's cut.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:07:16 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Tombstone → The Other Side of the Wind.
Warning about reconstructing lost cuts: Welles film is a document, not a great movie.
“I think the other side of the wind is like an amazing document, is not an amazing movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:08:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Tombstone → Studio 54.
Studio butchering as a movie someone wants to see restored.
“Studio 54, how the studio completely fucked that movie up”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:08:34 · Sean Fennessey (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
All the Pretty Horses → Billy Bob Thornton.
Thornton wanted to make a longer version scored by Daniel Lanois.
“I still really wanted to see the version of all the pretty horses that Billy Bob Thornton really wanted to make.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:08:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (people):
The Last of the Mohicans → Michael Mann.
Mohicans was a rare Western that felt like Michael Mann meets MTV.
“That's why Last of the Mohicans was so interesting when it came out because it was like Michael Mann meets MTV.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:09:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
The Last of the Mohicans → Daniel Day-Lewis.
Day-Lewis learned to make muskets for his method.
“Daniel, Day Lewis was like, I'm going to go learn how to make, you know, muskets”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:09:49 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Kurt Russell → Tombstone.
Final pick: Fennessey says Russell wins the movie; Ryan says Kilmer is why we remember it.
“Russell is the reason it got made and finished.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:12:44 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Panos Cosmatos → George P. Cosmatos.
George's son Panos directed Mandy.
“George Cosmatos's son, Panos Cosmatos is a great director.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:13:00 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Mandy → Nicolas Cage.
Mandy stars Nicolas Cage.
“He made a movie this year called Mandy starring Nicholas Cage.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:13:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Val Kilmer → Tombstone.
Winner: Kilmer is the best one in it.
“I think Val Kilmer wins the movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:13:15 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Fun items (30)
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fun, about
Kevin Jarre:
First director fired after about a week for falling behind and shooting only wide masters, with no coverage.
“after about a week he was fired when it became clear he didn't know what he was doing.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:02:54 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
George P. Cosmatos / Kurt Russell:
Russell claimed he effectively directed Tombstone: shot lists the night before and hand gestures on set while the credited director stood in.
“The night before we would shoot, I would give Georgia a shot list.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:03:54 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Kevin Costner:
Costner left over the film's focus, then made the competing Wyatt Earp; the group says Tombstone still came out better.
“And so not only did they not have Kevin Costner in the movie”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:04:39 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Sylvester Stallone:
Russell says Stallone supplied the ghost director and had done the same on Rambo II.
“I called up Sly.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:08:20 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Val Kilmer:
Kilmer praised Russell for sacrificing his own role energy to save the film.
“He said, I have admiration for Curtis.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:10:38 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Roger Ebert:
Running joke: Ebert is the greatest pop critic and is on a hot streak on the show.
“He's the greatest pop movie critic in the history of the media.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:15:57 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tombstone:
Bill's quip that the cast is every white actor of 1993.
“It's basically every white actor in 1993 except for like 2 guys.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:17:06 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Cruising:
Bill's Vudu pick; insists the Pacino film is incredible, directed by Friedkin.
“Directed by the great Billy Friedkin.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:21:10 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tombstone:
Most rewatchable scene candidates: the 'Hell's coming with me' scene and killing montage, the creek shootout, and Kilmer vs Biehn.
“That scene, followed by a montage of just them killing people.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:22:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tombstone:
The creek shootout compared to Larry Bird in the 87 playoffs.
“Kurt Russell's, uh, his take on what Larry Bird did in the 87 playoffs.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:22:32 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
George P. Cosmatos:
Running joke after the ghost-director story: someone claims credit for the role swap between Biehn and Rooker now that Cosmatos is dead.
“But I was the one who told him to switch roles with Michael Riffle, Michael Bean.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:25:21 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Billy Bob Thornton:
Reportedly improvised all his dialogue, per Russell.
“Improvised all of his dialogue.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:26:38 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tombstone:
The 12 minute theater sequence: cut, tone down or keep; Ryan argues it establishes Priestley and the town.
“I think it accomplishes a couple of things that you need.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:27:17 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tombstone:
Mustaches: all real, hosts want hats and mustaches now.
“Just magnificent. And they all they were all real.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:30:25 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
China Beach:
Tangent on the China Beach finale: Vietnam Memorial and Michael McDonald's song.
“And they start playing Michael McDonald's, you can let go now.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:33:00 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tombstone:
The closing credits are four minutes of the cast walking in close-ups like a Vanity Fair shoot.
