The Big Picture: 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished

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The extraction calls the show “Mission Accomplished (The Ringer / Spotify; delivered under the Big Picture feed)” and the episode “No. 5: No Country for Old Men, and W.”.

Hosts: Brian Raftery. Guests: Oliver Stone (archival interview), Gene Jones (archival interview), Barry Corbin (interview), Joel Coen (archival, Charlie Rose), Josh Brolin (archival, Charlie Rose).

Subject films: No Country for Old Men (2007), W. (2008).

On the transcript: Despite the Big Picture feed label, this is the Ringer series Mission Accomplished, narrated by Brian Raftery with archival interview clips; Fennessey and Dobbins appear only in credits. Ad reads (Coca-Cola) were skipped.

Films that came up

passing (13)

The Manchurian Candidate · Platoon · Born on the 4th of July · Wall Street · Blood Simple · Miller's Crossing · Fargo · WarGames · Northern Exposure · Tulsa King · The Doors · Frank Capra movie (unspecified) · Iron Man

compared (15)

JFK · There Will Be Blood · Michael Clayton · Atonement · The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford · The Diving Bell and the Butterfly · Juno · Million Dollar Baby · The Departed · Crash · Toy Story · World Trade Center · American Dreamz · Rendition · Nixon

subject (2)

W. · No Country for Old Men

anecdote (1)

Pinkville

Claims (24)

