Suicide Squad (2016)

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Wikidata Q18604504, film, IMDb tt1386697, TMDB 297761: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Jared Leto as actor (The Top 10 Fantasy Films, The Toy Movie Hall of Fame, and ‘Masters of the Universe,’ with Griffin Newman!); 4 more episodes agree.

What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.

Who talked about it

Blank Check with Griffin & David

Blank Check — Patreon

The Big Picture

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Deadpool: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. industry (industry): Deadpool ⇒ Suicide Squad (the host's read). Suicide Squad felt reactive to Deadpool's success.
    “Suicide Squad felt like it was very influenced by the success of Deadpool”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:29:25 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

Guardians of the Galaxy: 2 lines contrast ×2

  1. contrast (contrast): Guardians of the Galaxy → Suicide Squad. Guardians' needle drops come from an emotional spine (the mixtape), while Suicide Squad's songs relate too directly to the action.
    “Suicide Squad, you feel like every needle drop is trying too hard to relate directly to what's going on.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:33:10 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

James Gunn: 2 lines career ×2

  1. career (career): James Gunn → Suicide Squad. Fired from Guardians 3, DC snatched him up and let him make an R-rated superhero movie.
    “He got like an R-rated superhero movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Marvel Nerdfest · 0:11:30 · David Sims (0.55 sure it was them)

Captain America: The First Avenger: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Captain America: The First Avenger → Suicide Squad. Eating on screen shows pro actors; Viola Davis's steak in Suicide Squad is the best thing in that movie.
    “You remember how well Viola Davis ate that steak in Suicide Squad?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:36:05 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Captain America: The Winter Soldier: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Suicide Squad. Polar makes Suicide Squad look tame.
    “This movie makes Suicide Squad look like...”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:29:49 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Dave Bautista: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Dave Bautista → Suicide Squad. Bautista is apparently going to be in Gunn's Suicide Squad, showing Gunn loves him.
    “Uh, Batista's apparently going to be in the Suicide Squad moment.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:13:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Deadpool: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Suicide Squad → Deadpool. Suicide Squad felt reactive to Deadpool's success.
    “Suicide Squad felt like it was very influenced by the success of Deadpool”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:29:25 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)

Idris Elba: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career pattern): Idris Elba → Suicide Squad. Elba keeps playing supporting parts in franchises (Thor, Suicide Squad), so Man-at-Arms feels like a continuation.
    “I mean, he was literally in the Thor films.”
    The Big Picture · The Top 10 Fantasy Films, The Toy Movie Hall of Fame, and ‘Masters of the Universe,’ with Griffin Newman! · 1:24:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

It's Complicated: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): It's Complicated → Suicide Squad. Meyers's many makeup tests for Steve Martin are compared to Killer Croc's makeup tests.
    “that's what they do with like killer croc and suicide squad.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Something's Gotta Give with Bobby Finger (Ad-Free) · 1:33:57 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Jared Leto: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Jared Leto → Suicide Squad. Leto's Joker reads as gritty but his star level is a Marvel-style move.
    “the level of star feels like a Marvel move also.”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:39:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)

John Cena: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): John Cena → Suicide Squad. The Suicide Squad uses Cena's humor better than F9.
    “And I felt like it leveraged his sense of humor in a way that this movie”
    The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:50:52 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

Justice League: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Suicide Squad → Justice League. Suicide Squad's street-level crooks fighting a celestial god is a story-scale mistake.
    “Like, why are they fighting an like a celestial god.”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:32:00 · David Shoemaker (0.40 sure it was them)

Planet of the Apes: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (unneeded sequel): Suicide Squad → Planet of the Apes. Studios sometimes force sequels no one asked for; Apes was a rare time they didn't.
    “Again, it's like, you got out of suicide squad alive.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:29:37 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Wonder Woman: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Wonder Woman → Suicide Squad. Wonder Woman does not react to anything else; Suicide Squad and Batman v Superman do.
    “Wonder Woman is the 1st DCU movie that doesn't feel reactionary to something else that has happened.”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:29:18 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)

Zack Snyder's Justice League (the Snyder cut): 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Suicide Squad → Zack Snyder's Justice League (the Snyder cut). A speaker would rather see the Ayer cut of Suicide Squad than the Snyder cut.
    “I am more interested in seeing an eye cut than I am in seeing the Snyder cut, to be fair.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation · 2:29:53 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (4)

