Robert Duvall
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q171736: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by Wikidata joins them to The Judge, which Judging The Judge credits them on.
Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Tender Mercies (1983); Misery (1990); Seven (1995). Count them as actor (18 films) instead.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Stephen King: 2 lines
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theme (theme) · through Misery (1990), which they were tied to as suggested for Paul Sheldon:
Stephen King ⇒ Misery (the host's read).
King writing about his nightmare of a fan who takes things too far.
“Stephen King writing about, like, basically his work's nightmare”
The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft · 0:58:18 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them) -
theme (theme) · through Misery (1990), which they were tied to as suggested for Paul Sheldon:
Stephen King ⇒ Misery (the host's read).
Misery is King's book about addiction; Annie Wilkes stands for the painkillers.
“Annie Wilkes is really, she represents that, this thing that's trying to kill him.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman · 0:11:22 · Bill Simmons (0.75 sure it was them)
Alfred Hitchcock: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Alfred Hitchcock ⇒ Seven (the host's read).
Se7en is a Hitchcock movie in its pulling-your-chain structure of mystery, reveal and anxiety, and Hitchcock is Fincher's biggest influence.
“I think as much as this seems like a modern movie, it's also just completely a Hitchcock movie in so many ways.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:14:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)
All That Jazz (1979): 1 line
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lineage (cited influence) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
All That Jazz ⇒ Seven (the maker said so).
A host recalls a Fincher film the show covered where he cited All That Jazz as an inspiration for the look, maybe Seven.
“where he cited how much of an inspiration all that jazz was for him for the look of the movie?”
Blank Check — Patreon · David Fincher Music Videos · 1:13:07 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Forgetting Sarah Marshall (2008): 1 line
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programming (programming) · through Misery (1990), which they were tied to as suggested for Paul Sheldon:
Forgetting Sarah Marshall ⇒ Misery (the host's read).
Dracula the Musical award is borrowed from Sarah Marshall; given to the Misery books.
“We relate, so in, in, uh, forgetting Sarah Marshall.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman · 0:57:17 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
Klute: 1 line
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lineage (visual inspiration) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Klute ⇒ Seven (the maker said so).
The speaker watched Klute because Fincher and DP Darius Khondji cited it as an inspiration for Se7en's dark look and flashlight-led framing.
“I watched Clute over the weekend because I know that both Fincher and Darius Conji, the DP, had cited that as an inspiration”
Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 2:38:58 · Nick Wiger or Mike Mitchell (unresolved) (0.30 sure it was them)
Pulp Fiction (1994): 1 line
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programming (programming) · through Misery (1990), which they were tied to as suggested for Paul Sheldon:
Pulp Fiction ⇒ Misery (the host's read).
Butch's Girlfriend Award for weak link of the film is borrowed from Pulp Fiction.
“The Butch's girlfriend Award, Butch's girlfriend from Pulp Fiction.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman · 0:59:07 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
Stand by Me (1986): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Misery (1990), which they were tied to as suggested for Paul Sheldon:
Stand by Me ⇒ Misery (the host's read).
King's first adaptation he liked was Stand By Me; Reiner got Misery through that deal.
“the 1st one of the 1st adaptation of his that he actually really liked was stand by me.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman · 0:11:08 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
William Friedkin: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
William Friedkin ⇒ Seven (the maker said so).
Fincher drew from Friedkin and wanted it to feel like an episode of Cops.
“he's drawn from like Friedkin, but he's also, he's, he's referenced like how he wanted it to feel like an episode of cops.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:15:42 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Fight Club (1999): 2 lines
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career (career) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read).
Without Se7en's power Fincher does not get to do The Game and Fight Club his way.
“I think without this movie, he doesn't go on this run”
The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:27:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them) -
career (career lever) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read).
Se7en's success is what let Fincher make the seemingly impossible Fight Club.
