The Rewatchables: ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

Published 2025-12-23; 1:45:57 by the feed.

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The extraction calls the show “The Rewatchables (The Ringer)” and the episode “'F1' With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan”.

Hosts: Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan. Guests: none.

Subject films: F1 (2025).

On the transcript: Transcript has no speaker labels, ads are interspersed (Palmolive, State Farm, Subaru), and speaker attribution is often a guess; several lines are run together across speakers.

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Awards and segments (63)

Double feature

  1. pick Grand Prix: A host pairs it with the John Frankenheimer racing movie from 1966.
    “I'm going Grand Prix, the John Frankenheimer movie from 66.”
    unknown · 1:41:07
  2. pick Days of Thunder: Days of Thunder was the host's favorite racing movie before F1, and it is a Bruckheimer picture too.
    “I gotta go Days of Thunder. Days of Thunder was my favorite racing movie before this.”
    unknown · 1:41:10

Most rewatchable scene

  1. pick The opening: Sonny in his trailer, Led Zeppelin, the Daytona 24 Hours
    “It's just such a great character introduction.”
    unknown · 0:46:41
  2. pick Sonny and Kate having a beer in the canal-side pub, into the training montage
    “I have Sonny and Kate having a beer.”
    unknown · 0:48:07
  3. pick JP crashes in the rain at Monza
    “JP crashes in the rain.”
    unknown · 0:53:13
  4. pick The poker game and the balcony scene with Kate in Vegas
    “The poker game.”
    unknown · 0:54:07
  5. pick The final sprint and the champagne celebration
    “Then the final sprint.”
    unknown · 0:55:27
  6. pick Monza: the virtual safety car, the rain, Sonny's slingshot move
    “The virtual safety car, the rain coming in, sunny cuts off.”
    unknown · 0:59:49
  7. runner-up The British Grand Prix when Sonny doesn't start
    “I also really like, um, the British Grand Prix when Sonny doesn't start.”
    unknown · 1:00:01
  8. pick The final lap where Sonny is flying
    “if not for him, uh, flying is definitely Monza for me.”
    unknown · 1:00:13
  9. pick Sonny and Reuben meeting in the diner, pretending not to know each other
    “I love any scene in the movie. where 2 old friends see each other, but at 1st they pretend like they don't know each other.”
    unknown · 1:00:26

Ebert review · What Roger Ebert's rating would have been; he never saw the film, so the hosts guess.

  1. pick F1: Guessed 3 stars: too long, but the racing is incredible.
    “Roger would have given this 3 stars, too long racing scene's incredible.”
    unknown · 0:45:10
  2. pick F1: Also 3 stars; thinks Ebert would praise Kerry Condon's well-developed female character.
    “I said 3 stars as well, and I think he would have paid special tribute to Carrie Condon and how she was a well-developed female character.”
    unknown · 0:45:14

Best That Guy · The best familiar-face supporting actor in the film.

  1. pick Kim Bodnia as Kaspar, the team principal: Described as the guy from Killing Eve who has his family visit the garage.
    “I have Kim Benaya from the dude from Killing Eve is Casper.”
    unknown · 1:23:23
  2. pick Will Merrick as the guy who calls box, box, box
    “or Will Merrick, who's the dude who's always like box, box, box.”
    unknown · 1:23:27
  3. pick Tobias Menzies as Peter Banning
    “I went to Bias Menzies.”
    unknown · 1:24:27

Dion Waiters Award · A small role that makes a big impact.

  1. winner Shea Whigham as the man in the opening Whole Lotta Love scene: One scene, three lines, then gone.
    “That's my Dion Waiters.”
    unknown · 1:23:57
  2. nominee Don Cavendish, the aggressive English reporter
    “Could we go with the aggressive English reporter, Don Cavendish?”
    unknown · 1:24:23

Overacting Award · The most over-the-top performance.

  1. winner Don Cavendish, the English reporter: Treating people like shit, asking crazy questions.
    “I would probably say you're English reporter guy.”
    unknown · 1:15:50

Picking Nits · Nitpicks of a film they love.

