The Italian Job (2003)

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Wikidata Q648312, film, IMDb tt0317740, TMDB 9654: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Edward Norton as actor (The Incredible Hulk); 1 more episode agrees.

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The Rewatchables' awards

From ‘The Italian Job’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan (2026-08-11):

Double feature

  1. pick Fast 4: Watch it second to see how many things the Fast franchise secretly took from this movie.
    “I'd go with Fast 4, just so you could see how many things they kind of secretly stole from this movie.”
    unknown · 1:40:56

Most rewatchable scene

  1. pick Charlize on the phone with her dad, the safe heist and the Venice speedboat chase, combined into one pick
    “The safe heist. Speedboat chase, everything.”
    unknown · 0:42:50
  2. pick Donald Sutherland's toast, where he dispenses his advice before he is shot
    “Sutherland, I really like his toast, where he starts dispensing Donald Sutherland advice.”
    unknown · 0:43:38
  3. pick The double cross, with the crew left underwater
    “Then we get the double cross.”
    unknown · 0:45:08
  4. pick Charlize fixes Ed Norton's cable and he asks her to dinner
    “Charlize fixes Ed Norton's cable.”
    unknown · 0:46:39
  5. floated Norton kills the diamonds guy
    “Norton kills the diamonds guy.”
    unknown · 0:47:04
  6. pick The Hollywood Boulevard car chase, with the three cars beating the subway train
    “Hollywood Boulevard car chase. We have the 3 cars beating the subway train is great.”
    unknown · 0:47:52
  7. pick The LA River chase
    “Uh, we get an LA river chase, which, by the way, to live in that LA right behind you.”
    unknown · 0:48:09
  8. floated Steve gets caught, the last scene
    “Steve gets caught would be the last one.”
    unknown · 0:48:48
  9. pick Putting the team together and the backstories
    “One edition is just the putting the team together and the backstories scene.”
    unknown · 0:48:54
  10. pick The driving range scene where the crew meets Skinny Pete
    “I got that one in the next category, but the driving range scene where we meet skinny people.”
    unknown · 0:49:05
  11. pick The opening Venice sequence
    “Oh, so my most rewatchable is actually the opening, the Venice stuff.”
    unknown · 0:52:03

Ebert review · The hosts read Roger Ebert's review of the film.

  1. pick The Italian Job: Three stars. He praised the slick caper and chase scenes, and said he would have wept with gratitude had he seen it at Cannes instead of The Brown Bunny.
    “Ebert, 3 stars.”
    unknown · 0:39:55

The Steven Seagal shitting on himself award · Most unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shoot.

  1. winner The Norton casting saga: Norton owed Paramount a movie and made this one under pressure, the story the hosts spend several minutes on.
    “The Steven Seagal shitting on himself award for most unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shoot.”
    unknown · 0:15:01

Reverse Peter North Award · The least effort put into the movie, the reverse of the Peter North Award.

  1. winner Ed Norton: Seems checked out, like Worm from Rounders on autopilot.
    “I also was going to give Ed Norton a special reverse Peter North Award for the least amount of effort put into the movie, a.k.a. the Dribbler.”
    unknown · 0:15:09

Appearance Apex Mountain Award (listener email) · A mailbag idea: the film where someone has been at their most attractive.

  1. pick Charlize Theron: Said to look as good here as she ever has. The mailbag email proposing the award was read by Bill Simmons around 0:26:46.
    “She looks as beautiful in this movie as she's ever looked.”
    unknown · 0:23:39

Weak link · The weak link of the film (Butch's Girlfriend Award).

  1. nominee Charlize Theron: Said in a tangent about the missing romantic chemistry with Wahlberg, before the segment formally began.
    “I think the it's the reverse problem is that Charlie is the weakest link.”
    unknown · 0:33:27
  2. pick The heist money math: The segment turned into a debate over how little the $27 million seemed to be worth for the cost and risk.
    “I know they make $27000000 in their heist.”
    unknown · 1:01:21

Most 2003 thing · The most 2003 thing about the movie.

  1. pick Lyle saying he invented Napster: Called one of the easiest answers.
    “Obviously, it's Lyle saying he invented naps.”
    unknown · 0:52:47
  2. pick Hacker mumbo jumbo that sounds right: The last moment a hacker could say technical nonsense and the audience bought it.
    “But I also have a subcategory for this, which is this was the last moment where a hacker character could just say a lot of mumbo jumbo and the audience was like, sounds right.”
    unknown · 0:52:50
  3. pick Hollywood Boulevard seeming alive and great: Van Lathan adds that Hollywood stayed lively until COVID.
    “I have a Hollywood Boulevard seeming like alive and great.”
    unknown · 0:54:01
  4. pick Seth Green: A lead role three years before Entourage.
    “One more 2003 thing about this movie. Seth Green's like really important in it?”
    unknown · 0:55:21

Floyd Gundali · Something small in the movie a host just enjoys.