  1. unmapped (Stone's view of Bush): W. → The Manchurian Candidate. Stone said Bush seemed programmed and controlled by others, like a Manchurian candidate.
    “There was a sense of a brainwashed president, I'd say, everything was very programmed, like a Manchurian candidate.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:00:44 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. craft (domino effect): W. → No Country for Old Men. Raftery links Stone's film to the Coens' as a different take on one man in over his head setting off destruction.
    “That kind of domino effect was explored in a very different movie from the year before.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:03:19 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  3. theme (era/theme): No Country for Old Men → W.. Both arrived as the Bush era wound down and prompted audiences to take stock of the 21st century.
    “No country for old men in W arrived just as the Bush era was winding down, and both movies prompted audiences to take stock of the 21st century so far.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:04:13 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  4. industry (same Oscar year): No Country for Old Men → There Will Be Blood. Both were bleak 2007 contenders at the Oscars, where none of the nominees went down easy.
    “I mean, none of that year's contenders went down easy.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:06:29 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  5. verdict (Best Picture lineage): No Country for Old Men → Million Dollar Baby. Heavy Best Picture winners of the 2000s, but none as violent or relentless as No Country.
    “Million Dollar Baby, The Departed, Crash, but none were as violent, nor as relentless, as no country for old men.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:07:02 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  6. people (same directors): No Country for Old Men → Fargo. The Coens previously made the crime dramas Blood Simple, Miller's Crossing and Fargo.
    “The filmmaking brothers behind such classic crime dramas as Blood Simple, Miller's Crossing, and Fargo.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:07:19 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  7. lineage (adaptation): No Country for Old Men → Cormac McCarthy. The film adapts McCarthy's 2005 novel and the Coens refused to water it down.
    “You can tell the cones were determined not to water down McCarthy's book.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:07:47 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  8. craft (visual joke): Anton Chigurh → Toy Story. Raftery says Chigurh's terrible haircut reminds him of Slinky Dog.
    “it always kind of reminds me of Slinky Dog from Toy Story.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:09:31 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  9. people (performance type): Woody Harrelson → No Country for Old Men. Harrelson's role is a classic Woody performance of low-key menace.
    “This is a classic woody performance, by the way.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:09:45 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  10. theme (genre): No Country for Old Men → No Country for Old Men. It works as neo-Western, chase movie and killer-on-the-loose flick but is monumental for another reason.
    “A neo Western, a chase movie, a killer on the loose flick, and it does all of those things perfectly.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:10:17 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  11. craft (direction style): Gene Jones → Joel Coen. Jones says the Coens gave little direction and listened to the gas-station scene rather than watching it.
    “Neither Joel nor Ethan watched it while we shot it.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:13:41 · Gene Jones (0.90 sure it was them)
  12. craft (theme / 2007 mood): No Country for Old Men → No Country for Old Men. Its message of powerlessness fit audiences after 9/11, Katrina, Iraq and the economy.
    “911, Katrina, Iraq, the economy.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:20:57 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  13. unmapped (against type): World Trade Center → JFK. Stone's reputation for conspiracy (JFK) fueled worries about WTC, which turned out straight-faced and apolitical.
    “In the movie JFK, Stone had unleashed multiple conspiracy theories about the president's assassination.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:23:11 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  14. career (replaced project): W. → Pinkville. W. got made because financing for Pinkville collapsed in the 2008 meltdown.
    “The money got pulled by a stock firm called Merrill Lynch at that time.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:25:56 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)
  15. people (director's run / follow-up): World Trade Center → W.. Stone had planned Pinkville to follow World Trade Center; when it collapsed he moved to W.
    “He jumped into his George W. Bush movie, which stone had had on the back burner for a while.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:26:10 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  16. unmapped (failed Bush satires): W. → American Dreamz. A couple of high-profile movies had taken aim at the Bush administration and missed; American Dreamz is one.
    “During Bush's 2nd term, a couple of high profile movies had taken aim at his administration.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:26:32 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  17. industry (political-film box-office context): W. → Rendition. Rendition came and went despite an A-list cast because audiences avoided politics at the movies, explaining Stone's financing trouble.
    “People were going to movie theaters to avoid the news, not to relive it.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:27:29 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  18. theme (character type): W. → Frank Capra movie (unspecified). Stone thought of Bush as a character out of a Frank Capra movie, a regular guy risen from alcoholic bum to most powerful figure.
    “Stone said he thought of Bush as a character out of a Frank Kabra movie.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:30:52 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  19. people (casting): Josh Brolin → W.. Stone cast Brolin in W. right after No Country for Old Men; Brolin was at first not interested.
    “Stone then turned to Josh Brolin, who'd just come off no country for old men.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:31:43 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  20. people (same actor, two roles): Josh Brolin → Josh Brolin. Llewellyn Moss and W. Bush are both impulsive men who act and get in over their heads, though Moss at least realizes it.
    “They're both guys who act on impulse, and who get in way over their heads.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:38:17 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  21. contrast (contrast): No Country for Old Men → W.. Raftery implies Moss at least realizes he is in trouble; Bush in Stone's film never does.
    “Still, at least Lou Ellen Moss has a moment or 2 where he realizes he's in trouble.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:38:21 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  22. people (same director, tone contrast): W. → Nixon. Nixon was frenzied, impassioned and inflammatory; W. looks like an outlier next to it.
    “And when you look at the film next to a movie like Nixon, which was frenzied and impassioned, and sometimes inflammatory.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:38:59 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  23. unmapped (title pun): W. → No Country for Old Men. On Obama beating McCain, Raftery quips that this was no country for old men.
    “And this was no country for, well, you know.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:43:38 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  24. unmapped (cultural handoff): W. → Iron Man. After the Bush years, audiences wanted a new big-screen hero, Tony Stark, teasing the next episode.
    “Not to mention time for a bold, new big screen hero.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:45:08 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)

Fun items (21)