  1. pick Sonny causing minor crashes to put JP in the top 10: Likely why F1 fans didn't buy it.
    “I'm just going to do this as a nitpick now.”
    unknown · 0:51:01
  2. pick Sonny Hayes is far too old to be an F1 driver: The oldest winner was 53 in 1951; Sonny would be about 52.
    “Sonny is way too fucking old to be an F1 driver.”
    unknown · 1:11:47
  3. pick The movie ends three times; Baja was too much
    “This movie ends 3 times, and I think you can make a case, you just stick with the 1st ending.”
    unknown · 1:14:24
  4. pick Sonny flying to Abu Dhabi and racing straight off the plane
    “Sonny would not be allowed to just fly to Abu Dhabi and race.”
    unknown · 1:31:46
  5. pick Brad Pitt as a runner
    “Brad Pitt is a terrible runner.”
    unknown · 1:32:30
  6. pick 1993 flashback with Pitt in a wig
    “He looks like he's like wearing Wayne's World's, the old Garth wig.”
    unknown · 1:34:47
  7. pick How Sonny's van got to Las Vegas
    “Why is Sonny's vein in Las Vegas?”
    unknown · 1:35:36
  8. pick Sonny racing after a 30-hour flight with a metal rod in his back
    “I just don't think you can hop in an F1 car after a 30 hour flight from Abu Dhabi when you have a metal rod in your back.”
    unknown · 1:36:16

Michael Rooker in Cliffhanger Award (new) · A new award for a character being angry at the wrong person.

  1. winner JP's mom yelling at Sonny
    “What the fuck are you mad about, a word? To JP's mom?”
    unknown · 1:33:49

Butch's Girlfriend Award (weak link of the film) · The weak link of the film.

  1. winner JP's manager (Samson Kayo): A nothing part that was never committed to.
    “it was probably his manager.”
    unknown · 1:10:59
  2. winner Sonny's age
    “Now, this is the weak link in the film.”
    unknown · 1:11:51

Aged the worst · What has aged worst; too soon, so the hosts name what already looks bad.

  1. pick Lewis Hamilton's dog Roscoe appearing in the film (the dog has since died)
    “Lewis Hamilton's beloved dog, Roscoe, is in this film.”
    unknown · 1:13:56
  2. pick Too few scenes of real F1 drivers reacting to the fictional reality
    “I think there should have been more scenes of F1 drivers interacting with these guys and or commenting on the fictional reality of the movie.”
    unknown · 1:15:28

Aged the best · What holds up best.

  1. pick The expensive soundtrack (Queen, Led Zeppelin, a full album of new music)
    “I like movies with just a great expensive soundtrack that they're just like, we're going to have Queen and Led Zeppelin and some other shit on this.”
    unknown · 1:04:58
  2. pick Kerry Condon as Kate: Her line about the car with the guy sitting in it.
    “I love it when she goes, what's wrong with the car?”
    unknown · 1:05:20
  3. pick "Box, box" as a catchphrase
    “we got to start saying box box.”
    unknown · 1:05:31

Casting what ifs · Almost-castings and cut roles.

  1. pick Damson Idris as JP: Hired after passing the F1 driving test; the actors he beat are unknown.
    “You mentioned Dampson Idris was hired after passing the F1 driving test.”
    unknown · 1:22:28
  2. pick Simone Ashley as JP's love interest (cut)
    “Simone Ashley, we do know that she did promotional tour interviews is in the movie as his love interest and then just got cut out.”
    unknown · 1:22:40
  3. pick Pitt once attached to a Tom Cruise Ford v Ferrari project with Kosinski directing
    “Pitt was supposed to be in the original Ford versus Fryer with Tom Cruise, and it was called Golek Hell with Kaczynski to direct, but it fell apart.”
    unknown · 1:23:07

Hottest take · A hot take offered by a host.

