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contrast (contrast):
Iron Man 2 → Beverly Hills Cop II.
Iron Man 1 was a straight movie subverted from within by a loose lead, like Beverly Hills Cop; the sequel was written as comedy from the start, like Beverly Hills Cop II, so nothing is subversive.
“The problem with this movie is they tried to write it from as a comedy from the get go.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 1:01:16 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Beverly Hills Cop.
The first is workaday in the Walter Hill style; the Tony Scott second is overcranked and stylized.
“Walter Hill style, you know?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 1:01:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
people (producer excess):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Don Simpson.
Ryan says he thinks of the sequel as directed by Simpson and Bruckheimer because of their 80s cocaine excess.
“I kind of think of this one as directed by Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer because it has all of the 80s cocaine excess that I associate with them during this decade.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:03:10 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
A Premiere magazine piece says the script was rewritten dozens of times, finalized three weeks before production, with a 10-week shoot stretching to 20.
“Cop 2 ate up the energy of 2 executive producers, 2 producers, one director, 6 writers, and various productive production executives of personnel at Paramount.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:03:53 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them) -
unmapped (fish out of water vs showcase):
Beverly Hills Cop → Beverly Hills Cop II.
The first film has a coherent story and fish-out-of-water appeal; the sequel is a showcase of Eddie doing bits.
“The 1st movie has like a much more coherent story.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:05:01 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Harold Faltermeyer → Beverly Hills Cop II.
Faltermeyer's score opens the robbery with suspense before the comedy loosens up.
“It just kicks off with the, da, da, da, na, na, na, na, na, na, it's, it just feels, there's a little suspense in it.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:07:16 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (sequel scarcity):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Police Academy 4.
Cop II was the only sequel in the 1987 domestic top 20-25; the next was Police Academy 4 at 44th.
“This is the only sequel in the top 20, top 25, where it's not until Police Academy 4, which was the 44th biggest movie that year.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:10:45 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Murphy's original pitch was a Testarossa and a Beverly Hills gun club; the studio first considered England/Scotland Yard and a TV series, but Murphy refused both.
“Murphy's ideas was that that Folish should have a testeras, Rosa Ferrari, and that there should be something at the Beverly Hills gun club.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:12:43 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them) -
lineage (TV adaptation precedent):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
The studio floated a TV series version like what happened with Ferris Bueller.
“they were talking about making it into a TV show, which was kind of like the way Ferris Bueller went and stuff like that.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:13:20 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (director hired off a hit):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Top Gun.
Tony Scott came to Cop II fresh off Top Gun, the biggest movie of 1986.
“Tony Scott has Top Gun, which is, you know, the biggest movie of 1986, basically.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:13:34 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Eddie Murphy himself called it the most successful mediocre picture in history, a half-assed rehash that was less spontaneous. Both hosts disagree and say they love it.
“Beverly Hills cop 2 was probably the most successful mediocre picture in history.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:16:54 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them) -
unmapped (star power on set):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Fast & Furious (series).
Cop II is likened to the domino that taught stars they can be late, improvise, and force productions to scramble, as with Vin Diesel's approval of action sequences.
“You could be late. You can improvise and like they just have to scramble to make it work because you're the price of admission.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:16:55 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them) -
unmapped (set behavior):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Cobra.
The Stallone Cobra stories about nobody being allowed to talk to him mirror the star-run chaos on Cop II.
“And we did Cobra a few months ago and there was the Stallone stories about nobody in the set was allowed to talk to them or interact with them and it just everybody had lost their mind at this point.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:17:01 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
unmapped (Eddie Murphy run):
Beverly Hills Cop II → 48 Hrs..
The Rewatchables has covered 48 Hrs., Cop I, Cop II, Coming to America; only Trading Places is left; Simmons prefers 48 Hrs. personally.
“I think, the 48 hours is my personal favorite.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:18:26 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
unmapped (spinoff idea):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Hobbs & Shaw.
Rosewood and Taggart could be a limited series spinoff today, like a Hobbs and Shaw.
“there's definitely a rosewood and Taggart, like, limited series. Like a Hobbs and Shaw type of thing.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:20:04 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them) -
unmapped (rewatchability):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Beverly Hills Cop.
Not better, but more rewatchable than the first because sleeker with no dead spots or open questions.
