Beverly Hills Cop (1984)

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Wikidata Q722267, film, IMDb tt0086960, TMDB 90: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Bronson Pinchot as actor (‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey); 10 more episodes agree.

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In the store as #565, Beverly Hills Cop (1984).

The Rewatchables' awards

From ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan (2019-09-17):

Most rewatchable scene

  1. pick Axel checks into the Beverly Palm Hotel with the Rolling Stone / Michael Jackson story
    “Axel arrives in Beverly Hills and checks in the hotel.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:32:51
  2. pick Axel meets Jenny Summers at the gallery and gets Serge, the whole stretch right after the hotel
    “And this is just an almost impeccable 9 minutes of comedy.”
    unknown · 0:35:42
  3. pick The banana in the tailpipe and ordering room service in the suite
    “The banana and tailpipe, the actual ordering them room service.”
    unknown · 0:37:00
  4. pick The strip joint scene that leads into the super cop monologue
    “I have the strip joint scene that leads to the super cops monologue, which is where everybody's cracking up, which is really...”
    unknown · 0:37:30
  5. pick Axel getting chewed out by Inspector Todd, with Cobb's 'This is not my locker' bit
    “Axel getting chewed out by Cobb.”
    unknown · 0:39:10
  6. pick Axel and Mikey Tandino playing pool, sitting at the bar and going back to his apartment
    “Those are, that's my rewatchable sequence is the sequence where like they get together, play pool, sit at the bar, and go back to his apartment.”
    Chris Ryan · 0:40:43
  7. floated Axel at the customs facility, asking about the Porsche and the match
    “Also, did you put in the axle at the customs facility?”
    unknown · 0:41:18
  8. floated The opening Detroit cigarette truck chase
    “The chase is really, it's fine, but if I'm flipping channels, I'm so excited if I know he's about to get to Beverly Hills, that's when I'm ready.”
    unknown · 0:32:00

Ebert Review · The reading of Roger Ebert's review of the film.

  1. pick Beverly Hills Cop: Ebert gave it 2.5 stars and called it a victim of the 'Star Magic Syndrome'.
    “He said Eddie Murphy looks like the latest victim of the Star Magic Syndrome, in which it is assumed that a movie will be a hit simply because it stars enormously talented person.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:30:12

Aged Best · What in the movie has held up best.

  1. pick Jenny Summers' red Mercedes convertible: The car and the shot of it.
    “And also the fact the red Mercedes-Benz convertible.”
    unknown · 0:46:19
  2. pick The soundtrack and score: The hits on the soundtrack and the Faltermeyer score.
    “The soundtrack, which includes the heat is on Neutron Dance, stir it up and nasty girl.”
    unknown · 0:47:44
  3. pick The Mumford Phys Ed t-shirt: The Mumford shirt and Axel's cropped sweatshirts as iconic looks.
    “His, the, uh, almost as iconic as the Mumford Phiz Ed department t-shirt is his cropped sweatshirts that he wears for most of the movie.”
    unknown · 0:49:14
  4. pick Taggart and Rosewood: The pair lays the groundwork for their stronger work in the sequel.
    “Well, it aged the best because it lays the groundwork for 2 heroic performances in Beverly Hills cop, too.”
    unknown · 0:49:53
  5. pick Bronson Pinchot as Serge: Not falling for the banana in the tailpipe line.
    “Yes. Um, I also like the performance by the not going to fall for the banana, the tailpipe guy, just because he also has earlier, he does his best.”
    unknown · 0:50:42
  6. pick Lisa Eilbacher as Jenny Summers: Hosts agree to put her back in the list; they land on Eilbacher Mountain.
    “I'm willing to put her back in again.”
    Bill Simmons · 0:51:16

Aged Worst · What in the movie has held up worst.

  1. pick The slow first 19 minutes: The opening could have moved faster.
    “I feel like the 1st 19 minutes could have zipped by a little faster.”
    unknown · 0:51:33
  2. pick 1984 stunt work and masking: Obvious stunt doubles and tumbling action that has gone out of style.
    “In general, I would say that 1984 was not our peak of masking stunt work.”
    unknown · 0:51:36
  3. pick Victor Maitland's reaction to Mikey's death: The villain's reaction is played badly.
    “Well, speaking of the window, I had Victor Maitland's reaction to Mikey's death.”
    unknown · 0:52:38
  4. pick The movie's homophobia: Offered as an aged-worst item, though the hosts argue it is less homophobic than remembered, with the hepatitis B bit the low point.
    “I think Eddie and the hepatitis B thing probably would.”
    unknown · 0:55:24
  5. pick Taggart punching Axel: Floated given how LA police are seen now; the hosts note he apologizes right after.
    “Would you put Taggart punching Axel in the Woods age the worst?”
    unknown · 0:56:24
  6. pick Maitland's bodyguards: None of the six can shoot.
    “Maitland's bodyguards are bad, bad, age badly just because all of them were terrible.”
    unknown · 0:56:37
  7. pick Name-dropping Rolling Stone and Michael Jackson to get the hotel room: The ruse would not work 35 years later; magazines also stand in for phones throughout.
    “He decides to get in the Beverly palm by name dropping that A, he writes for Rolling Stone and B, he's doing a profile on Michael Jackson.”
    unknown · 0:59:23

