W. (2008)

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Wikidata Q959051, film, IMDb tt1175491, TMDB 10523: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only film by that title; 1 more episode agrees.

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In the store as #552, W. (2008).

Who talked about it

The Big Picture

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

No line says it drew on another film or person.

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

No Country for Old Men: 4 lines craft ×1 theme ×1 contrast ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. theme (era/theme): No Country for Old Men → W.. Both arrived as the Bush era wound down and prompted audiences to take stock of the 21st century.
    “No country for old men in W arrived just as the Bush era was winding down, and both movies prompted audiences to take stock of the 21st century so far.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:04:13 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

American Dreamz: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (failed Bush satires): W. → American Dreamz. A couple of high-profile movies had taken aim at the Bush administration and missed; American Dreamz is one.
    “During Bush's 2nd term, a couple of high profile movies had taken aim at his administration.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:26:32 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Frank Capra movie (unspecified): 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (character type): W. → Frank Capra movie (unspecified). Stone thought of Bush as a character out of a Frank Capra movie, a regular guy risen from alcoholic bum to most powerful figure.
    “Stone said he thought of Bush as a character out of a Frank Kabra movie.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:30:52 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Iron Man: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (cultural handoff): W. → Iron Man. After the Bush years, audiences wanted a new big-screen hero, Tony Stark, teasing the next episode.
    “Not to mention time for a bold, new big screen hero.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:45:08 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

Josh Brolin: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (casting): Josh Brolin → W.. Stone cast Brolin in W. right after No Country for Old Men; Brolin was at first not interested.
    “Stone then turned to Josh Brolin, who'd just come off no country for old men.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:31:43 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

Nixon: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (same director, tone contrast): W. → Nixon. Nixon was frenzied, impassioned and inflammatory; W. looks like an outlier next to it.
    “And when you look at the film next to a movie like Nixon, which was frenzied and impassioned, and sometimes inflammatory.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:38:59 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

Pinkville: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (replaced project): W. → Pinkville. W. got made because financing for Pinkville collapsed in the 2008 meltdown.
    “The money got pulled by a stock firm called Merrill Lynch at that time.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:25:56 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)

Rendition: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (political-film box-office context): W. → Rendition. Rendition came and went despite an A-list cast because audiences avoided politics at the movies, explaining Stone's financing trouble.
    “People were going to movie theaters to avoid the news, not to relive it.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:27:29 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

The Manchurian Candidate: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (Stone's view of Bush): W. → The Manchurian Candidate. Stone said Bush seemed programmed and controlled by others, like a Manchurian candidate.
    “There was a sense of a brainwashed president, I'd say, everything was very programmed, like a Manchurian candidate.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:00:44 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)

World Trade Center: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (director's run / follow-up): World Trade Center → W.. Stone had planned Pinkville to follow World Trade Center; when it collapsed he moved to W.
    “He jumped into his George W. Bush movie, which stone had had on the back burner for a while.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:26:10 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (1)

  1. career (replaced project): W. → Pinkville. W. got made because financing for Pinkville collapsed in the 2008 meltdown.
    “The money got pulled by a stock firm called Merrill Lynch at that time.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:25:56 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (contrast): No Country for Old Men → W.. Raftery implies Moss at least realizes he is in trouble; Bush in Stone's film never does.
    “Still, at least Lou Ellen Moss has a moment or 2 where he realizes he's in trouble.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:38:21 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

craft (1)

  1. craft (domino effect): W. → No Country for Old Men. Raftery links Stone's film to the Coens' as a different take on one man in over his head setting off destruction.
    “That kind of domino effect was explored in a very different movie from the year before.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:03:19 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

industry (1)

  1. industry (political-film box-office context): W. → Rendition. Rendition came and went despite an A-list cast because audiences avoided politics at the movies, explaining Stone's financing trouble.
    “People were going to movie theaters to avoid the news, not to relive it.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:27:29 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

people (3)

  1. people (director's run / follow-up): World Trade Center → W.. Stone had planned Pinkville to follow World Trade Center; when it collapsed he moved to W.
    “He jumped into his George W. Bush movie, which stone had had on the back burner for a while.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:26:10 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  2. people (casting): Josh Brolin → W.. Stone cast Brolin in W. right after No Country for Old Men; Brolin was at first not interested.
    “Stone then turned to Josh Brolin, who'd just come off no country for old men.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:31:43 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  3. people (same director, tone contrast): W. → Nixon. Nixon was frenzied, impassioned and inflammatory; W. looks like an outlier next to it.
    “And when you look at the film next to a movie like Nixon, which was frenzied and impassioned, and sometimes inflammatory.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:38:59 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

theme (2)

  1. theme (era/theme): No Country for Old Men → W.. Both arrived as the Bush era wound down and prompted audiences to take stock of the 21st century.
    “No country for old men in W arrived just as the Bush era was winding down, and both movies prompted audiences to take stock of the 21st century so far.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:04:13 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  2. theme (character type): W. → Frank Capra movie (unspecified). Stone thought of Bush as a character out of a Frank Capra movie, a regular guy risen from alcoholic bum to most powerful figure.
    “Stone said he thought of Bush as a character out of a Frank Kabra movie.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:30:52 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

unmapped (4)

  1. unmapped (Stone's view of Bush): W. → The Manchurian Candidate. Stone said Bush seemed programmed and controlled by others, like a Manchurian candidate.
    “There was a sense of a brainwashed president, I'd say, everything was very programmed, like a Manchurian candidate.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:00:44 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (failed Bush satires): W. → American Dreamz. A couple of high-profile movies had taken aim at the Bush administration and missed; American Dreamz is one.
    “During Bush's 2nd term, a couple of high profile movies had taken aim at his administration.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:26:32 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (title pun): W. → No Country for Old Men. On Obama beating McCain, Raftery quips that this was no country for old men.
    “And this was no country for, well, you know.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:43:38 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (cultural handoff): W. → Iron Man. After the Bush years, audiences wanted a new big-screen hero, Tony Stark, teasing the next episode.
    “Not to mention time for a bold, new big screen hero.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:45:08 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about W.: No studio would touch W.; it was financed overseas for about $27 million, including a Jackie Chan producing partner Stone met gambling in Macau.
    “He was a gambler. You'd go off to Macau, and we gambled, and he was quite a fun guy, a crazy guy.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:27:59 · Oliver Stone (0.85 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about W.: Stone wanted satire, not a takedown; Bush was a simple man while Nixon was three-dimensional.
    “Nixon had many, many issues, but it was a three-dimensional man, whereas George Bush was a very simple man.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:30:44 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about W.: Christian Bale was originally cast as Bush and studied him for months but dropped out when makeup could not make him W.
    “But he dropped out after it became clear that no amount of makeup would transform him into W.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:31:37 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about W.: Cheney sweet-talks Bush into war with a one-percent-chance lettuce and E. coli analogy.
    “There was a one% chance of you dying, sir.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:36:49 · Richard Dreyfuss (0.60 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about W.: The closing press-conference scene has Bush struggling for over a minute to name a lesson learned.
    “Bush struggles for more than a minute.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:38:01 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about W.: Bill Clinton, a friend of Stone's, gave Bush a copy; Bush reportedly said Josh had done a good job.
    “He just said that he was thought that Josh had done a good job.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:42:04 · Oliver Stone (0.85 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about W.: Stone says the film would have done better had he waited a few years for distance from the Bush years.
    “I believe, in retrospect, you need a little time away from Bush.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:42:27 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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