Planet of the Apes (2001)
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Wikidata Q469624, film, IMDb tt0133152, TMDB 869: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Tim Burton as director (Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer).
The shows' “Planet of the Apes (2001)” is more than one work, told apart episode by episode: this one in 6 episodes; Planet of the Apes (1968) in 1 episode.
Also said as Planet of the Apes (Tim Burton): the same Wikidata item, so listed here.
What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.
In the store as #711, Planet of the Apes (2001).
Who talked about it
Blank Check with Griffin & David
- Griffin Newman: 2 lines in Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer
- Unattributed: 31 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Blank Check — Patreon
- Unattributed: 6 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Planet of the Apes: 2 lines the host's read ×2
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contrast (inversion):
Planet of the Apes ⇒ Planet of the Apes (the host's read).
The remake opens on a loud, leafy backlot set while the original opens in an empty desert with no apes for a long stretch.
“They totally invert the original movie where the original movie starts in the middle of nowhere.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:53:06 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Dogville shorts (1930s-40s live-action dog shorts): 1 line the host's read ×1
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industry (studio instinct):
Dogville shorts (1930s-40s live-action dog shorts) ⇒ Planet of the Apes (the host's read).
Fox just wanted apes doing human things, like the old Dogville shorts with dogs at restaurant tables.
“And it feels like Fox just wanted to make that.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:12:43 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
Bear City (SNL digital short): 1 line the host's read ×1
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unmapped (parody):
Planet of the Apes ⇒ Bear City (SNL digital short) (the host's read).
An SNL short riffs on Apes with bears who just wear human clothes and mimic humans, like the apes keeping the Lincoln Memorial.
“they were riff on Plan of the Apes, where the bears got smart and they decided to kill all the humans.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:24:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Connected to
Planet of the Apes: 2 lines contrast ×1 lineage ×1
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contrast (inversion):
Planet of the Apes → Planet of the Apes.
The remake opens on a loud, leafy backlot set while the original opens in an empty desert with no apes for a long stretch.
“They totally invert the original movie where the original movie starts in the middle of nowhere.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:53:06 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
A Beautiful Mind: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (Oscar snub):
Planet of the Apes → A Beautiful Mind.
A Beautiful Mind's old-age makeup was nominated over Apes and looks like a wax statue.
“Yeah, nominating that for best makeup over this movie is... I feel like when people cite bad old age makeup, that's the example of like, you don't want to do...”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:12:20 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Adam Rifkin: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (pitch):
Adam Rifkin → Planet of the Apes.
Rifkin pitched Return to the Planet of the Apes as a continuation, wanting Cruise or Sheen.
“Right, Adam fucking Rifkin.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:45:02 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Aquaman: 1 line contrast ×1
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contrast (tie-in contrast):
Planet of the Apes → Aquaman.
Apes had Reebok, geocaching and no food tie-ins, unlike today's Denny's or IHOP deals.
“They had Reebok ads.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:49:05 · Matt Singer (0.40 sure it was them)
Back to the Future Part II: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (time-travel logic):
Planet of the Apes → Back to the Future Part II.
The ending's unexplained time loop is like stopping Back to the Future II at evil 1985 with no explanation.
“it is sort of evocative of like the part of Back to the Future too, where he shows up in evil 1985.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:22:22 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Bear City (SNL digital short): 1 line unmapped ×1
-
unmapped (parody):
Planet of the Apes → Bear City (SNL digital short).
An SNL short riffs on Apes with bears who just wear human clothes and mimic humans, like the apes keeping the Lincoln Memorial.
“they were riff on Plan of the Apes, where the bears got smart and they decided to kill all the humans.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:24:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Beetlejuice: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (tonal echo):
Planet of the Apes → Beetlejuice.
The ape dinner-party scene is the one moment that feels like Burton, like Beetlejuice with apes.
“the scene with all the apes sitting around the dinner table, which is like the Beetlejuice scene with apes.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:02:31 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
Big Trouble in Little China: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (useless hero):
Planet of the Apes → Big Trouble in Little China.
Hard to find a hero as ineffective as Wahlberg here, outside Big Trouble in Little China where that is the joke.
“I was trying to think of, find another, like, hero in an action movie who, that's not, like, Big Trouble, Little China, where that's part of the joke.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:06:27 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Braveheart: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (battle stops):
Planet of the Apes → Braveheart.