  1. pick Angelina Jolie's arrival sent Pitt's career in a different direction, like an athlete's ACL tear
    “I think that him just crossing paths with Angelina at the time he did, was almost like an athlete, like tearing ACL and missing 2 seasons.”
    unknown · 0:20:54
  2. pick The movie is better if Sonny crashes and JP wins
    “This is a better movie if Sonny crashes.”
    unknown · 0:55:40
  3. pick Distrust of people who throw cards for fun
    “I don't like anybody in real life or in movies that throws cards for fun.”
    unknown · 1:19:45
  4. pick Racing movies are ten times better than real racing
    “My hottest take was that I like racing movies 10 times more than actual racing.”
    unknown · 1:20:48

Who won the movie · Who or what came out ahead from the movie.

  1. winner Joseph Kosinski: It means more for him than for Brad.
    “I think that's probably the answer, because this means more for Kaczinski than it does for Brad.”
    unknown · 1:41:28
  2. winner Brad Pitt: A rocky last ten years; this brings him back.
    “I think the answer is Brad Pitt, because, uh, little bit of a rocky last 10 years for Brad, to say the least.”
    unknown · 1:41:37

Best life lesson · The best lesson the film teaches.

  1. pick It's never too late to not be the best that never was anymore
    “It's never too late to not be the best that never was anymore.”
    unknown · 1:40:41
  2. pick Create your own breaks
    “I have create your own breaks.”
    unknown · 1:40:45
  3. pick Dipping your pen in the company ink might work out (office romance)
    “I have dip your dip your opinion in the company ink.”
    unknown · 1:40:50

Best needle drop · The best use of a song.

  1. winner Whole Lotta Love (Led Zeppelin)
    “Kid Cudi pursued happiness where best needle drop. clearly a whole lot of love.”
    unknown · 1:09:55
  2. nominee Chris Stapleton song over the practice race
    “But I do like the Chris Stapleton song that plays over the practice race”
    unknown · 1:10:00

Best character name · The best name in the movie.

  1. winner Sonny Hayes
    “best character name, Sonny Hayes.”
    unknown · 1:10:07
  2. nominee Don Cavendish: Proposed as a new category for 2026.
    “The British the sports reporter, Don Cavendish.”
    unknown · 1:10:11

Best shot · The best single shot in the film.

  1. winner JP's car crash in slow-mo
    “JP's car crash in slow-mo.”
    unknown · 1:09:37
  2. nominee Sonny taking the checkered flag with fireworks going off
    “just the shot of Sonny taking checkered flag and the fucking fireworks going off.”
    unknown · 1:09:44

Big Kahuna Burger Award · The best food and drink moment.

  1. pick The beers at the pub: Honorable mention to the Bardem and Pitt diner scene.
    “Okay, big Kuna Burger, where Bessie's food and drink, the beers, the beer.”
    unknown · 1:09:27

Oscar pick · The one Oscar the film would most likely win.

  1. pick Editing
    “Just one Oscar who gets it, probably the editing.”
    unknown · 1:38:51
  2. pick Cinematography
    “I had the cinematography.”
    unknown · 1:38:54

Memorabilia · What piece of memorabilia they would want or not want.

  1. pick The helmet
    “I got the helmet.”
    unknown · 1:40:09
  2. pick Wreckage from one of the cars
    “Maybe the wreckage from one of the cars.”
    unknown · 1:40:14
  3. pick Sonny's watch
    “Sonny's watch.”
    unknown · 1:40:25
  4. nominee The deck of cards (does not want it)
    “What I wouldn't want is the fucking card.”
    unknown · 1:40:19

Most dated thing about the movie · What in the film could only be from now.

  1. pick F1 racing in Las Vegas; JP watching Sonny's 1993 crash on YouTube
    “The F1 having a major race in Las Vegas could only have happened in the last 2 years.”
    unknown · 1:01:13
  2. pick F1 as internationally beloved and celebrity-infested
    “I said F1 being internationally beloved celeb infested.”
    unknown · 1:01:32

Sequel, prequel, prestige TV · What follow-up the film could get.