  1. pick A crew leader introducing each member and their origin: Called one of the most repeatable pleasures in cinema.
    “Just anytime the head of a crew is like, this is this guy's job.”
    Chris Ryan · 0:55:42
  2. pick Gold bars in movies
    “Just love movies where it's like gold bars.”
    Chris Ryan · 0:56:06
  3. pick The fried cable bit: Likes that it echoes how the government really bugged a mobster's TV.
    “Also, the fried cable bit here, they do that in movies all the time where your cable's fried, and then they go in undercover to like get the lay on you or like put the bug your shit.”
    Chris Ryan · 0:56:21
  4. pick Messing with the stoplights
    “My Floyd is uh, I like in movies when they mess with the stoplights in the intersections.”
    unknown · 0:56:49
  5. pick The LA River as an action location
    “I like anytime it's set in a movie. The LA River as an action location.”
    unknown · 0:57:23
  6. pick Early 2000s Mini Coopers
    “I have early 2000s mini Coopers.”
    unknown · 0:57:30

Aged best · What has aged best in the movie.

  1. pick Real vehicles doing real chases in real places
    “Uh, just real vehicles doing real chases in real places?”
    unknown · 0:58:26
  2. nominee The Korean driving ranges and the terrifying Samoan dudes
    “One, both Korean driving ranges.”
    unknown · 0:59:35
  3. winner The shop owner predicting the financial crisis: Named the winner of the category.
    “And last thing, the shop owner in this actually predicts the financial crisis.”
    unknown · 0:59:56

Best shot · The best shot in the movie (the award's name was garbled in the transcript).

  1. pick Sutherland's body popping out of the water, with the pan up out of Venice
    “Sutherland's body popping out of the water?”
    unknown · 1:00:21

Best character name · The best character name in the movie.

  1. nominee Left Ear
    “Left ear is pretty good.”
    unknown · 1:00:32
  2. pick Handsome Rob
    “I gotta go hand some rob.”
    unknown · 1:00:33
  3. pick Skinny Pete
    “I gotta go skinny Pete.”
    unknown · 1:00:34

Best needle drop · Best music moment in the movie.

  1. pick California Soul: A great song, but so overused in movies that it bothered the host to hear it here.
    “Kid Cudi Pursuit of Happiness, where best needle drop, that California soul song.”
    unknown · 1:00:38

Aged worst · What has aged worst in the movie.

  1. pick The money song, played twice
    “They rely on that song, that money song.”
    unknown · 1:08:04
  2. pick The last shot of Wahlberg and Charlize on a boat: A mail-in ending for a romance the movie never earned.
    “The last shot of Wahlberg and Shirley is just such a mail-in.”
    unknown · 1:13:09
  3. pick Stella using her dad's catchphrase on her date with Steve
    “He doesn't, you know, he doesn't know who I am and like, but I am going to use my dad's catchphrase.”
    unknown · 1:14:28
  4. pick Jason Statham: His hair-covered head, before he went bald. The hosts add how hair transplants became common afterward.
    “So, Jason Statham's, Hair covered head has aged the worst.”
    unknown · 1:14:40

Did this movie need a random sports scene? · A scene the movie did not need; the award name was garbled in the transcript, a reverse of an Ed Norton award.

  1. winner Wahlberg and Statham's snippet of a basketball game: Statham plays terrible defense and does not seem to know how to check the ball.
    “This is also the Ed Norton reversed uncle word for, did this movie need a random sports scene?”
    unknown · 1:08:22

Wahlberg basketball moment · A moment where a star seems to have forced in a chance to show off a skill; the host said it needs its own award.

  1. pick Wahlberg shooting hoops and swishing a shot in the warehouse: Suggests Wahlberg demanded the scene to show he is good at basketball, like Costner with horses.
    “My flex is associated with the Wahlberg basketball thing. I think we need an award for this moment.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:10:51

Benihana Award · Best scene setting or location (the award name was garbled in the transcript).

  1. winner Venice
    “It's got to be Venice.”
    unknown · 1:16:31

Hans Gruber scale villain ranking · Where the villain ranks on the Hans Gruber scale, out of ten.

  1. pick Ed Norton as Steve: A six, for the perverse joy of how little he gives a fuck.
    “I'm gonna go, honestly, there's a perverse joy I get out of how little he gives a fuck, so I'm gonna give him like a six.”
    unknown · 1:16:35
  2. pick Ed Norton as Steve: A five.
    “Yeah, I had five.”
    unknown · 1:16:44

Flex · A host's own bit or pitch outside the fixed awards.

