The Big Picture: ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap!

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The extraction calls the show “The Big Picture (The Ringer)” and the episode “'Mamma Mia!' Meets 'The Strangers'! It's a Movie Swap!”.

Hosts: Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins. Guests: none.

Subject films: Mamma Mia! (2008), The Strangers (2008).

On the transcript: No speaker labels, so attributions between the two hosts are inferred from context (Sean did not know Mamma Mia, Amanda mentions husband Zach and kids), and are often moderate confidence. Ad reads and a closing bank spot sit at the start, middle and end; some lines are garbled by the transcriber.

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theme (theme): The Strangers → Mamma Mia!. Amanda argues the two 2008 films share a theme of knowing thyself and what can't be known; later both end by withholding the answer.
“And I would, I'll argue, has some things in common with Mama Mia.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:02:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Sense and Sensibility → Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. The 2019 swap pairing Spider-Verse and Sense and Sensibility taught Amanda how she watches animation and became a reference for later animated films.
“it taught me a lot about how I watch animation, what I respond to”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:10:10 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Terminator 2: Judgment Day → One Battle After Another. The 2021 Cameron swap of Terminator 2 versus Titanic was great prep for the Cameron-return era and, per Amanda, for One Battle After Another.
“that was also great prep for one battle after another.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:12:22 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): The English Patient → David Lean. Amanda dismissed The English Patient as a David Lean rip-off in the 2022 swap.
“this is David Lean rip off”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:12:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Mamma Mia! → Shrek. Reflecting on their movie swaps, Sean ties Shrek, the earlier one-way swap, to Bobby Wagner's last episode.
“Bob's last episode was like a one-way movie swap, which was Shrek.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:13:57 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
career (career): Mamma Mia! → Les Misérables. Mamma Mia and Les Mis are Seyfried's core work that Sean had not seen.
“And you have just not seen any of her core work, including, but Mama Mia and Les Misera.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:16:51 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
verdict (verdict): Mamma Mia! → Sense and Sensibility. Mamma Mia is not as important to Amanda as Sense and Sensibility or Four Weddings, but is pop-culturally significant.
“Is it as important to me as Sense and Sensibility or for weddings in a funeral or the, you know, any of those. No.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:17:15 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Roy Lee → The Strangers. Roy Lee called Bertino after The Strangers script placed in a screenwriting contest; Lee is known for getting in early with young talent.
“He got a call from super producer Roy Lee, who's gone on to be arguably the most successful independent producer in Hollywood last year.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:19:34 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
programming (programming): The Strangers → The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. In 2008 horror favored slick remakes and torture porn, so a stripped-down original like The Strangers stood out.
“this was at a time when like Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake was happening, the Nightmare on Elm Street remake was happening, the last house on the left remake was happening”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:20:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): The Strangers → Saw. The Strangers arrived amid the torture-porn wave (Saw, Hostel) but works by randomness and withholding rather than gore.
“there was also a kind of torture porn, uh, saw hostile, you know, those films were also very popular in the horror mainstream.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:21:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): The Strangers → Funny Games. Released a year after the Funny Games remake, The Strangers is similar in kind but is a pure experiential film with no meta commentary.
“But unlike funny games. This movie could not be less meta.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:21:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
verdict (verdict): The Strangers → The Strangers (sequel and newer Strangers movies). The sequel and remake-origin follow-ups miss the point; part of the original's power is that it exists out of nowhere with no origin.
“We don't need an origins right now.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:22:08 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): The Strangers → The Town That Dreaded Sundown. The tall stranger's sack mask calls back to The Town That Dreaded Sundown.
“wears a kind of sack mask that recalls like the town that dreaded sundown.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:26:00 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): The Strangers → Scream (Ghostface mask). The sack mask feels familiar but not commercialized into oblivion like the Ghostface mask.
“it's like familiar, but it's also not like the ghost face mask, like commercialized into like total oblivion at this point.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:26:11 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
people (people): Scott Speedman → The Strangers. Sean thinks real-world familiarity with Speedman and Liv Tyler enriches the film because celebrity itself is about cracking a persona, while Amanda finds their star quality the only thing keeping it Hollywood.
“So I think using Scott Speedman and live, Tyler, 2 beautiful people who you do have some sort of relationship to, like compliments, the themes of the movie.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:28:20 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): The Strangers → Mark Romanek. Universal passed on a bigger-budget version and the film works better for being small.
