Wall Street (1987)
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Wikidata Q332348, film, IMDb tt0094291, TMDB 10673: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Oliver Stone as director (5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished); 5 more episodes agree.
What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.
The Rewatchables' awards
Picked in other episodes
- Double feature (pick) for Margin Call (2011): Bill says it is a fun mix with Margin Call, a totally different movie that complements it. Bill Simmons · 1:24:13
Who talked about it
Blank Check with Griffin & David
- Bilge Ebiri: 1 line in Empire of the Sun with Bilge Ebiri
- Unattributed: 1 line, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Blank Check — Patreon
- Unattributed: 2 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
The Big Picture
- Sean Fennessey: 2 lines in The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 11 - 'The Wolf of Wall Street’
- Brian Koppelman: 1 line in Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster
The Rewatchables
- Bill Simmons: 1 line in ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman
- Van Lathan: 1 line in ‘The Edge’ With Bill Simmons and Van Lathan
- Unattributed: 2 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
No line says it drew on another film or person.
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
Money Never Sleeps: 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (sequel):
Wall Street ⇒ Money Never Sleeps (the host's read).
Wall Street is followed by Money Never Sleeps.
“but then, of course, money never slept”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:28:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps: 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (sequel):
Wall Street ⇒ Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps (the host's read).
Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps is a long-awaited legacy sequel to an Oscar-winning 80s drama.
“a much minded sequel, long-awaited, a legacy sequel of sorts, to a Oscar winning 80s drama.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 2:46:56 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Connected to
Margin Call: 2 lines programming ×1 contrast ×1
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contrast (contrast):
Margin Call → Wall Street.
Brian says Margin Call is the best film about business and the two are the best movies on the subject.
“Wall Street and Margin Call of the 2 best movies about this”
The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 1:09:55 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)
Eddie Murphy: 1 line what-if ×1
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what-if (what-if):
Wall Street → Eddie Murphy.
Eddie could not have been a supporting character like Bud Fox in Wall Street; he had to be the giant star.
“Eddie hit a point where he couldn't have been like Bud Fox in Wall Street.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:12:07 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Money Never Sleeps: 1 line lineage ×1
-
lineage (sequel):
Wall Street → Money Never Sleeps.
Wall Street is followed by Money Never Sleeps.
“but then, of course, money never slept”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:28:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Oliver Stone: 1 line people ×1
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people (director):
Wall Street → Oliver Stone.
Wall Street is Oliver Stone's movie; Stone is not among the speaker's favorites in the Stone episode.
“it's not my favorite as we've when we did our stone episode, it's not really high for me personally.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 11 - 'The Wolf of Wall Street’ · 0:42:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Planes, Trains and Automobiles: 1 line what-if ×1
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what-if (Oscar what-if):
Planes, Trains and Automobiles → Wall Street.
Planes, Trains and Automobiles should have won best actor for Candy that year, over Michael Douglas in Wall Street.
“Yeah, the movie that should have won best actor this year.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Empire of the Sun with Bilge Ebiri · 2:35:40 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Platoon: 1 line career ×1
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career (career arc):
Wall Street → Platoon.
Wall Street, a year after Platoon, indicated Oliver Stone's later movies would become Wall Street.
“It's a it's a little bit of an indication of where things are going to go prematurely in his career.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Empire of the Sun with Bilge Ebiri · 2:34:32 · Bilge Ebiri (0.50 sure it was them)
Sidney Poitier: 1 line what-if ×1
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what-if (what-if):
Sidney Poitier → Wall Street.
If Eddie plays Gordon Gekko, the speaker thinks he would defer to Poitier-type roles.
“But if he makes Sidney Poitier, Gordon Gecko.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:12:15 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
The Edge: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (zeitgeist):
The Edge → Wall Street.
Wall Street captured the 80s aspirational billionaire that the Edge still lives in.
“Wall Street really captures it with the Gordon Gecko character.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Edge’ With Bill Simmons and Van Lathan · 0:10:59 · Van Lathan (0.60 sure it was them)
The Wolf of Wall Street: 1 line lineage ×1
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lineage (lineage / scale):
Wall Street → The Wolf of Wall Street.
Oliver Stone's Wall Street is part of the lineage but feels small beside Wolf.
“That movie feels very small compared to Wolf of Wall Street.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 11 - 'The Wolf of Wall Street’ · 0:42:46 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps: 1 line lineage ×1
-
lineage (sequel):
Wall Street → Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps.
Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps is a long-awaited legacy sequel to an Oscar-winning 80s drama.