  1. pick The Italian Jobs, a porn parody pitch: A pitch for a porn parody called The Italian Jobs, with a story of a man reclaiming his Moorish ancestral kingdom through sexual warfare with an Italian crime family.
    “So, did this movie have a porn parody? The answer is no, but I do have a pitch.”
    Van Lathan · 1:18:53
  2. pick John Wick killed my brain: Modern action movies make the movie's rules about when gun violence is used hard to accept.
    “I'm trying to think of the right way to put this, but I think John Wick killed my brain.”
    unknown · 1:21:13
  3. pick Charlize Theron: Compares her to Halle Berry as a bizarro mirror: one Oscar each, franchises, social media.
    “Charlie's their own, Theron, whatever you call her, is the White Halle Berry.”
    unknown · 1:22:00

The Van Lathan Award · Whether and where the movie needed more Black people.

  1. pick A Black sidekick for Steve
    “Steve needed a black sidekick.”
    unknown · 1:23:38
  2. pick Black women missing from the movie
    “I think that actually where the movie misses some some brothers and sisters, it definitely misses some black women.”
    Van Lathan · 1:24:06
  3. pick A Snoop or young Black actors popping up around LA
    “There was an awesome opportunity to have like, I don't know, like Snoop pop up in this bitch or like young black actors from around the town, pop up in this motherfucker somewhere.”
    Van Lathan · 1:24:15
  4. pick LA's Black cultural fingerprint missing
    “LA has a very, very potent black cultural fingerprint.”
    Van Lathan · 1:25:13

Casting what ifs · Almost-castings and recasts.

  1. pick Mark Wahlberg: Dropped out of SWAT to do this, and Colin Farrell got that role.
    “Not really a ton here except Wahlberg dropped out of SWAT to do this.”
    unknown · 1:25:29
  2. pick Giovanni Ribisi: Was apparently supposed to play the Seth Green part but couldn't do it.
    “And then, uh, apparently Giovanni Rabizi was supposed to be the Seth Green part, but couldn't do it.”
    unknown · 1:25:35
  3. nominee Matt Damon: Floated for the Wahlberg part, then ruled out because of The Bourne Identity.
    “Because Damon can't do it because he's got born identity.”
    unknown · 1:27:36
  4. nominee Ben Affleck
    “Ben Affleck.”
    unknown · 1:27:41
  5. winner Leo DiCaprio: Says it would have been a home run in the Wahlberg part at that point in his career.
    “This is like if Leo is is the Mark Wahlberg part. I think this movie is a home run.”
    unknown · 1:28:17
  6. nominee Tom Cruise: Could have played Wahlberg's part, or an evil version in the Norton role.
    “have cruise play, uh, cruise could have been Wahlberg really easily.”
    unknown · 1:33:13

Hottest take · A host's hottest take on the movie.

  1. pick The Italian Job: Argues it supercharged the Fast and Furious franchise, which copied its setup.
    “I think this movie basically supercharged the Fast and Furious franchise.”
    Chris Ryan · 0:03:43
  2. pick The heists are in the wrong order: The Venice heist, the coolest, should have ended the movie.
    “I think all of the heist in this movie are in the wrong order and they chose the wrong heist to feature.”
    Craig Horlbeck · 1:29:35

Apex Mountain · Where a person's or thing's career or run peaks.

  1. pick The Mini Coopers
    “Cooper's.”
    unknown · 1:31:32
  2. pick Seth Green: Said to be the only person here whose peak this was, after the last Austin Powers.
    “This might have been the peak for Seth Green.”
    unknown · 1:31:38
  3. pick 2003 Los Angeles / Hollywood
    “Is 03 21st century apex for Los Angeles?”
    unknown · 1:32:07

Picking Nits · Nitpicks of a movie they like.

  1. pick The villains leaving after shooting at people underwater: The water is freezing and they have scuba gear, so waiting would have finished them.
    “When people are underwater in a scene like this, and everybody, the villains always make the same mistake where they fire bullets, and they're like, all right, we got them.”
    unknown · 0:45:46
  2. pick The helicopter strafing Hollywood with no police response: Set after 9/11, with no cops in the last half hour.
    “There's no fucking way. That's the biggest knit.”
    unknown · 1:05:00
  3. pick Charlize pretending to be a cable repair person
    “Um, just Shirley is pretending to be a cable repair person was ludicrous.”
    unknown · 1:33:35
  4. pick Identifying the right Brinks truck by tire size
    “They figure out the the right Brinks truck in the Hollywood chase scene. based on tire size because Seth Green apparently has some incredible computer program.”
    unknown · 1:33:42
  5. pick Blowing up the exact spot on Hollywood Boulevard
    “Um, Blowing up the exact square spot in Hollywood Boulevard.”
    unknown · 1:34:04
  6. pick A roadside party at the border after the Venice gold theft
    “I was just going to say, if you stole a bunch of gold from Venice. Would you really have a roadside party at the border for Austria and then get on a one lane road?”
    unknown · 1:34:47

Sequel, prequel, prestige TV · The sequel, prequel or prestige TV show they would make.