Pericles' arrival halts the climactic battle like a Braveheart scene.
“It's like a brave heart, full on battle scene, and it all just instantly stops.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:09:16 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Danny Elfman: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (score):
Danny Elfman → Planet of the Apes.
Elfman's opening theme is exciting but the rest of the score is boring.
“The Elfman score.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:51:44 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
Dogville shorts (1930s-40s live-action dog shorts): 1 line industry ×1
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industry (studio instinct):
Planet of the Apes → Dogville shorts (1930s-40s live-action dog shorts).
Fox just wanted apes doing human things, like the old Dogville shorts with dogs at restaurant tables.
“And it feels like Fox just wanted to make that.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:12:43 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
Ed: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (studio instinct):
Planet of the Apes → Ed.
A Fox executive pitched apes playing baseball, which led someone to joke that this is how we got Ed.
“we wound up with Ed.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:48:06 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
Godzilla: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (hype letdown):
Planet of the Apes → Godzilla.
Both were hyped blockbusters whose letdown taught a young fan that advertising lied; Godzilla at least is structured like a movie.
“This is one of those movies where it's like, this is the beginning of studio filmmaking at this level lacking basic story competency.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:31:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (line echo):
Planet of the Apes → Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
The apes' chanting of a word makes one speaker think of Temple of Doom.
“Um, I can't not think of Temple of Doom every time they say it in this movie.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:11:47 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Interstellar: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (craft):
Planet of the Apes → Interstellar.
Burton's ending is so confusing that the DVD shipped with a timeline insert, likened to Interstellar-style time-travel explanation.
“It's like a weird, like, interstellar where they're like, so if the black hole is here, and this is that, it involves like weird time travel butterfly affection.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:39:03 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
Jungle Cruise: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (possible disappointment):
Jungle Cruise → Planet of the Apes.
Jungle Cruise could be the Planet of the Apes of African Queen-style movies, an action movie version of a classic.
“But it's going to be like the planet of the apes of this kind of movie because it's going to be all, it's not going to be the African.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:46:56 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
Moulin Rouge!: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (Oscar snub):
Planet of the Apes → Moulin Rouge!.
Apes was not nominated for makeup while Moulin Rouge, In the Bedroom and A Beautiful Mind were.
“Now, another nominee was Moulin Rouge, which has incredible makeup and hair.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:11:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Oliver Stone: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (unmade script):
Oliver Stone → Planet of the Apes.
Stone wrote a script about frozen apes holding the Bible's secret numeric codes and was paid a million dollars.
“Jesus, Oliver Stone said, it has the discovery of chronologically frozen Vedic apes who hold the secret numeric codes to the Bible that foretold the end of civilizations.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:46:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Planet of the Apes: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (ending parallel):
Planet of the Apes → Planet of the Apes.
Alex Ross Perry texted that the original book ends in a way very similar to the 2001 film.
“the original book ends in a way that's very similar to this.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:18:41 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Rise of the Planet of the Apes: 1 line verdict ×1
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verdict (better reboot):
Rise of the Planet of the Apes → Planet of the Apes.
A decade later Fox rebooted with a nobody director and it got great reviews, unlike Burton's.
“They picked a nobody director for it.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:27:57 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Saul Bass: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (visual comparison):
Planet of the Apes → Saul Bass.
The opening title shots of helmets feel like Saul Bass.
“feels very salt bass to me.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:52:28 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Suicide Squad: 1 line lineage ×1
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lineage (unneeded sequel):
Suicide Squad → Planet of the Apes.
Studios sometimes force sequels no one asked for; Apes was a rare time they didn't.
“Again, it's like, you got out of suicide squad alive.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:29:37 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
The Last Airbender: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (viewing experience):
Planet of the Apes → The Last Airbender.
The last time a movie felt this soulless and hard to stay awake through on the show was The Last Airbender.
“the last time I remember feeling this way watching a movie forward, this podcast was Last Airbender.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:13:20 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (Oscar rival):
Planet of the Apes → The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring.
Fellowship won Best Makeup over Apes, with a joke about Gimli.
“Fucking Gimli. over Planet of the Apes.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:11:34 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
The Spy Who Loved Me: 1 line contrast ×1
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contrast (contrast):
The Spy Who Loved Me → Planet of the Apes.