Casting What Ifs · Almost-castings and other stars who could have led the movie.

  1. pick Mickey Rourke as Axel Foley: Signed a holding contract, then left; Simpson tore his picture out of a magazine.
    “Casting what ifs, you mentioned Mickey work.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:01:05
  2. pick Sylvester Stallone as Axel Foley: Signed for the lead and rewrote it as a straight action film before leaving two weeks before filming.
    “Stallone was signed up for the lead.”
    unknown · 1:03:19
  3. pick Top Gun: Answer to which 80s movie they wish Eddie had starred in.
    “Top Gun.”
    unknown · 1:11:40

Best That Guy (Joey Pants Award) · The best 'that guy' character actor in the movie.

  1. nominee Jonathan Banks: First-ballot Hall of Fame that guy, before Breaking Bad made him known by name.
    “This is tough because Jonathan Banks was like an all-time classic, that guy forever.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:03:45
  2. nominee Ronny Cox as Bogomil: Was that guy for a long stretch before becoming known as Ronny Cox.
    “Ronnie Cox was also that guy.”
    unknown · 1:04:06
  3. winner James Russo as Mikey Tandino: Seen as the winner; nobody knew his name.
    “I think James Russo is kind of the winner of this.”
    Chris Ryan · 1:04:23
  4. winner Michael Champion: A guy in everything in the 80s, always the slimy sidekick to the heavy.
    “I'm going to go Michael Champion, who's actually one of the guys who's who works with Jonathan Banks in Maitland.”
    unknown · 1:04:28
  5. nominee Stephen Elliott as the chief: A TV-actor type; later called bad.
    “Stephen Elliott?”
    unknown · 1:05:16

Best Overacting (Saul Rubinek Award) · The biggest overacting in the film.

  1. nominee Stephen Elliott as the chief: Described as overacting in his scenes.
    “Oh, he's about to come up here as we head to the Salt Rubinck, they knew a word for overacting.”
    unknown · 1:05:22
  2. nominee Paul Reiser as Cobb: Said earlier to be the only one who goes over the top of Murphy, along with James Russo.
    “That's like the only time I think someone goes over the top of Murphy.”
    unknown · 0:39:44

Small Role Big Impact (Dion Waiters Award) · The small part that made the biggest impression.

  1. winner Bronson Pinchot as Serge: Two scenes, knocked them out of the park and got a sitcom out of it.
    “The Dion Waiters Award.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:05:34

Apex Mountain · What was at its peak in this movie, in the hosts' terms.

  1. pick Eddie Murphy: Covered earlier in the episode.
    “Apex Mound.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:09:43
  2. pick Lisa Eilbacher as Jenny Summers: Emphatically at her apex.
    “Lisa Elbacher, 100,000%.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:09:44
  3. pick LA cops: A joke that this was the apex for LA cops, which turned dramatically downhill after.
    “Possible Apex Madden.”
    unknown · 1:10:13
  4. pick Mumford High School: The Mumford apparel at its peak.
    “Mumford High School, definitely.”
    unknown · 1:10:34
  5. pick Harold Faltermeyer: The composer at his peak.
    “Harold Faltimeyer, yes.”
    unknown · 1:10:38
  6. pick Kent cigarettes: Kent at its peak.
    “And then Kent Cigarettes, for sure.”
    unknown · 1:10:40

Picking Nits · Nitpicks about the plot and logic of a movie they like.

  1. pick Mikey stealing the bearer bonds and showing them to a cop: Why Mikey stole them, why they tracked him to Detroit, and why he shows them to Axel right away.
    “Mikey was a security guard in Beverly Hills, who just ended up stealing a bunch of German bear bronze.”
    unknown · 1:12:46
  2. pick Guns in the strip joint under long coats: Hard to believe two men with leather dusters could walk in unnoticed.
    “Is it that easy to bring guns in a strip joint?”
    unknown · 1:14:26
  3. pick Axel's car driving from Detroit to Los Angeles: Doubts the car could make the drive, and that they would not buy him a plane ticket back.
    “Oh, I just, I don't think that Axel's car could have made the drive from Detroit to Los Angeles.”
    unknown · 1:15:00
  4. pick Jenny Summers' income as Jenny Summers: How much an art gallery job pays for such nice clothes and car; the hosts wonder if she was a drug dealer.
    “I was going to do this nitpick, but I did spend some time wondering how much Jenny Summers made running the art gallery because she had nice clothes and that car was fucking nice.”
    unknown · 1:15:22

Best Quote · The best lines in the movie.

