Harvey Keitel
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q191132: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.
Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Rocky (1976). Count them as actor (12 films), producer (1 film) instead.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Chuck Wepner: 1 line
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people (people) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
Chuck Wepner ⇒ Rocky (the host's read).
Stallone watched Wepner take a beating from Ali for 15 rounds and was inspired to write Rocky in 3.5 days.
“He's watching Webner Ali in 75, which was the real life version of this.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:19:58 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
The Longest Yard: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
The Longest Yard ⇒ Rocky (the host's read).
Longest Yard arguably started the big-event beats, but Rocky is what made the sports-movie recipe stick.
“which I guess you could say longest yard started it, but once Rocky did this.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:06:09 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Creed (2015): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
Rocky ⇒ Creed (the host's read).
Merchant says Creed repeated Rocky's trick of making you care about the character before the fighting.
“when they rebooted it with Creed, I think they did the same thing”
The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:46:07 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
Rocky ⇒ Creed (the host's read).
Creed closely follows Rocky's structure, but opens with Creed obviously able to fight, unlike Rocky's grim opening bout.
“in Creed, which very closely follows some of the structures of rocky.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:38:15 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
Fighting with My Family (2019): 2 lines
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craft (craft) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
Rocky ⇒ Fighting with My Family (the maker said so: Merchant in this interview).
Merchant says you cannot make a sports movie without watching Rocky and all its sequels.
“make any kind of sports a movie without watching Rocky or indeed all of the Rockies”
The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:45:46 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
Rocky ⇒ Fighting with My Family (the maker said so: Merchant in this interview).
Merchant calls Rocky a template because it beds in character so you root for him before the fight, a lesson he applied.
“a template in the sense that it really beds in character”
The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:46:00 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them)
(the modern sports movie): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
Rocky ⇒ (the modern sports movie) (the host's read).
Rocky created the sports-movie prototype and the modern underdog.
“created the sports movie prototype, like just period.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:05:47 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Bull Durham (1988): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
Rocky ⇒ Bull Durham (the host's read).
Bull Durham took the Rocky motto a level further in how a sports movie is written.
“how can we take that rocky motto and actually go the next level with how we write a movie”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:25:51 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
Cinderella Man (2005): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
Rocky ⇒ Cinderella Man (the host's read).
Rocky set up the idea that a victory transforms the supporting cast too, as in Cinderella Man where he fights for Giamatti.
“by the time you get to like Cinderella man, you realize that he's not just fighting for him, he's fighting for Giamatti.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:28:11 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
Raging Bull (1980): 1 line
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theme (anti-genre) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
Rocky ⇒ Raging Bull (the maker said so).
Scorsese shot in black and white to differentiate from Rocky-era bright red-white-and-blue boxing movies, and producer Winkler produced both.
“Number one, I want to differentiate from the Rockies and all the other sort of boxing movies right now.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:08:55 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Rocky Balboa (2006): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
Rocky ⇒ Rocky Balboa (the host's read).
The little girl Marie from Rocky grows up to be the love interest in Rocky Balboa.
“she then becomes the Rocky Balboa love interest.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:14:31 · Van Lathan (0.45 sure it was them)
The Karate Kid (1984): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as Stallone's pick for Paulie:
Rocky ⇒ The Karate Kid (the host's read).
Rocky is eight years before Karate Kid, which is called the 2.0 version of the same underdog story but a completely different movie in every respect.
“We're 8 years away from karate kid, which is the next, the 2.0 version of this movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:11:32 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Producing (1) everyone in producing
- co-producer, Reservoir Dogs (The Rewatchables, ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
Acting (20) everyone in acting
- actor (Judas), The Last Temptation of Christ (Blank Check with Griffin & David, The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie)
- actor, The Piano (Blank Check with Griffin & David, An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens)
- actor, Bad Lieutenant (The Rewatchables, A CR Month Mailbag!)
- actor (Judas), The Last Temptation of Christ (The Rewatchables, ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey)
- actor (the Wolf), Pulp Fiction (The Rewatchables, ‘Pulp Fiction’ (Part 2) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- actor, Reservoir Dogs (The Rewatchables, ‘Pulp Fiction’ (Part 2) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- actor, Taxi Driver (The Rewatchables, ‘Pulp Fiction’ (Part 2) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- actor, The Piano (The Rewatchables, ‘Pulp Fiction’ (Part 2) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- actor, Bad Lieutenant (The Rewatchables, ‘Pulp Fiction’ (Part 2) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- actor, The Color of Money (The Rewatchables, ‘Pulp Fiction’ (Part 2) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- actor (Mr. White), Reservoir Dogs (The Rewatchables, ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- actor, Thelma & Louise (The Rewatchables, ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- actor, Bugsy (The Rewatchables, ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- actor, Bad Lieutenant (The Rewatchables, ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- actor, The Piano (The Rewatchables, ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- actor, Pulp Fiction (The Rewatchables, ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- actor, The War with Grandpa (Blank Check — Patreon, Mank with Sean Fennessey (Ad-Free))
- star, Clockers (Blank Check — Patreon, Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free))
- originally cast, fired and replaced, Eyes Wide Shut (Blank Check — Patreon, Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free))
- actor who walked off / was fired, Eyes Wide Shut (Blank Check — Patreon, The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free))
Other (1) everyone in other
- Stallone's pick for Paulie, Rocky (The Rewatchables, ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
What was said about them, by kind
career (4)
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career (career):
Harvey Keitel → Bad Lieutenant.
Keitel's Apex is Bad Lieutenant, 90s, with Mets torture; Taxi Driver and The Piano suggested.
“It's somewhere in the 90s because of the Mets, the way the Mets are torturing him in that movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Pulp Fiction’ (Part 2) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 2:04:24 · unknown (0.00 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Harvey Keitel → Reservoir Dogs.
Keitel signed on as co-producer and paid for casting sessions that found Buscemi and Madsen.
“Signs on as a co-producer.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:21:23 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Harvey Keitel → Thelma & Louise.
The hosts list Keitel's run of 91-94 films.
“Yeah. Thelma and Louise.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:22:58 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Harvey Keitel → Bad Lieutenant.
Bill relates to Keitel's Bad Lieutenant character via listening to Mets games.
“Bad Lieutenant is amazing if you haven't seen that movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:23:32 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
people (2)
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people (casting):
Harvey Keitel → New York, New York.
Keitel's Judas is a better version of what De Niro's Jimmy Doyle is trying to be, without charm.
“Keitel's presence in this feels like a better version of what Jimmy Doyle is trying to be without trying to make him charming.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 1:02:01 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (actors walking out):
Harvey Keitel → Christopher Plummer.
Keitel's Eyes Wide Shut walkout is paired with Plummer's rant about Malick.
“it's like that incredible clip of Christopher Plummer talking about working with Malik on the new world”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:25:46 · Patton Oswalt (0.40 sure it was them)
what-if (1)
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what-if (what-if):
Paulie → Harvey Keitel.
Stallone wanted Harvey Keitel as Paulie, probably a better movie.
“Stallone wanted Harvard Kitella's Polly.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:20:27 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
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fun, about
Harvey Keitel:
Keitel's Brooklyn-accented, red-haired Judas earned a Razzie nomination, which hosts defend; Scorsese wanted him to embody violence and anger.
“I wanted him to embody like violence and anger.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:59:12 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Harvey Keitel:
Keitel supposedly told Kubrick to go fuck himself on Eyes Wide Shut after 27 takes of walking through a door.
“Kubrick made him walk through a door 27 times”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:25:20 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)