Bond gadgets, like the submarine car, are the pitch for Bond against the Apes.
“He's a famous underwater car in the spy who loved me.”
Blank Check — Patreon · 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT · 0:38:59 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
The Wizard of Oz: 1 line verdict ×1
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verdict (verdict):
Planet of the Apes → The Wizard of Oz.
Apes are dominant against Oz: strong and many, while Oz is just a guy behind a curtain.
“Oz is just a guy behind a curtain.”
Blank Check — Patreon · 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT · 0:37:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Tim Roth: 1 line career ×1
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career (career):
Tim Roth → Planet of the Apes.
Roth had to turn down Snape in the Harry Potter films to play the ape in Burton's Planet of the Apes, and the makeup is still phenomenal.
“He was going to be Professor Snape in there.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:38:18 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
Toy Story 2: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (expectations):
Planet of the Apes → Toy Story 2.
Griffin was as excited for Apes as for Toy Story 2, which exceeded his expectations while Apes crushed them.
“And the only other movie I was ever this excited for was Toy Story 2, which became my favorite movie of all time.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:17:07 · Griffin Newman (0.90 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- subject in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer, first at 0:04:12, 70 times
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey, first at 0:52:43, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free), first at 3:18:39, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free), first at 2:20:30, 3 times
- compared in Blank Check — Patreon · 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT, first at 0:31:50, 6 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Covenant, first at 0:03:24, 1 time
- anecdote in Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk, first at 0:38:10, 4 times
What was said about it, by kind
career (1)
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career (career):
Tim Roth → Planet of the Apes.
Roth had to turn down Snape in the Harry Potter films to play the ape in Burton's Planet of the Apes, and the makeup is still phenomenal.
“He was going to be Professor Snape in there.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:38:18 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
contrast (4)
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contrast (contrast):
Planet of the Apes → Planet of the Apes.
The 2001 makeup is expressive and distinct per actor, where the original franchise used one application piece, effectively a painted mask.
“Those movies, there's literally like one application piece and it doesn't have a lot of range or flexibility.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:08:01 · Matt Singer (0.40 sure it was them) -
contrast (inversion):
Planet of the Apes → Planet of the Apes.
The remake opens on a loud, leafy backlot set while the original opens in an empty desert with no apes for a long stretch.
“They totally invert the original movie where the original movie starts in the middle of nowhere.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:53:06 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
contrast (tie-in contrast):
Planet of the Apes → Aquaman.
Apes had Reebok, geocaching and no food tie-ins, unlike today's Denny's or IHOP deals.
“They had Reebok ads.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:49:05 · Matt Singer (0.40 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
The Spy Who Loved Me → Planet of the Apes.
Bond gadgets, like the submarine car, are the pitch for Bond against the Apes.
“He's a famous underwater car in the spy who loved me.”
Blank Check — Patreon · 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT · 0:38:59 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
craft (3)
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craft (score):
Danny Elfman → Planet of the Apes.
Elfman's opening theme is exciting but the rest of the score is boring.
“The Elfman score.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:51:44 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (visual comparison):
Planet of the Apes → Saul Bass.
The opening title shots of helmets feel like Saul Bass.
“feels very salt bass to me.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:52:28 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Planet of the Apes → Interstellar.
Burton's ending is so confusing that the DVD shipped with a timeline insert, likened to Interstellar-style time-travel explanation.
“It's like a weird, like, interstellar where they're like, so if the black hole is here, and this is that, it involves like weird time travel butterfly affection.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:39:03 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
industry (5)
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industry (Oscar rival):
Planet of the Apes → The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring.
Fellowship won Best Makeup over Apes, with a joke about Gimli.
“Fucking Gimli. over Planet of the Apes.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:11:34 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (Oscar snub):
Planet of the Apes → Moulin Rouge!.
Apes was not nominated for makeup while Moulin Rouge, In the Bedroom and A Beautiful Mind were.
“Now, another nominee was Moulin Rouge, which has incredible makeup and hair.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:11:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (Oscar snub):
Planet of the Apes → A Beautiful Mind.
A Beautiful Mind's old-age makeup was nominated over Apes and looks like a wax statue.