  1. fun, about Oliver Stone: Stone met Bush at a Yale graduates event a year before the 2000 election and felt he was being controlled by others.
    “There was a sense of a brainwashed president, I'd say, everything was very programmed, like a Manchurian candidate.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:00:44 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Anton Chigurh: Raftery on the hitman's hair: one of the worst haircuts of all time, reminiscent of Slinky Dog from Toy Story.
    “He also possesses one of the worst haircuts of all time.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:09:28 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about No Country for Old Men: Gene Jones never read the novel or full script; his scene was all he needed. The gas station scene took a little over two hours to shoot, on a set in New Mexico.
    “My scene is the Bible, and that's all I need.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:13:03 · Gene Jones (0.90 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about No Country for Old Men: Gene Jones says the Coens never told him, but both knew tension should escalate so gradually you never notice it. The Coens didn't watch the coin-toss scene; Joel folded up behind the counter, Ethan listened at the window.
    “Joel kind of folded up in a corner behind the counter and listened.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:13:46 · Gene Jones (0.90 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about No Country for Old Men: Raftery listened to the coin-toss scene with the screen off and found it even more unsettling without the actors' reactions.
    “This is dorky, even for me.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:14:02 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about No Country for Old Men: Raftery links the coin toss to the old story of the appointment in Samarra: death won't catch me today.
    “The appointment in tomorrow, the old Middle East story about death won't catch me today because I'm going to Samara.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:15:47 · Brian Raftery (0.60 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about Barry Corbin: Corbin says the Marfa house had rattlesnakes under the floor, and he warned the crew to count the cats. Watch when Tommy Lee Jones enters: a cat runs out and was never seen again.
    “And if you watch the movie again, you see when Tommy Lee comes in the front door, a cat runs out. That's gone.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:17:32 · Barry Corbin (0.90 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about No Country for Old Men: Hot take: the Ellis kitchen scene is the single best scene of any film from the 2000s.
    “Ellis then offers a closing thought that, for me at least, makes this the single best scene of any film from the 2000s.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:19:02 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  9. fun, about Barry Corbin: The night before his interview, a friend of 25 years collapsed and died in front of Corbin after watching a movie, which he tied to the film's theme.
    “You never do know what's coming, do you?”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:20:19 · Barry Corbin (0.90 sure it was them)
  10. fun, about No Country for Old Men: Raftery found it comforting in 2007 that somebody else realized how messed up everything had always been.
    “thank God somebody else realizes just how fucked up everything's always been.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:21:17 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  11. fun, about No Country for Old Men: The poster tagline is 'There are no clean getaways,' which Raftery says the 2000s proved untrue.
    “There are no clean getaways.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:22:07 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  12. fun, about World Trade Center: Fans thought Stone had gone patriotic after World Trade Center; the film was a surprise box-office hit with one of Cage's most dialed-back performances.
    “And it featured one of Cage's most dialed back performances of the 2000s.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:24:35 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  13. fun, about Pinkville: Stone's My Lai film fell apart about three weeks before shooting when Merrill Lynch pulled the money in the 2008 meltdown, leaving what he called a big hole in his life.
    “So anyway, the film fell apart, and that was a big hole in my life.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:26:03 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)
  14. fun, about W.: No studio would touch W.; it was financed overseas for about $27 million, including a Jackie Chan producing partner Stone met gambling in Macau.
    “He was a gambler. You'd go off to Macau, and we gambled, and he was quite a fun guy, a crazy guy.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:27:59 · Oliver Stone (0.85 sure it was them)
  15. fun, about W.: Stone wanted satire, not a takedown; Bush was a simple man while Nixon was three-dimensional.
    “Nixon had many, many issues, but it was a three-dimensional man, whereas George Bush was a very simple man.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:30:44 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)
  16. fun, about W.: Christian Bale was originally cast as Bush and studied him for months but dropped out when makeup could not make him W.
    “But he dropped out after it became clear that no amount of makeup would transform him into W.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:31:37 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  17. fun, about Josh Brolin: Brolin was skeptical of playing Bush and said, why make it when we could watch CNN; Stone said he was horrified to be thought of as Bush.
    “Why would we want to make a movie on him when we could just watch CNN?”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:32:16 · Josh Brolin (0.85 sure it was them)
  18. fun, about W.: Cheney sweet-talks Bush into war with a one-percent-chance lettuce and E. coli analogy.
    “There was a one% chance of you dying, sir.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:36:49 · Richard Dreyfuss (0.60 sure it was them)
  19. fun, about W.: The closing press-conference scene has Bush struggling for over a minute to name a lesson learned.
    “Bush struggles for more than a minute.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:38:01 · Brian Raftery (0.95 sure it was them)
  20. fun, about W.: Bill Clinton, a friend of Stone's, gave Bush a copy; Bush reportedly said Josh had done a good job.
    “He just said that he was thought that Josh had done a good job.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:42:04 · Oliver Stone (0.85 sure it was them)
  21. fun, about W.: Stone says the film would have done better had he waited a few years for distance from the Bush years.
    “I believe, in retrospect, you need a little time away from Bush.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:42:27 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)

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