Jeff Cronenweth
Made films the shows talk about.
Counted as cinematographer. The films the hosts said they shot, which the two lists below run through too: Blade Runner (1982); Stop Making Sense (1984); Fight Club (1999); The Social Network (2010); The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011); Fincher's Freedom and Nine Inch Nails videos.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Mark Zuckerberg: 2 lines
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lineage (verbatim source) · through The Social Network (2010), which they shot:
Mark Zuckerberg ⇒ The Social Network (the maker said so).
Sorkin says a larger share of the movie than people expect is lifted directly from depositions and emails; the speaker reports he has pointed this out.
“But that's always a big thing he's pointed out is like a larger percentage of the movie that people, than people would expect is me just using direct transcripts verbatim.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:27:56 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them) -
lineage (verbatim source) · through The Social Network (2010), which they shot:
Mark Zuckerberg ⇒ The Social Network (the host's read).
The Facebook-creation blog post is almost entirely verbatim in the movie.
“It's almost entirely verbatim in the movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:48:25 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
Seven (1995): 2 lines
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career (career) · through Fight Club (1999), which they shot:
Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read).
Without Se7en's power Fincher does not get to do The Game and Fight Club his way.
“I think without this movie, he doesn't go on this run”
The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:27:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them) -
career (career lever) · through Fight Club (1999), which they shot:
Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read).
Se7en's success is what let Fincher make the seemingly impossible Fight Club.
“But the fight club is him more being like, okay, guys, I know this seems impossible, but I made seven.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 1:05:55 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Blue Velvet (1986): 1 line
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unmapped (quoted line) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they shot:
Blue Velvet ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read).
The fuck-you-you-fucking-fuck shirt is believed to originate from Dennis Hopper's line in Blue Velvet.
“Hopper says that in blue velvet.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:24:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Chuck Palahniuk: 1 line
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lineage (adaptation) · through Fight Club (1999), which they shot:
Chuck Palahniuk ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read).
The film adapts Palahniuk's novel; the speaker says the screenplay cribs straight from the book.
“obviously the movie is, the book is very, he's cribbing right from the book.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:13:14 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Douglas Coupland: 1 line
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lineage (literary lineage) · through Fight Club (1999), which they shot:
Douglas Coupland ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read).
The speaker says the early car-recall section is right out of Coupland and Gen X writing.
“It's right out of like Douglas Copeland or whatever, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:59:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Kevin Spacey: 1 line
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unmapped (brought Fincher on) · through The Social Network (2010), which they shot:
Kevin Spacey ⇒ The Social Network (the host's read).
The hosts say Spacey optioned the book and got Fincher on board.
“And was the one who got Fincher on board.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:06:00 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Stieg Larsson: 1 line
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lineage (adaptation) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they shot:
Stieg Larsson ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read).
The film is Zaillian's abridged adaptation of Larsson's novel, which loses nothing major.
“I think this is an excellent piece of adaptation that does not really, like, skip anything major.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:49:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Sven Nykvist: 1 line
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craft (visual reference) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they shot:
Sven Nykvist ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the maker said so).
Someone on the shoot (Fincher, or the DP by the garbled name) wanted a Sven Nykvist look: warm fires, cold rooms.
“I wanted to do a whole Sven Nikfist thing”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:11:05 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) (2009): 1 line
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lineage (remake) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they shot:
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read).
The Fincher film is the American remake of the Swedish original; its director says he was not worried.
“Everyone who loves film will go see the original.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:54:19 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
The Social Network (2010): 1 line, within their own work
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people (casting led to) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they shot:
The Social Network ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read).
Pascal saw the dailies from The Social Network and picked Rooney Mara for Lisbeth Salander.
“Pascal basically sees the dailies from this movie and is like, Rooney Morris, Elizabeth Salander.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:59:02 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Panic Room (2002): 3 lines
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career (career) · through Fight Club (1999), which they shot:
Fight Club ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
Panic Room read as a small antidote to the response to Fight Club.
“This seemed like a little bit of an antidote to that because what's panic room about.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:19:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Fight Club (1999), which they shot:
Fight Club ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
The inside-the-house camera moves Fincher started in Fight Club are fully developed in Panic Room.
“And there's a lot of like stuff that he had started to do a little bit with Fight Club is like really like fleshed out in panic room”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:20:53 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them) -
unmapped (response to) · through Fight Club (1999), which they shot:
Fight Club ⇒ Panic Room (the host's read).
A host says Panic Room is a conscious response to Fight Club, which flopped and tried to be about everything.
“Yes. And I feel like it's a very conscious response to fight club.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 0:24:52 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016): 2 lines
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theme (character template) · through The Social Network (2010), which they shot:
The Social Network ⇒ Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (the maker said so).
Snyder's reported reasoning: the modern-day Lex Luthor would be Mark Zuckerberg.