  1. pick "Take those bananas": Damon Wayans' line at the Maitre D stand.
    “Best quote, take those bananas.”
    Bill Simmons · 1:15:43
  2. pick "This is not my locker" as Cobb: Offered as an additional pick.
    “Aside from this is not my locker.”
    unknown · 1:16:04
  3. pick Axel asking the valet to park the car in a good spot: Line about everything that happened the last time he parked there.
    “When he pulls up to the valley, he goes, can you put this in a good spot because all this shit happened the last time I parked here.”
    unknown · 1:16:09
  4. pick "The super cop thing was working really well": How Eddie sells the beat after the cops contradict his story.
    “We didn't give him credit for how he sold when the super cop scene.”
    unknown · 1:16:19

Unanswerable questions · Two questions the hosts argue without a firm answer.

  1. pick Beverly Hills Cop II: Says Cop 2 is the better movie, though he is more fond of the first for what it meant for Eddie's arc.
    “I think that I think Coptay was better.”
    Chris Ryan · 1:16:49
  2. pick Axel Foley as Axel Foley: Answers 'was Axel Foley gay' yes, reading the film as about a gay man whose former lover is killed.
    “And I don't know what their problem is, because I watched this movie, and it's to me a movie about a gay black man who works for the police department of Detroit, whose former best friend slash probably lover in, or like the hookup buddy or what, I don't know what, gets killed and goes on a mission to find him.”
    Wesley Morris · 1:20:37

Who Won the Movie · Who came out on top by the end of the movie.

  1. winner Lisa Eilbacher as Jenny Summers: Agreed with enthusiasm.
    “Yeah, definitely Owlbacher.”
    unknown · 1:31:32
  2. winner Eddie Murphy: Eddie wins his own movie.
    “Eddie Murphy wins his own.”
    unknown · 1:31:40
  3. nominee Ronny Cox as Bogomil: Praised as good and not given enough love.
    “Good job by Ronnie Cox.”
    unknown · 1:31:45

Who talked about it

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The Rewatchables

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

1970s cop movies: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (tone lineage): 1970s cop movies ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the host's read). The first film feels like an extension of 70s cop movies, especially the Detroit material, while the sequel feels glossy and 80s.
    “There's a world in which that almost feels like an extension of like 70s cop movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:07:52 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them)

In the Heat of the Night: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): In the Heat of the Night ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the host's read). Described as In the Heat of the Night meets Beverly Hills; both are fish-out-of-water movies.
    “said that the Beverly Hills Cop is essentially in the heat of the night meets Beverly Hills.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:27:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Michael Eisner: 1 line the maker said so ×1

  1. industry (industry): Michael Eisner ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the maker said so: a podcast the speaker did with Eisner). Eisner claims he came up with the idea after a speeding ticket in 1975; Simpson claimed it from 1977.
    “in 1975, he got a speeding ticket with a cop, thought the guy was a little bit of a dick”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:06:23 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

The French Connection: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The French Connection ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the host's read). Recast Popeye Doyle as Axel Foley and the movie barely changes; the apartments are essentially the same.
    “Like you take the French connection and you recast Dean Hackman's, you make Popeye Doyle, Axel Foley.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:23:34 · Wesley Morris (0.70 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

Shawn Ryan: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. programming (programming): Beverly Hills Cop ⇒ Shawn Ryan (the host's read). Shawn Ryan tried a Beverly Hills Cop TV show; CBS made a pilot that didn't work.
    “that CBS did a pilot for and apparently it didn't work.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:09:37 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Connected to

Beverly Hills Cop II: 4 lines unmapped ×2 verdict ×1 craft ×1

  1. unmapped (rewatchability): Beverly Hills Cop II → Beverly Hills Cop. Not better, but more rewatchable than the first because sleeker with no dead spots or open questions.
    “I don't think it's a better movie, but I actually think it's a more rewatchable movie because it's sleeker.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:21:30 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

