The Trial of the Chicago 7 (2020)

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Who talked about it

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What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Steven Spielberg: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. people (people): Steven Spielberg ⇒ The Trial of the Chicago 7 (the host's read). Spielberg long wanted to make it and encouraged Sorkin to write the script.
    “Steven Spielberg had always wanted to make this movie.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

Punishment Park: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Trial of the Chicago 7 ⇒ Punishment Park (the host's read). Punishment Park is recommended as a very loose take on this trial.
    “There's this great movie called Punishment Park that I would recommend to anybody that is very loosely based on this trial.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Connected to

Aaron Sorkin: 4 lines career ×2 verdict ×1 programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): Aaron Sorkin → The Trial of the Chicago 7. Next episode: Aaron Sorkin and The Trial of the Chicago 7.
    “examining one of our stars, one of our beloveds, a great and complicated Aaron Sorkin”
    The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 2:09:02 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

A Few Good Men: 2 lines theme ×2

  1. theme (theme): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → A Few Good Men. Both are courtroom dramas of principled argument; Cruise's charisma is key and Chicago 7 needs scene-chewers too.
    “You have to have people that want to gnaw on the scenery, that want to yell, that want to be in the center of the frame.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:22:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

Molly's Game: 2 lines career ×1 craft ×1

  1. career (career): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Molly's Game. Chicago 7 is Sorkin's second directing job after Molly's Game.
    “after 2017's Molly's game, which we talked about pretty much in full on this podcast earlier in quarantine.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:57 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Chicago 10: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Chicago 10. The trial was also rendered in Brett Morgen's animated documentary Chicago 10, the HBO movie and Bananas.
    “You can see it in a Brett Morgan animated documentary called Chicago 10.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Eddie Redmayne: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Eddie Redmayne → The Trial of the Chicago 7. Redmayne is not a favorite but was very effective as Tom Hayden.
    “I thought he was very good as Tom Hayden.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:56:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

MC5: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → MC5. The film's mix of faux-60s rock guitar and syrupy film score is faulted; MC5 is what the moment really sounded like and what a radical protester listened to.
    “he has this like simulacra, like 60s rock and roll score where there's like electric tar combined with this very syrupy film music score.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:42:54 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

Mank: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Mank. Chicago 7 is a big fat fastball for the Oscars alongside Mank, Nomadland and Hillbilly Elegy.
    “this is a big fat, fastball right down the middle.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:54:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)

Mark Rylance: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Mark Rylance → The Trial of the Chicago 7. Rylance is cast as Kunstler but only plays 'a Mark Rylance character' with no big speech.
    “Mark Rylance just kind of felt like he was doing a Mark Rylance character, you know?”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:52:09 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

Medium Cool: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Medium Cool. The Chicago trial and DNC events were told before in Haskell Wexler's part-documentary Medium Cool.
    “Medium cool, Haskell Wexler's part documentary, part narrative feature in 1969 kind of reflects on the events at the DNC that year.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:23 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Michael Keaton: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Michael Keaton. Keaton's brief cameo as Ramsey Clark is a highlight for audiences.
    “Michael Keaton is in this movie for 5 minutes.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:55:38 · Amanda Dobbins (0.55 sure it was them)

Moonlight: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Moonlight. Moonlight is the model of a film that was right for its moment, against which Chicago 7's timeliness is weighed.
    “I always felt like Moonlight was a movie for its time in a very sentimental way”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:35:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

Oliver Stone: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Oliver Stone. Chicago 7 raises the question of whether entertainment can justify itself on politics, as with Stone's films.
    “as I said before about Oliver Stone and all of his other things, I think there's an interesting question here, like, is this movie entertaining enough to justify itself”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:35:58 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

Punishment Park: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Punishment Park. Punishment Park is recommended as a very loose take on this trial.
    “There's this great movie called Punishment Park that I would recommend to anybody that is very loosely based on this trial.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Sacha Baron Cohen: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): Sacha Baron Cohen → The Trial of the Chicago 7. Cohen is the most creative casting and likely to compete for awards.
    “It has the most creative and I think successful casting in the movie of Sasha Baron Cohen.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:40:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.75 sure it was them)

Steve Jobs: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Steve Jobs. Both ask whether the result was worth how people were treated, and how change is made.
    “But that same idea, that sort of like, was it worth it, idea, is in a lot of his other work.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:00:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

Steven Spielberg: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (people): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Steven Spielberg. Spielberg long wanted to make it and encouraged Sorkin to write the script.
    “Steven Spielberg had always wanted to make this movie.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

The Social Network: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → The Social Network. Both use the intercut to dramatize testimony; Chicago 7's climactic speech is another intercut that does not land.
    “it is actually another intercut, Sean, as you mentioned”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:45:00 · Amanda Dobbins (0.65 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (3)

  1. career (career): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Molly's Game. Chicago 7 is Sorkin's second directing job after Molly's Game.
    “after 2017's Molly's game, which we talked about pretty much in full on this podcast earlier in quarantine.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:57 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Aaron Sorkin. Chicago 7 is called the peak Sorkin movie, a marriage of his interests, setting and style.
    “this is the peak Aaron's working movie, and it is like a real marriage of interests and setting and style and career.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:38:00 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. career (career): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Aaron Sorkin. Sorkin's Chicago 7 should be in this wheelhouse.
    “Trial of Chicago 7, which theoretically will be in this exact wheelhouse”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 0:29:50 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

contrast (2)

