2010: The Year We Make Contact (1984)

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Wikidata Q211784, film, IMDb tt0086837, TMDB 4437: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only film by that title; 1 more episode agrees.

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Who talked about it

Blank Check with Griffin & David

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The Big Picture

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

2001: A Space Odyssey: 5 lines the host's read ×5

  1. lineage (sequel): 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ 2010: The Year We Make Contact (the host's read). The film has a sequel, and Clarke wrote three sequel novels.
    “Obviously, the sequel exists.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:11:43 · Jordan Hoffman (0.70 sure it was them)

2010: Odyssey Two (novel): 3 lines the maker said so ×2 the host's read ×1

  1. theme (changed character nationality): 2010: Odyssey Two (novel) ⇒ 2010: The Year We Make Contact (the maker said so). Dr. Chandra is Indian in the book; the film made him American, per Balaban.
    “Bob Balaban said they changed his nationalities from Indian to American because they thought it would be confusing to have another nationality who've got the Russians and the Americans up there.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:28:11 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Close Encounters of the Third Kind: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (tip of the hat): Close Encounters of the Third Kind ⇒ 2010: The Year We Make Contact (the host's read). Casting Balaban reads as a nod to Close Encounters; the speaker finds 2010 more in its shadow than 2001's.
    “And the Balaban casting feels like a real tip of the hat to that.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:28:46 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

2001: A Space Odyssey: 5 lines lineage ×3 contrast ×1 craft ×1

  1. lineage (sequel): 2001: A Space Odyssey → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. The film has a sequel, and Clarke wrote three sequel novels.
    “Obviously, the sequel exists.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:11:43 · Jordan Hoffman (0.70 sure it was them)

2010: Odyssey Two (novel): 3 lines lineage ×1 unmapped ×1 theme ×1

  1. theme (changed character nationality): 2010: Odyssey Two (novel) → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Dr. Chandra is Indian in the book; the film made him American, per Balaban.
    “Bob Balaban said they changed his nationalities from Indian to American because they thought it would be confusing to have another nationality who've got the Russians and the Americans up there.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:28:11 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Peter Hyams: 2 lines people ×2

  1. people (director): Peter Hyams → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Hyams directed 2010 and was another director who almost made Starman.
    “Peter Heim's another person who almost directed Starman.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 2:22:24 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Amadeus: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (Oscar rival): Amadeus → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. 2010 lost costume design, makeup, sound and art direction to Amadeus, and visual effects to Temple of Doom.
    “End sound and art direction to all to Amadeus.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:09:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Arthur C. Clarke: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (making-of book): Arthur C. Clarke → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Clarke wrote The Odyssey File about making 2010, including email correspondence with director Peter Hyams.
    “wrote a really fun book called a 2010 Odyssey File, about the making of 2010”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:46:29 · Jordan Hoffman (0.70 sure it was them)

Beverly Hills Cop: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (box-office rival): Beverly Hills Cop → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. On opening weekend 2010 was number two behind Beverly Hills Cop.
    “Beverly Hills got number one.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:11:36 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Close Encounters of the Third Kind: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (tip of the hat): Close Encounters of the Third Kind → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Casting Balaban reads as a nod to Close Encounters; the speaker finds 2010 more in its shadow than 2001's.
    “And the Balaban casting feels like a real tip of the hat to that.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:28:46 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Creed: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (payoff comparison): 2010: The Year We Make Contact → Creed. The Zarathustra cue at the end is likened to Gonna Fly Now at the end of Creed: a movie that earned the right to the cue.
    “It almost feels like fucking gonna fly now playing at the end of Creed where you're like, the movie's worked this hard to earn the right.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:07:48 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Don't Worry Darling: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (explainer joke): 2010: The Year We Make Contact → Don't Worry Darling. A joke that 2010 is about explainer writers trying to work out what happened in the previous film, like clickbait for Don't Worry Darling's ending.
    “What I didn't realize is this movie's pretty much about the clickbait writers trying to figure out how to explain the thing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:08:55 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