“a vanity fair photo shoot almost.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:35:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Val Kilmer:
Described as a free jazz, Byron-Shelley figure, coughing and sweating, while the Earps are solid American oak.
“Morgan and Val Kilmer is just like free jazz happening”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:36:26 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Val Kilmer:
Kilmer's accent compared to Yosemite Sam reading Oscar Wilde.
“he's like if Yosemite Sam was trying to read Oscar Wilde.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:40:40 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Stephen Lang:
Reportedly hammered through the whole movie; the Dion Waiters Award pick.
“who is reportedly actually hammered for the entire, like the entire movie”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:42:40 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Latin scene:
Ringo and Doc trade Latin lines; translated later by the hosts.
“That's Latin, doll.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:43:50 · Chris Ryan (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Doc Holliday:
His last words, 'I'll be damned,' with a theory he was looking at his boots.
“I'll be damned, really were the final words of Doc Holiday.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:44:17 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Kurt Russell:
Apex Mountain debate: Tango & Cash vs Escape from New York/The Thing/Silkwood era.
“Because 82, 83 is when he was at his best.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:48:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Jason Priestley:
Declared the 'apex mountain' of all time with Tombstone his peak.
“This literally was his apex battle.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:51:55 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Dana Wheeler-Nicholson:
The Saul Rubinek Award debate for overacting; hosts split over her laudanum scenes.
“Dude, you guys are both fucking wrong.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:58:42 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Robert Mitchum:
The narrator is deemed unnecessary, a Western cliche.
“Is it possible that it's Robert Mitchum as the completely unnecessary narrator?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:59:35 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Josephine Earp:
Real-life Josephine reportedly tried to erase Mattie from Earp history.
“Trying to erase her from history”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:01:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tombstone:
Hosts wish for a faro-or-poker scene with Wyatt vs Powers Boothe instead of the theater.
“It's really upsetting to me that they didn't have like an awesome poker scene in this movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:02:05 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Tombstone:
Kurt Russell says the footage could be rebuilt as the Western Godfather; he claims he found the hospital scene he wrote.
“The movie is the Godfather or Western Godfather.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:06:23 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Panos Cosmatos:
George's son directed Mandy starring Nicolas Cage.
“made a movie this year called Mandy starring Nicholas Cage.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:13:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Wilford Brimley:
New category: what would evil Wilford Brimley have done in the movie.
“It's called, what would evil Wilford Brimley have done if he had been in this movie?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:13:59 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Who's talking
- Bill Simmons (host): Loves sports analogies, Kurt Russell and Pacino's Cruising, defends 90s movies like Fletch. Dislikes dated romance interludes like the picnic. A sucker for mustaches and Dana Wheeler-Nicholson.
- Sean Fennessey (host): Cares about behind-the-scenes lore and fair historical context; likes Kurt Russell's career arc and Westerns. Dislikes stereotypical bad takes. Provides the lore breakdown.
- Chris Ryan (host): Loves Heat, Michael Mann, The Doors and Kilmer; defends odd roles. Fan of the Kasdan Earp movie more than the others. Sucker for Latin and big performances.
The show's recurring bits
- Apex Mountain: The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits.
- Who Won the Movie: The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off.
- The Ebert review: Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show.
- Casting what-ifs: Who was almost cast, or who should have been.
- Most rewatchable scene: The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels.
- Aged best / aged worst: What holds up and what does not.
- Picking Nits: The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits.
- Double feature: The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick.
Names the transcriber got wrong
- Sean Fantasy = Sean Fennessey
- Kevin Jar / Jari / Jarry = Kevin Jarre
- George Cosmodos / Cosmotos = George Cosmatos
- Kazden = Lawrence Kasdan
- Michael Bean = Michael Biehn
- Billy Crudo = Billy Crudup
- Robert Town = Robert Towne
- Wider = Wyatt
- Voodoo = Vudu
- Cisco = Siskel
- Dana Wheeler Nicholson = Dana Wheeler-Nicholson
- Gail Stanwick = probably Mattie (Dana W-N's character)
- McSherman = Sherman McMasters
- Kur Russell = Kurt Russell
- Pacala/Pakula = Joanna Pacula
- Elizabeth Schumacher = Elisabeth Shue
- Joey Pants = Joe Pantoliano
- Saul Rubenek = Saul Rubinek
- Dan Delaney = Dana Delany
- Carlo Gugino = Carla Gugino
- John Tenney = Jon Tenney
- Bill Simmons says 'Chris and Heat' at 0:12:16 (likely a wordplay on Chris and Heat/Val)