Lorne Michaels

Made films the shows talk about.

Wikidata Q521221: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.

Counted as producer, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they produced, which the two lists below run through too: Three Amigos (1986); Wayne's World (1992); Tommy Boy (1995); Mean Girls (2004).

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Heathers (1988): 2 lines

  1. theme (genre DNA) · through Mean Girls (2004), which they produced: Heathers ⇒ Mean Girls (the host's read). Mean Girls is described as part Heathers and part after-school special; the ending was pushed away from Heathers toward the relatable.
    “This movie is like part Heathers and part after school special.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Mean Girls’ With Bill Simmons, Juliet Litman, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:11:54 · Juliet Litman (0.55 sure it was them)
  2. theme (character descent) · through Mean Girls (2004), which they produced: Heathers ⇒ Mean Girls (the host's read). Regina George is framed as the legacy of the original Heather (Kim Walker), the first Heather killed.
    “Regina George. To me is the legacy of the 3 Heathers and Heathers.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Mean Girls’ With Bill Simmons, Juliet Litman, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:29:42 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)

Clueless (1995): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Mean Girls (2004), which they produced: Clueless ⇒ Mean Girls (the host's read). Clueless brought the teen genre back and made it female; Mean Girls inherits that more female guiding hand.
    “Clueless brought the genre back and I think people missed it.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Mean Girls’ With Bill Simmons, Juliet Litman, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:07:10 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

Fast Times at Ridgemont High (1982): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Mean Girls (2004), which they produced: Fast Times at Ridgemont High ⇒ Mean Girls (the host's read). Simmons proposes a championship-belt lineage of smart teen movies starting with Fast Times and running through Mean Girls.
    “I feel like Fast Times at Ridgemont High was the 1st one.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Mean Girls’ With Bill Simmons, Juliet Litman, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:02:07 · Bill Simmons (0.85 sure it was them)

Pretty Woman (1990): 1 line

  1. industry (awards crossover) · through Mean Girls (2004), which they produced: Pretty Woman ⇒ Mean Girls (the host's read). The Vivian Award for best clothes started at the Pretty Woman rewatchables; here it is reversed for worst clothes.
    “We had the Vivian Award for best clothes in a movie that we started during the Pretty Women rewatchables”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Mean Girls’ With Bill Simmons, Juliet Litman, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:45:24 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)

The Doors (1991): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Wayne's World (1992), which they produced: The Doors ⇒ Wayne's World (the host's read). Wayne's World 2 depends on knowing Oliver Stone's The Doors, as Weird Science depends on knowing The Road Warrior.
    “We talked a lot about Wayne's World 2 and we're like, it's very, very dependent on knowing Oliver Stone's the Doors movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 1:07:39 · Kyle Brandt (0.60 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Mean Girls (2024): 3 lines

  1. unmapped (meta-joke) · through Mean Girls (2004), which they produced: Mean Girls ⇒ Mean Girls (the host's read). The new film turns the original's October 3rd meme into a meta bit by having a choir sing it.
    “they have like the choir go, it's October 3rd, you know, which like, that's at least like making a meta joke of it”
    The Big Picture · Oscar Nomination Predictions, ‘Mean Girls,’ and ‘All of Us Strangers’ With Andrew Scott · 0:53:15 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (remake) · through Mean Girls (2004), which they produced: Mean Girls ⇒ Mean Girls (the host's read). The new film reuses the original's iconic lines and jokes nearly verbatim, which Sean found a little flat because no joke lands when you know it is coming.
    “they really do it verbatim, like, and so that's weird with a joke.”
    The Big Picture · Oscar Nomination Predictions, ‘Mean Girls,’ and ‘All of Us Strangers’ With Andrew Scott · 0:52:22 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. craft (tone shift) · through Mean Girls (2004), which they produced: Mean Girls ⇒ Mean Girls (the host's read). The musical sands the edges off the Plastics and replaces bite with empowerment, a generational update on the original's Tina Fey punchline comedy.
    “the edges are sanded off the plastics. And most of the jokes don't have the same bite.”
    The Big Picture · Oscar Nomination Predictions, ‘Mean Girls,’ and ‘All of Us Strangers’ With Andrew Scott · 0:54:59 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)

Dr. Evil: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · them, directly: Lorne Michaels ⇒ Dr. Evil (the host's read). Dr. Evil mixes Pleasence's villain and Dana Carvey's Lorne Michaels impression.
    “Dr. Evil has a cross between Dono Pleasant's Bond villain and Dana Carvey's Lauren Michaels impression.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me’ With Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:32:08 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Knocked Up (2007): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Mean Girls (2004), which they produced: Mean Girls ⇒ Knocked Up (the host's read). Bill thinks Mean Girls may have been the first to figure out 'more funny than romantic, but also having the romance'.
    “I feel like mean girls might have been the 1st one that figured out.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Knocked Up’ With Bill Simmons, Juliet Litman, and Craig Horlbeck · 0:03:37 · Bill Simmons (0.85 sure it was them)

Patricia Clarkson: 1 line

  1. craft (craft) · through Mean Girls (2004), which they produced: Mean Girls ⇒ Patricia Clarkson (the host's read). Clarkson's cool-mom scene is a slight nod to Amy Poehler's cool mom in Mean Girls.
    “This is like a slight nod to mean girls, Amy Poehler, your dance is funny.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Easy A’ With Juliet Litman, Amanda Dobbins, and Shea Serrano · 1:13:41 · Juliet Litman (0.50 sure it was them)

Tombstone (1993): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Three Amigos (1986), which they produced: Three Amigos ⇒ Tombstone (the host's read). The wedding-execution opening resembles the Three Amigos setup.
    “this movie's after the 3 amigos, right?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:28:23 · Chris Ryan (0.30 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Producing (5) everyone in producing

Other (2) everyone in other

What was said about them, by kind

career (2)

  1. career (chain: SNL comeback): Fletch → Lorne Michaels. Chase's mid-80s comeback with Three Amigos reunited him with Lorne Michaels and Spies Like Us with Dan Aykroyd.
    “The 3 amigos get some back with Lorne Michaels, which is huge.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Fletch’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:10:54 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. career (career start): Howard Shore → Lorne Michaels. Shore was Saturday Night Live's first music director, a Lorne Michaels guy.
    “He is a Lorne Michaels guy who then became like weird, like thriller score guy”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 1:09:16 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

lineage (1)

  1. lineage (lineage): Dr. Evil → Lorne Michaels. Dr. Evil mixes Pleasence's villain and Dana Carvey's Lorne Michaels impression.
    “Dr. Evil has a cross between Dono Pleasant's Bond villain and Dana Carvey's Lauren Michaels impression.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me’ With Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:32:08 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (pitch/producer): Tina Fey → Lorne Michaels. Fey pitched a movie about relational aggression; Michaels asked for cool cars and clothes too.
    “He was like, okay, but could they also have cool cars and cool clothes?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Mean Girls’ With Bill Simmons, Juliet Litman, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:58:22 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

  1. fun, about Lorne Michaels: Michaels's drug advice recalled in a Chase oral history: rotate them, and coke is God's way of telling you that you have too much money.
    “Lauren used to say that coke was God's way of telling you that you have too much money.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Fletch’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:19:46 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)