The Big Picture: ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey
Published 2019-03-08; 1:04:54 by the feed.
As extracted (engineer-sonnet-2026-10-13)
The extraction calls the show “The Big Picture (The Ringer)” and the episode “'Captain Marvel' Is a '90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey”.
Hosts: Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins. Guests: none.
Subject films: Captain Marvel (2019).
On the transcript: No speaker labels; Sean and Amanda alternate quickly and turns are often ambiguous, so attributions are 0.5-0.85. Ad reads (Hulu, Bud Light) are included but ignored.
Added from the extractor's memory, not said
- Wonder Woman, Captain America: The First Avenger, Batman Forever, etc. given without years because years were not said; Captain Marvel 2019 and published date come from the episode facts. 'The next Avengers movie' is not named in the transcript.
Films that came up
subject (1)
compared (11)
Wonder Woman · Captain America: The First Avenger · Batman Forever · Ant-Man · Guardians of the Galaxy · Black Panther · Thor: Ragnarok · Lady Bird · Mid90s · Captain America: Civil War · Star Wars: The Force Awakens
passing (22)
The Avengers · Avengers: Infinity War · The next Avengers movie · Pulp Fiction · Roma · Unicorn Store · Kong: Skull Island · Room · X-Men movies · Animal Kingdom · Rogue One · Darkest Hour · The King's Speech · Ready Player One · The Grifters · American Beauty · 20th Century Women · Crazy Rich Asians · Marvel's The Avengers · Avengers: Age of Ultron · Iron Man 3 · Spider-Man 3
recommended (4)
Half Nelson · Sugar · Mississippi Grind · The American President
dismissed (1)
anecdote (1)
Claims (46)
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contrast (contrast):
Captain Marvel → Wonder Woman.
Amanda's instant reaction is that Captain Marvel falls short of Wonder Woman, a high bar.
“my immediate reaction was this is not Wonder Woman.”
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craft (craft):
Wonder Woman → Captain Marvel.
Wonder Woman did its origin story in the first 30 minutes and moved on; Captain Marvel spends the whole film on it.
“What Wonder Woman did was gave us the best version of its origin story in the 1st 30 minutes, and then we were kind of done with that.”
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lineage (lineage):
Captain Marvel → Captain America: The First Avenger.
The film goes back to the Steve Rogers style of origin story.
“here's how Steve Rogers became a super soldier style of storytelling.”
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lineage (lineage):
Jude Law → Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Law's Yon-Rogg is introduced as an Obi-Wan-style mentor figure.
“we meet him as a sort of Obi-Wan Kenobi-esque mentor figure in Vere's life.”
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lineage (lineage):
Captain Marvel → The Avengers.
The Tesseract, the glowing box, was a MacGuffin in the first Avengers and in Infinity War.
“you may remember the Tesseract from the 1st Avengers film, and then, of course, the most recent Avengers film, Avengers Infinity War”
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lineage (lineage):
Captain Marvel → Avengers: Infinity War.
The film is connective tissue, dragging continuity toward the next Avengers movie.
“this movie is basically a connective tissue movie.”
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craft (craft):
Captain Marvel → Batman Forever.
The prosthetic-ears-and-face-paint alien look recalls the trashy 1990s comic book movies, specifically Batman Forever.
“It felt a little bit like Batman forever at times where I was like, that guy is definitely just wearing face paint.”
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contrast (contrast):
Captain Marvel → Ant-Man.
Each Marvel movie gets its own genre: Captain America is WWII, Ant-Man is slacker comedy, Captain Marvel is 90s sci-fi.
“And then, what Ant-Man is like the modern day slacker dude?”
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craft (craft):
Captain Marvel → Guardians of the Galaxy.
Everything in the film except Brie Larson's polished lead is silly fun closer to Guardians.
“kind of silly fun, kind of closer to Guardians for lack of a better term.”
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theme (theme):
Captain Marvel → Captain America: The First Avenger.
