Peter Jackson
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q4465: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by Wikidata joins them to The Beatles: Get Back, which ‘Elvis,’ ‘Walk Hard’ and Top Five Music Biopics credits them on.
Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Alien Resurrection (1997); Planet of the Apes (2001). Count them as director (7 films) instead.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Alien 3 (1992): 2 lines
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lineage (sequel undoes ending) · through Alien Resurrection (1997), which they were tied to as approached to direct:
Alien 3 ⇒ Alien Resurrection (the host's read).
Resurrection brings Ripley back as a clone, which undoes Alien 3's chosen death.
“My nuclear take is bringing her back to life as a clone is more disrespectful than killing, uh, hicks and newt in this movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 2:06:26 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (sequel) · through Alien Resurrection (1997), which they were tied to as approached to direct:
Alien 3 ⇒ Alien Resurrection (the host's read).
Resurrection follows Alien 3, but its Ripley is a different character from the one who died.
“As much as she was quote unquote resurrected, obviously, that's a different character explicitly.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 0:24:13 · David Sims (0.30 sure it was them)
Planet of the Apes (1968): 2 lines
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contrast (inversion) · through Planet of the Apes (2001), which they were tied to as pitched a Renaissance-set Apes film:
Planet of the Apes ⇒ Planet of the Apes (the host's read).
The remake opens on a loud, leafy backlot set while the original opens in an empty desert with no apes for a long stretch.
“They totally invert the original movie where the original movie starts in the middle of nowhere.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:53:06 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Planet of the Apes (2001), which they were tied to as pitched a Renaissance-set Apes film:
Planet of the Apes ⇒ Planet of the Apes (the host's read).
Burton's ending tries to outdo the Statue of Liberty reveal of the original.
“Because they're trying to outdo the reveal of like the Statue of Liberty at the end.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:39:14 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
Dogville shorts (1930s-40s live-action dog shorts): 1 line
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industry (studio instinct) · through Planet of the Apes (2001), which they were tied to as pitched a Renaissance-set Apes film:
Dogville shorts (1930s-40s live-action dog shorts) ⇒ Planet of the Apes (the host's read).
Fox just wanted apes doing human things, like the old Dogville shorts with dogs at restaurant tables.
“And it feels like Fox just wanted to make that.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:12:43 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
Goldfinger: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Alien Resurrection (1997), which they were tied to as approached to direct:
Goldfinger ⇒ Alien Resurrection (the host's read).
The newborn alien sucked out the window repeats the Goldfinger ending, but sad.
“it's the goldfinger ending.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 1:55:38 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Bear City (SNL digital short): 1 line
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unmapped (parody) · through Planet of the Apes (2001), which they were tied to as pitched a Renaissance-set Apes film:
Planet of the Apes ⇒ Bear City (SNL digital short) (the host's read).
An SNL short riffs on Apes with bears who just wear human clothes and mimic humans, like the apes keeping the Lincoln Memorial.
“they were riff on Plan of the Apes, where the bears got smart and they decided to kill all the humans.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:24:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Firefly (TV): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Alien Resurrection (1997), which they were tied to as approached to direct:
Alien Resurrection ⇒ Firefly (TV) (the host's read).
The Betty's space-pirate crew reads as proto-Firefly, Whedon's later show.
“I mean, some proto firefly stuff.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:31:00 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Jurassic Park (1993): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Alien Resurrection (1997), which they were tied to as approached to direct:
Alien Resurrection ⇒ Jurassic Park (the host's read).
Aliens caged and taunted while hunting you feels like the raptors; raptors may be Alien rip-offs.
“the raptors have a bit of an alien rip off vibe, honestly”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:46:01 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Directing (11) everyone in directing
- director who tapped Howard Shore, The Lord of the Rings (Blank Check with Griffin & David, After Hours with Alison Sivitz)
- director, The Lord of the Rings (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World with John Hodgman)
- director, pitched NZ locations, The Lord of the Rings (Blank Check with Griffin & David, An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens)
- director, Heavenly Creatures (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- director, King Kong (The Big Picture, ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained?)
