The Twilight Saga: Eclipse (2010)

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San Diego Comic-Con: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse ⇒ San Diego Comic-Con (the host's read). Twilight fans camping out for Hall H changed fandom protocol, then Marvel fans retaliated.
    “the Twyhards are the one who started that thing of like, Hall H is the biggest venue”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:42:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Connected to

Buffy the Vampire Slayer: 2 lines contrast ×1 craft ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Buffy's sleeping-with-Angel story is the sex-has-consequences version of what Twilight does as abstinence.
    “she sleeps with Angel, and it turns him evil because of, you know, arcane vampire rule shit”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:52:50 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Harry Potter: 2 lines contrast ×1 craft ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Harry Potter. Harry Potter had cache immediately and got huge actors from the start, unlike Twilight and Hunger Games.
    “whereas like something like Harry Potter, that there was so much cache immediately that they get huge actors.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:18:05 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn: 2 lines verdict ×1 programming ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn. Griffin promises the last movie makes a very active decision, the biggest deviation from the books.
    “they make a very, very active decision in the final movie that is the biggest deviation from the books.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 2:20:50 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

The Twilight Saga: New Moon: 2 lines contrast ×1 craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: New Moon. Eclipse was shot by Javier Aguirresarobe, who also shot New Moon, and the speakers find Eclipse similar-looking to New Moon, only more lush and autumnal.
    “Uh, Javier, Agriaska Robe. I, you know, I, I, who shot New Moon.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 2:02:26 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

The Twilight Saga: Twilight: 2 lines craft ×1 contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: Twilight. In the first movie, the Cullen/bad vampire threat felt more threatening and Pattinson more fun.
    “I genuinely find the 3 performances in the 1st movie, a lot more threatening.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:39:48 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Adam and the Ants: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Adam and the Ants. Volturi's costumed arrival compared to Adam and the Ants.
    “People dressed up like freaking Adam and the ants.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:05:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Assassin's Creed: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Assassin's Creed. The Volturi costumes look like Assassin's Creed.
    “They look like they're in Assassin's Creed.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:03:10 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Beetlejuice: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Beetlejuice. The mountain-top set looks like a hobby-town model, like the tabletop in Beetlejuice.
    “it looks like the, the, the tabletop and Beetlejuice.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:48:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Bryce Dallas Howard: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Bryce Dallas Howard → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse. Summit hired a bigger star to play Victoria because the character now had to be a cosmic threat.
    “They hire a bigger star.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:29:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

David Slade: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): David Slade → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse. Summit hired a horror stylist hoping to make the franchise scary and win teenage boys.
    “I think they went like, oh, here's a guy who does like highly stylized, sophisticated horror shit.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:08:12 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Frasier: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Frasier. Seattle setting so Seattle-y one could have Frasier on the radio.
    “Like, you know, might as well just like have Frasier”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:33:39 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Imitation of Life: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Imitation of Life. A guest on the prior episode (Chris, who worked on the franchise) was told the series plays like a Sirkian melodrama; his mother was nominated for Imitation of Life.
    “it's like a Circian melodrama”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:06:32 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Kevin Smith: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Kevin Smith. Kevin Smith defended Twihards for normalizing geek culture.
    “they're normalizing geek culture, like this is good for everyone.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:10:05 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Nosferatu: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Nosferatu. Ben's vampire sound effect and Nosferatu shirt; Lugosi vs Nosferatu confusion.
    “I am wearing my Nosteratu t-shirt right now.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:12:41 · Ben Hosley (0.60 sure it was them)

ParaNorman: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → ParaNorman. At Comic-Con 2012 a ParaNorman morning panel was mismatched with the Twilight panel hours later.
    “there was a paranorman panel at like 10 o'clock in the morning.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:44:59 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Pirates of the Caribbean: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Pirates of the Caribbean. Vampires walking underwater on the sea floor mirrors the Pirates of the Caribbean trailer shot.
    “They're doing like the Pirates of the Caribbean thing, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:37:32 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Quentin Tarantino: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Quentin Tarantino. Tarantino told Eli Roth the Twilight movies are for 12-year-old girls and a gateway drug to cinema.
    “They're for 12-year-old girls and they might be a great gateway drug to cinema.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:09:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

