The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011)
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Who talked about it
Blank Check — Patreon
- Griffin Newman: 1 line in The Killer with Marie Bardi (Ad-Free)
- Unattributed: 37 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
The Rewatchables
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Blue Velvet: 1 line the host's read ×1
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unmapped (quoted line):
Blue Velvet ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read).
The fuck-you-you-fucking-fuck shirt is believed to originate from Dennis Hopper's line in Blue Velvet.
“Hopper says that in blue velvet.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:24:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Stieg Larsson: 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (adaptation):
Stieg Larsson ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read).
The film is Zaillian's abridged adaptation of Larsson's novel, which loses nothing major.
“I think this is an excellent piece of adaptation that does not really, like, skip anything major.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:49:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Sven Nykvist: 1 line the maker said so ×1
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craft (visual reference):
Sven Nykvist ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the maker said so).
Someone on the shoot (Fincher, or the DP by the garbled name) wanted a Sven Nykvist look: warm fires, cold rooms.
“I wanted to do a whole Sven Nikfist thing”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:11:05 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009): 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (remake):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read).
The Fincher film is the American remake of the Swedish original; its director says he was not worried.
“Everyone who loves film will go see the original.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:54:19 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
The Social Network: 1 line the host's read ×1
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people (casting led to):
The Social Network ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read).
Pascal saw the dailies from The Social Network and picked Rooney Mara for Lisbeth Salander.
“Pascal basically sees the dailies from this movie and is like, Rooney Morris, Elizabeth Salander.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:59:02 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
Gone Girl: 1 line the host's read ×1
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people (casting approach):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo ⇒ Gone Girl (the host's read).
The speaker thinks Fincher's exhaustive casting search on Dragon Tattoo informed how he cast Amy with someone new to the audience.
“that exhaustive casting search, which I do think informs the way he approaches Amy going into this movie as well”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:55:22 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Connected to
The Social Network: 4 lines unmapped ×2 people ×2
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people (casting led to):
The Social Network → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Pascal saw the dailies from The Social Network and picked Rooney Mara for Lisbeth Salander.
“Pascal basically sees the dailies from this movie and is like, Rooney Morris, Elizabeth Salander.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:59:02 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009): 3 lines unmapped ×1 craft ×1 lineage ×1
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lineage (remake):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
The Fincher film is the American remake of the Swedish original; its director says he was not worried.
“Everyone who loves film will go see the original.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:54:19 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Gone Girl: 2 lines people ×1 industry ×1
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people (casting approach):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Gone Girl.
The speaker thinks Fincher's exhaustive casting search on Dragon Tattoo informed how he cast Amy with someone new to the audience.
“that exhaustive casting search, which I do think informs the way he approaches Amy going into this movie as well”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:55:22 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
The Girl in the Spider's Web: 2 lines lineage ×1 unmapped ×1
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lineage (sequel/reboot):
The Girl in the Spider's Web → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Spider's Web is the reboot after Fincher's film; the speaker finds it ill advised to abandon Mara.
“especially when the thing that everyone liked most about this movie was that performance and how quickly they abandoned it.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:16:06 · Fran Hoepfner (0.40 sure it was them)
A Clockwork Orange: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (violence compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → A Clockwork Orange.
Fincher cites Clockwork Orange as film where rape is offensive, not titillating.
“It's a power of clock or orange.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:53:32 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Aaron Sorkin: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (shared subject compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Aaron Sorkin.
Lisbeth is cast as everything Fincher likes about Zuckerberg minus the things he hates.
“I feel like Elizabeth is everything that Fincher likes about Zuckerberg minus the things he hates about him.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 2:30:24 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Aloha: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (affairs line):
Aloha → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Pascal's reported 'people don't want affairs' lesson is tied to Aloha.
“People never want to watch movies about affairs.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:47:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Black Hat: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (go-on-computer compared):
Black Hat → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Black Hat is the ultimate he-go-on-computer movie, the end of an era Dragon Tattoo began.
“I mean, that's the ultimate he go on computer movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:42:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Blue Velvet: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (quoted line):
Blue Velvet → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
The fuck-you-you-fucking-fuck shirt is believed to originate from Dennis Hopper's line in Blue Velvet.
“Hopper says that in blue velvet.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:24:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Casino Royale: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (torture scene compared):
Casino Royale → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Craig's Casino Royale torture scene is hall of fame; he plays being tortured well here too.