“He wanted to make it as a $40000000 movie and they didn't want to.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:30:12 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
theme (theme): The Strangers → The Strangers. Critics read the film as a post-9/11 horror about random violence, set against the revenge-and-gore reading of torture porn.
“There are 2 ways of looking at horror in the aftermath of 911.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:30:23 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): The Strangers → Manson family murders. Bertino cited the Manson family murders as an inspiration, but the speaker finds that unsatisfying because Manson had intent while the Strangers act at random.
“Bertino says that the Manson family tape murders were a big inspiration for this.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:33:41 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): The Strangers → Friday the 13th. Classic slashers punish teens for transgressions; The Strangers rejects that strategy and punishes no one for anything.
“a lot of horror movies are basically showing the trans, especially slashers are showing the transgressions of other people.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:35:36 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
craft (craft): The Strangers → Nightmares. Scott Speedman's late-night drive is a horror trope, like the woman in Nightmares who leaves for cigarettes while a killer is loose.
“she's like, I just fucking need cigarettes.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:40:21 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
craft (craft): Merle Haggard → The Strangers. A Merle Haggard record the intruders put on supplies the film's closing haunting song, Mama Tried.
“Yeah, but, you know, mama tried as like the closing haunting jam, you know, is kind of that's a tough one.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:47:03 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
career (career): Brian Bertino → The Strangers. Bertino looked like a major horror director after The Strangers but never reached the mountaintop again, partly because its spareness is hard to revisit.
“I thought he was going to be one of the most significant horror directors of his generation, and he's worked, but has never really kind of reached the mountaintop again.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:47:57 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
career (career): The Strangers → The Dark and the Wicked. Bertino's second-best feature is a similarly unnerving domestic horror.
“2020 is the Dark and the Wicked is probably his 2nd best feature, which is a similarly unnerving domestic horror, starring Marin Ireland”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:48:14 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): Mamma Mia! → ABBA. The film is aesthetically and spiritually in tune with ABBA's incandescent, inescapable and stupid songs.
“It is a film that is very, like aesthetically and spiritually in tune with its source material, being the, like, incandescent, inescapable, wonderful, and also really stupid songs of ABBA.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:52:57 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)
craft (craft): Mamma Mia! → Phyllida Lloyd. A celebrated theater director made poor camera choices; the speaker says it is some of the worst direction they've seen.
“The actual direction of the film is some of the worst I've ever seen.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:54:46 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
career (career): Phyllida Lloyd → The Iron Lady. Lloyd also directed The Iron Lady, which the hosts connect to Streep having had a good time with her.
“She directed the Iron Lady.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:55:08 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
people (people): Mamma Mia! → Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again. Director Lloyd was replaced on the sequel by Ol Parker, which the speaker thinks was for a reason.
“Which is an important thing because she very clearly was replaced for a reason.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:55:24 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): Mamma Mia! → The Strangers. Sean sets the loose, wander-around-and-pour-wine viewing of Mamma Mia against the locked-in, what-will-happen-to-them viewing of The Strangers.
“I contrast that with the strangers where I was like sitting in a movie again for 79 minutes, like what is going to happen to these people?”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:57:36 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
career (career): Amanda Seyfried → Mean Girls. The film comes shortly after Mean Girls and just before "end time" (as transcribed) and Jennifer's Body, with Seyfried going for the brass ring.
“It's shortly after Mean Girls.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:59:06 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
people (people): The Strangers → Mamma Mia!. Both are 2008 films framed around a wedding and a daughter or couple at a wedding crossroads, and the hosts tie both to the marriage-skepticism joke.
“Are you, and again, this gets back to like our, should we be getting married?”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:59:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): West Side Story → Mamma Mia!. Spielberg's West Side Story is a modern movie musical that works because it adapts an older musical, unlike the modern-musical style Sean dislikes.
“West Side Story, Spielberg's film. I think that's one of the best movie musicals of the last 50 years.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:04:50 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): Stephen Sondheim → Merrily We Roll Along. Sondheim is rarely adapted to film, but Linklater is in the midst of adapting Merrily We Roll Along.
“I would much prefer Sondheim, but Sondheim is almost never adapted for movie musicals, which is an interesting thing. Like, obviously, Linklater is in the midst of doing merrily we roll along.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:06:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.75 sure it was them)
