The Lord of the Rings (1978)

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Wikidata Q378913, film, IMDb tt0077869, TMDB 123: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only film by that title; 6 more episodes agree.

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Who talked about it

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

No line says it drew on another film or person.

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

Thor: The Dark World: 2 lines lineage ×1 craft ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Thor: The Dark World → The Lord of the Rings. The Dark Elf war prologue and design is Lord of the Rings style ancient-story fantasy.
    “This is some sort of like Lord of the Rings stuff where it's sort of like, you know, this is an ancient story.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:17:10 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Alien: Covenant: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): Alien: Covenant → The Lord of the Rings. New Zealand locations can't replicate what Peter Jackson did with it in Lord of the Rings, but still look like a newer earth.
    “you can never replicate the total stunning magic trick of Peter Jackson, like deploying it in Lord of the Rings”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Covenant · 0:38:46 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Billy Boyd: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (actor-other-work / career-trajectory): Billy Boyd → The Lord of the Rings. Dominic Monaghan said that while Billy Boyd was off on this ship of the line, his own career stalled after the LOTR films, then flipped.
    “I have this like double act with Boyd. We make these 3 movies together. And then I couldn't book a gig for 2 years.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World with John Hodgman · 1:25:03 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Brad Dourif: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Brad Dourif → The Lord of the Rings. Dourif pops into big franchises like Alien and Lord of the Rings yet stays anonymous.
    “The fact that he's in Lord of the Rings.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:21:14 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them)

Gladiator: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Gladiator → The Lord of the Rings. Gladiator came right before Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter and Spider-Man changed summer blockbusters.
    “And it's right before Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter and Spider-Man.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 0:11:26 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

Howard Shore: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (composer arc): Howard Shore → The Lord of the Rings. Shore went from atonal Cronenberg/Scorsese music to scoring Lord of the Rings.
    “Like before he became the Lord of the Rings guy. I mean, he was the weird, you know, atonal music guy.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 2:03:46 · unknown host (0.35 sure it was them)

Ian McKellen: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Ian McKellen → The Lord of the Rings. The hosts imagine a new Lord of the Rings film about hunting for Gollum, with McKellen and Wood back and Kate Winslet leading.
    “Kate Winslet is obviously leading that heart.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 1:38:08 · David Sims (0.30 sure it was them)

Mean Girls: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (IP recreation): Mean Girls → The Lord of the Rings. The verbatim echoing of the original is compared to how a future remake of Lord of the Rings would recycle its shtick.
    “when we see a Lord of the Rings movie, you know, 10 years from now, when they're just like doing the same shtick, like it's kind of like IP recreation in a way.”
    The Big Picture · Oscar Nomination Predictions, ‘Mean Girls,’ and ‘All of Us Strangers’ With Andrew Scott · 0:51:59 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Peter Jackson: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (production lore): Peter Jackson → The Lord of the Rings. Jackson pitched multiple films on the strength of unfilmed New Zealand locations and a ready industry.
    “I got like 80 locations in my back pocket that no one has ever filmed before”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens · 1:10:51 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

Sean Astin: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Sean Astin → The Lord of the Rings. Seeing Sean Astin as Josh, a speaker can only say Samwise Gamgee now; another thought of Toy Soldiers.
    “To me, I'm now always forever going to say Sanwise Gamge.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:44:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The 13th Warrior: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The 13th Warrior → The Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings a few years later has the same content (monsters attacking a wooden fort, a cave of skulls) but with new digital tools.
    “even Lord of the Rings a few years later, which has a lot of the same scenes”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The 13th Warrior with David Lowery (Ad-Free) · 1:32:25 · David Lowery (0.65 sure it was them)

The Power of the Dog: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (landscape): The Power of the Dog → The Lord of the Rings. New Zealand standing in for Montana looks, if like anything, like Lord of the Rings.
    “if it looks like anywhere, it looks like Lord of the Rings landscapes, right?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens · 1:10:46 · Dana Stevens (0.40 sure it was them)

The Twilight Saga: Eclipse: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Lord of the Rings. Cullens don't sleep, like elves in Lord of the Rings.
    “They are, they are like elves in Lord of the Rings or whatever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:27:57 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Thor: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Thor → The Lord of the Rings. Studios expected a Thor movie would have to be a serious sub-Lord of the Rings; post-LOTR C-list fantasy launches had been failing.
    “anytime Post-Lord of the Rings, anyone was trying to launch a C-list, B-list, Lord of the Rings style fantasy thing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:58:16 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (2)