“a much minded sequel, long-awaited, a legacy sequel of sorts, to a Oscar winning 80s drama.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 2:46:56 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- passing in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Empire of the Sun with Bilge Ebiri, first at 2:33:34, 5 times
- passing in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich, first at 0:40:52, 1 time
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson, first at 0:05:01, 1 time
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins, first at 0:14:49, 3 times
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘The Big Chill’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey, first at 0:14:33, 2 times
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘The Edge’ With Bill Simmons and Van Lathan, first at 0:10:59, 1 time
- recommended in The Rewatchables · ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman, first at 0:25:09, 3 times
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan, first at 1:12:07, 1 time
- recommended in The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 11 - 'The Wolf of Wall Street’, first at 0:42:35, 2 times
- passing in The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished, first at 0:02:04, 1 time
- passing in The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time?, first at 0:17:49, 1 time
- passing in The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame, first at 0:59:03, 1 time
- compared in The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster, first at 1:09:32, 4 times
- compared in Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free), first at 0:23:53, 3 times
What was said about it, by kind
career (1)
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career (career arc):
Wall Street → Platoon.
Wall Street, a year after Platoon, indicated Oliver Stone's later movies would become Wall Street.
“It's a it's a little bit of an indication of where things are going to go prematurely in his career.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Empire of the Sun with Bilge Ebiri · 2:34:32 · Bilge Ebiri (0.50 sure it was them)
contrast (1)
-
contrast (contrast):
Margin Call → Wall Street.
Brian says Margin Call is the best film about business and the two are the best movies on the subject.
“Wall Street and Margin Call of the 2 best movies about this”
The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 1:09:55 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)
lineage (3)
-
lineage (lineage / scale):
Wall Street → The Wolf of Wall Street.
Oliver Stone's Wall Street is part of the lineage but feels small beside Wolf.
“That movie feels very small compared to Wolf of Wall Street.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 11 - 'The Wolf of Wall Street’ · 0:42:46 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (sequel):
Wall Street → Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps.
Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps is a long-awaited legacy sequel to an Oscar-winning 80s drama.
“a much minded sequel, long-awaited, a legacy sequel of sorts, to a Oscar winning 80s drama.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 2:46:56 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (sequel):
Wall Street → Money Never Sleeps.
Wall Street is followed by Money Never Sleeps.
“but then, of course, money never slept”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:28:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
people (1)
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people (director):
Wall Street → Oliver Stone.
Wall Street is Oliver Stone's movie; Stone is not among the speaker's favorites in the Stone episode.
“it's not my favorite as we've when we did our stone episode, it's not really high for me personally.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 11 - 'The Wolf of Wall Street’ · 0:42:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
programming (1)
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programming (programming):
Margin Call → Wall Street.
Simmons chooses Wall Street as the best double feature, a fun mix that complements.
“I would go Wall Street.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman · 1:24:10 · Bill Simmons (0.75 sure it was them)
unmapped (1)
-
unmapped (zeitgeist):
The Edge → Wall Street.
Wall Street captured the 80s aspirational billionaire that the Edge still lives in.
“Wall Street really captures it with the Gordon Gecko character.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Edge’ With Bill Simmons and Van Lathan · 0:10:59 · Van Lathan (0.60 sure it was them)
what-if (3)
-
what-if (Oscar what-if):
Planes, Trains and Automobiles → Wall Street.
Planes, Trains and Automobiles should have won best actor for Candy that year, over Michael Douglas in Wall Street.
“Yeah, the movie that should have won best actor this year.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Empire of the Sun with Bilge Ebiri · 2:35:40 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Wall Street → Eddie Murphy.
Eddie could not have been a supporting character like Bud Fox in Wall Street; he had to be the giant star.
“Eddie hit a point where he couldn't have been like Bud Fox in Wall Street.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:12:07 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Sidney Poitier → Wall Street.
If Eddie plays Gordon Gekko, the speaker thinks he would defer to Poitier-type roles.
“But if he makes Sidney Poitier, Gordon Gecko.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:12:15 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
None.
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- Oliver Stone: director (The Big Picture, 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished)
- Oliver Stone: director (The Big Picture, The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame)
- Oliver Stone: director (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 11 - 'The Wolf of Wall Street’)
- Oliver Stone: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Empire of the Sun with Bilge Ebiri)
- Oliver Stone: director (The Big Picture, 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time?)
- Oliver Stone: director of Wall Street and Natural Born Killers (The Big Picture, Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster)
- Oliver Stone: director (The Rewatchables, ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman)
- Michael Douglas: actor (won Best Actor) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Empire of the Sun with Bilge Ebiri)
- Michael Douglas: actor (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Starman with Katey Rich)
- Michael Douglas: actor (The Rewatchables, ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins)
- Michael Douglas: lead (Gordon Gekko, Oscar win) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free))