  1. contrast (contrast): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Oliver Stone. Chicago 7 raises the question of whether entertainment can justify itself on politics, as with Stone's films.
    “as I said before about Oliver Stone and all of his other things, I think there's an interesting question here, like, is this movie entertaining enough to justify itself”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:35:58 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → MC5. The film's mix of faux-60s rock guitar and syrupy film score is faulted; MC5 is what the moment really sounded like and what a radical protester listened to.
    “he has this like simulacra, like 60s rock and roll score where there's like electric tar combined with this very syrupy film music score.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:42:54 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

craft (2)

  1. craft (craft): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → The Social Network. Both use the intercut to dramatize testimony; Chicago 7's climactic speech is another intercut that does not land.
    “it is actually another intercut, Sean, as you mentioned”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:45:00 · Amanda Dobbins (0.65 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Molly's Game. Both add an unnecessary decent or fatherly figure; the Schultz character is compared to Molly's father on the park bench.
    “I don't know why Molly needed to be motivated by her father on a park bench in New York City at the end of that movie.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:48:22 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)

lineage (3)

  1. lineage (lineage): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Medium Cool. The Chicago trial and DNC events were told before in Haskell Wexler's part-documentary Medium Cool.
    “Medium cool, Haskell Wexler's part documentary, part narrative feature in 1969 kind of reflects on the events at the DNC that year.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:23 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Punishment Park. Punishment Park is recommended as a very loose take on this trial.
    “There's this great movie called Punishment Park that I would recommend to anybody that is very loosely based on this trial.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Chicago 10. The trial was also rendered in Brett Morgen's animated documentary Chicago 10, the HBO movie and Bananas.
    “You can see it in a Brett Morgan animated documentary called Chicago 10.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

people (5)

  1. people (people): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Steven Spielberg. Spielberg long wanted to make it and encouraged Sorkin to write the script.
    “Steven Spielberg had always wanted to make this movie.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:31:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. people (people): Sacha Baron Cohen → The Trial of the Chicago 7. Cohen is the most creative casting and likely to compete for awards.
    “It has the most creative and I think successful casting in the movie of Sasha Baron Cohen.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:40:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.75 sure it was them)
  3. people (people): Mark Rylance → The Trial of the Chicago 7. Rylance is cast as Kunstler but only plays 'a Mark Rylance character' with no big speech.
    “Mark Rylance just kind of felt like he was doing a Mark Rylance character, you know?”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:52:09 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
  4. people (people): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Michael Keaton. Keaton's brief cameo as Ramsey Clark is a highlight for audiences.
    “Michael Keaton is in this movie for 5 minutes.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:55:38 · Amanda Dobbins (0.55 sure it was them)
  5. people (people): Eddie Redmayne → The Trial of the Chicago 7. Redmayne is not a favorite but was very effective as Tom Hayden.
    “I thought he was very good as Tom Hayden.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:56:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

programming (3)

  1. programming (programming): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Moonlight. Moonlight is the model of a film that was right for its moment, against which Chicago 7's timeliness is weighed.
    “I always felt like Moonlight was a movie for its time in a very sentimental way”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:35:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. programming (programming): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Mank. Chicago 7 is a big fat fastball for the Oscars alongside Mank, Nomadland and Hillbilly Elegy.
    “this is a big fat, fastball right down the middle.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:54:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)
  3. programming (programming): Aaron Sorkin → The Trial of the Chicago 7. Next episode: Aaron Sorkin and The Trial of the Chicago 7.
    “examining one of our stars, one of our beloveds, a great and complicated Aaron Sorkin”
    The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 2:09:02 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

theme (3)

  1. theme (theme): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Steve Jobs. Both ask whether the result was worth how people were treated, and how change is made.
    “But that same idea, that sort of like, was it worth it, idea, is in a lot of his other work.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:00:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → A Few Good Men. Both are courtroom dramas of principled argument; Cruise's charisma is key and Chicago 7 needs scene-chewers too.
    “You have to have people that want to gnaw on the scenery, that want to yell, that want to be in the center of the frame.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:22:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → A Few Good Men. Unlike A Few Good Men, Chicago 7 is full of obvious themes to dissect.
    “There's all of these obvious themes”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:22:57 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

verdict (1)

  1. verdict (verdict): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Aaron Sorkin. Good and entertaining, worth watching, but politically small and the filmmaking not sharp enough.
    “It's a really good movie.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:44:05 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about The Trial of the Chicago 7: Sorkin's father-of-daughters tic reaches even Chicago 7, where a minor character has two daughters.
    “character has 2 daughters who takes walking on the park.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:18:45 · Amanda Dobbins (0.55 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about The Trial of the Chicago 7: Bobby Seale is bound and gagged in the courtroom in an extraordinary sequence.
    “he was bounding, gagged in the courtroom in this extraordinary sequence”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:37:38 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about The Trial of the Chicago 7: Tom Hayden reads the names of the war dead at sentencing; the film ends there.
    “chooses to read the names of every single American's older who has died in Vietnam”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:39:19 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about The Trial of the Chicago 7: The score pairs fake 60s guitar rock with syrupy film music; real radicals would be playing the MC5.
    “you have to play the MC5.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:43:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about The Trial of the Chicago 7: Sorkin intercuts real brutality footage but cuts back to dramatized versions, which is less scary.
    “the real stuff is scarier and realer.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:43:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about The Trial of the Chicago 7: A drive-in screening at the Rose Bowl, courtesy of Netflix.
    “We went to a lovely drive-in screening of this film at the Rose Bowl.”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:54:53 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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