“Yeah, nominating that for best makeup over this movie is... I feel like when people cite bad old age makeup, that's the example of like, you don't want to do...”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:12:20 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (studio instinct):
Planet of the Apes → Ed.
A Fox executive pitched apes playing baseball, which led someone to joke that this is how we got Ed.
“we wound up with Ed.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:48:06 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them) -
industry (studio instinct):
Planet of the Apes → Dogville shorts (1930s-40s live-action dog shorts).
Fox just wanted apes doing human things, like the old Dogville shorts with dogs at restaurant tables.
“And it feels like Fox just wanted to make that.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:12:43 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
lineage (2)
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lineage (unneeded sequel):
Suicide Squad → Planet of the Apes.
Studios sometimes force sequels no one asked for; Apes was a rare time they didn't.
“Again, it's like, you got out of suicide squad alive.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:29:37 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Planet of the Apes → Planet of the Apes.
Burton's ending tries to outdo the Statue of Liberty reveal of the original.
“Because they're trying to outdo the reveal of like the Statue of Liberty at the end.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:39:14 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
theme (3)
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theme (tonal echo):
Planet of the Apes → Beetlejuice.
The ape dinner-party scene is the one moment that feels like Burton, like Beetlejuice with apes.
“the scene with all the apes sitting around the dinner table, which is like the Beetlejuice scene with apes.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:02:31 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (line echo):
Planet of the Apes → Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
The apes' chanting of a word makes one speaker think of Temple of Doom.
“Um, I can't not think of Temple of Doom every time they say it in this movie.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:11:47 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
theme (ending parallel):
Planet of the Apes → Planet of the Apes.
Alex Ross Perry texted that the original book ends in a way very similar to the 2001 film.
“the original book ends in a way that's very similar to this.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:18:41 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
unmapped (10)
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unmapped (viewing experience):
Planet of the Apes → The Last Airbender.
The last time a movie felt this soulless and hard to stay awake through on the show was The Last Airbender.
“the last time I remember feeling this way watching a movie forward, this podcast was Last Airbender.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:13:20 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
unmapped (expectations):
Planet of the Apes → Toy Story 2.
Griffin was as excited for Apes as for Toy Story 2, which exceeded his expectations while Apes crushed them.
“And the only other movie I was ever this excited for was Toy Story 2, which became my favorite movie of all time.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:17:07 · Griffin Newman (0.90 sure it was them) -
unmapped (hype letdown):
Planet of the Apes → Godzilla.
Both were hyped blockbusters whose letdown taught a young fan that advertising lied; Godzilla at least is structured like a movie.
“This is one of those movies where it's like, this is the beginning of studio filmmaking at this level lacking basic story competency.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:31:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (pitch):
Adam Rifkin → Planet of the Apes.
Rifkin pitched Return to the Planet of the Apes as a continuation, wanting Cruise or Sheen.
“Right, Adam fucking Rifkin.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:45:02 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (unmade script):
Oliver Stone → Planet of the Apes.
Stone wrote a script about frozen apes holding the Bible's secret numeric codes and was paid a million dollars.
“Jesus, Oliver Stone said, it has the discovery of chronologically frozen Vedic apes who hold the secret numeric codes to the Bible that foretold the end of civilizations.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:46:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (useless hero):
Planet of the Apes → Big Trouble in Little China.
Hard to find a hero as ineffective as Wahlberg here, outside Big Trouble in Little China where that is the joke.
“I was trying to think of, find another, like, hero in an action movie who, that's not, like, Big Trouble, Little China, where that's part of the joke.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:06:27 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (battle stops):
Planet of the Apes → Braveheart.
Pericles' arrival halts the climactic battle like a Braveheart scene.
“It's like a brave heart, full on battle scene, and it all just instantly stops.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:09:16 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (time-travel logic):
Planet of the Apes → Back to the Future Part II.
The ending's unexplained time loop is like stopping Back to the Future II at evil 1985 with no explanation.
“it is sort of evocative of like the part of Back to the Future too, where he shows up in evil 1985.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:22:22 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (parody):
Planet of the Apes → Bear City (SNL digital short).
An SNL short riffs on Apes with bears who just wear human clothes and mimic humans, like the apes keeping the Lincoln Memorial.
“they were riff on Plan of the Apes, where the bears got smart and they decided to kill all the humans.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:24:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (possible disappointment):
Jungle Cruise → Planet of the Apes.