San Diego Comic-Con: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → San Diego Comic-Con. Twilight fans camping out for Hall H changed fandom protocol, then Marvel fans retaliated.
    “the Twyhards are the one who started that thing of like, Hall H is the biggest venue”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:42:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Sonic the Hedgehog: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Sonic the Hedgehog. Speedster problem via Rebecca Drysdale: a character faster than everyone has no shared continuum with others; the Sonic movie solved it with a road trip.
    “Sonic is inherently kind of a tough character to build dramatic narrative around because his whole thing is he goes faster than everyone else.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:35:05 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones. The meadow-and-flowers romance scene reads as Attack of the Clones vibes; the ending returns to the same field.
    “Whereas this is Attack of the Clones vibes.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:17:30 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Super Mario: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Super Mario. Arm-pumping super-speed runs would look like Super Mario, so the film shoots tight profiles instead.
    “they're going to look like Super Mario.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:32:11 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The CW: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The CW. Boys fighting over who protects Bella is like a crappy CW show.
    “it's like a CW, a crappy CW show, you know?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:40:07 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Dark Knight: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Dark Knight. Opening weekend compared to Dark Knight's 151M record and Avengers' 200M in 2012.
    “Dark Knight, the record was 151 or something.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 2:09:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Hunger Games: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Hunger Games. Twilight's casting grew from B-list to Oscar nominees by the third film, like Hunger Games gaining Hoffman and Julianne Moore.
    “And it's kind of the same thing with hunger games.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:17:57 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

The Last Airbender: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Last Airbender → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse. Last Airbender blew casting on a franchise starter, the opposite of Twilight's growth.
    “so last Airbender is the opposite where they just, they just fucking, they blew it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:18:16 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

The Lord of the Rings: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Lord of the Rings. Cullens don't sleep, like elves in Lord of the Rings.
    “They are, they are like elves in Lord of the Rings or whatever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:27:57 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Toy Story 3: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Toy Story 3. Eclipse opened the same weekend as Toy Story 3, Last Airbender and Grown Ups (box office game).
    “It's Toy Story 3, and it's the weekend.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 2:10:08 · Ben Hosley (0.50 sure it was them)

True Blood: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → True Blood. Twilight's newborn-vampire subplot prompts a comparison to True Blood, where turning someone makes you responsible for them.
    “I'm thinking about true blood again.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:46:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

What We Do in the Shadows: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): What We Do in the Shadows → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse. Vampire fans love Shadows' attention to rules and get angry that Twilight threw them out without replacing them with interesting rules.
    “vampire fans get angry about this franchise for throwing out most of the vampire rules.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:50:52 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

contrast (6)

  1. contrast (contrast): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: Twilight. In the first movie, the Cullen/bad vampire threat felt more threatening and Pattinson more fun.
    “I genuinely find the 3 performances in the 1st movie, a lot more threatening.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:39:48 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: New Moon. Eclipse is seen as the more action-packed, better-reviewed entry vs. New Moon's lack of propulsion; Rotten Tomatoes 48 vs 28.
    “New moon got 28.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:43:36 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (contrast): What We Do in the Shadows → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse. Vampire fans love Shadows' attention to rules and get angry that Twilight threw them out without replacing them with interesting rules.
    “vampire fans get angry about this franchise for throwing out most of the vampire rules.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:50:52 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. contrast (contrast): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Buffy's sleeping-with-Angel story is the sex-has-consequences version of what Twilight does as abstinence.
    “she sleeps with Angel, and it turns him evil because of, you know, arcane vampire rule shit”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:52:50 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. contrast (contrast): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Harry Potter. Harry Potter had cache immediately and got huge actors from the start, unlike Twilight and Hunger Games.
    “whereas like something like Harry Potter, that there was so much cache immediately that they get huge actors.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:18:05 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  6. contrast (contrast): The Last Airbender → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse. Last Airbender blew casting on a franchise starter, the opposite of Twilight's growth.
    “so last Airbender is the opposite where they just, they just fucking, they blew it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:18:16 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

craft (9)

  1. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: Twilight. Eclipse's sped-up running looks better than the first movie's.
    “the sped up running in the 1st movie looked so fucking stupid”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:31:08 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Super Mario. Arm-pumping super-speed runs would look like Super Mario, so the film shoots tight profiles instead.
    “they're going to look like Super Mario.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:32:11 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Twilight vampires lack a monster-mode like Buffy's where the teeth come out.
    “even like in the Buffy way, where it's like, okay, now the teeth come out”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:00:15 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Assassin's Creed. The Volturi costumes look like Assassin's Creed.
    “They look like they're in Assassin's Creed.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:03:10 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Adam and the Ants. Volturi's costumed arrival compared to Adam and the Ants.
    “People dressed up like freaking Adam and the ants.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:05:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Pirates of the Caribbean. Vampires walking underwater on the sea floor mirrors the Pirates of the Caribbean trailer shot.
    “They're doing like the Pirates of the Caribbean thing, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:37:32 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  7. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Beetlejuice. The mountain-top set looks like a hobby-town model, like the tabletop in Beetlejuice.
    “it looks like the, the, the tabletop and Beetlejuice.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:48:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  8. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Harry Potter. Even faithful adaptations like Harry Potter cannot carry book exposition into dialogue.
    “the thing with Harry Potter too.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:58:13 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  9. craft (craft): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: New Moon. Eclipse was shot by Javier Aguirresarobe, who also shot New Moon, and the speakers find Eclipse similar-looking to New Moon, only more lush and autumnal.
    “Uh, Javier, Agriaska Robe. I, you know, I, I, who shot New Moon.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 2:02:26 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

industry (5)