  1. pick A 90s prequel of Reuben and Sonny, Austin Butler as Sonny ("F minus one")
    “90s prequel of Reuben and Sonny in the earlier days of F1 prequel.”
    unknown · 1:36:50

Films that came up

passing (71)

Sinners · One Battle After Another · A Minecraft Movie · The Conjuring: Last Rites · Drive to Survive (series) · Marty Supreme · Rocky (Godso crowd guy) · Vision Quest · Road House · Once Upon a Time in Hollywood · Mr. & Mrs. Smith · Troy · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button · Inglourious Basterds · Killing Them Softly · Allied · By the Sea · Fury · World War Z · 12 Years a Slave · Burn After Reading · Se7en · Fight Club · Ocean's Eleven · The Odyssey · The Martian · The Bourne Identity · The Talented Mr. Ripley · 12 Monkeys · Courage Under Fire · School Ties · North Dallas Forty · Jerry Maguire · Friday Night Lights · American Gigolo · Thief · Beverly Hills Cop · Crimson Tide · Dangerous Minds · Bad Boys · Con Air · Face/Off · Armageddon · Enemy of the State · Top Gun · Remember the Titans · Pirates of the Caribbean sequels · The Lone Ranger · Flashdance · Black Hawk Down · Gone in 60 Seconds · Arlington Road · Reindeer Games · The Ring · Transformers (three films) · Miami Vice · Superman · True Romance · Pulp Fiction (Big Kahuna Burger / Butch's girlfriend) · Boogie Nights (names: Chess Rockwell, Brock Landers) · Final Destination · X-Men (Gambit) · Running Man · Days of Thunder 2 (F2 idea) · Cliffhanger · The Firm · No Country for Old Men (Anton Chigurh reference) · A Few Good Men · High Fidelity · Jaws · Halloween II

subject (1)

F1

compared (30)

Avatar · Gleaming the Cube · Over the Top · No Holds Barred · Days of Thunder · The Fast and the Furious · Le Mans · Bobby Deerfield · Talladega Nights · Senna · Rush · Ford v Ferrari · The Color of Money · Top Gun: Maverick · White Men Can't Jump · Moneyball · The Big Short · Rocky IV · Any Given Sunday · Creed · Napoleon · Margin Call · The Wizard · Lean on Me · Rocky (Tommy Gunn fight) · Above the Rim · Star Wars (Yoda/Luke on Dagobah) · Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith · Good Will Hunting · Jurassic Park

recommended (1)

Grand Prix

dismissed (1)

Driven

anecdote (6)

Chef · The Best That Never Was (30 for 30) · Gears of War commercial · Cars 2 · The Shawshank Redemption · Go Like Hell (unmade Pitt/Cruise/Kosinski project)

Claims (50)