“yeah, the modern day Lex Luthor would be Mark Zuckerberg.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:44:07 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (casting led to) · through The Social Network (2010), which they shot:
The Social Network ⇒ Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (the host's read).
Snyder offered Eisenberg Jimmy Olsen in BvS in the wake of The Social Network.
“Zack Snyder offers, uh, Jimmy Olsen. to Jesse Eisenberg in the wake of this movie, for BVS.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:43:43 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
Deadpool 2 (2018): 1 line
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unmapped (joke template) · through Fight Club (1999), which they shot:
Fight Club ⇒ Deadpool 2 (the host's read).
A joke that Fight Club is the template Deadpool perfected.
“I walked so that Deadpool could run.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:59:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Friends with Benefits: 1 line
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people (casting led to) · through The Social Network (2010), which they shot:
The Social Network ⇒ Friends with Benefits (the host's read).
Pascal watched The Social Network early and committed to more Timberlake pictures.
“It's like Pascal watches this movie early and it's like, you know what? 'm wrong. Justin Timberlake, we're all in.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:58:52 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
Gone Girl (2014): 1 line
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people (casting approach) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they shot:
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo ⇒ Gone Girl (the host's read).
The speaker thinks Fincher's exhaustive casting search on Dragon Tattoo informed how he cast Amy with someone new to the audience.
“that exhaustive casting search, which I do think informs the way he approaches Amy going into this movie as well”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:55:22 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
In Time: 1 line
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people (casting led to) · through The Social Network (2010), which they shot:
The Social Network ⇒ In Time (the host's read).
Pascal watched The Social Network early and committed to more Timberlake pictures.
“It's like Pascal watches this movie early and it's like, you know what? 'm wrong. Justin Timberlake, we're all in.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:58:52 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
Steve Jobs (2015): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Social Network (2010), which they shot:
The Social Network ⇒ Steve Jobs (the host's read).
Steve Jobs is called a worthy sequel to The Social Network on big tech and innovation.
“I think this is in many ways a worthy sequel to the social network”
The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:56:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
The Big Short (2015): 1 line
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lineage (ripped off) · through The Social Network (2010), which they shot:
The Social Network ⇒ The Big Short (the host's read).
David says The Big Short is the most obvious movie ripping off The Social Network, and that people do not make the connection enough.
“I think the big short, which is not a movie I love, is the most obvious movie that's ripping off the social network, even though people maybe don't make that connection enough.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:11:44 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them)
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011): 1 line, within their own work
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people (casting led to) · through The Social Network (2010), which they shot:
The Social Network ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read).
Pascal saw the dailies from The Social Network and picked Rooney Mara for Lisbeth Salander.
“Pascal basically sees the dailies from this movie and is like, Rooney Morris, Elizabeth Salander.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:59:02 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Photography (7) everyone in photography
- cinematographer, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- cinematographer, The Social Network (Blank Check — Patreon, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free))
- director of photography (transcript: 'Jordan Kronowith' / 'Cronin'), The Social Network (Blank Check — Patreon, The Social Network (Ad-Free))
- cinematographer (DP), Fight Club (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien 3)
- camera team, Fincher's Freedom and Nine Inch Nails videos (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien 3)
- assistant camera (first credit), Stop Making Sense (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien 3)
- camera loader (said of Jordan's era; correction: he did not work on Alien 3), Blade Runner (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien 3)
What was said about them, by kind
people (1)
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people (shared cinematographer):
Jeff Cronenweth → The Social Network.
Fincher fired the Swedish DP and brought in Cronenweth, his Social Network collaborator.
“brought in Jeff Cronin with his social network collaborator.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:10:44 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
unmapped (4)
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unmapped (photography):
Jeff Cronenweth → The Social Network.
Cronenweth (transcribed Kronowith) is the DP quoted on the mime and the guerrilla lighting cart.
“But Cronin, the DP was basically saying like, it's great that on like a $40000000 studio movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 2:43:44 · Griffin Newman (0.35 sure it was them) -
unmapped (father and son):
Jordan Cronenweth → Jeff Cronenweth.
Jeff, Fincher's DP, is Jordan's son and started on Blade Runner as camera loader.
“like he was like a camera loader on Blade Runner”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 1:06:13 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (shared DP):
Jeff Cronenweth → David Fincher.
Jeff worked the camera team on Fincher's videos and became DP on Fight Club.
“But then he takes he becomes DP on Fight Club.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 1:06:32 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
unmapped (first credit):
Jeff Cronenweth → Stop Making Sense.
Jeff's first credit was assistant camera on Stop Making Sense.
“His 1st credit ever stopped making sense.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 1:06:51 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
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fun, about
Jeff Cronenweth:
Fincher's go-to DP began as camera crew on Fincher's videos; his first credit ever was on Stop Making Sense.
“His 1st credit ever stopped making sense.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 1:06:51 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)