Mickey Rourke: 2 lines what-if ×2

  1. what-if (what-if): Beverly Hills Cop → Mickey Rourke. The Rourke gap: a stretch where he could have made Beverly Hills Cop, and instead did Eureka and Year of the Dragon.
    “you have the space where you could have had Beverly Hills Cop, and instead you have Eureka and you're the Dragon”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:01:56 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

1970s cop movies: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (tone lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → 1970s cop movies. The first film feels like an extension of 70s cop movies, especially the Detroit material, while the sequel feels glossy and 80s.
    “There's a world in which that almost feels like an extension of like 70s cop movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:07:52 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them)

2010: The Year We Make Contact: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (box-office rival): Beverly Hills Cop → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. On opening weekend 2010 was number two behind Beverly Hills Cop.
    “Beverly Hills got number one.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:11:36 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

48 Hrs.: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): 48 Hrs. → Beverly Hills Cop. The 48 Hrs. fight with Nolte is intense; BHC softens the formula so Eddie never gets roughed up.
    “the fight scene between Eddie and Nick Nolte and how when you watch that, you're like, he's going to fucking kill him.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:58:43 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Brandon T. Jackson: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): Beverly Hills Cop → Brandon T. Jackson. In the pilot Brandon T. Jackson played Axel Foley's son.
    “Brandon T. Jackson was Axel Foley's son.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:09:39 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Colors: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Beverly Hills Cop → Colors. A lighthearted LA-cop comedy could not be made a few years later: four years on it was Colors.
    “Well, 4 years later it was color.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:10:32 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

Commando: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Beverly Hills Cop → Commando. The same mansion appears in this film and Commando a year later.
    “used in this movie and the commando a year later.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:10:46 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Coogan's Bluff: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (plot comparison): Beverly Hills Cop → Coogan's Bluff. Scorsese would have heard the Beverly Hills Cop pitch as a retread of Don Siegel's Coogan's Bluff.
    “oh, you mean like the Don Siegel picture Coogan's bluff?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:49:52 · unknown host (0.35 sure it was them)

Detroit 9000: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → Detroit 9000. The Detroit opening is joked to be Detroit 3000 part two if you did not know the title.
    “It's Detroit 3000 part two.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:32:37 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Dirty Harry: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → Dirty Harry. The film plays closer to a 70s crime movie like Dirty Harry or The Outfit than to an 80s action blockbuster.
    “this movie's way closer to like Dirty Harry or the outfit or 7, like a 70s crime movie than it is like our idea of like 80s action blockbuster.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:08:03 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Do the Right Thing: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (tone contrast): Do the Right Thing → Beverly Hills Cop. Beverly Hills Cop is a comfort rewatch whose social import is extra-textual; Do the Right Thing is working hard to be important and disrupt comfort.
    “it's working hard to be important, and it's working hard to disrupt your feeling of ease and comfort.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Do The Right Thing’ With Sean Fennessey and Wesley Morris · 0:17:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.75 sure it was them)

Don Johnson: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Beverly Hills Cop → Don Johnson. The movie has pairs of men like Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas driving and looking, only more so.
    “entire scenes of Don Johnson and Philip, Michael Thomas driving”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:54:11 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Dune: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Dune → Beverly Hills Cop. Dune opened number 2 behind Beverly Hills Cop its opening weekend.
    “It is called Beverly Hills Cop.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 2:51:29 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Eddie Murphy: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (writing): Eddie Murphy → Beverly Hills Cop. Murphy effectively made up the movie's script, so he deserved an acting nod too.
    “Eddie Murphy wrote that whole movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 1:56:16 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)

Ferris Bueller's Day Off: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (comedic device): Ferris Bueller's Day Off → Beverly Hills Cop. Impersonating people over multiple phones to outwit annoying people peaked in Ferris, Beverly Hills Cop, and Fletch.
    “This was peak trying to outwit really fucking annoying people by pretending to be different characters and using different phones.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:37:17 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

Flashdance: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Beverly Hills Cop → Flashdance. Don Simpson made Flashdance and, asked what's next, said it was time for Beverly Hills Cop.
    “No, by the research, he made Flash Dance.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:07:50 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Fletch: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (marketing context): Fletch → Beverly Hills Cop. Once Beverly Hills Cop hit, Fletch could be sold as an action comedy with Faltermeyer music and two action sequences.
    “as soon as Beverly Hills cop hit, this movie made a lot more sense because you could put 2 big action sequences in it”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Fletch’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:43:48 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

In the Heat of the Night: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → In the Heat of the Night. Described as In the Heat of the Night meets Beverly Hills; both are fish-out-of-water movies.
    “said that the Beverly Hills Cop is essentially in the heat of the night meets Beverly Hills.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:27:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Jim Jarmusch: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Beverly Hills Cop → Jim Jarmusch. The cigarette-truck pair could have been a Jim Jarmusch movie if it ran an hour and a half.
    “if that cigarette deal had gone on for an hour and a half and it just been like a Jim Jarmish movie”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:32:08 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