  1. craft (craft): F1 → Avatar. Simmons reacts to F1's filmmaking the way he is supposed to react to Avatar's tech.
    “I feel the way, the way I'm supposed to feel about Avatar, I feel that way about F1.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:03:50 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): F1 → Gleaming the Cube. F1 revives the 80s star-plus-cultural-phenomenon movie like Gleaming the Cube and Over the Top.
    “we used to do these movies, gleaming the cube, skateboarding over the top, arm wrestling”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:05:18 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme): F1 → Chef. Racing movies and Chef's cooking scene both beat watching the real thing.
    “I love racing movies because they're basically awesomely edited.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:07:16 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. theme (theme): F1 → Chef. Cooking is cinematic in Chef the way racing is in F1: movies render the activity better than the real thing.
    “I would say cooking movies or another one like that.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:07:37 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. theme (theme): F1 → The Color of Money. Color of Money shows billiards as the most exciting cinematic thing; so racing movies work better than racing.
    “if you watch Color of Money, you're like, Billiards is the most exciting cinematic thing”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:08:56 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  6. lineage (lineage): F1 → Days of Thunder. Same kind of 1990 star-driven racing picture, but F1's camera work leaves it behind.
    “This movie in 1990 was Days of Thunder, which was a very cool movie that I like a lot that we've done on the rewatchables, but it's night and day”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:10:12 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  7. lineage (lineage): Joseph Kosinski → Tony Scott. Kosinski is called the heir to Tony Scott's way of filming machinery in motion.
    “he really is an inheritor of some of like his Tony Scott's like stylistic revelations.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:10:32 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  8. theme (theme): F1 → Road House. Road House uses the 'you don't understand how good this guy was' trope.
    “Like roadhouse, best cooler.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:12:58 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  9. theme (theme): F1 → White Men Can't Jump. The movie dodged the White Men Can't Jump interracial-buddy joke.
    “like white man can't jump.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:13:19 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  10. lineage (lineage): F1 → Top Gun: Maverick. Same director and a broadly similar story of an aging star in the cockpit.
    “this movie gets compared to Top Gun Maverick a lot, same director”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:14:21 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  11. theme (theme): F1 → Moneyball. Scrappy underdogs exploiting the margins to beat richer rivals.
    “It's kind of money ball on steroids, though.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:14:29 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  12. career (career): Brad Pitt → Paul Newman. Late-career Pitt resembles Paul Newman in The Color of Money, embracing the twilight phase.
    “Paul Newman, color of money era, like maybe a little younger than Paul Newman was at that point”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:19:06 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  13. career (career): Brad Pitt → Tom Cruise. Cruise embodied hyper celebrity while Pitt just did whatever interested him.
    “Tom Cruise embodied, not just the movie star, but the hyper celebrity.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:19:30 · Van Lathan (0.70 sure it was them)
  14. career (career): Brad Pitt → Leonardo DiCaprio. Pitt never aligned with a single auteur the way DiCaprio did.
    “So in the way that Leo said, you know what?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:20:20 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  15. career (career): Brad Pitt → Angelina Jolie. Brangelina swallowed Pitt's career into a long period of lesser movies.
    “That Brangelina thing became so big.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:21:07 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  16. what-if (what-if): F1 → Moneyball. Pitt might have made three or four more Moneyball-type movies in the Brangelina gap.
    “I feel like there was like 3 or 4 more money ball type movies for him in there and he just didn't make them.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:21:36 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  17. career (career): Brad Pitt → Matt Damon. The group debates whether Damon's best seven films can match Pitt's.
    “So the question for me is, could Matt Damon top that with his best seven?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:24:51 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  18. career (career): Jerry Bruckheimer → Days of Thunder. Bruckheimer's five decades of rewatchables run from American Gigolo to F1.
    “This is, uh, 80s, 90s, it's 5 decades of him.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:35:26 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  19. industry (industry): Joseph Kosinski → Jerry Bruckheimer. Bruckheimer put Pitt and Kosinski together on a racing picture.
    “I'm getting Brad Pitt and Kazinski together and we're doing this racing picture.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:36:29 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  20. craft (craft): Tears for Fears → Gears of War commercial. The song under Kosinski's Gears of War commercial is named as Tears for Fears' Mad World.
    “It's called Mad World, the Gears of War commercial.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:41:34 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  21. contrast (contrast): F1 → Napoleon. Napoleon was an overspent streamer mess; F1 looks like craft and care.
    “the movie itself is just a mess.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:42:46 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them)
  22. industry (industry): F1 → Sinners. Sinners, One Battle After Another and F1 show that the Apple/Warner window formula works in 2025.
    “we saw one battle, we saw it with sinners.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:43:30 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  23. industry (industry): F1 → Superman. F1 beat Superman at the 2025 worldwide box office.
    “Take that fucking Superman.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:43:56 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  24. industry (industry): F1 → Cars 2. F1 passed Cars 2 as the highest grossing sports film worldwide.
    “It surpassed cars too as the highest grossing sports film worldwide.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:44:05 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  25. craft (craft): Hans Zimmer → F1. Zimmer scored the soundtrack.
    “soundtrack by Hans fucking Zimmer.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:44:20 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  26. career (career): Hans Zimmer → John Williams. Zimmer's F1 soundtrack is pictured as Zimmer closing in on John Williams as the top film composer.