  1. career (career): Sean Astin → The Lord of the Rings. Seeing Sean Astin as Josh, a speaker can only say Samwise Gamgee now; another thought of Toy Soldiers.
    “To me, I'm now always forever going to say Sanwise Gamge.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 0:44:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): Brad Dourif → The Lord of the Rings. Dourif pops into big franchises like Alien and Lord of the Rings yet stays anonymous.
    “The fact that he's in Lord of the Rings.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:21:14 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them)

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (contrast): The 13th Warrior → The Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings a few years later has the same content (monsters attacking a wooden fort, a cave of skulls) but with new digital tools.
    “even Lord of the Rings a few years later, which has a lot of the same scenes”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The 13th Warrior with David Lowery (Ad-Free) · 1:32:25 · David Lowery (0.65 sure it was them)

craft (2)

  1. craft (craft): Alien: Covenant → The Lord of the Rings. New Zealand locations can't replicate what Peter Jackson did with it in Lord of the Rings, but still look like a newer earth.
    “you can never replicate the total stunning magic trick of Peter Jackson, like deploying it in Lord of the Rings”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Covenant · 0:38:46 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): Thor: The Dark World → The Lord of the Rings. The ether lodging in Jane and slowly corrupting her is like the One Ring and Frodo.
    “It's sort of almost the like the ring for Frodo-esque.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:09:40 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

industry (2)

  1. industry (industry): Gladiator → The Lord of the Rings. Gladiator came right before Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter and Spider-Man changed summer blockbusters.
    “And it's right before Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter and Spider-Man.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 0:11:26 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. industry (industry): Thor → The Lord of the Rings. Studios expected a Thor movie would have to be a serious sub-Lord of the Rings; post-LOTR C-list fantasy launches had been failing.
    “anytime Post-Lord of the Rings, anyone was trying to launch a C-list, B-list, Lord of the Rings style fantasy thing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:58:16 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)

lineage (1)

  1. lineage (lineage): Thor: The Dark World → The Lord of the Rings. The Dark Elf war prologue and design is Lord of the Rings style ancient-story fantasy.
    “This is some sort of like Lord of the Rings stuff where it's sort of like, you know, this is an ancient story.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:17:10 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

people (2)

  1. people (composer arc): Howard Shore → The Lord of the Rings. Shore went from atonal Cronenberg/Scorsese music to scoring Lord of the Rings.
    “Like before he became the Lord of the Rings guy. I mean, he was the weird, you know, atonal music guy.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 2:03:46 · unknown host (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. people (actor-other-work / career-trajectory): Billy Boyd → The Lord of the Rings. Dominic Monaghan said that while Billy Boyd was off on this ship of the line, his own career stalled after the LOTR films, then flipped.
    “I have this like double act with Boyd. We make these 3 movies together. And then I couldn't book a gig for 2 years.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World with John Hodgman · 1:25:03 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

theme (1)

  1. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Lord of the Rings. Cullens don't sleep, like elves in Lord of the Rings.
    “They are, they are like elves in Lord of the Rings or whatever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:27:57 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (3)

  1. unmapped (landscape): The Power of the Dog → The Lord of the Rings. New Zealand standing in for Montana looks, if like anything, like Lord of the Rings.
    “if it looks like anywhere, it looks like Lord of the Rings landscapes, right?”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens · 1:10:46 · Dana Stevens (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (production lore): Peter Jackson → The Lord of the Rings. Jackson pitched multiple films on the strength of unfilmed New Zealand locations and a ready industry.
    “I got like 80 locations in my back pocket that no one has ever filmed before”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens · 1:10:51 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (IP recreation): Mean Girls → The Lord of the Rings. The verbatim echoing of the original is compared to how a future remake of Lord of the Rings would recycle its shtick.
    “when we see a Lord of the Rings movie, you know, 10 years from now, when they're just like doing the same shtick, like it's kind of like IP recreation in a way.”
    The Big Picture · Oscar Nomination Predictions, ‘Mean Girls,’ and ‘All of Us Strangers’ With Andrew Scott · 0:51:59 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

what-if (1)

  1. what-if (what-if): Ian McKellen → The Lord of the Rings. The hosts imagine a new Lord of the Rings film about hunting for Gollum, with McKellen and Wood back and Kate Winslet leading.
    “Kate Winslet is obviously leading that heart.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 1:38:08 · David Sims (0.30 sure it was them)

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