Zoe Saldana
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q190162: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.
Counted as actor. The films the hosts said they acted in, which the two lists below run through too: Avatar (2009); Star Trek (2009); Colombiana (2011); Guardians of the Galaxy (2014); (generation list); Star Trek (films, via Zoe Saldana).
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
The Wizard of Oz (1939): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they acted in:
The Wizard of Oz ⇒ Avatar (the host's read).
Avatar is described as a deep Wizard of Oz homage.
“In case you were wondering, this is a deep wizard of a homage, among other things.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:42:25 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they acted in:
The Wizard of Oz ⇒ Avatar (the host's read).
Avatar is an original story but inspired by Oz and John Ford movies.
“It's just like hugely inspired by not just the Wizard of Oz, but like lots of John Ford movies”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:53:51 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Titanic (1997): 2 lines
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career (career) · through Avatar (2009), which they acted in:
Titanic ⇒ Avatar (the host's read).
Avatar could only be made because Titanic gave Cameron the clout.
“I'd never have gotten to make it if he hadn't made Titanic.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:09:04 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict) · through Avatar (2009), which they acted in:
Titanic ⇒ Avatar (the host's read).
Titanic made Cameron so successful that Hollywood let him do anything.
“needed to have this extraordinary amount of success over these decades to conceive an execute of something so crazy as Avatar.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:45:16 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Aliens (1986): 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Avatar (2009), which they acted in:
Aliens ⇒ Avatar (the host's read).
Making Aliens (a voiceless monster) is what let Cameron individualize the humans there and flip that in Avatar.
“I wonder if he hadn't made aliens if he could have arrived at that.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:04:08 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Edgar Rice Burroughs: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they acted in:
Edgar Rice Burroughs ⇒ Avatar (the maker said so: Cameron's 1994 80-page treatment).
Cameron's Avatar treatment drew on childhood sci-fi reading, Burroughs and Haggard.
“drawing inspiration from, quote, every single science fiction book that he had read in his childhood, and also Edgar Rice Burroughs, H. Rider Haggard.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:26:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.90 sure it was them)
John Carter of Mars: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they acted in:
John Carter of Mars ⇒ Avatar (the host's read).
Avatar reads like a John Carter of Mars style story.
“Yeah, it's very like John Carter of Mars or whatever.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:26:24 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
John Ford: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they acted in:
John Ford ⇒ Avatar (the host's read).
Same line: Avatar draws on John Ford films and the history of movies.
“lots of John Ford movies and you can see like the history of movies”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:53:51 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
The Avengers (2012): 1 line
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programming (programming) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they acted in:
The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read).
Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list.
“We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017): 4 lines
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craft (craft) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they acted in:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read).
Vol. 2 used a brightly blue Yondu and a bright Milano interior to dodge the washed-out look of the first film's color grading.
“He's just smart about working in, like, I'm going to make his skin so bright blue.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:25:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they acted in:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read).
The sequel deepens Yondu's relationship with Quill so the first film's scene reads differently in retrospect.
“Knowing what you know about their relationship that you learn in the sequel, you know, colors this scene a little bit more”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:26:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they acted in:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read).
The sequel doubles down on Yondu's arrow by building its best action sequence around it.
“And then that the 2nd movie doubles down on it with like building its best action sequence around the era.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:42:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they acted in:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read).
Vol. 2 is the movie that develops Nebula's backstory with Gamora; this film is about Quill and dads in embryo.
“Because 2 is the one that's gonna, you know, is trying to win you over to Nebula.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:43:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Captain Marvel (2019): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they acted in:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read).
As a prequel, Captain Marvel brings back Guardians characters Ronan (Lee Pace) and Korath (Djimon Hounsou).
“this is, of course, a prequel, so their characters appear in this film again.”
The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:43:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they acted in:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read).
The Flarkin cat in Captain Marvel is a version of the Drax metaphor joke, but this film's joke lands better thanks to the cut to his face.
“And you know, you know, the cat in Captain Marvel is like a version of this joke.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:46:06 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Ant-Man (2015): 1 line
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programming (programming) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they acted in:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Ant-Man (the host's read).
After Guardians' success with unknown characters, Ant-Man was an easy next gamble.
“you do Ant-Man after that because you're just like, yeah, let's do Ant-Man.”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:17:03 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)
RoboCop (1987): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Avatar (2009), which they acted in:
Avatar ⇒ RoboCop (the host's read).
The robot-waking sequence is beat for beat the first act of Avatar, down to testing the new body's powers.
“It is crazy actually how much this sequence is like beat for beat, the Avatar, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:38:34 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
Sonic the Hedgehog (upcoming film): 1 line
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industry (industry) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they acted in:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Sonic the Hedgehog (upcoming film) (the host's read).
The new Sonic design looks like it copied Rocket's design.
“I also think they copied Rocket's design for the new Sonic.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:32:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Acting (8) everyone in acting
- actor, (generation list) (The Big Picture, The 10 Most Misused Stars in Hollywood and the Gnarly Magic of ‘Send Help’)
- actor (Neytiri), Avatar (The Big Picture, The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims)
- actor (Gamora), Guardians of the Galaxy (The Big Picture, The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims)
- actor, Star Trek (The Big Picture, The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims)
- Gamora, Guardians of the Galaxy (Blank Check — Patreon, Guardians of the Galaxy)
- actor, Star Trek (films, via Zoe Saldana) (Blank Check — Patreon, Guardians of the Galaxy)
- actor, Avatar (Blank Check — Patreon, Guardians of the Galaxy)
- lead, Colombiana (Blank Check — Patreon, Guardians of the Galaxy)
What was said about them, by kind
career (4)
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career (career):
Zoe Saldana → Guardians of the Galaxy.
Saldana did something similar as Gamora in the Marvel movies.
“Obviously, we've seen her do something somewhat similar as Gamorrah in the Marvel movies.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:10:41 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Zoe Saldana → Star Trek.
Saldana was cast in Star Trek after the Avatar mocap but before Avatar came out.
“She gets cast in Star Trek after doing the motion capture for this, but before it comes out.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:11:50 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Zoe Saldana → Avatar.
Saldana is in Star Trek, Guardians and Avatar yet is not an outright movie star outside those franchises.
“Gardens of the Galaxy and by Association Marvel and Avatar.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:45:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Zoe Saldana → Colombiana.
Colombiana was an effort at giving her a lead role to open a movie, but it wasn't a hit.
“I mean, she had Columbiana, which I do feel like was some effort at giving her like a big leaning role to open a movie”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:45:12 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
craft (1)
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craft (craft):
Zoe Saldana → Burt Reynolds.
Saldana, like Burt Reynolds, is a great physical performer who understands her body as an instrument.
“But Zoe Saldana is very similarly, a great physical performer, an athletic performance.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:11:19 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
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fun, about
Zoe Saldana:
Speaker had Saldana on their Oscar ballot that year.
“She was on my ballot that year.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 1:09:55 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)