    “Coming at John Williams now. Has John Williams in his sights?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:44:26 · unclear (one of the hosts) (0.30 sure it was them)
  27. verdict (verdict): F1 → Rush. Ebert gave Rush four stars, the high end of the racing reviews.
    “He gave Rush 4 stars.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:44:39 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  28. verdict (verdict): F1 → Top Gun. Ebert's racing reviews imply a three-star F1, floor set by the filmmaking.
    “Roger would have given this 3 stars, too long racing scene's incredible.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:45:10 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  29. theme (theme): F1 → Rocky IV. Sonny and Kate's beer scene cuts into an old-school versus new-school training montage like Rocky IV.
    “Right into the Rocky 4 training montage”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:48:10 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  30. craft (craft): F1 → The Big Short. Both movies must teach the audience the rules while telling the story.
    “the big short is the only other movie that I can compare to this film that has to do work in order for the narrative to be understood.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:51:44 · Van Lathan (0.50 sure it was them)
  31. craft (craft): F1 → Margin Call. Margin Call also pauses to have a character ask for the explanation.
    “there will be times in margin call where a character will be like, explain this to me like I'm 10.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:52:20 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  32. theme (theme): F1 → Top Gun: Maverick. The older ace winning the final race is the same choice as Maverick saving everybody.
    “sunny winning Abu Dhabi, much like Maverick, where Maverick has to be the one who saves everybody's asses”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:55:42 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  33. what-if (what-if): F1 → The Color of Money. Color of Money handles the old-dog/new-dog handover best, which F1's ending does not.
    “So the best version of this, to me that's ever been done in this old dog, new dog thing.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:56:48 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  34. contrast (contrast): F1 → Creed. Creed did the handover to the new generation best.
    “Like the movie that probably did the handover, the best is Creed.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:58:03 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them)
  35. contrast (contrast): F1 → Any Given Sunday. Any Given Sunday also hands over to a young player, with little stake in it.
    “Like once again, in that movie, there's no stakes in Willie Beaman taking over Cap.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:58:18 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them)
  36. craft (craft): F1 → Any Given Sunday. A Pacino-style speech from Sonny to JP would have been the way to keep Sonny out of the final race.
    “That probably would have been the way to have Sonny not race in the final race as he gives a Pacino, like any given Sunday speech, to JP.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:59:38 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  37. programming (programming): F1 → Drive to Survive (series). Drive to Survive is the 2020s reference point for F1's popularity.
    “I'll give you a drive to survive reference.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:01:08 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  38. theme (theme): F1 → The Wizard. F1 may be the most effective movie commercial since The Wizard sold Mario 3.
    “This might be the single most effective movie commercial, maybe other than the wizard.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:07:25 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  39. theme (theme): F1 → Final Destination. Sonny's likeliest death would be a Final Destination-style distraction on the track.
    “Final destination and shit.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:10:50 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  40. theme (theme): F1 → Lean on Me. Joe Clark on the roof is number five among old-guy-schooling-young-guy scenes.
    “Number five, Joe Clark to Sam's and Lean on Me.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:16:14 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  41. theme (theme): F1 → Above the Rim. Shep out-dueling Cal is number three among old-guy-schooling-young-guy scenes.
    “Shep. Out dueling Cal Watson in the one-on-one game and above the rim.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:16:56 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  42. theme (theme): F1 → Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith. Obi-Wan cutting Anakin's leg is a second Star Wars old-guy-schooling scene.
    “I'm talking about in revenge of the Sith.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:18:13 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them)
  43. verdict (verdict): F1 → Good Will Hunting. Williams to Damon on the bench ranks first on the old-guy-schooling-young-guy list.
    “The best old guy schooling young guy scene ever to me is Robin Williams to Matt Damon on the bench.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:18:28 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)
  44. what-if (what-if): Joseph Kosinski → Go Like Hell (unmade Pitt/Cruise/Kosinski project). Pitt was to be in a Ford versus Ferrari with Cruise and Kosinski, which collapsed.
    “Pitt was supposed to be in the original Ford versus Fryer with Tom Cruise”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:23:07 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  45. craft (craft): Martin Donnelly → F1. The crash that ends Sonny's career was based on Donnelly's real crash, and he advised on the film.
    “The crash that ended, Sonny's career was based on the actual crash of Martin Donnelly in the 1990s Spanish Grand Prix.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:25:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  46. what-if (what-if): F1 → Days of Thunder. Kosinski has joked F2 could be Days of Thunder 2, with Cruise.
    “F2 could be Days of Thunder too.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:30:54 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  47. what-if (what-if): F1 → Jurassic Park. A Spielberg F1 would be Jurassic Park with cars.
    “This is essentially Jurassic Park, but with cars”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:31:31 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them)
  48. contrast (contrast): F1 → Cliffhanger. JP's mom yelling at Sonny is the new Michael Rooker in Cliffhanger award for pointless blame.
    “It's the Michael Rooker and Cliffhanger.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:33:46 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  49. lineage (lineage): F1 → Grand Prix. Frankenheimer's 1966 racing picture is the double-feature pick.
    “I'm going Grand Prix, the John Frankenheimer movie from 66.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:41:07 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  50. verdict (verdict): F1 → Days of Thunder. Days of Thunder was the favorite racing movie before F1 and is a pairing choice.
    “Days of Thunder was my favorite racing movie before this.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:41:12 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items (39)

