Andrew Sarris

Cited on the shows, as a critic is, not present.

Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Citizen Kane (1941); 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968).

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Herman Mankiewicz: 1 line

  1. unmapped (adapting lived experience) · through Citizen Kane (1941), which they were tied to as critic ('rediscovers' Kane; auteur theory): Herman Mankiewicz ⇒ Citizen Kane (the host's read). Sean says Citizen Kane is Welles adapting an experience Herman Mankiewicz had inside the Hearst circle.
    “so in a way, this is him adapting an experience that Herman Mankowitz had”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Mank with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 0:41:24 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

The Sentinel (short story): 1 line

  1. lineage (source story) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: The Sentinel (short story) ⇒ 2001: A Space Odyssey (the host's read). The film and companion novel drafted off Clarke's short story The Sentinel, which had the germ of the monolith idea.
    “So it's going off drafting off of the Sentinel.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:52:22 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

William Randolph Hearst: 1 line

  1. unmapped (subject) · through Citizen Kane (1941), which they were tied to as critic ('rediscovers' Kane; auteur theory): William Randolph Hearst ⇒ Citizen Kane (the host's read). Mankiewicz's script was a thinly veiled attack on his friend Hearst.
    “I'm going to make fun of my my pal, Jordan, you know, William Randall first.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Mank with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 0:39:21 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

2010: The Year We Make Contact (1984): 5 lines

  1. lineage (sequel) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ 2010: The Year We Make Contact (the host's read). The film has a sequel, and Clarke wrote three sequel novels.
    “Obviously, the sequel exists.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:11:43 · Jordan Hoffman (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ 2010: The Year We Make Contact (the host's read). 2010 tries to answer Kubrick's questions and is more loyal to Arthur C. Clarke's ideas.
    “it's much more... As I remember loyal to Arthur C. Clark's science fiction ideas”
    The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:26:18 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ 2010: The Year We Make Contact (the host's read). 2010 was made because the novel sequel existed, a movie made just because they had to.
    “Because Arthur C. Clark had come out with a 2010 novel.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 2:54:20 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. lineage (sequel) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ 2010: The Year We Make Contact (the host's read). 2010 is the sequel to 2001; the speaker's reaction to the Kubrick film is the benchmark throughout.
    “And I said, oh, you know, 2010, the sequel to 2001 and they were like, the what?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:02:34 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. craft (borrowed music) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ 2010: The Year We Make Contact (the host's read). The only thing 2010 borrows from 2001, apart from plotting, is the music, including the Zarathustra drop at the end.
    “Yeah, is the music.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:07:40 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Jack Kirby: 2 lines

  1. unmapped (led to Fourth World) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ Jack Kirby (the host's read). Kirby's Fourth World is said to come out of his 2001 work.
    “Yeah, and I think like 4th world essentially comes out of it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 2:12:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (comic adaptation) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ Jack Kirby (the host's read). Kirby's Marvel series began by adapting the movie in its first three issues, then went its own way.
    “Like, the 1st 3 issues are the movie... and he went bananas with it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 2:12:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Mank (2020): 2 lines

  1. lineage (visual influence) · through Citizen Kane (1941), which they were tied to as critic ('rediscovers' Kane; auteur theory): Citizen Kane ⇒ Mank (the maker said so: David's interview with cinematographer Erik Messerschmidt). Messerschmidt told the interviewer he wanted low, deep-focus photography evoking Citizen Kane, not noir.
    “He's like, no, I want to do it low to the ground, lots of deep focus, evoking citizen Kane.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Mank with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 1:13:08 · David Sims (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (subject / source) · through Citizen Kane (1941), which they were tied to as critic ('rediscovers' Kane; auteur theory): Citizen Kane ⇒ Mank (the host's read). Mank is partly inspired by Pauline Kael's essay on who truly authored Citizen Kane.
    “it's in part inspired by that very famous Pauline Kale, story raising Kane, about the true authorship of Citizen Kane”
    The Big Picture · Emergency Mailbag: The Oscars Are Streaming and Hollywood Is Fighting Over Trolls | The Big Picture · 0:58:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)