  1. industry (industry): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Nosferatu. Ben's vampire sound effect and Nosferatu shirt; Lugosi vs Nosferatu confusion.
    “I am wearing my Nosteratu t-shirt right now.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:12:41 · Ben Hosley (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. industry (industry): Bryce Dallas Howard → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse. Summit hired a bigger star to play Victoria because the character now had to be a cosmic threat.
    “They hire a bigger star.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:29:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. industry (industry): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → San Diego Comic-Con. Twilight fans camping out for Hall H changed fandom protocol, then Marvel fans retaliated.
    “the Twyhards are the one who started that thing of like, Hall H is the biggest venue”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:42:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. industry (industry): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → ParaNorman. At Comic-Con 2012 a ParaNorman morning panel was mismatched with the Twilight panel hours later.
    “there was a paranorman panel at like 10 o'clock in the morning.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:44:59 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. industry (industry): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Dark Knight. Opening weekend compared to Dark Knight's 151M record and Avengers' 200M in 2012.
    “Dark Knight, the record was 151 or something.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 2:09:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

lineage (2)

  1. lineage (lineage): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Imitation of Life. A guest on the prior episode (Chris, who worked on the franchise) was told the series plays like a Sirkian melodrama; his mother was nominated for Imitation of Life.
    “it's like a Circian melodrama”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:06:32 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones. The meadow-and-flowers romance scene reads as Attack of the Clones vibes; the ending returns to the same field.
    “Whereas this is Attack of the Clones vibes.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:17:30 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

programming (4)

  1. programming (programming): David Slade → The Twilight Saga: Eclipse. Summit hired a horror stylist hoping to make the franchise scary and win teenage boys.
    “I think they went like, oh, here's a guy who does like highly stylized, sophisticated horror shit.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:08:12 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. programming (programming): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Hunger Games. Twilight's casting grew from B-list to Oscar nominees by the third film, like Hunger Games gaining Hoffman and Julianne Moore.
    “And it's kind of the same thing with hunger games.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:17:57 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. programming (programming): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Toy Story 3. Eclipse opened the same weekend as Toy Story 3, Last Airbender and Grown Ups (box office game).
    “It's Toy Story 3, and it's the weekend.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 2:10:08 · Ben Hosley (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. programming (programming): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn. The final film is promised to take a huge liberty with the book and be entertaining, and the second to last has Michael Sheen camp.
    “at least, I remember the next one having some Michael Sheen in it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 2:21:20 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

theme (5)

  1. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Sonic the Hedgehog. Speedster problem via Rebecca Drysdale: a character faster than everyone has no shared continuum with others; the Sonic movie solved it with a road trip.
    “Sonic is inherently kind of a tough character to build dramatic narrative around because his whole thing is he goes faster than everyone else.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:35:05 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → True Blood. Twilight's newborn-vampire subplot prompts a comparison to True Blood, where turning someone makes you responsible for them.
    “I'm thinking about true blood again.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:46:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Lord of the Rings. Cullens don't sleep, like elves in Lord of the Rings.
    “They are, they are like elves in Lord of the Rings or whatever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:27:57 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Frasier. Seattle setting so Seattle-y one could have Frasier on the radio.
    “Like, you know, might as well just like have Frasier”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:33:39 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  5. theme (theme): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The CW. Boys fighting over who protects Bella is like a crappy CW show.
    “it's like a CW, a crappy CW show, you know?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 1:40:07 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

verdict (3)

  1. verdict (verdict): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Quentin Tarantino. Tarantino told Eli Roth the Twilight movies are for 12-year-old girls and a gateway drug to cinema.
    “They're for 12-year-old girls and they might be a great gateway drug to cinema.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:09:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (verdict): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → Kevin Smith. Kevin Smith defended Twihards for normalizing geek culture.
    “they're normalizing geek culture, like this is good for everyone.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 0:10:05 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. verdict (verdict): The Twilight Saga: Eclipse → The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn. Griffin promises the last movie makes a very active decision, the biggest deviation from the books.
    “they make a very, very active decision in the final movie that is the biggest deviation from the books.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eclipse · 2:20:50 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

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