people (people): Meryl Streep → Into the Woods. Streep was in Into the Woods, but Sean skips it because he dislikes the Rob Marshall production and the show itself.
“But, um, I mean, Meryl Streep was into the woods.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:06:29 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
people (people): Mamma Mia! → Pierce Brosnan. Brosnan, Firth and Skarsgard are icons in Ireland, England and Sweden, which the speaker offers as one reason the film was so huge in the UK.
“you've got an Irish, English and Swedish, like kind of icon.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:07:41 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Mamma Mia! → Wicked. Excluding Disney animation and adaptations, Mamma Mia is the third highest-grossing movie musical behind Wicked and Wonka.
“this is the 3rd highest grossing movie musical and the history of movies behind Wicked and Wonka, which only just came out in the last 2 years.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:08:09 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Mamma Mia! → The Dark Knight. In 2008, a year dominated by The Dark Knight and Iron Man, Mamma Mia still became a global phenomenon.
“it was the Dark Knight and Iron Man year”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:09:09 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Mamma Mia! → Twilight. Adding vampires to Mamma Mia would have gotten Sean to see it in theaters, and could solve Mamma Mia 3's casting issues.
“You know what would have gotten me to go see Mama Me in theaters, putting vampires in it.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:09:24 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
craft (craft): Mamma Mia! → Bergman Island. Bergman Island also uses The Winner Takes It All, which Sean ranks as the second-greatest use of the song.
“I told you at the time, the 2nd greatest use of the winner takes it all ever.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:11:35 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): Mamma Mia! → Wicked. Mamma Mia's loose ABBA karaoke feel contrasts with modern stage-derived musicals like Wicked, whose songs and performative choreography Sean dislikes.
“Like wicked, there were a lot of people posing in the background and it just took me out every single time.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:16:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
craft (craft): Mamma Mia! → West Side Story. In Dancing Queen, Baranski and Streep's chiffon skirts allow one Jerome Robbins-style moment that echoes West Side Story.
“they do like one Jerome Robbins, like, uh, sachet moment.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:17:19 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
career (career): Meryl Streep → The Devil Wears Prada. Mamma Mia followed Devil Wears Prada almost immediately, proving Streep in her 50s was a $100 million box-office draw.
“Yeah. You know, the greatest actress of her generation. In her 50s is commanding multiple $100 million movies.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:17:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Meryl Streep → Salt. The hosts joke about casting Streep in Wanted or Salt in place of Angelina Jolie.
“Meryl does have like a regal Russian quality to it.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:21:07 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
career (career): Meryl Streep → Florence Foster Jenkins. Streep keeps singing on film, and Florence Foster Jenkins riffs on her not being a great singer.
“Florence Foster Jenkins is so funny, though, because it's kind of a riff on how she can't really sing that.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:21:59 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
career (career): Meryl Streep → Ricky and the Flash. Streep plays a rock front woman in the Jonathan Demme film, another case of her loving to sing.
“Ricky and the Flash. That's what I was trying to think.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:22:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
theme (theme): Mamma Mia! → The Rocky Horror Picture Show. The older characters' drag-like performances make Mamma Mia like Rocky Horror for people who go to full-service resorts.
“it's like rocky horror picture show for people who like to go to, like, Cabo to all, like, to, you know, um, full service resorts”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:22:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
verdict (verdict): Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again → Mamma Mia!. Letterboxd consensus says the first film stinks but the sequel is like crack, with Fernando used breathtakingly.
“Everybody on Letterbox was like, this movie actually stinks, but 2 is like crack, like it's so good.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:25:43 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Mamma Mia! → Bohemian Rhapsody. Both succeed because audiences want to hear beloved band songs in a theater, but Mamma Mia has a sense of humor a biopic lacks.
“Bohemian Rhapsody was so successful because of the songs and because of this, you know, portrayal of this band who we have a big relationship to.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:26:44 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): Mamma Mia! → Michael. The upcoming Michael biopic is expected to lack the humor of Mamma Mia's lighter use of music.
“Michael is gonna be, it's not gonna have any of the sense of humor.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:26:57 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
theme (theme): Mamma Mia! → The Strangers. Mamma Mia, by never confirming the father, honors not-knowing the way The Strangers does, which Amanda says gives it more nerve.
“This movie understands that the greatest fear and the greatest power lies in not knowing.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:29:03 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): Mamma Mia! → Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again. The sequel is both prequel and sequel, with Lily James as young Donna in Donna and the Dynamos.
“can I tell you it's both a prequel and a sequel?”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:35:44 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)