“But the fight club is him more being like, okay, guys, I know this seems impossible, but I made seven.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 1:05:55 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
The Game (1997): 2 lines
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unmapped (R-rated proof) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ The Game (the host's read).
Se7en's hit status as an R-rated film convinced the backers to fund The Game.
“I think convinced, um, people like, okay, like, you can make an R-rated movie a hit.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:33:16 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (commercial lead-in) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ The Game (the host's read).
Se7en's success gave Fincher an absurd budget for The Game.
“this is better for me because now I can make this movie at an absurd budget.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:47:35 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
8mm (1999): 1 line
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lineage (rip-off) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ 8mm (the host's read).
Calls 8mm Schumacher ripping off Se7en.
“8 millimeter is Schumacher ripping off seven.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:41:48 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Crazy Heart (2009): 1 line
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lineage (remake feel) · through Tender Mercies (1983), which they were tied to as People magazine called him America's number one number two:
Tender Mercies ⇒ Crazy Heart (the host's read).
Crazy Heart is Bridges doing Tender Mercies, only worse.
“Oh, Crazy Hearts also kind of just him doing tender mercies, though.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 1:48:38 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
MTV Movie Awards Se7en parody: 1 line
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unmapped (parody) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ MTV Movie Awards Se7en parody (the host's read).
The MTV Movie Awards parodied the Se7en ending with William Shatner playing every role and the head in the box.
“And then Shatner's head is in the box and then he sings a song.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 2:34:40 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Nine Inch Nails: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ Nine Inch Nails (the host's read).
Se7en caught industrial rock at its peak and led to Fincher-Reznor scores.
“Fincher and Rezner go on to make this incredible partnership”
The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:55:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.45 sure it was them)
Saw (film series): 1 line
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unmapped (borrowing) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ Saw (film series) (the host's read).
Rewatching the Saw movies, the speaker was struck by how much they lifted from Se7en.
“I forgot how much saw stole.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 0:59:00 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
The Batman (2022): 1 line
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unmapped (borrowing) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ The Batman (the host's read).
The speaker had forgotten how indebted The Batman is to Fincher, mostly to Se7en.
“I had forgotten just how indebted the Batman is to...”
Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 1:28:34 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
True Detective (2014): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ True Detective (the host's read).
Se7en's influence shows in True Detective from the title sequence to the characters, though True Detective's first season flinches at the dark ending.
“you can see the influence of of 7 on things like True Detective from the title sequence to the characters.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:15:19 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them)
Zodiac (2007): 1 line
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unmapped (why Fincher was offered it) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read).
Seven made Fincher the first choice for any serial-killer project, Zodiac included.
“Ever since he makes seven, if there's some serial killer movie, is getting sent it”
Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac with Leslye Headland (Ad-Free) · 0:51:53 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
later crime thrillers and crime TV (unnamed): 1 line
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lineage (genre influence) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Somerset:
Seven ⇒ later crime thrillers and crime TV (unnamed) (the host's read).
As an adult the speaker is less shocked by Se7en because everyone since took a page out of its book.