John Wick: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Beverly Hills Cop → John Wick. Tumbling stunts like these are not what you see in John Wick.
    “That's usually not what you see in John Wick.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:52:32 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Magnum, P.I.: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Beverly Hills Cop → Magnum, P.I.. 1984 stunt work with masked doubles is on Magnum PI level.
    “we were still on like magnum PI level stunts.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:51:50 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

Mean Streets: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → Mean Streets. The Detroit opening with the two guys in the truck has a Mean Streets moment that distinguishes it from other 80s blockbusters.
    “I love the fact that they just like kind of have this mean streets moment in the beginning of this movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:32:22 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)

Michael Eisner: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Beverly Hills Cop → Michael Eisner. Eisner claims he came up with the idea after a speeding ticket in 1975; Simpson claimed it from 1977.
    “in 1975, he got a speeding ticket with a cop, thought the guy was a little bit of a dick”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:06:23 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Pauline Kael: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Beverly Hills Cop → Pauline Kael. Kael disliked the film because she saw Eddie's competence as a joke on white people.
    “his stardom was was offensive to her because he was using it in her opinion as a joke on white people and how dumb they were”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:18:06 · Wesley Morris (0.80 sure it was them)

Purple Rain: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Beverly Hills Cop → Purple Rain. 1984 context: Purple Rain and Prince became massive alongside this film and the Cosby Show.
    “You had Purple Rain and Prince become a massive star.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:24:43 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Richard Roundtree: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → Richard Roundtree. The film is called a blaxploitation movie with one of the few true movie-star performances, and Roundtree is named as the only true movie star of that era.
    “black exploitation movie with like one of the few movie star performances.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:08:19 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Roger Ebert: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Beverly Hills Cop → Roger Ebert. Ebert gave the film 2.5 stars, calling Eddie a victim of the Star Magic Syndrome.
    “Eddie Murphy looks like the latest victim of the Star Magic Syndrome, in which it is assumed that a movie will be a hit simply because it stars enormously talented person.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:30:12 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Shawn Ryan: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): Beverly Hills Cop → Shawn Ryan. Shawn Ryan tried a Beverly Hills Cop TV show; CBS made a pilot that didn't work.
    “that CBS did a pilot for and apparently it didn't work.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:09:37 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Stripes: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (genre): Beverly Hills Cop → Stripes. Grouped with Stripes, Ghostbusters and Blues Brothers as action comedies where a comic star changed what the movie was.
    “they could have made this movie either way, and they just decided to put Bill Murray or Eddie Murphy in it, and then it just completely changes it”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:21:53 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Sylvester Stallone: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Beverly Hills Cop → Sylvester Stallone. With Stallone in the cigarette truck the movie weighs 150 pounds more; the star changes the chemical properties of the movie.
    “It's just the movie weighs like 150 pounds more.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:17:17 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

Taken: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (surprising detail): Taken → Beverly Hills Cop. Taken's line about forgetting the weight of a gun is the kind of never-seen-before detail, like Beverly Hills Cop's gum wrapper trick.
    “Remember in Beverly Hills cop when they break in the house and he uses the gum wrapper to like disarm the center on the window.”
    The Rewatchables · 'Taken' With Bill Simmons and Shea Serrano · 0:31:03 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

The French Connection: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → The French Connection. Recast Popeye Doyle as Axel Foley and the movie barely changes; the apartments are essentially the same.
    “Like you take the French connection and you recast Dean Hackman's, you make Popeye Doyle, Axel Foley.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:23:34 · Wesley Morris (0.70 sure it was them)

The Golden Child: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Beverly Hills Cop → The Golden Child. After Axel Foley, The Golden Child was a disappointment.
    “Golden Child, uh, which was which was definitely a disappointment.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:12:13 · Wesley Morris (0.50 sure it was them)

The Goonies: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Beverly Hills Cop → The Goonies. Taggart and Rosewood's cropped sweatshirts echo the Josh Brolin Goonies look.
    “Because that was also like the Josh Brolin Goonies look.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:49:22 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

The Nutty Professor: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Beverly Hills Cop → The Nutty Professor. In BHC he is not the guy of The Nutty Professor; he has not yet morphed into a persona.
    “This isn't the guy who was in the nutty professor.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:06:43 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)

