Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
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Wikidata Q14772351, film, IMDb tt2975590, TMDB 209112: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only film by that title; 2 more episodes agree.
What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.
Who talked about it
Blank Check — Patreon
- David Sims: 1 line in Marvel Nerdfest
- Griffin Newman: 1 line in The Lego Batman Movie
- Unattributed: 5 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
The Big Picture
- Sean Fennessey: 1 line in 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU With David F. Sandberg | Interview
- Unattributed: 1 line, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
The Social Network: 2 lines the maker said so ×1 the host's read ×1
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theme (character template):
The Social Network ⇒ Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (the maker said so).
Snyder's reported reasoning: the modern-day Lex Luthor would be Mark Zuckerberg.
“yeah, the modern day Lex Luthor would be Mark Zuckerberg.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:44:07 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Gone Girl: 1 line the host's read ×1
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people (led to casting):
Gone Girl ⇒ Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (the host's read).
While making Gone Girl, Affleck reportedly joked to his agent that he needed a heroic-chin movie after the evil-chin one.
“the joke was the chin things in the script, he calls up his agent, while making Gone Girl, and says, like, I'm doing the evil chin movie now, you got to find me a heroic chin movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:06:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Max Landis: 1 line the host's read ×1
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people (performance model):
Max Landis ⇒ Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (the host's read).
David's pet theory is that Eisenberg chose to play Max Landis as Lex Luthor.
“It also feels like he chose to play Max Landis more than he chose to play.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:44:48 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
No line says another film or person drew on it.
Connected to
The Social Network: 2 lines people ×1 theme ×1
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theme (character template):
The Social Network → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
Snyder's reported reasoning: the modern-day Lex Luthor would be Mark Zuckerberg.
“yeah, the modern day Lex Luthor would be Mark Zuckerberg.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:44:07 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Gone Girl: 1 line people ×1
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people (led to casting):
Gone Girl → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
While making Gone Girl, Affleck reportedly joked to his agent that he needed a heroic-chin movie after the evil-chin one.
“the joke was the chin things in the script, he calls up his agent, while making Gone Girl, and says, like, I'm doing the evil chin movie now, you got to find me a heroic chin movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:06:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Man of Steel: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (craft):
Man of Steel → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
BvS's newscaster lines patching the Metropolis destruction from Man of Steel show DC's lack of confidence.
“that kind of thing shows the lack of confidence that DC really has in its voice”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:30:16 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)
Max Landis: 1 line people ×1
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people (performance model):
Max Landis → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
David's pet theory is that Eisenberg chose to play Max Landis as Lex Luthor.
“It also feels like he chose to play Max Landis more than he chose to play.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:44:48 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)
Shazam!: 1 line contrast ×1
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contrast (contrast):
Shazam! → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
Fennessey says Shazam!'s tone differs significantly from Superman versus Batman and the Justice League films.
“I think tonally this movie is pretty significantly different from Superman versus Batman and the Justice League films”
The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU With David F. Sandberg | Interview · 0:03:02 · Sean Fennessey (0.90 sure it was them)
The Incredible Hulk: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (craft):
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice → The Incredible Hulk.
The Abomination, like BvS's Doomsday, looks like a mud monster with no texture.
“It's the same problem as Doomsday in Batman versus Superman, where it's just like, he just looks like a mud monster.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:33:33 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
The Lego Batman Movie: 1 line contrast ×1
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contrast (contrast):
The Lego Batman Movie → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
Seeing Batman and Superman together here does not provoke the same cynicism as it did in Batman v Superman.
“I don't give a shit, like, about in the same way I did in Batman V Superman.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:47:32 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
Zack Snyder: 1 line verdict ×1
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verdict (verdict):
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice → Zack Snyder.
BvS underperformed because Snyder's vision is specific and does not cross over to kids.
