Roma (2018)

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Wikidata Q27959455, film, IMDb tt6155172, TMDB 426426: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by titled so on Wikidata, where the others only go by it; 2 more episodes agree.

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Connected to

Green Book: 4 lines verdict ×3 industry ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Roma → Green Book. More recently, Roma or A Star Is Born should have won over Green Book.
    “Roma or a Star is born over Green Book.”
    The Big Picture · Thirteen Awards Movies to Watch Out for, Oscar Do-Overs, and More From the Mailbag · 0:41:29 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)

A Star Is Born: 2 lines verdict ×2

  1. verdict (verdict): Roma → A Star Is Born. The Roma versus A Star Is Born matchup felt natural and easy, and far from the Green Book conversation.
    “there's so many, the Roma versus Starborn thing felt so natural and easy to me, and that feels like a 1000000 miles away right now.”
    The Big Picture · Instant Reactions to a Truly Ludicrous Golden Globes | The Oscars Show (Ep. 115) · 0:11:57 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Alfonso Cuaron: 2 lines craft ×1 people ×1

  1. people (people): Roma → Alfonso Cuaron. Cuaron won best director and Roma is bulletproof regardless; best director does not necessarily portend the Oscar.
    “I think that no matter what Romo was going to be bulletproof tonight.”
    The Big Picture · Instant Reactions to a Truly Ludicrous Golden Globes | The Oscars Show (Ep. 115) · 0:55:01 · Sean Fennessey (0.45 sure it was them)

Black Panther: 2 lines theme ×1 industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Roma → Black Panther. Voters resisted a Netflix film the way they resisted superhero movies for years.
    “I do think at some point just people didn't want to vote for a Netflix film and in the same way that they didn't want to vote for a superhero movie for many years.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:26:13 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45 sure it was them)

Captain Marvel: 2 lines theme ×1 what-if ×1

  1. theme (theme): Captain Marvel → Roma. Recreating childhood wholesale is hard, which is why Roma was such a great movie.
    “That's why Roma was such a great movie.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:27:52 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)

The Irishman: 2 lines unmapped ×1 industry ×1

  1. unmapped (Netflix canon problem): Roma → The Irishman. Roma and The Irishman are year-end conversation films that still don't seem to belong to the real canon, even Criterion-released.
    “these movies don't seem to belong to the real canon, even when some of the Netflix movies get put out on a really physical form of canonization like criterion”
    The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:55:08 · Adam Nayman (0.80 sure it was them)

Avengers: Infinity War: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Roma → Avengers: Infinity War. Calls Roma and Netflix the Thanos of popular culture, the anti-everything.
    “Roma and Netflix as the sort of like anti-everything, the sort of the Thanos, if you will.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:23:11 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Cold War: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Roma → Cold War. Might have seen foreign film go to Cold War and best picture to Roma, since the Oscars are nutty.
    “you could see them giving best foreign film to Cold War and best picture to Roma.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:58:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Mank: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (Netflix black and white): Mank → Roma. Netflix is where you go for a script nobody else wants and for a black and white movie: Roma, Mank, Blonde, Maestro.
    “Not only is Netflix the place you go to for your script that nobody else wants to buy, but it's where you go and you want to make your black and white movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Mank with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 1:18:33 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Netflix: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Roma → Netflix. Only Netflix would give Cuaron the budget for a black-and-white film about his hometown and keep it in theaters.
    “who else would give Alfonso uh, that budget to make a movie, a black and white movie about his hometown”
    The Big Picture · The 10 Best Horror Movies of the Decade | The Big Picture · 1:41:42 · unknown (Alexander or Karaszewski) (0.40 sure it was them)

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contrast (1)

  1. contrast (contrast): Roma → Avengers: Infinity War. Calls Roma and Netflix the Thanos of popular culture, the anti-everything.
    “Roma and Netflix as the sort of like anti-everything, the sort of the Thanos, if you will.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:23:11 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

craft (1)

  1. craft (craft): Alfonso Cuaron → Roma. The cinematography Oscar went to Roma and to Cuarón, who shot his own film.
    “This, of course, went to Roma, Alfonso Coron.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:53:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)

industry (4)