Captain America's plucky do-gooder works because Chris Evans gets to be a good guy; Captain Marvel's girl-power messaging feels falsely applied by comparison.
“when the movie is Captain America the 1st Avenger, and Steve Rogers is this plucky, patriotic do-gooder, we are like, huh, what a good guy.”
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theme (theme):
Captain Marvel → Wonder Woman.
Wonder Woman, like Superman, is a god and needs less emotional complexity; Carol Danvers is a real person who is blank for most of the film.
“Wonder Woman, likes Superman, is a god. And the levels of emotional complexity that we expect from a god are lesser than a real person.”
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lineage (lineage):
Captain Marvel → Pulp Fiction.
Samuel L. Jackson driving around mid-90s Los Angeles evokes Jules Winfield, a clever but surface 90s nod.
“a Samuel L. Jackson character in the mid 90s driving around in a car in Los Angeles, a la Jules Winfield in Pulp Fiction.”
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craft (craft):
Captain Marvel → Salt-N-Pepa.
The soundtrack's music cues are called very surface, such as a guard listening to 'What a Man'; the speaker likes the songs themselves.
“all of the music cues are very surface. A security guard can be seen listening to what a man.”
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craft (craft):
Captain Marvel → No Doubt.
The big fight sequence is set to No Doubt's 'Just a Girl', which the speakers call cute and clever but ham-handed, part of a BuzzFeed-list version of the 90s.
“And famously, I think what will be sort of infamous is the big fight sequence in this movie is set to, no doubt, just a girl.”
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career (career):
Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck → Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck.
Indie-90s directors taking a Marvel job; Sean lists Half Nelson, Sugar and Mississippi Grind as their strong earlier films.
“I think especially half Nelson and Sugar and Mississippi Grind, which I think is one of the best gambling movies ever made.”
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people (people):
Mississippi Grind → Ben Mendelsohn.
Mississippi Grind features a wonderful Ben Mendelsohn performance.
“And also features a wonderful Ben Mendelssohn performance who is also very funny in this movie.”
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contrast (contrast):
Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck → Black Panther.
Sean says he does not think the directors of Black Panther or Thor: Ragnarok sold out, but the comparison to Boden and Fleck is unavoidable.
“I love Black Panther, and I love Thor Ragnarok, and I don't think either of those guys sold out when they made those movies”
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theme (theme):
Captain Marvel → Mid90s.
Mid90s was made by a successful actor and longtime aspiring director rendering memories of the 90s.
“They're made by 2 very successful actors, but also 2 longtime aspiring directors.”
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theme (theme):
Captain Marvel → Lady Bird.
Lady Bird and Mid90s were personal reminiscences of the 90s; Captain Marvel is the Happy Meal version.
“it's funny to see, you know, the McDonald's Happy Meal version of those movies in a lot of ways.”
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craft (craft):
Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck → Captain Marvel.
The speaker guesses the directors built the soundtrack the way a person makes a mixtape of their favorite 90s songs, with every song going into the film.
“they just put all the songs that end up in the movie, on their mixtape”
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craft (craft):
Captain Marvel → Nirvana.
The AI scene with Annette Bening is set to Nirvana's 'Come as You Are', called the most ironic song to choose.
“And come as you are, is like, is the also just the most ironic song to be choosing.”
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theme (theme):
Captain Marvel → Roma.
Recreating childhood wholesale is hard, which is why Roma was such a great movie.
“That's why Roma was such a great movie.”
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contrast (contrast):
Captain Marvel → Captain America: Civil War.
Sean feels closer to Captain Marvel's attempt at a real person than to Civil War, a pop confection.
“I'm actually much closer to this movie in a lot of ways than I am to a movie like Captain America Civil War.”
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industry (industry):
Captain Marvel → Courtney Love.
The closing credits end on Hole's 'Celebrity Skin' and Courtney Love is one of the controllers of the Nirvana estate, which the speaker reads as corporate synergy.