The Outfit: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → The Outfit. Grouped with Dirty Harry as a 70s crime-movie ancestor.
    “this movie's way closer to like Dirty Harry or the outfit or 7, like a 70s crime movie”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:08:03 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Working Girl: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (music): Working Girl → Beverly Hills Cop. 'I'm So Excited' is in Working Girl and Beverly Hills Cop: a ten-year pop-culture run.
    “It's in Beverly Hills Cop.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson · 1:27:52 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

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What was said about it, by kind

career (2)

  1. career (career): Beverly Hills Cop → The Nutty Professor. In BHC he is not the guy of The Nutty Professor; he has not yet morphed into a persona.
    “This isn't the guy who was in the nutty professor.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:06:43 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): Beverly Hills Cop → The Golden Child. After Axel Foley, The Golden Child was a disappointment.
    “Golden Child, uh, which was which was definitely a disappointment.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:12:13 · Wesley Morris (0.50 sure it was them)

contrast (3)

  1. contrast (contrast): Beverly Hills Cop → John Wick. Tumbling stunts like these are not what you see in John Wick.
    “That's usually not what you see in John Wick.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:52:32 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): 48 Hrs. → Beverly Hills Cop. The 48 Hrs. fight with Nolte is intense; BHC softens the formula so Eddie never gets roughed up.
    “the fight scene between Eddie and Nick Nolte and how when you watch that, you're like, he's going to fucking kill him.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:58:43 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (tone contrast): Do the Right Thing → Beverly Hills Cop. Beverly Hills Cop is a comfort rewatch whose social import is extra-textual; Do the Right Thing is working hard to be important and disrupt comfort.
    “it's working hard to be important, and it's working hard to disrupt your feeling of ease and comfort.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Do The Right Thing’ With Sean Fennessey and Wesley Morris · 0:17:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.75 sure it was them)

craft (5)

  1. craft (music): Working Girl → Beverly Hills Cop. 'I'm So Excited' is in Working Girl and Beverly Hills Cop: a ten-year pop-culture run.
    “It's in Beverly Hills Cop.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson · 1:27:52 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. craft (comedic device): Ferris Bueller's Day Off → Beverly Hills Cop. Impersonating people over multiple phones to outwit annoying people peaked in Ferris, Beverly Hills Cop, and Fletch.
    “This was peak trying to outwit really fucking annoying people by pretending to be different characters and using different phones.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:37:17 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
  3. craft (craft): Beverly Hills Cop → The Goonies. Taggart and Rosewood's cropped sweatshirts echo the Josh Brolin Goonies look.
    “Because that was also like the Josh Brolin Goonies look.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:49:22 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. craft (craft): Beverly Hills Cop → Magnum, P.I.. 1984 stunt work with masked doubles is on Magnum PI level.
    “we were still on like magnum PI level stunts.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:51:50 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. craft (craft): Beverly Hills Cop II → Beverly Hills Cop. The first is workaday in the Walter Hill style; the Tony Scott second is overcranked and stylized.
    “Walter Hill style, you know?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 1:01:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

industry (7)

  1. industry (industry): Dune → Beverly Hills Cop. Dune opened number 2 behind Beverly Hills Cop its opening weekend.
    “It is called Beverly Hills Cop.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 2:51:29 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. industry (marketing context): Fletch → Beverly Hills Cop. Once Beverly Hills Cop hit, Fletch could be sold as an action comedy with Faltermeyer music and two action sequences.
    “as soon as Beverly Hills cop hit, this movie made a lot more sense because you could put 2 big action sequences in it”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Fletch’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:43:48 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. industry (industry): Beverly Hills Cop → Michael Eisner. Eisner claims he came up with the idea after a speeding ticket in 1975; Simpson claimed it from 1977.
    “in 1975, he got a speeding ticket with a cop, thought the guy was a little bit of a dick”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:06:23 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  4. industry (industry): Beverly Hills Cop → Flashdance. Don Simpson made Flashdance and, asked what's next, said it was time for Beverly Hills Cop.
    “No, by the research, he made Flash Dance.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:07:50 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. industry (industry): Beverly Hills Cop → Colors. A lighthearted LA-cop comedy could not be made a few years later: four years on it was Colors.
    “Well, 4 years later it was color.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:10:32 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  6. industry (industry): Beverly Hills Cop → Commando. The same mansion appears in this film and Commando a year later.
    “used in this movie and the commando a year later.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:10:46 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  7. industry (box-office rival): Beverly Hills Cop → 2010: The Year We Make Contact. On opening weekend 2010 was number two behind Beverly Hills Cop.
    “Beverly Hills got number one.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 1:11:36 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

lineage (8)