For All Mankind: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (communication-delay realism): For All Mankind → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. The speaker points to For All Mankind's depiction of long Mars-mission message delays as more realistic than 2010's instant comms.
    “they can't have a conversation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:59:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Hannibal: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (late-sequel parallel): Hannibal → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. The sequel arriving a decade-plus later after audiences demanded it, over the original team's refusal, is called a real Hannibal situation.
    “It's like a real Hannibal situation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:18:44 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (Oscar rival): Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. 2010 lost visual effects to Temple of Doom.
    “And then it lost visual effects to Temple of Doom.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:09:52 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Interstellar: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (vibe comparison): 2010: The Year We Make Contact → Interstellar. The speaker finds 2010 closer in feel to Interstellar than to 2001.
    “I found it interesting that in a lot of ways this movie feels less like dumb 2001 to me and more like dumb interstellar.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:06:48 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Jaws: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (casting echo): Jaws → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Balaban from Close Encounters plus Scheider from Jaws makes 2010 a less sentimental, more serious-minded Spielberg.
    “I mean, you have, you have Balaban and you have Schider off of Jaws.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:28:49 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Metropolis: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (ending comparison): 2010: The Year We Make Contact → Metropolis. The ending that tells you directly what to take from it is compared to Metropolis.
    “It's very metropolis where it's like, this sci-fi movie is going to end with us directly telling you what the takeaway is”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:05:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Outland: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (same director / setting): Outland → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. MGM went to Hyams because he had just made Outland, which is set on Io, a place that plays a role in 2010.
    “Outland is the Sean Connery Space Western that's set on IO, which plays a role in this movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:19:36 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (slow sci-fi after Star Wars): Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Films like 2010, Close Encounters, The Black Hole and Star Trek TMP went back to slow, process-based hard sci-fi after Star Wars made space fast.
    “and that this wave of movies like 2010”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:51:56 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Steven Spielberg: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (Spielberg comparison): Steven Spielberg → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. 2010 is likened to a less sentimental, more serious-minded Spielberg.
    “Like this is very much kind of doing a less sentimental, more serious-minded Spielberg.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:28:53 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

The Silence of the Lambs: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (late-sequel parallel): The Silence of the Lambs → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Jokes that Clarke's sequel is a straightforward explainer while Thomas Harris went for the most hateful story imaginable.
    “But of course, I would say Arthur C. Clark wrote a pretty sort of straightforward sci-fi sequel book that does try to explain what was going on in 2001, whereas Thomas Harris ripped his guts open”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:18:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (contrast): 2010: The Year We Make Contact → 2001: A Space Odyssey. 2010 tries to answer Kubrick's questions and is more loyal to Arthur C. Clarke's ideas.
    “it's much more... As I remember loyal to Arthur C. Clark's science fiction ideas”
    The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:26:18 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them)

craft (1)

  1. craft (borrowed music): 2010: The Year We Make Contact → 2001: A Space Odyssey. The only thing 2010 borrows from 2001, apart from plotting, is the music, including the Zarathustra drop at the end.
    “Yeah, is the music.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:07:40 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

industry (3)

  1. industry (Oscar rival): Amadeus → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. 2010 lost costume design, makeup, sound and art direction to Amadeus, and visual effects to Temple of Doom.
    “End sound and art direction to all to Amadeus.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:09:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. industry (Oscar rival): Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. 2010 lost visual effects to Temple of Doom.
    “And then it lost visual effects to Temple of Doom.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:09:52 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. industry (box-office rival): Beverly Hills Cop → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. On opening weekend 2010 was number two behind Beverly Hills Cop.
    “Beverly Hills got number one.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:11:36 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

lineage (6)

  1. lineage (lineage): 2010: The Year We Make Contact → 2001: A Space Odyssey. 2010 was made because the novel sequel existed, a movie made just because they had to.
    “Because Arthur C. Clark had come out with a 2010 novel.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 2:54:20 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (sequel): 2001: A Space Odyssey → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. 2010 is the sequel to 2001; the speaker's reaction to the Kubrick film is the benchmark throughout.
    “And I said, oh, you know, 2010, the sequel to 2001 and they were like, the what?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:02:34 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (adaptation): 2010: Odyssey Two (novel) → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. The film exists because Clarke published the sequel novel.
    “Arthur C. Clark, of course, did publish a sequel to 2001 called 2010.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:17:20 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. lineage (late-sequel parallel): Hannibal → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. The sequel arriving a decade-plus later after audiences demanded it, over the original team's refusal, is called a real Hannibal situation.
    “It's like a real Hannibal situation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:18:44 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  5. lineage (late-sequel parallel): The Silence of the Lambs → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Jokes that Clarke's sequel is a straightforward explainer while Thomas Harris went for the most hateful story imaginable.
    “But of course, I would say Arthur C. Clark wrote a pretty sort of straightforward sci-fi sequel book that does try to explain what was going on in 2001, whereas Thomas Harris ripped his guts open”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:18:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. lineage (sequel): 2001: A Space Odyssey → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. The film has a sequel, and Clarke wrote three sequel novels.
    “Obviously, the sequel exists.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:11:43 · Jordan Hoffman (0.70 sure it was them)

people (4)

  1. people (director): Peter Hyams → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Hyams directed 2010 and was another director who almost made Starman.
    “Peter Heim's another person who almost directed Starman.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 2:22:24 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. people (director-DP-writer-producer): Peter Hyams → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Hyams wrote, produced, shot, and directed 2010, an unusual degree of control.
    “Also known as 2010 is a 1984 science fiction film, written, produced, shot, and directed by Peter Himes.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:10:52 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  3. people (same director / setting): Outland → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. MGM went to Hyams because he had just made Outland, which is set on Io, a place that plays a role in 2010.
    “Outland is the Sean Connery Space Western that's set on IO, which plays a role in this movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:19:36 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  4. people (casting echo): Jaws → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Balaban from Close Encounters plus Scheider from Jaws makes 2010 a less sentimental, more serious-minded Spielberg.
    “I mean, you have, you have Balaban and you have Schider off of Jaws.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:28:49 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

theme (5)