“I couldn't help but notice that the film's closing credits ended with whole celebrity skin and that one of the controllers of the Nirvana estate is Courtney Love.”
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people (people):
Brie Larson → Samuel L. Jackson.
Larson cast Jackson in her directorial debut Unicorn Store, and they also share Kong: Skull Island.
“she cast him in her directorial debut Unicorn store, which you can watch on Netflix in April.”
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career (career):
Brie Larson → Room.
Larson does high-level trauma very well, which is why Room is so effective.
“that's part of why room is so effective is you really feel the weight of the trauma that her character experiences.”
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craft (craft):
Captain Marvel → X-Men.
Expository Marvel dialogue needs a stentorian Shakespearean actor like Patrick Stewart or Ian McKellen, which Larson is not.
“there's a reason that the X-Men movies cast people like Patrick Stewart and Ian McCellen”
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career (career):
Ben Mendelsohn → Animal Kingdom.
Animal Kingdom is where Mendelsohn became a known commodity to Sean.
“I think he really became a known commodity to me when Animal Kingdom came out”
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career (career):
Ben Mendelsohn → Terrence Malick.
Mendelsohn worked long and prosperously before, including in Terrence Malick and Baz Luhrmann movies.
“he had appearing Terrence Malik movies and Baz Luhrmann movies”
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career (career):
Ben Mendelsohn → Rogue One.
Mendelsohn played Director Orson Krennic in Rogue One, in a flowing cape.
“He played a character with just a phenomenal name named Director Orson Krenik.”
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career (career):
Ben Mendelsohn → Darkest Hour.
Mendelsohn played King George VI in Darkest Hour, a bit too in control compared to the stutter.
“he was King George, the, the, the 6th in Darkest Hour.”
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contrast (contrast):
Darkest Hour → The King's Speech.
Mendelsohn's king did not stutter as much as Colin Firth's Oscar-winning version.
“famously the character that Con Firth won for the Oscar for.”
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career (career):
Ben Mendelsohn → Ready Player One.
In Ready Player One he plays Nolan Sorrento, a basic evil corporate villain who still brings flair.
“where he plays a character named Nolan Sorrento, who's just a villain.”
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career (career):
Annette Bening → American Beauty.
Bening is a 1990s emblem, star of The Grifters and American Beauty, whose character was compared to Hillary Clinton.
“Star of the Grifters and Star of American Beauty.”
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career (career):
Annette Bening → The American President.
Amanda adds The American President as a 90s movie Sean did not mention, deeply problematic but loved.
“A 90s movie that you didn't mention is the American president, which is deeply problematic, but also I love it”
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career (career):
Annette Bening → 20th Century Women.
Bening has had a late-period resurgence, especially with 20th Century Women.
“I think that she's had sort of a late period resurgence, I think, especially 20th century women”
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career (career):
Annette Bening → Glenn Close.
Bening is in the Glenn Close zone of actresses nominated many times without winning.
“She's also in the Glen Close zone of actresses who've been nominated too many times than not one.”
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lineage (lineage):
Captain Marvel → Guardians of the Galaxy.
As a prequel, Captain Marvel brings back Guardians characters Ronan (Lee Pace) and Korath (Djimon Hounsou).
“this is, of course, a prequel, so their characters appear in this film again.”
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career (career):
Gemma Chan → Crazy Rich Asians.
Sean wonders whether Chan's role was pumped up after Crazy Rich Asians.
“do you think that they pumped up Gemma Chan's role in this film after the success of Crazy Rich Asians?”
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industry (industry):
Clark Gregg → Stan Lee.
Agent Coulson popping up is the next-stage Stan Lee cameo, an in-on-the-joke moment.
“He is like the, the, the next stage Stan lease.”
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verdict (verdict):
Captain Marvel → David Shoemaker.
Shoemaker's point: Captain Marvel is too powerful to be a good movie character.
“Captain Marvel is not a good movie character because Captain Marvel is too powerful.”
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contrast (contrast):
Captain Marvel → Superman.