Fun items (25)

fun, about Super Bowl / Jets: Amanda announces a 12-month hiatus from the NFL after the Jets' pointless season; Sean doesn't believe a word of it.
“the New York Jets are a psyop that have been operated against me and I am publicly announcing that after this year's NFL draft, I am taking a 12 month hiatus from the team.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:04:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about Movie swap history: The hosts recap six swaps: Spider-Verse/Sense and Sensibility (2019), Aliens/Four Weddings (2020), Terminator 2/Titanic (2021), Fargo/English Patient (2022), the three-way Casablanca/In-Laws/Spy Kids (2023), and the Shrek one-way swap.
“The 1st one we ever did was in 2019, and we swapped into the Spider-Verse and Sense and Sensibility.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:09:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
fun, about Marriage take: Sean's hot take that past a certain tax bracket people should not marry, because marriage is a business arrangement propped up by the tax code.
“past a certain tax bracket, you just like should not get married anymore.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:11:04 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about The Strangers: Amanda admits the film gets under her skin without being gory or supernatural, because her horror problem is irritation, not fear.
“it's actually not fear that is my issue.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:18:51 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
fun, about The Strangers: Sean saw it in theaters knowing only the trailer; the hosts say it was shot in 2006-07 and sat on the shelf a year, which is how it landed in 2008.
“Apparently this movie was shot in 2006, 2007 and just sat on the shelf for a year.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:19:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
fun, about Brian Bertino: Bertino's early script placed in a screenwriting fellowship contest and got him a call from producer Roy Lee.
“He submitted it to the Nickel Fellowship, uh, or Nick Nickel Grant contest. I think he came in 3rd place, but it got noticed.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:19:25 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
fun, about The Strangers: The hosts guess the unmasking was shot but cut because the film is stronger if you never see the faces.
“they filmed it where they take the masks off and then they realized an edit that it's more powerful if you never see their faces.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:31:59 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them)
fun, about The Strangers: The final line: asked why, the masked woman answers because you were home. The hosts debate whether no answer would be better.
“she says, yes, doll face.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:34:44 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about The Strangers: Sound design: a single knock at the door is the film's most upsetting moment, with very little score or dialogue.
“a single knock at a door at 4.30 in the morning can be the most upsetting thing that could possibly happen to you.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:38:41 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
fun, about The Strangers: Bit about the proposal: the ring, the parking lot, the pear-shaped diamond from Sex and the City, and Sean's diamond shaped like Babu Frick.
“The diamond that I got for Eileen when I proposed is in the shape of Babu Frick.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:43:13 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about The Strangers: Self-defense riff: the hosts argue about whether you can kill an intruder and why the couple never barricades the door with furniture.
“It's just a real like barricade the home situation.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:46:25 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about The Strangers: The couple's vinyl collection includes Joanna Newsom, Merle Haggard, Gillian Welch, Billy Bragg and Wilco and Richard Buckner; later the strangers put on the Merle Haggard record, with Mama Tried as the closing jam.
“This couple had awesome taste in music.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:46:41 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about The Strangers: Sean gives it 3.5 stars on Letterboxd and notes the strangers franchise is now IP.
“Uh... 3.5?”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:47:49 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about Mamma Mia!: Sean watched Mamma Mia with Eileen and Alice in a 4:30-to-6:18 window between Lincoln and moderating a One Battle After Another event at Warner Brothers.
“I can watch Mamma Mia from 430 to 618, and then I got to drive to Warner Brothers to go to moderate a conversation for one battle after another.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 0:56:26 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
fun, about Mamma Mia!: It squeezes 23 songs into a 1 hour 42 minute movie.
“23 songs, they squeeze into this one hour and 42 minutes movie.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:01:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
fun, about Mamma Mia!: The cast treated it like a vacation in Greece, slightly sunburnt and unglamorous, which Sean finds charming.
“everybody's a little sunburnt, and it does kind of feel like they've had a couple of glasses of wine while performing”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:03:12 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about Mamma Mia!: It made $610 million worldwide, $144 million domestic, and was huge in the UK.
“this movie has made $610 million worldwide at the box office.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:07:15 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about Mamma Mia!: Meryl Streep singing The Winner Takes It All at Pierce Brosnan on a cliff is a favorite scene, with Brosnan looking confused.
“Pierce Brosan just stands there looking confused.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:10:27 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
fun, about Meryl Streep: A running bit, checking whether Meryl Streep ever holds a gun in her filmography, and recasting her in Wanted and Salt.
“Meryl Streep is hard to talk about. It's kind of like talking about Coca-Cola on a warm summer day.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:21:32 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about Mamma Mia!: Sean notes the end credits, with the cast in full 70s disco gear singing Waterloo, may be the film's high point.
“arguably the highest point of the movie is the credit sequence when they've stripped away all pretense of trying to tell a story.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:24:44 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
fun, about Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again: Amanda applauded alone at the Arclight when Fernando played in the sequel and has told Sean what happens before.
“I maybe did start applauding at the arc light, like, alone when Fernando shut up.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:26:00 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about Mamma Mia!: Mamma Mia remake game: Rihanna in Barbados.
“if we're doing Rihanna, then you do Barbados, right?”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:28:33 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about Pierce Brosnan: Brosnan's long residence near Hanalei on Kauai and a rumored $100 million Malibu property turned up in an Architectural Digest search.
“he lived like outside Hanalay for like 25 years in on the north shore of Kauai”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:31:25 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about Kristen Stewart: Kristen Stewart is buying the Highland Park Theater, which the hosts live five minutes from.
“Shout out to Kristen Stewart debuting her purchase of the Highland Highland Park Theater.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:32:25 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about Mamma Mia!: The who's-the-father debate: Sean and Amanda both pick Pierce Brosnan; the director and screenwriter reportedly say Stellan Skarsgard, and Amanda offers a diary-order ovulation argument for the middle man.
“the middle person is going to be the closest to ovulation.”
The Big Picture · ‘Mamma Mia!’ Meets ‘The Strangers'! It’s a Movie Swap! · 1:33:56 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)