“the casino royale scene is like hall of fame playing being tortured.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 2:23:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Christopher Plummer: 1 line career ×1
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career (career run):
Christopher Plummer → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
His 80s run: Beginners, Knives Out, Dragon Tattoo, All the Money in the World.
“I think if you just say his 80s contains beginners, knives out, girl with the dragon tattoo, all the money in the world.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:30:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
David Fincher: 1 line verdict ×1
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verdict (verdict):
David Fincher → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Dragon Tattoo has become Fincher's most underrated film.
“which is Girl with a Dragon tattoo.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:24:31 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Fifty Shades of Grey: 1 line verdict ×1
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verdict (bestseller adaptation compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Fifty Shades of Grey.
Dragon Tattoo is grouped with Da Vinci Code and Fifty Shades as studio bets on bestsellers; this one underperformed.
“And in other cases of shit like Da Vinci code or Fifty Shades of Grey, where there's a best-selling book,”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:17:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Jaws: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (tension compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Jaws.
The first hour's wait for the leads to meet is likened to Brody facing the shark.
“as if it's like Brody coming face to face with the shark.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:52:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Lola Visual Effects: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (visual effects):
Lola Visual Effects → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Lola tracked a hair gap into reshot footage.
“So Lola, the special effects house, who's like one of the best, they do like all the de-aging, they're like top level.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:11:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Michael Clayton: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (character setup compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Michael Clayton.
Both open on a protagonist already broken by past failure.
“It's the Michael Clayton thing I love of like, you start this movie with a character”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:25:22 · Griffin Newman (0.30 sure it was them)
Mindhunter: 1 line career ×1
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career (parallel project):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Mindhunter.
Between The Social Network and Dragon Tattoo, Fincher developed Mindhunter with Charlize Theron.
“starts developing Mindhunter with Charlie's Theron, who is a producer.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:43:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (box office context):
Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Ghost Protocol was number one, Game of Shadows number two, Dragon Tattoo number three that weekend.
“Okay. Number two, is Dragon Tattoo?”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 2:34:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Panic Room: 1 line career ×1
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career (career phase contrast):
Panic Room → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
A host says Fincher's later airport-paperback thrillers deepen the text where Panic Room is mostly craft.
“And I think later when he gets to what I'd call his airport paperback thriller phase, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 2:31:28 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Seven: 1 line people ×1
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people (casting method):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Seven.
Fincher's quote on Dragon Tattoo casting (find the essential quality that survives 100 takes) is applied to why Pitt works as Mills.
“I think the thing you want to find when you're casting your leads and casting your movie stars is like the essential quality they have in their being that no matter what is going to come through on camera”
Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 0:40:41 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (reading the dossier) (0.40 sure it was them)
Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (same-weekend release):
Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Game of Shadows opened two weeks before and held at number two.
“Sherlock Holmes. a game of Shadows.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 2:35:13 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Star 80: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (violence compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Star 80.
Fincher mentions Star 80 in the same breath.
“I holy respect straw dogs or even star 80.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:53:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Stieg Larsson: 1 line lineage ×1
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lineage (adaptation):
Stieg Larsson → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
The film is Zaillian's abridged adaptation of Larsson's novel, which loses nothing major.
“I think this is an excellent piece of adaptation that does not really, like, skip anything major.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:49:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Straw Dogs: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (violence compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Straw Dogs.
Fincher names Straw Dogs as challenging ideas of revenge.
“I holy respect straw dogs or even star 80.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:53:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Sven Nykvist: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (visual reference):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Sven Nykvist.
Someone on the shoot (Fincher, or the DP by the garbled name) wanted a Sven Nykvist look: warm fires, cold rooms.
“I wanted to do a whole Sven Nikfist thing”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:11:05 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
The Artist: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (awards year compared):
The Artist → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Weinstein's campaign made The Artist a populist favorite while Dragon Tattoo won only editing.
“One of the last and worst tricks that Weinstein played on us was like, everyone loves this”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 2:41:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (blank check compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
Button, not Dragon Tattoo, is probably Fincher's biggest blank check.
“I think Benjamin Button ended up being the bigger one, but this was such a like...”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:12:26 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
The Killer: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (score stand-in):
The Killer → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
The speaker listened to the Dragon Tattoo score while reading the comic because The Killer score was not out.