  1. lineage (tone lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → 1970s cop movies. The first film feels like an extension of 70s cop movies, especially the Detroit material, while the sequel feels glossy and 80s.
    “There's a world in which that almost feels like an extension of like 70s cop movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:07:52 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → Dirty Harry. The film plays closer to a 70s crime movie like Dirty Harry or The Outfit than to an 80s action blockbuster.
    “this movie's way closer to like Dirty Harry or the outfit or 7, like a 70s crime movie than it is like our idea of like 80s action blockbuster.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:08:03 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → The Outfit. Grouped with Dirty Harry as a 70s crime-movie ancestor.
    “this movie's way closer to like Dirty Harry or the outfit or 7, like a 70s crime movie”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:08:03 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → Richard Roundtree. The film is called a blaxploitation movie with one of the few true movie-star performances, and Roundtree is named as the only true movie star of that era.
    “black exploitation movie with like one of the few movie star performances.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:08:19 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → The French Connection. Recast Popeye Doyle as Axel Foley and the movie barely changes; the apartments are essentially the same.
    “Like you take the French connection and you recast Dean Hackman's, you make Popeye Doyle, Axel Foley.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:23:34 · Wesley Morris (0.70 sure it was them)
  6. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → In the Heat of the Night. Described as In the Heat of the Night meets Beverly Hills; both are fish-out-of-water movies.
    “said that the Beverly Hills Cop is essentially in the heat of the night meets Beverly Hills.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:27:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  7. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → Mean Streets. The Detroit opening with the two guys in the truck has a Mean Streets moment that distinguishes it from other 80s blockbusters.
    “I love the fact that they just like kind of have this mean streets moment in the beginning of this movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:32:22 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  8. lineage (lineage): Beverly Hills Cop → Detroit 9000. The Detroit opening is joked to be Detroit 3000 part two if you did not know the title.
    “It's Detroit 3000 part two.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:32:37 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

programming (2)

  1. programming (programming): Beverly Hills Cop → Shawn Ryan. Shawn Ryan tried a Beverly Hills Cop TV show; CBS made a pilot that didn't work.
    “that CBS did a pilot for and apparently it didn't work.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:09:37 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. programming (programming): Beverly Hills Cop → Brandon T. Jackson. In the pilot Brandon T. Jackson played Axel Foley's son.
    “Brandon T. Jackson was Axel Foley's son.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:09:39 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

theme (4)

  1. theme (plot comparison): Beverly Hills Cop → Coogan's Bluff. Scorsese would have heard the Beverly Hills Cop pitch as a retread of Don Siegel's Coogan's Bluff.
    “oh, you mean like the Don Siegel picture Coogan's bluff?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:49:52 · unknown host (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. theme (genre): Beverly Hills Cop → Stripes. Grouped with Stripes, Ghostbusters and Blues Brothers as action comedies where a comic star changed what the movie was.
    “they could have made this movie either way, and they just decided to put Bill Murray or Eddie Murphy in it, and then it just completely changes it”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:21:53 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme): Beverly Hills Cop → Purple Rain. 1984 context: Purple Rain and Prince became massive alongside this film and the Cosby Show.
    “You had Purple Rain and Prince become a massive star.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:24:43 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. theme (theme): Beverly Hills Cop → Don Johnson. The movie has pairs of men like Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas driving and looking, only more so.
    “entire scenes of Don Johnson and Philip, Michael Thomas driving”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:54:11 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (4)

  1. unmapped (writing): Eddie Murphy → Beverly Hills Cop. Murphy effectively made up the movie's script, so he deserved an acting nod too.
    “Eddie Murphy wrote that whole movie.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 1:56:16 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (fish out of water vs showcase): Beverly Hills Cop → Beverly Hills Cop II. The first film has a coherent story and fish-out-of-water appeal; the sequel is a showcase of Eddie doing bits.
    “The 1st movie has like a much more coherent story.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:05:01 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (rewatchability): Beverly Hills Cop II → Beverly Hills Cop. Not better, but more rewatchable than the first because sleeker with no dead spots or open questions.
    “I don't think it's a better movie, but I actually think it's a more rewatchable movie because it's sleeker.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:21:30 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (surprising detail): Taken → Beverly Hills Cop. Taken's line about forgetting the weight of a gun is the kind of never-seen-before detail, like Beverly Hills Cop's gum wrapper trick.
    “Remember in Beverly Hills cop when they break in the house and he uses the gum wrapper to like disarm the center on the window.”
    The Rewatchables · 'Taken' With Bill Simmons and Shea Serrano · 0:31:03 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

verdict (3)