  1. career (career pattern): Idris Elba → Suicide Squad. Elba keeps playing supporting parts in franchises (Thor, Suicide Squad), so Man-at-Arms feels like a continuation.
    “I mean, he was literally in the Thor films.”
    The Big Picture · The Top 10 Fantasy Films, The Toy Movie Hall of Fame, and ‘Masters of the Universe,’ with Griffin Newman! · 1:24:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): John Cena → Suicide Squad. The Suicide Squad uses Cena's humor better than F9.
    “And I felt like it leveraged his sense of humor in a way that this movie”
    The Big Picture · ‘Fast 9’ and the ‘Fast & Furious’ Rankings · 0:50:52 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  3. career (career): James Gunn → Suicide Squad. Fired from Guardians 3, DC snatched him up and let him make an R-rated superhero movie.
    “He got like an R-rated superhero movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Marvel Nerdfest · 0:11:30 · David Sims (0.55 sure it was them)
  4. career (career): James Gunn → Suicide Squad. It is bizarre that Gunn kept going on Suicide Squad after returning to Marvel, and they expected Disney to force him to choose.
    “I was astonished that Disney wasn't like, if you want Guardians, you have to quit Suicide Squad and let someone else direct your script.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:13:24 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

contrast (4)

  1. contrast (contrast): Wonder Woman → Suicide Squad. Wonder Woman does not react to anything else; Suicide Squad and Batman v Superman do.
    “Wonder Woman is the 1st DCU movie that doesn't feel reactionary to something else that has happened.”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:29:18 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): Guardians of the Galaxy → Suicide Squad. Both are teams of wild cards, but Suicide Squad is unbearable where Guardians works.
    “And it's trying to do the same thing where it's like every character's a wild card, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:12:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (contrast): Guardians of the Galaxy → Suicide Squad. Guardians' needle drops come from an emotional spine (the mixtape), while Suicide Squad's songs relate too directly to the action.
    “Suicide Squad, you feel like every needle drop is trying too hard to relate directly to what's going on.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:33:10 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. contrast (contrast): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Suicide Squad. Polar makes Suicide Squad look tame.
    “This movie makes Suicide Squad look like...”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:29:49 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

craft (3)

  1. craft (craft): Suicide Squad → Justice League. Suicide Squad's street-level crooks fighting a celestial god is a story-scale mistake.
    “Like, why are they fighting an like a celestial god.”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:32:00 · David Shoemaker (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): Captain America: The First Avenger → Suicide Squad. Eating on screen shows pro actors; Viola Davis's steak in Suicide Squad is the best thing in that movie.
    “You remember how well Viola Davis ate that steak in Suicide Squad?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:36:05 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. craft (craft): It's Complicated → Suicide Squad. Meyers's many makeup tests for Steve Martin are compared to Killer Croc's makeup tests.
    “that's what they do with like killer croc and suicide squad.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Something's Gotta Give with Bobby Finger (Ad-Free) · 1:33:57 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

industry (1)

  1. industry (industry): Suicide Squad → Deadpool. Suicide Squad felt reactive to Deadpool's success.
    “Suicide Squad felt like it was very influenced by the success of Deadpool”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:29:25 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)

lineage (1)

  1. lineage (unneeded sequel): Suicide Squad → Planet of the Apes. Studios sometimes force sequels no one asked for; Apes was a rare time they didn't.
    “Again, it's like, you got out of suicide squad alive.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:29:37 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

people (2)

  1. people (people): Jared Leto → Suicide Squad. Leto's Joker reads as gritty but his star level is a Marvel-style move.
    “the level of star feels like a Marvel move also.”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:39:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. people (people): Dave Bautista → Suicide Squad. Bautista is apparently going to be in Gunn's Suicide Squad, showing Gunn loves him.
    “Uh, Batista's apparently going to be in the Suicide Squad moment.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:13:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

verdict (1)

  1. verdict (verdict): Suicide Squad → Zack Snyder's Justice League (the Snyder cut). A speaker would rather see the Ayer cut of Suicide Squad than the Snyder cut.
    “I am more interested in seeing an eye cut than I am in seeing the Snyder cut, to be fair.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation · 2:29:53 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Suicide Squad: The trailer was more of a Marvel trailer than the movie in the can, due to reshoots.
    “the trailer for Suicide Squad was more of a Marvel trailer than the movie that they had in the can”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:28:50 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Suicide Squad: Audience guffawed at the celestial-god climax; one host says 13-year-old David would have loved it.
    “13 year old David would have thought it was awesome.”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:32:29 · David Shoemaker (0.50 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.