Who's talking

Sean Fennessey (host): Likes lean, formally controlled genre movies, prefers Sondheim to Lloyd Webber-era musicals, and respects cult phenomena once he understands them. He doesn't care for modern movie musicals, bad-good irony, or over-psychologized horror. He is a sucker for movie stars and celebrity mystique and for a good Letterboxd rating.
Amanda Dobbins (host): Loves The Strangers' withholding craft and a good tense horror film without gore, but likes fun, communal movies like Mamma Mia. She dislikes supernatural or gory horror, which irritates her more than it scares her. She is a sucker for stars and for Googling a movie mid-recording.

The show's recurring bits

Drafts: Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument.
Hall of Fame: A star's or director's best, ranked and argued.
Countdowns: Ranked lists, top five or top ten.

Names the transcriber got wrong

'Sean Fantasy' is Sean Fennessey
'Mama Mia' / 'Mami' is Mamma Mia
'Brian Bertino' is probably Bryan Bertino
'Amanda Seifred' / 'Amanda Seyford' is Amanda Seyfried
'Stellen Scarsgar' / 'Stone Scarscard' / 'Some Scarsgard' is Stellan Skarsgard
'Philidia Lloyd' is Phyllida Lloyd
'Christine Branski' / 'Boranski' is Christine Baranski
'Old Parker' is Ol Parker
'Mark Romantic' is probably Mark Romanek
'Nickel Fellowship' is probably the Nicholl Fellowship
'Gemma Warden' is Gemma Ward
'Rennie Harlan' is Renny Harlin
'Madeline Petch' is probably Madelaine Petsch
'Hanalay' is Hanalei
'Fry in the dark' is probably A Cry in the Dark
'Tremfaya' is Tremfya
'Babu Frick' is Babu Frik
'Copelos' is probably Skopelos
'Kametsu Noyaba' is Kimetsu no Yaiba
'Jack' is used for the producer Jack Sanders, and in one place addresses a host (may be Sean)
'Aussie Solic' is unclear; 'Matt that like crosses over here' is garbled
'Craig Horlbeck' is probably Craig Horlbeck/Holbeck (Ringer staff)

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Who's talking

The show's recurring bits

Names the transcriber got wrong