  1. pick The Brazilian Job
    “I'd watch the Brazilians, right?”
    unknown · 1:35:21
  2. pick A prestige TV show about Donald Sutherland's character
    “I watched a full prestige TV show about Donald Sutherland.”
    unknown · 1:35:24
  3. pick A Stella Bridger series as an international safe cracker
    “You could have done the Stella Bridger series as like an international safe cracker, and that could have been a whole series.”
    unknown · 1:35:43

Is this movie better with · A running bit asking whether the movie would be better with some other character dropped in.

  1. pick Derek from American History X: Quotes the mini Coopers versus helicopters bet from that movie.
    “Derek from American History X.”
    Chris Ryan · 1:37:39

Oscar pick · Who should have been nominated or won.

  1. pick A stunt driver Oscar for stunts
    “So what about the is there like a stunt driver, Oscar?”
    Craig Horlbeck · 1:38:55

Unanswered questions · Questions the movie leaves open.

  1. pick How little the take was compared to the damage
    “I didn't really have any other than we made $24000000 and cause $490000 of damage.”
    unknown · 1:39:04
  2. pick No heat on the burner phones: Most Def warns of heat on the lines, but no one is looking for them.
    “Most Def gets them cell phones at the beginning of the LA portion and he's like, you know, we'll have to switch these out a lot because there're going to be heat on these lines and like there's no heat on the lines.”
    unknown · 1:39:18
  3. pick Who here is better at their job than their Ocean's Eleven counterpart: Handsome Rob, the driver, is the only one named who could be on Danny's crew.
    “Is there anybody in this movie that you think is better at their respective job than their counterpart in the Ocean's Eleven?”
    unknown · 1:39:33

Memorabilia · A prop from the movie they would want to own.

  1. pick A gold brick
    “Memorabilia you'd want from this movie is easy. It's gotta be a gold brick.”
    unknown · 1:40:26

Best worst life lesson · The best life lesson in the movie.

  1. pick Trust everyone, just don't trust the devil inside them
    “It's got to be the devil inside, right?”
    unknown · 1:40:52

Who won the movie · Who or what came out ahead in the movie.

  1. winner Ed Norton: The funniest performance to revisit, seeing him annoyed in the movie.
    “Might be Ed Norton.”
    unknown · 1:41:03
  2. winner The Mini Coopers: Calls it the first inanimate object to win the movie.
    “I think it's the 1st inanimate object to win the movie, and it's the Binnie Coopers win the movie.”
    Craig Horlbeck · 1:41:21

Joey Pants Award · Best that guy.

  1. nominee Skinny Pete
    “Skinny pizza, that guy, because I just know him as skinny Pete.”
    unknown · 1:26:19
  2. nominee Scott Adsit as the actor rehearsing in traffic
    “Scott adds it from 30 Rock is the actor rehearsing in traffic.”
    unknown · 1:26:22
  3. nominee Boris Krutenog as Yevin the Ukrainian: Also said to be in The Hunt for Red October.
    “Boris Krutenog is Yevin, the Ukrainian, he was in Hunt for in October.”
    unknown · 1:26:28
  4. winner Oscar from The Office as the security guard: The one that jumped out at the host.
    “And Oscar from the office is the security guard.”
    unknown · 1:26:36
  5. nominee Sean Fanning: Mugs for the camera.
    “And he mugs for the camera.”
    unknown · 1:26:52
  6. nominee Donald Sutherland: Put up as a joke contender since he is only in the movie for 15 minutes.
    “Sutherland. Yeah. It's like in for 15 minutes.”
    unknown · 1:26:56

Who talked about it

Blank Check — Patreon

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

No line says it drew on another film or person.

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

Fight Club: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (business trade): The Italian Job → Fight Club. Paramount let Norton do Fight Club on condition he do The Italian Job.
    “He gets permission to appear in this movie with Italian job as the price,”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:37:50 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)

The Incredible Hulk: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Italian Job → The Incredible Hulk. Norton gives either a gun-to-the-head performance (Italian Job) or 110 percent; this is the one film that feels uneven.
    “There are movies like the Italian job where like Paramount forced him to be in it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:15:40 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (contrast): The Italian Job → The Incredible Hulk. Norton gives either a gun-to-the-head performance (Italian Job) or 110 percent; this is the one film that feels uneven.
    “There are movies like the Italian job where like Paramount forced him to be in it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:15:40 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

unmapped (1)

  1. unmapped (business trade): The Italian Job → Fight Club. Paramount let Norton do Fight Club on condition he do The Italian Job.
    “He gets permission to appear in this movie with Italian job as the price,”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:37:50 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)

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