  1. fun, about F1: Simmons opens by calling F1 the number-one movie of the 2020s on feel; the production looked like a bust for two years.
    “I cant believe this actually worked out movie of the 2020s CR.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:02:42 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about F1: Seeing it in IMAX at the Grove, the whole family left exhilarated and nobody touched a phone.
    “nobody was on their phone the whole time.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:04:37 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about F1: The Monza crash stuns on first theater viewing because you cannot be sure JP lives.
    “The Monza Crush? When JP crashes, you're like, it's like when you just can't believe it.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:09:56 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about F1: Final-lap scene works with no soundtrack, just sound and Pitt's face, because it was set up in the monologue.
    “there's no soundtrack, and it's just the sound, and it's just Pitt's face”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:10:48 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about F1: The trope list of the show: the best that never was, old versus new, the spark-needing team, the climactic race.
    “The best that never was.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:12:20 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about Brad Pitt: Pitt's six stages across four decades, with the Brangelina era and Once Upon a Time as the icon turn.
    “The 4 decades of Brad Pitt, as a leading man in all the arcs, where the 6 stages”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:17:56 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about Brad Pitt: Pitt got $30 million for F1, and the hosts credit him for people taking it seriously.
    “He got $30000000 for this movie”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:18:20 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about Brad Pitt: Pitt's seven longest-tail movies: Seven, Fight Club, Ocean's 11, Basterds, Moneyball, Once Upon a Time, F1.
    “Seven, Fight Club, Ocean's 11, Bastards, Moneyball, once upon a time, an F1.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:24:42 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  9. fun, about Movie athletes by decade: Simmons's list: North Dallas 40, Drago, Willie Beaman or Rod Tidwell, Tim Riggins, Adonis Creed, then JP.
    “2020s, Josh Pierce, an F1.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:31:14 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)
  10. fun, about Josh Pearce / JP: JP's social-media persona is called the best 2020s version of a movie athlete.
    “It's the best I've seen in a movie this decade, I think, for where we are in the 2020s with social media.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:31:28 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  11. fun, about Jerry Bruckheimer: Simmons counts Bruckheimer rewatchables at about 16; he is one of the last producers who says 'picture'.
    “We've done 417 movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:34:52 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them)
  12. fun, about Jerry Bruckheimer: Bruckheimer got Apple to make inch-sized cameras for F1 cars.
    “He's getting Apple to make him like these inch inch size cameras.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:36:11 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them)
  13. fun, about Producing: A well-produced movie shows no seams.
    “A movie that's well produced, you cannot see the seams.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:37:18 · Van Lathan (0.50 sure it was them)
  14. fun, about Joseph Kosinski: He is the only director with two same-year-release rewatchables, Top Gun Maverick and F1.
    “He's the only person who's ever made a movie that we've done the rewatchables the week it came out, right?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:40:58 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  15. fun, about Joseph Kosinski: He directed the Gears of War 'Mad World' commercial.
    “It's called Mad World, the Gears of War commercial.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:41:34 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  16. fun, about Apple: F1 gave Apple movie credibility; Napoleon was the earlier misfire and F1 now holds the Apple TV landing page.
    “it gave Apple movie credibility that it just didn't have.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:42:13 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  17. fun, about Roger Ebert: The running joke: Ebert is dead, so they guess his star ratings: Rush 4, Days of Thunder 2, Top Gun 2.5.
    “Roger Ebert did not review this movie because he's been dead for like 10 years.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:44:31 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  18. fun, about F1: Most rewatchable scene: the opening, Sonny in the trailer with Led Zeppelin and an ice bath.
    “Led Zepp just coming in.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:46:47 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  19. fun, about F1: Sonny and Kate's canal-side beer scene: a pint and no cigarette, to CR's disappointment.
    “It's also a very idyllic pub on a canal.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:48:48 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  20. fun, about F1: Sonny causing minor crashes to help JP is what F1 fans dismiss as ridiculous.