  1. verdict (verdict): Beverly Hills Cop → Roger Ebert. Ebert gave the film 2.5 stars, calling Eddie a victim of the Star Magic Syndrome.
    “Eddie Murphy looks like the latest victim of the Star Magic Syndrome, in which it is assumed that a movie will be a hit simply because it stars enormously talented person.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:30:12 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (verdict): Beverly Hills Cop → Beverly Hills Cop II. One speaker prefers Cop 2 as the better film but is more fond of Cop 1 for what it meant for Eddie.
    “I'm more fond of cop one because of everything it meant, like, for the Eddie Arc”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:16:51 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. verdict (verdict): Beverly Hills Cop → Pauline Kael. Kael disliked the film because she saw Eddie's competence as a joke on white people.
    “his stardom was was offensive to her because he was using it in her opinion as a joke on white people and how dumb they were”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:18:06 · Wesley Morris (0.80 sure it was them)

what-if (4)

  1. what-if (what-if): Beverly Hills Cop → Sylvester Stallone. With Stallone in the cigarette truck the movie weighs 150 pounds more; the star changes the chemical properties of the movie.
    “It's just the movie weighs like 150 pounds more.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:17:17 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. what-if (what-if): Beverly Hills Cop → Jim Jarmusch. The cigarette-truck pair could have been a Jim Jarmusch movie if it ran an hour and a half.
    “if that cigarette deal had gone on for an hour and a half and it just been like a Jim Jarmish movie”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:32:08 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. what-if (what-if): Beverly Hills Cop → Mickey Rourke. The Rourke gap: a stretch where he could have made Beverly Hills Cop, and instead did Eureka and Year of the Dragon.
    “you have the space where you could have had Beverly Hills Cop, and instead you have Eureka and you're the Dragon”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:01:56 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. what-if (what-if): Beverly Hills Cop → Mickey Rourke. After Stallone dropped out of Beverly Hills Cop, Rourke was offered the part, then Eddie Murphy came in and the film was rebuilt around his riffing.
    “Anyway, so Mickey Rourke says no.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:59:41 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: Scorsese was offered Beverly Hills Cop with Stallone and the pitch is lampooned as a Coogan's Bluff remake.
    “he was offered that. With Sylvester Stallone, you know, back when it was Sylvester Stallone.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:49:12 · unknown host (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: 1984: highest grossing R-rated film until The Matrix Reloaded in 2003 (19 years).
    “was the highest gross cigar rated film for 19 years until the Matrix reloaded in 2003.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:01:53 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: Eddie was hired about two weeks before shooting on a script that had been kicking around since the 70s, and he improvised large swaths of it. Brest said every time they hit a jam he asked Eddie for something.
    “every time we got into a jam, I turn to Eddie and say, can you come up with something?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:18:16 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: The banana-in-the-tailpipe line became a playground catchphrase, used at Little League, then revived when Tiger Woods arrived in 1997.
    “we used to say it at Little League.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:38:07 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: Mumford Phys Ed t-shirts were a mid-80s thing and a high school got flooded with requests; Cop 2's lion jacket was intentionally merchandised.
    “The Mumford Phiz ed t-shirts were really a thing in the mid 80s.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:48:52 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: Stunt doubles do not match: the truck driver has a mullet and the guy who jumps out has a bald spot, and Eddie going through plate glass is not Eddie.
    “is not the guy who's driving the truck.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:52:01 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: Magazines stand in for mobile phones: Rosewood reads Time, Banks reads National Geographic, Maitland flips through one in the gallery.
    “Jonathan Banks is reading National Geographic at one and it's just like, this is just what people did to pass time in 1984 was like, read a magazine.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:00:04 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: CBS made a pilot for a Beverly Hills Cop TV show from the creator of The Shield, with Brandon T. Jackson as Axel Foley's son. It didn't work.
    “The guy who created the shield, Sean Ryan?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:09:29 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  9. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: The mansion used in this movie reappears in Commando a year later.
    “Same house.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:10:50 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  10. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: Nobody understands what bearer bonds are in this movie, nor in Die Hard.
    “What is going on with bear bonds?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:13:45 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  11. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: The movie never lets Axel have a love scene, and the guys read Axel and Mikey as the love story. 'Is Axel Foley gay?' is described as a long-running Reddit conspiracy theory.
    “And the axe is Axel gay is like a long term, that's like a Reddit board conspiracy theory thing that's been going on for years.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:24:15 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  12. fun, about Beverly Hills Cop: The original ending, as relayed: Axel hangs up his jacket in Detroit, opens the closet, finds Mikey's shirt, and sniffs it.
    “and he sniffs it and then it ends.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:25:41 · Wesley Morris (0.60 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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