Rocky IV (1985)

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Wikidata Q387638, film, IMDb tt0089927, TMDB 1374: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only film by that title; 2 more episodes agree.

What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.

Who talked about it

Blank Check with Griffin & David

Blank Check — Patreon

The Rewatchables

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

No line says it drew on another film or person.

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

F1: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. theme (theme): Rocky IV ⇒ F1 (the host's read). Sonny and Kate's beer scene cuts into an old-school versus new-school training montage like Rocky IV.
    “Right into the Rocky 4 training montage”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:48:10 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Connected to

Miracle: 3 lines unmapped ×2 theme ×1

  1. theme (era / Cold War): Miracle → Rocky IV. The Cold War movies led up to Rocky IV, which Simmons jokes ended the Cold War.
    “all the Cold War movies were leading to Rocky 4 and Rocky finally ending the Cold War single-handedly”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:10:30 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

Brigitte Nielsen: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career path): Brigitte Nielsen → Rocky IV. Nielsen rose in Red Sonja and Rocky IV (Ludmilla Drago), then Cobra, then Cop II, which both say is her best part.
    “I think this is the best part she's ever had, right?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:36:31 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

F1: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): F1 → Rocky IV. Sonny and Kate's beer scene cuts into an old-school versus new-school training montage like Rocky IV.
    “Right into the Rocky 4 training montage”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:48:10 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Rocky: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Rocky → Rocky IV. Rocky 3 and 4 are big action movies, crossed with a music video, versus the character study of the first.
    “Rocky 3, and those like are big action movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:10:39 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

The Color of Money: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (ending analogy): The Color of Money → Rocky IV. The private Eddie-Vince final game is likened to Rocky versus Apollo Creed in private.
    “and gives Vince the money back and is like, you know, let's do, it's like Rocky versus Apollo Creed in private.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:53:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (1)

  1. career (career path): Brigitte Nielsen → Rocky IV. Nielsen rose in Red Sonja and Rocky IV (Ludmilla Drago), then Cobra, then Cop II, which both say is her best part.
    “I think this is the best part she's ever had, right?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:36:31 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (contrast): Rocky → Rocky IV. Rocky 3 and 4 are big action movies, crossed with a music video, versus the character study of the first.
    “Rocky 3, and those like are big action movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:10:39 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

theme (3)

  1. theme (ending analogy): The Color of Money → Rocky IV. The private Eddie-Vince final game is likened to Rocky versus Apollo Creed in private.
    “and gives Vince the money back and is like, you know, let's do, it's like Rocky versus Apollo Creed in private.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:53:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme): F1 → Rocky IV. Sonny and Kate's beer scene cuts into an old-school versus new-school training montage like Rocky IV.
    “Right into the Rocky 4 training montage”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:48:10 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. theme (era / Cold War): Miracle → Rocky IV. The Cold War movies led up to Rocky IV, which Simmons jokes ended the Cold War.
    “all the Cold War movies were leading to Rocky 4 and Rocky finally ending the Cold War single-handedly”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:10:30 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

unmapped (2)

  1. unmapped (venue): Miracle → Rocky IV. The Soviet game was filmed at the same Vancouver arena as the Rocky-Drago fight.
    “Which also featured the Rocky Drago fight in 1985 for Rocky 4.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:56:05 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (venue): Miracle → Rocky IV. The arena is called the Cold War Mecca and Madison Square of Cold War sports movies.
    “It's the Madison Square of Cold War sports movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:56:14 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Rocky IV: The Pacific Coliseum hosted the Rocky-Drago fight; Stallone broke his ribs and filming paused for two weeks.
    “Stallone broke his ribs in the P in the Agra Done.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Miracle’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:59:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Rocky IV: The robot given to Paulie is a favorite character; Paulie keeps trying to find a way to be intimate with it.
    “The robot Rocky 4 is one of my favorite characters in the history of cinema”
    Blank Check — Patreon · March Madness 2021 Recap - Round 2 · 0:51:52 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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