Captain Marvel is so powerful that Amanda wants her Kryptonite, like Superman.
“I'm sure she have her version of Kryptonite or whatever?”
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industry (industry):
Captain Marvel → Avengers: Infinity War.
Opening-weekend benchmarks: Infinity War opened at $257 million; under $150 million is called a disappointment for Captain Marvel.
“Avengers Infinity War, naturally, that one's $257000000 opening weekend.”
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theme (theme):
Wonder Woman → Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens.
Both Wonder Woman's Amazons and Rey getting the lightsaber hit Amanda with a symbolic reaction, despite her not being a franchise person.
“I felt the same way when Ray gets the lightsaber in, in the Force Awakens”
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lineage (lineage):
Wonder Woman → Kingdom Come.
Sean points to Alex Ross's 90s comic Kingdom Come, where an elderly Wonder Woman and Batman had a thing.
“you got the sense that Wonder Woman and Batman had a thing, but they no longer got along anymore.”
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what-if (what-if):
Nora Ephron → Black Widow and Hulk (hypothetical).
Amanda's pitch: a Black Widow and Hulk love story written as if Nora Ephron wrote a Marvel movie.
“It should be like if Nora Efron wrote a Marvel movie.”
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Fun items (23)
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fun, about
Captain Marvel:
Brie Larson's wavy hair is so perfect Amanda guesses it took three hours and was set piece by piece.
“guys, those took 3 hours.”
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fun, about
Captain Marvel:
The 90s signaling: a never-worn Guns N' Roses T-shirt, and Carol stealing a Nine Inch Nails shirt off a mannequin as a metaphor for the film.
“steals a 9 inch nails t-shirt and a leather jacket off of a mannequin outside of a boutique.”
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fun, about
Captain Marvel:
The big fight scene is set to No Doubt's Just a Girl while she punches Jude Law, which Sean finds cute and clever but ham-handed.
“certainly the chorus of that song makes it fit when she's punching Jude Law on the face repeatedly.”
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fun, about
Captain Marvel:
The film's 90s is the BuzzFeed list version, a pile of references like the Blockbuster and grunge.
“this is the BuzzFeed article version of the BuzzFeed list version of the 90s.”
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fun, about
The Ringer office:
A Ringer Slack prompt for the most 90s song stopped work for an hour; Dan Devine said Smells Like Teen Spirit immediately.
“Dan Devine gave immediately, which was smells like teen spirit.”
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fun, about
Green Book:
Sean needles Amanda about Green Book; she calls it rude.
“just release green book, though.”
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fun, about
Captain Marvel:
Amanda's favorite 90s relic is Des'ree's You Gotta Be, which plays when Carol visits Maria at the airplane.
“I really, at one point, Desiree is playing.”
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fun, about
Captain Marvel:
Closing credits song is Hole's Celebrity Skin, and Courtney Love controls the Nirvana estate, which Sean calls synergy.
“one of the controllers of the Nirvana estate is Courtney Love.”
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fun, about
Brie Larson:
Sean's tolerance for her running: she is more jogging, but one full sprint shot impressed him.
“Did not strike me as a natural athlete.”
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fun, about
Ben Mendelsohn:
Sean calls Mendelsohn one of his favorite living people and loves his charmed lisp.
“he is one of my favorite living people.”
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fun, about
Talos:
Sean would watch a Talos movie; the villain-turned-comic-relief-turned-emotional-center arc in face paint.
“I would watch a Talos movie.”
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fun, about
Annette Bening:
Three roles in one: Supreme Intelligence, Dr. Lawson, and Mar-Vell, with a debate over whether it is two or three.
“Isn't this like we all contain multitudes?”
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fun, about
Captain Marvel:
Amanda's biggest nitpick: Maria's daughter, six years old then, remembers Carol and explains her whole life through a scrapbook.
“That kids do not remember people from when they are 5 and 6 years old.”