    “You love this movie and if you do understand all the details of F1, you're probably like, well, that's bullshit.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:51:34 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them)
  21. fun, about F1: Hottest take: the movie is better if Sonny crashes and JP wins, even if it ends up bad for the movie industry.
    “This is a better movie if Sonny crashes.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:55:40 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  22. fun, about F1: Most rewatchable scene pick: Monza in the rain, the fire-extinguisher whip, then the slingshot move.
    “The virtual safety car, the rain coming in, sunny cuts off.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:59:49 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  23. fun, about F1: F1 is the new soccer: a sport you must pretend to care about as a cosmopolitan fan.
    “So to me, F1 is the new soccer.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:01:38 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  24. fun, about F1: Pitt's trailer: no one lives in a trailer better than Pitt in a movie.
    “I don't know if anyone's ever lived in a trailer better than him in a movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:04:07 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  25. fun, about F1: Weak link of the film: Josh's manager, a nothing part.
    “Give that character something. Make him a little sinister.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:11:36 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  26. fun, about F1: Nitpick: Sonny is far too old; the oldest winner of a Grand Prix was 53 in 1951.
    “Sonny is way too fucking old to be an F1 driver.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:11:47 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  27. fun, about F1: Working title was Apex; both title options are criticized.
    “In 2023, ESPN reported that the film was titled Apex.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:12:44 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  28. fun, about F1: The movie ends three times, and Baja is one ending too many.
    “This movie ends 3 times”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:14:24 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  29. fun, about Old guy schooling young guy: Top five: Lean on Me, Rocky vs Tommy Gunn, Above the Rim, Star Wars splits, Good Will Hunting.
    “This is the top 5 scenes of old guys schooling young guys in movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:16:08 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  30. fun, about Card throwing: Hottest take: do not trust people who throw cards for fun, with Gambit the one exception.
    “I don't like anybody in real life or in movies that throws cards for fun.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:19:45 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  31. fun, about Casting what-ifs: Simone Ashley was cut from the final film as Josh's love interest.
    “Simone Ashley, we do know that she did promotional tour interviews is in the movie as his love interest and then just got cut out.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:22:40 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  32. fun, about F1: Research: the crash that ended Sonny's career was based on Martin Donnelly's at the Spanish Grand Prix.
    “The crash that ended, Sonny's career was based on the actual crash of Martin Donnelly”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:25:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  33. fun, about F1: Bernie Collins, a former F1 strategy engineer, inspired the Kate character.
    “provided the inspiration for the Carrie Conan character.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:25:47 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  34. fun, about F1: Brand sponsorships brought at least $4 million, one reason the budget was disputed.
    “sponsorships from Bears Brands in this movie brought in at least 4000000 bucks.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:26:14 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  35. fun, about Brad Pitt: Pitt is a terrible runner, less than Cruise.
    “Brad Pitt is a terrible runner.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:32:30 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  36. fun, about F1: Where did Sonny's van come from in Las Vegas? A nitpick.
    “Why is Sonny's vein in Las Vegas?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:35:36 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  37. fun, about F1: Sequel ideas: F minus one with Austin Butler as young Sonny; F2 with Pitt running the team.
    “Austin Butler, as Sunny?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:36:57 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them)
  38. fun, about F1: Herb Street impression: calling Sonny's last lap.
    “Sonny's gone for that last lap in Herb Street halfway through the lab goes, oh, I think he can win this.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:37:35 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  39. fun, about F1: Double feature and who won the movie: Pitt or Kosinski, answer Kosinski gains the most.
    “this means more for Kaczinski than it does for Brad.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:41:28 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

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