Silent Running (1972): 2 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ Silent Running (the host's read). 2001 spawned heady, serious, clean sci-fi like Silent Running.
    “2001 leads to a spat of things like silent running, you know, these movies that are like very heady.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 1:12:45 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (wave of imitators) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ Silent Running (the host's read). After 2001 came a wave of slower sci-fi imitators, naming Silent Running and Capricorn One.
    “But it is funny, like after this, there's a wave of imitators, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:42:30 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

2010 (1984): 1 line

  1. lineage (sequel) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ 2010 (the host's read). Peter Hyams made a film sequel to 2001, following the books.
    “But, like, he rolled up his sleeves and he was like, 2001?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 2:48:04 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

2069: A Sex Odyssey: 1 line

  1. lineage (influence) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ 2069: A Sex Odyssey (the host's read). The porn parody is said to be very influenced by 2001.
    “actually is actually very influenced by this film.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:42:56 · Jordan Hoffman (0.30 sure it was them)

A Clockwork Orange (1971): 1 line

  1. unmapped (self-reference) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ A Clockwork Orange (the host's read). The record store scene shows the 2001 soundtrack, which the speakers read as Kubrick nodding at his own movie.
    “but he's kind of like being like, guys, I made that movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · A Clockwork Orange with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:44:54 · Alex Ross Perry (0.50 sure it was them)

Ad Astra (2019): 1 line

  1. unmapped (cribbing) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ Ad Astra (the host's read). Ad Astra is called the one other film that feels realistic about space travel, and it cribs from 2001.
    “is cribbing from it so much where like the way at Astra depicts space travel”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 1:41:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Being There (1979): 1 line

  1. theme (theme reused) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ Being There (the host's read). Being There used a funky version of 2001's Zarathustra theme for its big moment.
    “they were going to play the also Sprack Zarathustra, but they did the funky version instead”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 1:37:23 · Jordan Hoffman (0.50 sure it was them)

David Fincher: 1 line

  1. unmapped (early commercial reference) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ David Fincher (the host's read). At 24 Fincher used a baby smoking, a 2001 reference, in an American Cancer Society ad.
    “a baby smoking a cigarette as a, as a, as a reference to 2001 is incredibly powerful iconography”
    The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:17:15 · Adam Nayman (0.85 sure it was them)

Elvis Presley: 1 line

  1. craft (music borrowed) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ Elvis Presley (the host's read). Elvis took the Zarathustra overture from the film almost immediately and opened his concerts with it.
    “Almost immediately after the movie took this took the music.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 1:38:21 · Jordan Hoffman (0.40 sure it was them)

History of the World, Part I (1981): 1 line

  1. unmapped (parody) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ History of the World, Part I (the host's read). Monty Python and History of the World Part I did 2001 parodies.
    “they did 2001 of Space Odyssey parodies. History of the World Part one.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 0:28:00 · Jordan Hoffman (0.60 sure it was them)

Oh Father (Madonna video): 1 line

  1. unmapped (tribute) · through Citizen Kane (1941), which they were tied to as critic ('rediscovers' Kane; auteur theory): Citizen Kane ⇒ Oh Father (Madonna video) (the host's read). Oh Father is called Fincher's first Citizen Kane tribute.
    “This was his 1st Citizen Kane tribute.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · David Fincher Music Videos · 1:17:07 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

The Shining (1980): 1 line

  1. unmapped (led to Kubrick mythology) · through 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), which they were tied to as critic who savaged the film: 2001: A Space Odyssey ⇒ The Shining (the host's read). 2001 is the reason for Kubrick's godlike mythology, without which people would invest less in The Shining.
    “I don't think people would invest as much into The Shining if this movie didn't exist.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2001: A Space Odyssey with Jordan Hoffman (Ad-Free) · 1:01:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

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What was said about them, by kind

No claims join them to a film or another person.

Fun items about them

None.