Oliver Stone

Speaks on the shows. Their sketches and lines as a speaker.

Wikidata Q179497: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by Wikidata joins them to W., which 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished credits them on.

Counted as director, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they directed, which the two lists below run through too: Platoon (1986); Wall Street (1987); Born on the Fourth of July (1989); JFK (1991); The Doors (1991); Heaven & Earth (1993); Natural Born Killers (1994); Nixon (1995); Any Given Sunday (1999); Alexander (2004); World Trade Center (2006); W. (2008); Born on the 4th of July; Salvador; Talk Radio; Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps; unspecified. Count them as writer (2 films), producer (1 film) instead.

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Vietnam-vet cliche films (The Exterminator, The Park Is Mine): 1 line

  1. contrast (contrast) · through Born on the Fourth of July (1989), which they directed: Vietnam-vet cliche films (The Exterminator, The Park Is Mine) ⇒ Born on the Fourth of July (the host's read). Born was meant as a rebuttal to the ticking-time-bomb vet movies of the 80s.
    “The film would almost be a rebuttal to all those Vietnam vet cliches.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:20:05 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Wall Street (1987): 1 line, within their own work

  1. lineage (sequel) · through Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps, which they directed: Wall Street ⇒ Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps (the host's read). Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps is a long-awaited legacy sequel to an Oscar-winning 80s drama.
    “a much minded sequel, long-awaited, a legacy sequel of sorts, to a Oscar winning 80s drama.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 2:46:56 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Ben Younger: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · them, directly: Oliver Stone ⇒ Ben Younger (the host's read). Koppelman notes Stone did the Wall Street story first and Younger went after it with limited resources.
    “Oliver Stone did it first, but Ben Younger went after this.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman · 0:25:01 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)

Lieutenant Dan (Forrest Gump): 1 line

  1. craft (craft) · through Born on the Fourth of July (1989), which they directed: Born on the Fourth of July ⇒ Lieutenant Dan (Forrest Gump) (the host's read). Dan's angry wheelchair stretch evokes Kovic.
    “Behavior that no doubt reminded many of COVID and born in the 4th of July.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:46:36 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Margin Call (2011): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · them, directly: Oliver Stone ⇒ Margin Call (the maker said so: Brian speaking about his own writing). Oliver Stone is as big an influence on Brian's dialogue as anybody but Mamet.
    “Oliver Stone's big an influence on the way that I write dialogue as anybody but Mammoth.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 1:09:43 · Brian Koppelman (0.65 sure it was them)

Money Never Sleeps: 1 line

  1. lineage (sequel) · through Wall Street (1987), which they directed: Wall Street ⇒ Money Never Sleeps (the host's read). Wall Street is followed by Money Never Sleeps.
    “but then, of course, money never slept”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:28:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (2007): 1 line

  1. industry (marketing mimicry) · through The Doors (1991), which they directed: The Doors ⇒ Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (the host's read). Walk Hard's poster of John C. Reilly was modeled on Val Kilmer in The Doors so it would pass as a real biopic.
    “the poster of John C. Riley is modeled on Val Kilmer in the doors, right?”
    The Big Picture · ‘Elvis,’ ‘Walk Hard’ and Top Five Music Biopics · 0:30:27 · Adam Nayman (0.85 sure it was them)

Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps: 1 line, within their own work

  1. lineage (sequel) · through Wall Street (1987), which they directed: Wall Street ⇒ Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps (the host's read). Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps is a long-awaited legacy sequel to an Oscar-winning 80s drama.
    “a much minded sequel, long-awaited, a legacy sequel of sorts, to a Oscar winning 80s drama.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 2:46:56 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Wayne's World (1992): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Doors (1991), which they directed: The Doors ⇒ Wayne's World (the host's read). Wayne's World 2 depends on knowing Oliver Stone's The Doors, as Weird Science depends on knowing The Road Warrior.
    “We talked a lot about Wayne's World 2 and we're like, it's very, very dependent on knowing Oliver Stone's the Doors movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 1:07:39 · Kyle Brandt (0.60 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Directing (41) everyone in directing

Other (3) everyone in other

Writing (2) everyone in writing

Producing (1) everyone in producing

What was said about them, by kind

contrast (3)

  1. contrast (contrast): Aaron Sorkin → Oliver Stone. Stone's dark skepticism contrasts with Sorkin's idealism, both committed to their missions.
    “He's an interesting counterweight, I think, to Oliver Stone”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:30:43 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Oliver Stone. Chicago 7 raises the question of whether entertainment can justify itself on politics, as with Stone's films.
    “as I said before about Oliver Stone and all of his other things, I think there's an interesting question here, like, is this movie entertaining enough to justify itself”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:35:58 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (contrast): Oliver Stone → Jackie Chan. Both have thorny personal politics that would enter episode discussion.
    “Both Jackie Chan and Oliver Stone have thorny personal politics.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · March Madness 2021 Recap - Round 2 · 0:39:16 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

lineage (3)

  1. lineage (lineage): Ben Younger → Oliver Stone. Koppelman notes Stone did the Wall Street story first and Younger went after it with limited resources.
    “Oliver Stone did it first, but Ben Younger went after this.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman · 0:25:01 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): Margin Call → Oliver Stone. Oliver Stone is as big an influence on Brian's dialogue as anybody but Mamet.
    “Oliver Stone's big an influence on the way that I write dialogue as anybody but Mammoth.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 1:09:43 · Brian Koppelman (0.65 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage): Oliver Stone → Robert Zemeckis. Alex Ross Perry views Stone as the only real successor to Zemeckis in bracket terms.
    “who I view as the only real successor to Demi and Zameckis.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · March Madness 2021 Recap - Round 2 · 0:34:34 · Griffin Newman (0.30 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (director): Wall Street → Oliver Stone. Wall Street is Oliver Stone's movie; Stone is not among the speaker's favorites in the Stone episode.
    “it's not my favorite as we've when we did our stone episode, it's not really high for me personally.”
    The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 11 - 'The Wolf of Wall Street’ · 0:42:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

theme (1)

  1. theme (theme): Oliver Stone → Robert Zemeckis. Stone's reclamation might be coming like Zemeckis's late-career surge, but too early.
    “Stone might be due for a reclamation at some point”
    Blank Check — Patreon · March Madness 2021 Recap - Round 2 · 0:36:55 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (2)

  1. unmapped (unmade script): Oliver Stone → Planet of the Apes. Stone wrote a script about frozen apes holding the Bible's secret numeric codes and was paid a million dollars.
    “Jesus, Oliver Stone said, it has the discovery of chronologically frozen Vedic apes who hold the secret numeric codes to the Bible that foretold the end of civilizations.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:46:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (fun): Oliver Stone → Natural Born Killers. Griffin promised to be shirtless in vest and purple wraps for Natural Born Killers.
    “for natural born killers I would be shirtless with just a vest and some purple round sunglasses.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · March Madness 2021 Recap - Round 2 · 0:36:02 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

  1. fun, about Oliver Stone: Stone met Bush at a Yale graduates event a year before the 2000 election and felt he was being controlled by others.
    “There was a sense of a brainwashed president, I'd say, everything was very programmed, like a Manchurian candidate.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:00:44 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Oliver Stone: Stone defined the 80s and 90s; Alex Ross Perry campaigned but is not on Twitter.
    “the man defines the 80s in so many ways.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · March Madness 2021 Recap - Round 2 · 0:35:42 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)