Jungle Cruise could be the Planet of the Apes of African Queen-style movies, an action movie version of a classic.
“But it's going to be like the planet of the apes of this kind of movie because it's going to be all, it's not going to be the African.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:46:56 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
verdict (2)
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verdict (better reboot):
Rise of the Planet of the Apes → Planet of the Apes.
A decade later Fox rebooted with a nobody director and it got great reviews, unlike Burton's.
“They picked a nobody director for it.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:27:57 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Planet of the Apes → The Wizard of Oz.
Apes are dominant against Oz: strong and many, while Oz is just a guy behind a curtain.
“Oz is just a guy behind a curtain.”
Blank Check — Patreon · 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT · 0:37:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
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fun, about
Planet of the Apes:
Rick Baker's makeup is the one great thing in the movie, but it was not even nominated for the Oscar; the nominees included A Beautiful Mind and In the Bedroom.
“The makeup in this is incredible.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:07:34 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Planet of the Apes:
Apes action figures: Griffin owned all of them except Estella Warren; Pericles reportedly had one.
“I literally think I had every action figure other than a Stella Warren.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:18:29 · Griffin Newman (0.90 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Planet of the Apes:
Marketing: giant New York billboards of apes wearing Reeboks and a geocaching scavenger hunt with a $100 GPS device.
“giant New York City billboards that were the apes wearing Reeboks.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:28:36 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Planet of the Apes:
Fox had been trying to make an Apes movie for ten years: Schwarzenegger, Stone, Cameron, Ridley Scott, Jackson; executives kept asking for apes doing ballet or hosting talk shows.
“What if the ape hosted a talk show?”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:49:13 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Planet of the Apes:
Rick Baker played the hookah ape.
“There's Rick Baker plays that hookah ape.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:55:57 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Planet of the Apes:
Wirework: characters get a glancing blow and fly 40 feet; Roth mounts a horse the same jump every time.
“like people like glance giving someone a glancing blow and they fly 40 feet into the air.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:57:29 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Planet of the Apes:
The ending: Wahlberg lands at the Lincoln Memorial, now the Thade Memorial, with apes in charge; the original ending explains everything while this one just confuses.
“He literally lands at the at the Lincoln Memorial, which is now the Fade Memorial.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:20:09 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Planet of the Apes:
The DVD came with a paper insert explaining the time paradox: time does not travel in a straight line through an electromagnetic storm.
“time does not travel in a straight line through an electromagnetic storm.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:22:42 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Planet of the Apes:
Speaker argues the Apes series is the template for franchise storytelling, planned in advance in a very Fei-ish way, with integrity.
“And we're like planned out in advance in a very fei-ish way, but I think have a lot of integrity.”
Blank Check — Patreon · 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT · 0:38:34 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- James Cameron: considered directing an Apes film (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Michael Bay: turned down directing Apes (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Helena Bonham Carter: actor (Ari) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Oliver Stone: paid producer/co-writer on an Apes script (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Ridley Scott: considered directing an Apes film (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Tim Burton: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Tim Burton: director (Blank Check — Patreon, The Incredible Hulk)
- Rick Baker: makeup effects (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Rick Baker: plays the hookah ape (cameo) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Peter Jackson: pitched a Renaissance-set Apes film (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Tim Roth: actor (General Thade) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Tim Roth: actor, ape (Blank Check — Patreon, The Incredible Hulk)
- Paul Giamatti: actor (Limbo) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Charlton Heston: actor (cameo as dying ape) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Chris Columbus: director (tested ape skiing) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Arnold Schwarzenegger: attached star on an Apes project (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Mark Wahlberg: actor (Captain Leo Davidson) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Michael Clarke Duncan: actor (Colonel Attar) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Estella Warren: actor (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Kris Kristofferson: actor (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- David Warner: actor (old senator) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Erick Avari: actor (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Lisa Marie: actor (last Burton film) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Danny Elfman: composer (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Pericles: animal performer (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Phillip Noyce: considered directing an Apes film (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Dylan Sellers: Fox development executive (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- The Hughes brothers: wanted to direct Apes (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- William Broyles Jr.: screenwriter (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Lawrence Konner and Mark Rosenthal: script polish writers (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Saul Bass: title designer (compared to Apes opening credits) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- Fox: studio (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)