“it's not out there, so I just listened Dragon Tattoo.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer with Marie Bardi (Ad-Free) · 0:02:09 · unknown (host) (0.30 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- anecdote in Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan, first at 0:07:44, 1 time
- anecdote in The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey, first at 1:33:18, 1 time
- compared in The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey, first at 0:24:31, 3 times
- passing in The Big Picture · ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies, first at 0:27:43, 1 time
- compared in The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More, first at 0:17:53, 1 time
- compared in Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer with Marie Bardi (Ad-Free), first at 0:02:09, 8 times
- compared in Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free), first at 0:21:10, 5 times
- subject in Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free), first at 0:04:32, 33 times
- compared in Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free), first at 0:07:38, 4 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · David Fincher Music Videos, first at 2:11:33, 1 time
- compared in Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free), first at 2:31:34, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free), first at 0:43:57, 2 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free), first at 1:23:13, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free), first at 0:40:32, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free), first at 2:25:48, 1 time
- anecdote in Blank Check — Patreon · Barry Lyndon with Karina Longworth (Ad-Free), first at 0:32:35, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Thor, first at 0:50:58, 1 time
What was said about it, by kind
career (3)
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career (parallel project):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Mindhunter.
Between The Social Network and Dragon Tattoo, Fincher developed Mindhunter with Charlize Theron.
“starts developing Mindhunter with Charlie's Theron, who is a producer.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:43:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career run):
Christopher Plummer → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
His 80s run: Beginners, Knives Out, Dragon Tattoo, All the Money in the World.
“I think if you just say his 80s contains beginners, knives out, girl with the dragon tattoo, all the money in the world.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:30:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career phase contrast):
Panic Room → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
A host says Fincher's later airport-paperback thrillers deepen the text where Panic Room is mostly craft.
“And I think later when he gets to what I'd call his airport paperback thriller phase, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 2:31:28 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
craft (4)
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craft (score stand-in):
The Killer → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
The speaker listened to the Dragon Tattoo score while reading the comic because The Killer score was not out.
“it's not out there, so I just listened Dragon Tattoo.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer with Marie Bardi (Ad-Free) · 0:02:09 · unknown (host) (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (structure compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
The Swedish version is a near one-to-one transposition with no act structure; Fincher's feels dramatic.
“the Swedish one is almost so one-to-one that it has no ax structure.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:52:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (visual reference):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Sven Nykvist.
Someone on the shoot (Fincher, or the DP by the garbled name) wanted a Sven Nykvist look: warm fires, cold rooms.
“I wanted to do a whole Sven Nikfist thing”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:11:05 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (visual effects):
Lola Visual Effects → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Lola tracked a hair gap into reshot footage.
“So Lola, the special effects house, who's like one of the best, they do like all the de-aging, they're like top level.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:11:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
industry (4)
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industry (Oscar treatment):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Gone Girl.
Dragon Tattoo got the same dismissal as a stylist's pulp job, with more nominations.
“He is, he is, but Dragon Tattoo kind of got the same treatment.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:47:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (box office context):
Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Ghost Protocol was number one, Game of Shadows number two, Dragon Tattoo number three that weekend.
“Okay. Number two, is Dragon Tattoo?”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 2:34:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (same-weekend release):
Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Game of Shadows opened two weeks before and held at number two.
“Sherlock Holmes. a game of Shadows.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 2:35:13 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (awards year compared):
The Artist → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Weinstein's campaign made The Artist a populist favorite while Dragon Tattoo won only editing.
“One of the last and worst tricks that Weinstein played on us was like, everyone loves this”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 2:41:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
lineage (3)
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lineage (sequel/reboot):
The Girl in the Spider's Web → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Spider's Web is the reboot after Fincher's film; the speaker finds it ill advised to abandon Mara.
“especially when the thing that everyone liked most about this movie was that performance and how quickly they abandoned it.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:16:06 · Fran Hoepfner (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (adaptation):
Stieg Larsson → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
The film is Zaillian's abridged adaptation of Larsson's novel, which loses nothing major.
“I think this is an excellent piece of adaptation that does not really, like, skip anything major.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:49:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (remake):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
The Fincher film is the American remake of the Swedish original; its director says he was not worried.
“Everyone who loves film will go see the original.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:54:19 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
people (4)
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people (casting approach):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Gone Girl.
The speaker thinks Fincher's exhaustive casting search on Dragon Tattoo informed how he cast Amy with someone new to the audience.