“BVS does not make a $1000000000, which it should objectively.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Marvel Nerdfest · 0:13:24 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- anecdote in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Miami Vice - Pilot Episode, first at 0:07:20, 2 times
- compared in The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU With David F. Sandberg | Interview, first at 0:01:35, 2 times
- compared in The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35), first at 0:20:42, 3 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free), first at 0:56:36, 2 times
- anecdote in Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free), first at 0:43:50, 1 time
- compared in Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie, first at 0:47:32, 3 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Marvel Nerdfest, first at 0:13:24, 1 time
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier, first at 1:28:13, 1 time
- compared in Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk, first at 1:33:33, 1 time
What was said about it, by kind
contrast (2)
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contrast (contrast):
Shazam! → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
Fennessey says Shazam!'s tone differs significantly from Superman versus Batman and the Justice League films.
“I think tonally this movie is pretty significantly different from Superman versus Batman and the Justice League films”
The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU With David F. Sandberg | Interview · 0:03:02 · Sean Fennessey (0.90 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
The Lego Batman Movie → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
Seeing Batman and Superman together here does not provoke the same cynicism as it did in Batman v Superman.
“I don't give a shit, like, about in the same way I did in Batman V Superman.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:47:32 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
craft (2)
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craft (craft):
Man of Steel → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
BvS's newscaster lines patching the Metropolis destruction from Man of Steel show DC's lack of confidence.
“that kind of thing shows the lack of confidence that DC really has in its voice”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:30:16 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice → The Incredible Hulk.
The Abomination, like BvS's Doomsday, looks like a mud monster with no texture.
“It's the same problem as Doomsday in Batman versus Superman, where it's just like, he just looks like a mud monster.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:33:33 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
people (3)
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people (led to casting):
Gone Girl → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
While making Gone Girl, Affleck reportedly joked to his agent that he needed a heroic-chin movie after the evil-chin one.
“the joke was the chin things in the script, he calls up his agent, while making Gone Girl, and says, like, I'm doing the evil chin movie now, you got to find me a heroic chin movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:06:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
people (casting led to):
The Social Network → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
Snyder offered Eisenberg Jimmy Olsen in BvS in the wake of The Social Network.
“Zack Snyder offers, uh, Jimmy Olsen. to Jesse Eisenberg in the wake of this movie, for BVS.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:43:43 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them) -
people (performance model):
Max Landis → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
David's pet theory is that Eisenberg chose to play Max Landis as Lex Luthor.
“It also feels like he chose to play Max Landis more than he chose to play.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:44:48 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them)
theme (1)
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theme (character template):
The Social Network → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
Snyder's reported reasoning: the modern-day Lex Luthor would be Mark Zuckerberg.
“yeah, the modern day Lex Luthor would be Mark Zuckerberg.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:44:07 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
verdict (1)
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verdict (verdict):
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice → Zack Snyder.
BvS underperformed because Snyder's vision is specific and does not cross over to kids.
“BVS does not make a $1000000000, which it should objectively.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Marvel Nerdfest · 0:13:24 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
None.
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- Jon Hamm: considered for Batman (Blank Check — Patreon, Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free))
- Ben Affleck: Batman (Blank Check — Patreon, Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free))
- Josh Brolin: Snyder's top choice for Batman, per the speakers (Blank Check — Patreon, Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free))
- Jesse Eisenberg: actor (Lex Luthor) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Social Network (Ad-Free))
- Jesse Eisenberg: offered Jimmy Olsen (declined) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Social Network (Ad-Free))
- Zack Snyder: creator of the 'stormy visual aesthetic' of earlier DC films (The Big Picture, 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU With David F. Sandberg | Interview)
- Zack Snyder: director (Blank Check — Patreon, Marvel Nerdfest)
- Zack Snyder: director (The Big Picture, The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35))
- Zack Snyder: director (Blank Check — Patreon, Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free))
- Zack Snyder: director (Blank Check — Patreon, The Social Network (Ad-Free))
- Max Landis: subject of David's pet theory about the Lex Luthor performance (Blank Check — Patreon, The Social Network (Ad-Free))
- Mark Zuckerberg: reported by the speakers as Snyder's modern-day Lex Luthor template (Blank Check — Patreon, The Social Network (Ad-Free))