- director (named as 'Jackson'), The Beatles: Get Back (The Big Picture, ‘Elvis,’ ‘Walk Hard’ and Top Five Music Biopics)
- director, The Lord of the Rings trilogy (Blank Check — Patreon, 2025 March Madness Update 1)
- director, The Hobbit films (Blank Check — Patreon, 2025 March Madness Update 1)
- director, The Lord of the Rings (Blank Check — Patreon, The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free))
- director, The Frighteners (Blank Check — Patreon, Full Metal Jacket with Jon Gabrus (Ad-Free))
- director, The Lord of the Rings (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien: Covenant)
Other (3) everyone in other
- pitched a Renaissance-set Apes film, Planet of the Apes (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer)
- pioneer-the-technology comparison (Blank Check — Patreon, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free))
- approached to direct, Alien Resurrection (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien: Resurrection)
What was said about them, by kind
career (2)
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career (career moment):
Peter Jackson → Heavenly Creatures.
After the Renaissance Apes pitch failed (an executive did not know Roddy McDowall), Jackson went back to Heavenly Creatures.
“So he went back to the heavenly creatures.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:46:31 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career turn):
Howard Shore → Peter Jackson.
Shore then took on Lord of the Rings.
“And then PJ was like, hey, you want to do like Lord of the Rings?”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 1:09:00 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
industry (2)
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industry (awards-win):
Peter Weir → Peter Jackson.
Weir won the BAFTA for director over Jackson.
“He beat Jackson.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World with John Hodgman · 1:38:22 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Sean Astin → Peter Jackson.
Astin's narrative is that Jackson cut his Oscar clip from Return of the King.
“His whole thing was that like Jackson fucked him by cutting out his Oscar clip.”
Blank Check — Patreon · 2025 March Madness Update 1 · 0:30:42 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
programming (1)
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programming (programming):
The Lord of the Rings trilogy → Peter Jackson.
They would watch the extended cuts, with Fellowship almost essential and Return of the King the overstuffed one.
“To me, like the fellowship extended cut is almost essential”
Blank Check — Patreon · 2025 March Madness Update 1 · 0:55:50 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
theme (1)
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theme (technology comparison):
David Fincher → Peter Jackson.
Fincher did not usually pioneer technology for the next generation the way Zemeckis or Jackson did.
“But I do think in that way that's more often the, like, the Zameckis, Peter Jackson”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:54:05 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
unmapped (3)
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unmapped (hiring logic):
Peter Jackson → Howard Shore.
Jackson hired Shore because Jackson came from a Cronenberg-like space.
“Because Jackson comes from a kind of Cronenberg space originally.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 2:04:14 · unknown host (0.35 sure it was them) -
unmapped (production lore):
Peter Jackson → The Lord of the Rings.
Jackson pitched multiple films on the strength of unfilmed New Zealand locations and a ready industry.
“I got like 80 locations in my back pocket that no one has ever filmed before”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens · 1:10:51 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them) -
unmapped (enabling technology):
Peter Jackson → The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
Once Gollum worked, scripts once thought unmakable looked possible.
“Post golem was the 1st time where they were suddenly like all these scripts that we used to think were unmakable.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Curious Case of Benjamin Button with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:53:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
verdict (1)
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verdict (verdict):
Peter Jackson → Barry Sonnenfeld.
Jackson beat Sonnenfeld.
“defeated Barry Sonenfeld”
Blank Check — Patreon · 2025 March Madness Update 1 · 0:54:08 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
what-if (1)
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what-if (what-if):
Peter Jackson → Alien Resurrection.
Peter Jackson was also asked and was not pumped; Alien 3's failure made the job a poison chalice.
“So now it's kind of like a poison chalice.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:10:23 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
None.