“that exhaustive casting search, which I do think informs the way he approaches Amy going into this movie as well”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:55:22 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (shared composers):
The Social Network → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Reznor and Ross scored both films; the speaker listens to the Dragon Tattoo score more than Social Network's.
“I listen to more than the social network score.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 2:31:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
people (casting led to):
The Social Network → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Pascal saw the dailies from The Social Network and picked Rooney Mara for Lisbeth Salander.
“Pascal basically sees the dailies from this movie and is like, Rooney Morris, Elizabeth Salander.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:59:02 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them) -
people (casting method):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Seven.
Fincher's quote on Dragon Tattoo casting (find the essential quality that survives 100 takes) is applied to why Pitt works as Mills.
“I think the thing you want to find when you're casting your leads and casting your movie stars is like the essential quality they have in their being that no matter what is going to come through on camera”
Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 0:40:41 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (reading the dossier) (0.40 sure it was them)
theme (1)
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theme (character setup compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Michael Clayton.
Both open on a protagonist already broken by past failure.
“It's the Michael Clayton thing I love of like, you start this movie with a character”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:25:22 · Griffin Newman (0.30 sure it was them)
unmapped (14)
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unmapped (blank check compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
Button, not Dragon Tattoo, is probably Fincher's biggest blank check.
“I think Benjamin Button ended up being the bigger one, but this was such a like...”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:12:26 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (recast role):
The Girl in the Spider's Web → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Vicky Krieps plays the Robin Wright role in Spider's Web.
“She plays the Robin Wright role.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:18:14 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (look compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Rewatching the Swedish film, the speaker finds the two do not look alike despite the shot-for-shot-remake talk.
“these things don't fucking look similar at...”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:34:11 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (timeline):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → The Social Network.
Social Network came out a bit more than a year before.
“just a little more than a year before this film, obviously.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:43:19 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (affairs line):
Aloha → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Pascal's reported 'people don't want affairs' lesson is tied to Aloha.
“People never want to watch movies about affairs.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:47:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (tension compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Jaws.
The first hour's wait for the leads to meet is likened to Brody facing the shark.
“as if it's like Brody coming face to face with the shark.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:52:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (violence compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → A Clockwork Orange.
Fincher cites Clockwork Orange as film where rape is offensive, not titillating.
“It's a power of clock or orange.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:53:32 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (violence compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Straw Dogs.
Fincher names Straw Dogs as challenging ideas of revenge.
“I holy respect straw dogs or even star 80.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:53:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (violence compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Star 80.
Fincher mentions Star 80 in the same breath.
“I holy respect straw dogs or even star 80.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:53:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (quoted line):
Blue Velvet → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
The fuck-you-you-fucking-fuck shirt is believed to originate from Dennis Hopper's line in Blue Velvet.
“Hopper says that in blue velvet.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:24:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (go-on-computer compared):
Black Hat → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Black Hat is the ultimate he-go-on-computer movie, the end of an era Dragon Tattoo began.
“I mean, that's the ultimate he go on computer movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:42:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (torture scene compared):
Casino Royale → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Craig's Casino Royale torture scene is hall of fame; he plays being tortured well here too.
“the casino royale scene is like hall of fame playing being tortured.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 2:23:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (shared subject compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Aaron Sorkin.
Lisbeth is cast as everything Fincher likes about Zuckerberg minus the things he hates.
“I feel like Elizabeth is everything that Fincher likes about Zuckerberg minus the things he hates about him.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 2:30:24 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (consecutive run):
The Social Network → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
The Social Network, Dragon Tattoo, and Gone Girl are named as a consecutive run.
“social network, gone girl, uh, uh, social network, dragon tattoo, gone girl, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:07:38 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
verdict (2)
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verdict (verdict):
David Fincher → The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
Dragon Tattoo has become Fincher's most underrated film.
“which is Girl with a Dragon tattoo.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:24:31 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
verdict (bestseller adaptation compared):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Fifty Shades of Grey.
Dragon Tattoo is grouped with Da Vinci Code and Fifty Shades as studio bets on bestsellers; this one underperformed.
“And in other cases of shit like Da Vinci code or Fifty Shades of Grey, where there's a best-selling book,”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:17:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
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fun, about
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo:
On the commentary, Fincher tells how the bottle-catch and the cat landing in frame was a perfect take, and he did two more anyway, a self-parody of his many takes.