  1. industry (industry): Roma → Netflix. Only Netflix would give Cuaron the budget for a black-and-white film about his hometown and keep it in theaters.
    “who else would give Alfonso uh, that budget to make a movie, a black and white movie about his hometown”
    The Big Picture · The 10 Best Horror Movies of the Decade | The Big Picture · 1:41:42 · unknown (Alexander or Karaszewski) (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. industry (industry): Roma → The Irishman. A Netflix ad for The Irishman put 'in theaters' first, which the speaker reads as the new paradigm for how movies are seen.
    “There was a notable commercial in the middle of this show for the Irishman, a new film from Netflix, and Martin Scorsese that you pointed out.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:23:48 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. industry (industry): Roma → Black Panther. Voters resisted a Netflix film the way they resisted superhero movies for years.
    “I do think at some point just people didn't want to vote for a Netflix film and in the same way that they didn't want to vote for a superhero movie for many years.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:26:13 · Amanda Dobbins (0.45 sure it was them)
  4. industry (industry): Green Book → Roma. Oscar odds as of the recording: Roma 60, Green Book 13, with Klansman and A Star Is Born next.
    “No, I would say like it's like 60 Roma, 13 green book, 10%, you know, who the fuck knows?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:19:23 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (people): Roma → Alfonso Cuaron. Cuaron won best director and Roma is bulletproof regardless; best director does not necessarily portend the Oscar.
    “I think that no matter what Romo was going to be bulletproof tonight.”
    The Big Picture · Instant Reactions to a Truly Ludicrous Golden Globes | The Oscars Show (Ep. 115) · 0:55:01 · Sean Fennessey (0.45 sure it was them)

theme (2)

  1. theme (theme): Captain Marvel → Roma. Recreating childhood wholesale is hard, which is why Roma was such a great movie.
    “That's why Roma was such a great movie.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:27:52 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme): Roma → Black Panther. Two Black Panther craft wins early made the night feel like one Hollywood, with Roma and Netflix bursting both.
    “I was like, okay, the 2 Hollywoods, that's definitely the theme, but in the middle kind of bursting the two, is is Roma and Netflix”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:23:11 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (2)

  1. unmapped (Netflix canon problem): Roma → The Irishman. Roma and The Irishman are year-end conversation films that still don't seem to belong to the real canon, even Criterion-released.
    “these movies don't seem to belong to the real canon, even when some of the Netflix movies get put out on a really physical form of canonization like criterion”
    The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:55:08 · Adam Nayman (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (Netflix black and white): Mank → Roma. Netflix is where you go for a script nobody else wants and for a black and white movie: Roma, Mank, Blonde, Maestro.
    “Not only is Netflix the place you go to for your script that nobody else wants to buy, but it's where you go and you want to make your black and white movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Mank with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free) · 1:18:33 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

verdict (5)

  1. verdict (verdict): Roma → Green Book. More recently, Roma or A Star Is Born should have won over Green Book.
    “Roma or a Star is born over Green Book.”
    The Big Picture · Thirteen Awards Movies to Watch Out for, Oscar Do-Overs, and More From the Mailbag · 0:41:29 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (verdict): Roma → Green Book. Declares Green Book's best picture win a farce while Roma is a beautiful film.
    “green book winning best picture is a farce.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:22:56 · Sean Fennessey (0.45 sure it was them)
  3. verdict (verdict): Roma → Green Book. Reclaims Roma after the souring of the Netflix conversation, calling it a masterpiece.
    “I really feel like we've gotten so sour about it.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 1:08:52 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. verdict (verdict): Roma → A Star Is Born. The Roma versus A Star Is Born matchup felt natural and easy, and far from the Green Book conversation.
    “there's so many, the Roma versus Starborn thing felt so natural and easy to me, and that feels like a 1000000 miles away right now.”
    The Big Picture · Instant Reactions to a Truly Ludicrous Golden Globes | The Oscars Show (Ep. 115) · 0:11:57 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. verdict (verdict): Roma → A Star Is Born. Globes moving away from critics' picks is a problem for Roma as well as Star.
    “then I think that's a problem for Roma as well as Star is born.”
    The Big Picture · Instant Reactions to a Truly Ludicrous Golden Globes | The Oscars Show (Ep. 115) · 0:56:14 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)

what-if (2)

  1. what-if (what-if): Roma → Captain Marvel. Predicts the Academy will honor Netflix and superhero films later, and for lesser movies.
    “So best picture for Captain Marvel 3 and best picture for Roma 5.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:26:44 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. what-if (what-if): Roma → Cold War. Might have seen foreign film go to Cold War and best picture to Roma, since the Oscars are nutty.
    “you could see them giving best foreign film to Cold War and best picture to Roma.”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:58:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Roma: Compares the Vista's Roma screening with Netflix: in theaters and on Netflix.
    “if you go to the Vista in Los Angeles today,”
    The Big Picture · Oscars 2019: Instant Reactions to ‘Green Book’ and the Two Warring Academies | The Oscars Show (Ep. 131) · 0:24:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Roma: Never mentioned all night by the hosts until the end.
    “We haven't talked about Roma once this entire podcast.”
    The Big Picture · Instant Reactions to a Truly Ludicrous Golden Globes | The Oscars Show (Ep. 115) · 0:54:45 · Amanda Dobbins (0.50 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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