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fun, about
Guardians of the Galaxy:
Amanda knows Guardians only as the raccoon voiced by Bradley Cooper, and Sean suggests she go by Amanda the Accuser.
“perhaps you should go by Amanda the accuser in future podcasts.”
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fun, about
The Ringer:
Amanda wants a pop-up video for Avengers movies noting this actor is also that character; Sean says it might be a Ringer series.
“I need like your pop-up video, but for Avengers movies”
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fun, about
Captain Marvel:
Nick Fury's pager at the end of Infinity War is the same two-way pager from this film.
“the two-way pager at the end of Avengers Infinity War is the same one that he's using in this film.”
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fun, about
Captain Marvel:
A running joke about the origin: some guys were mean to her, then she swallowed all of space and time after her boss crashed a plane.
“her boss crashed it and so she had to swallow all of space and time.”
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fun, about
Captain Marvel:
Opening weekend benchmark: less than $150 million would be called a disappointment, even though few can open a movie on name alone.
“less than $150000000 in the opening weekend would be considered a relative disappointment for a Marvel movie like this”
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fun, about
Captain Marvel:
Sean calls the film a perfectly good time with explosions and lasers, but the pressure of being first prevents calling it another adequate Marvel movie.
“It's a perfectly good time at the movies.”
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fun, about
Wonder Woman:
Amanda rewatched Wonder Woman the night before and still cried at the Amazons on the beach.
“Catch me out here crying about it.”
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fun, about
Marvel:
Marvel is the Super Bowl of popular culture, bigger than the Oscars.
“It is like the Super Bowl of popular culture, more than the Oscars.”
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fun, about
Black Widow and Hulk (hypothetical):
Amanda pitches a Black Widow and Hulk love story, and the Seinfeld-style question of Superman and Lois Lane gets raised.
“Marvel should just do a Black Widow and Hulk movie and just make it a love story.”
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fun, about
Kingdom Come:
Sean explains the Alex Ross series, set 50 or 60 years later with an older Batman in a wheelchair and gray-streaked Wonder Woman, calling it very melodramatic.
“Batman was 58 and confined to a wheelchair.”
The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 1:02:24 · Sean Fennessey (0.75 sure it was them)
Who's talking
- Sean Fennessey (host): Loves origin-story craft done efficiently, Ben Mendelsohn, indie directors like Boden and Fleck, and Annette Bening. Bothered by surface-level 90s nostalgia, a rickety Marvel mythology load, and a character too powerful for stakes. Sucker for comic lore and for character actors.
- Amanda Dobbins (host): Loves Wonder Woman and its emotional impact, and responds to women on screen. Not a comics or sci-fi person and not an origin-story fan. Sucker for celebrity and a 90s song, and for Annette Bening.
The show's recurring bits
- Drafts: Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument.
- Hall of Fame: A star's or director's best, ranked and argued.
- Countdowns: Ranked lists, top five or top ten.
Names the transcriber got wrong
- Sean Fantasy → Sean Fennessey
- Cree/Scroll → Kree/Skrull
- Jan Rog/Jan Rag → Yon-Rogg
- Annette Benning/Bending/Betting → Annette Bening
- Marvell → Mar-Vell
- SHIEL → S.H.I.E.L.D.
- Ben Mendelssohn → Ben Mendelsohn
- Jime/Jiamond Hansu → Djimon Hounsou
- Phil Colson → Phil Coulson
- Karath/Carafe → Korath
- Anna Bowden/Ryan Flex → Anna Boden/Ryan Fleck
- Maria Rambo → Maria Rambeau
- Stanley/Stan lease → Stan Lee
- Desiree → Des'ree
- whole celebrity skin → Hole's Celebrity Skin
- Con Firth → Colin Firth
- David Michaud → David Michod
- Nora Efron → Nora Ephron
- Ray → Rey
- Appatown → Apatow
- Ladybird → Lady Bird
- Andrew Godadero → Andrew Gruttadaro
- Chad → Chat (sign-off)