  1. theme (vibe comparison): 2010: The Year We Make Contact → Interstellar. The speaker finds 2010 closer in feel to Interstellar than to 2001.
    “I found it interesting that in a lot of ways this movie feels less like dumb 2001 to me and more like dumb interstellar.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:06:48 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. theme (payoff comparison): 2010: The Year We Make Contact → Creed. The Zarathustra cue at the end is likened to Gonna Fly Now at the end of Creed: a movie that earned the right to the cue.
    “It almost feels like fucking gonna fly now playing at the end of Creed where you're like, the movie's worked this hard to earn the right.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:07:48 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  3. theme (changed character nationality): 2010: Odyssey Two (novel) → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Dr. Chandra is Indian in the book; the film made him American, per Balaban.
    “Bob Balaban said they changed his nationalities from Indian to American because they thought it would be confusing to have another nationality who've got the Russians and the Americans up there.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:28:11 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. theme (Spielberg comparison): Steven Spielberg → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. 2010 is likened to a less sentimental, more serious-minded Spielberg.
    “Like this is very much kind of doing a less sentimental, more serious-minded Spielberg.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:28:53 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  5. theme (ending comparison): 2010: The Year We Make Contact → Metropolis. The ending that tells you directly what to take from it is compared to Metropolis.
    “It's very metropolis where it's like, this sci-fi movie is going to end with us directly telling you what the takeaway is”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:05:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

unmapped (6)

  1. unmapped (explainer joke): 2010: The Year We Make Contact → Don't Worry Darling. A joke that 2010 is about explainer writers trying to work out what happened in the previous film, like clickbait for Don't Worry Darling's ending.
    “What I didn't realize is this movie's pretty much about the clickbait writers trying to figure out how to explain the thing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:08:55 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (changes from the book): 2010: Odyssey Two (novel) → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Hyams demanded changes to play up US-Soviet politics, which the novel does not treat as a source of tension.
    “Two, there's changes I want to make to play up the politics of the movie because in the novel, the U.S. Soviet thing is not like a source of tension.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:21:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (tip of the hat): Close Encounters of the Third Kind → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Casting Balaban reads as a nod to Close Encounters; the speaker finds 2010 more in its shadow than 2001's.
    “And the Balaban casting feels like a real tip of the hat to that.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:28:46 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (slow sci-fi after Star Wars): Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Films like 2010, Close Encounters, The Black Hole and Star Trek TMP went back to slow, process-based hard sci-fi after Star Wars made space fast.
    “and that this wave of movies like 2010”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:51:56 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (communication-delay realism): For All Mankind → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. The speaker points to For All Mankind's depiction of long Mars-mission message delays as more realistic than 2010's instant comms.
    “they can't have a conversation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:59:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. unmapped (making-of book): Arthur C. Clarke → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Clarke wrote The Odyssey File about making 2010, including email correspondence with director Peter Hyams.
    “wrote a really fun book called a 2010 Odyssey File, about the making of 2010”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:46:29 · Jordan Hoffman (0.70 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about 2010: The Year We Make Contact: The hosts say this is basically a movie about screen-rant explainer writers trying to work out the ending of the first film.
    “What I didn't realize is this movie's pretty much about the clickbait writers trying to figure out how to explain the thing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:08:55 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about 2010: The Year We Make Contact: Europa is the breakout star of the movie, and the hosts have a running bit about who loves it most.
    “I've always loved how Europa looks like a skating rink that never got cleaned.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:44:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about 2010: The Year We Make Contact: Dave Bowman's ghost brushes his mother's hair in a nursing home, shot with the invisible-man technique.
    “Yes. He, um, sort of goes to see like his mother in a nursing home and like, brushes her hair, the old, uh, disembodied brush on his strings.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:54:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about 2010: The Year We Make Contact: The film's most memed line is HAL's message about Europa.
    “All these worlds are yours, except Europa, attempt no landing there.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:05:08 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about 2010: The Year We Make Contact: A Time magazine cover prop in the film shows Kubrick as a Soviet dictator, a gag in the frame that the speaker rewound to catch.
    “I went back and rewound it to clock and I was like, that's a nice little subtle thing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:07:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about 2010: The Year We Make Contact: The sequel was a modest hit: it opened at number two behind Beverly Hills Cop on 1100 screens, grossed about $40M and got five Oscar nominations.
    “On December 7th, 1984, it opened in theaters. on 1100 screens.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:10:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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