“I'm not as shocked by 7 because everyone took a page out of its book, of course.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 2:15:39 · Mike Mitchell (0.50 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Acting (22) everyone in acting
- star, Tender Mercies (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Dune with John Hodgman)
- actor (Oscar nominee), The Apostle (Blank Check with Griffin & David, As Good as It Gets with Chris Gethard)
- star (Oscar-nominated), The Judge (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Judging The Judge)
- winner, Tender Mercies (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Judging The Judge)
- nominee, A Civil Action (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Judging The Judge)
- actor and director, The Apostle (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Judging The Judge)
- star, Open Range (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Judging The Judge)
- star, Get Low (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Judging The Judge)
- cast (Tom Hagen), The Godfather (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Judging The Judge)
- cast, Jack Reacher (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Judging The Judge)
- cast, The Gingerbread Man (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Judging The Judge)
- cast, Lucky You (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Judging The Judge)
- cast, Wild Horses (Duvall/Franco) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Judging The Judge)
- actor, A Civil Action (The Rewatchables, ‘Domestic Disturbance’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- actor, The Natural (The Rewatchables, ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin)
- actor, Days of Thunder (The Big Picture, The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame)
- star, Killer Elite (Blank Check — Patreon, Barry Lyndon with Karina Longworth (Ad-Free))
- cast, Network (Blank Check — Patreon, Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free))
- cast, The Godfather (Blank Check — Patreon, Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free))
- cast, Apocalypse Now (Blank Check — Patreon, Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free))
- cast, To Kill a Mockingbird (Blank Check — Patreon, Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free))
- cast, M*A*S*H (Blank Check — Patreon, Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free))
Other (4) everyone in other
- suggested for Paul Sheldon, Misery (The Rewatchables, ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman)
- reportedly turned down Somerset, Seven (The Rewatchables, ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- reportedly passed on a lead, Seven (Blank Check — Patreon, Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free))
- People magazine called him America's number one number two, Tender Mercies (Blank Check — Patreon, Barry Lyndon with Karina Longworth (Ad-Free))
What was said about them, by kind
career (2)
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career (career-comparison):
Robert Duvall → Robert De Niro.
Duvall phoning it in beats De Niro sleepwalking or Pacino just yelling.
“De Niro, when he's phoning it in, really is sleepwalking. Chino, when he's phoning it in, is just yelling.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Judging The Judge · 1:18:10 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career-comparison):
Robert Duvall → Jack Reacher.
If he deserves a nomination for The Judge he deserves one for every film of the last 20 years, since he is no better than in Jack Reacher.
“he is no better or worse in the judge than he is in Jack Reacher.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Judging The Judge · 1:19:23 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
industry (1)
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industry (awards-rival):
Robert Duvall → Birdman.
Duvall's Supporting Actor nomination sat beside stronger work from Norton in Birdman, Hawke in Boyhood, Ruffalo in Foxcatcher and Simmons in Whiplash.
“he's nominated with Edward Norton for Birdman. one of his finest performances in a movie.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Judging The Judge · 1:16:15 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
people (4)
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people (great-performance):
Robert Duvall → Open Range.
Cited as better recent Duvall work than The Judge.
“You know what he's fantastic in his open range?”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Judging The Judge · 1:17:16 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (actor-director):
Robert Duvall → The Apostle.
Duvall directed The Apostle, a terrific film he is superb in that nobody talks about now.
“He directed that film. That's a terrific film.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Judging The Judge · 1:17:32 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (great-performance):
Robert Duvall → The Godfather.
Duvall's restrained Tom Hagen is held up as proof Oscars do not simply nominate him for everything.
“Oh, Tom Hagen is one of my favorite characters ever.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Judging The Judge · 1:18:26 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (performance comparison):
George C. Scott → Robert Duvall.
Scott is likened to Duvall in Network for walking a line of overacting with a foot in reality.
“He's kind of the Deval of this movie where he's like, he's towing a really fine line of like overacting, but with like a foot in reality”
Blank Check — Patreon · Dr. Strangelove... with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 0:33:41 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
what-if (2)
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what-if (what-if):
Misery → Robert Duvall.
Duvall at about the age of Sheldon, around when he turned down Godfather 3.
“It was right around when he turned down Godfather 3”
The Rewatchables · ‘Misery’ With Bill Simmons and Brian Koppelman · 0:36:29 · Brian Koppelman (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Robert Duvall → Seven.
Duvall and Hackman both reportedly turned down Somerset.
“Duval and Gene Hackman both turned down the part of Somerset, apparently, allegedly.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:01:21 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
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fun, about
Robert Duvall:
Duvall is such a classic Duvall that the hosts would rather see a movie of him as a Judge Judy-style town judge, even a reality show.
“I would go show up to watch him, dude. I would watch the reality show.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Judging The Judge · 0:55:30 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)