“I wasn't even happy with that take.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Killer with Marie Bardi (Ad-Free) · 0:24:15 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo:
Zaillian and Fincher stopped fighting the structure and accepted a five-act story.
“we just need to accept this as a 5 act story, which is unconventional, but if they're ever going to let us do it, they're going to let us do it on this movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:51:41 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo:
About 35 percent of the movie was reshot; the wall of suspects was reshot most.
“it felt like 35% of this movie was reshot.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:10:19 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo:
Fincher: a reshoot cost money because a hair gap, the Louise Brooks gap, was missing from half the scene and had to be tracked in.
“which he refers to as like the Louise Brooks gap”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:11:27 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- Scarlett Johansson: actress who came close to the part (Blank Check — Patreon, Barry Lyndon with Karina Longworth (Ad-Free))
- Scarlett Johansson: tested/considered for Lisbeth (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Brad Pitt: rumored first choice for Blomkvist (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Steven Zaillian: screenwriter (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Robin Wright: Erika Berger (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Amy Pascal: Sony studio head who pitched Fincher (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Anne Hathaway: considered for Lisbeth (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- David Fincher: director (The Rewatchables, ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey)
- David Fincher: director (The Rewatchables, ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- David Fincher: director (Blank Check — Patreon, Barry Lyndon with Karina Longworth (Ad-Free))
- David Fincher: director (Blank Check — Patreon, Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free))
- David Fincher: director (Blank Check — Patreon, Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free))
- David Fincher: director (Blank Check — Patreon, Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free))
- David Fincher: director (Blank Check — Patreon, Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free))
- David Fincher: director (Blank Check — Patreon, The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free))
- David Fincher: director (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- David Fincher: director (Blank Check — Patreon, The Killer with Marie Bardi (Ad-Free))
- David Fincher: director (Blank Check — Patreon, The Social Network (Ad-Free))
- Andrew Kevin Walker: wrote a sequel script (not made) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Killer with Marie Bardi (Ad-Free))
- Kirk Baxter: editor (Blank Check — Patreon, The Social Network (Ad-Free))
- Stellan Skarsgard: actor (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor)
- Stellan Skarsgard: Martin Vanger (the villain) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Natalie Portman: actress who came close to the part (Blank Check — Patreon, Barry Lyndon with Karina Longworth (Ad-Free))
- Natalie Portman: considered for Lisbeth (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Rooney Mara: actor (The Rewatchables, ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey)
- Rooney Mara: lead (Lisbeth) (Blank Check — Patreon, Barry Lyndon with Karina Longworth (Ad-Free))
- Rooney Mara: lead (Lisbeth Salander) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Rooney Mara: Lisbeth Salander (as said: Elizabeth Salander) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Social Network (Ad-Free))
- Trent Reznor: composer (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Atticus Ross: composer (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Jennifer Lawrence: considered for Lisbeth (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Léa Seydoux: reported final four for Lisbeth (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Sony Pictures: studio (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Daniel Craig: lead (Mikael Blomkvist) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Daniel Craig: lead (Blank Check — Patreon, The Killer with Marie Bardi (Ad-Free))
- Eva Green: considered for Lisbeth (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Joel Kinnaman: cast (named in the Dencik exchange) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Scott Rudin: producer (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Noomi Rapace: actor (The Big Picture, ‘Ferrari’ and Top Five Michael Mann Movies)
- Christopher Plummer: Henrik Vanger (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Steven Berkoff: Dirch Frode, the lawyer (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Jeff Cronenweth: cinematographer (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Tim Miller: opening title sequence (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Joely Richardson: Anita / Harriet Vanger (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Yorick van Wageningen: Nils Bjurman (the new guardian) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Goran Visnjic: Dragan Armansky (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Donald Sumpter: Detective Morell (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- David Dencik: newspaper staff (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Geraldine James: Cecilia Vanger (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Julian Sands: Gottfried Vanger (father, flashbacks) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Stieg Larsson: author of the Millennium novels (Men Who Hate Women) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Fredrik Backar: Swedish cinematographer, replaced a few weeks in (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Lola Visual Effects: visual effects house (de-aging, hair-gap tracking) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Emily Browning: considered for Lisbeth (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Sarah Snook: reported final four for Lisbeth (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Sophie Lowe: reported final four for Lisbeth (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- Angus Wall: editor (Blank Check — Patreon, The Social Network (Ad-Free))