“I don't think it's a better movie, but I actually think it's a more rewatchable movie because it's sleeker.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:21:30 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them) -
unmapped (top-20 neighbors):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Dirty Dancing.
The 1987 top 20 includes Fatal Attraction, Lethal Weapon, RoboCop, Predator and others, putting Cop II as the third biggest.
“Three Men and a Baby, Fatal Attraction, Beverly Hills Cop 2.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:26:21 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Most rewatchable scene: Axel flashes a badge, claims to be from the city, and shuts down a construction site because the Andersons changed the plans; the foreman says the house is as round as a donut.
“They're not supposed to be any right angles on this building.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:28:29 · Eddie Murphy (0.90 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Most rewatchable scene: Axel at the gun club pleading for his daughters Monique and Unique; Simmons calls it a fucking classic.
“I'd like to see my kids, Monique and Unique again, fucking classic.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:30:04 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Best quote candidate: the Gerald Ford lookalike in the strip club; Simmons says he still doesn't know why it's funny after all these years.
“President Gerald Ford is so fucking funny.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:31:52 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
The fish tank fingerprint scene at Rosewood's apartment, with the Cobra poster; they could have spent 20 minutes in it.
“I could have spent 20 minutes in this scene.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:32:17 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
The sequence climaxes with Eddie Murphy handing a cement truck to Chris Rock at the Playboy Mansion, called one of the most 80s scenes.
“it culminates with Eddie Murphy giving a cement truck to Chris Rock.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:33:01 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them) -
unmapped (racetrack crosscutting):
Tony Scott → Beverly Hills Cop II.
Scott's signature crosscutting with running horses defines the racetrack robbery.
“Nobody loved crosscutting with running horses more than Tony Scott.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:33:46 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
unmapped (Brigitte Nielsen / Tony Scott):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Cobra.
Nielsen wore a terrible wig in Cobra, a film the show covered, and had worked with Stallone and Schwarzenegger before this one.
“She's in Cobra with a terrible wig on, which we covered in the Cobra watchables than this.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:35:51 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Bob Seger → Beverly Hills Cop II.
Seger's 'Shakedown' praised as an opening song drawn from the film's crime-in-the-city theme.
“the opening song of a movie being thematically drawn from the movie itself.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:38:34 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Ages the best: the opening song 'Shakedown' by Bob Seger; Simmons wants more theme songs thematically drawn from the movie, like running away from crime in the city.
“We just don't have, we used to do things in this country.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:38:43 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Ages the best: Producer Craig plays the Faltermeyer opening and Simmons says it makes him want to rob a jewelry store; they plan to end pods with a 45-second Craig song.
“Makes me want to rob a jewelry store.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:40:08 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
George Michael → Beverly Hills Cop II.
George Michael's 'I Want Your Sex' is called an amazing 80s song used perfectly in the film.
“It's used perfectly in this.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:40:56 · Bill Simmons (0.45 sure it was them) -
what-if (alphabet killer what-if):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Zodiac.
Fincher could have taken the alphabet-crimes concept further, and the idea is likened to a limited series with an endgame of Z.
“I think Fincher could have taken this to a whole other level.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:43:38 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Casting what-if: Bronson Pinchot and Lisa Eilbacher missing; Pinchot was filming Perfect Strangers, and Simmons says Don Simpson should have made two calls and called a drug dealer. Hopper was wanted for the Stockwell role.
“Yeah, seriously, all Donna had to do was make 2 calls and call one drug dealer.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:46:24 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (that-guy graduation):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Midnight Run.
John Ashton was a that guy until Midnight Run.
“John Ashton, I think, was that guy until Midnight Run.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:47:57 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Best that guy winner: the gun club receptionist (Valerie Wildman), later Dylan McKay's father's fiancee on 90210, who turns out to be an FBI agent.
“I think she's the winner.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:47:59 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Casting what-if: Simmons wants Geena Davis in the thin role of Bogomil's daughter Jan, and Ryan wants Lisa Bonet as a strip-club character killed to fuel Axel's revenge, an 11-minute sidetrack.
“It's just 2 phone calls and then she's like, I've solved where this guy's visa came from?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:51:10 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if plot):
Beverly Hills Cop II → The Last Boy Scout.
Simmons's Lisa Bonet revenge subplot is called a competition of 48 Hrs. and The Last Boy Scout.
“Essentially, I'm competition of 48 hours and last Boy Scout.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:52:27 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Trivia: the license plate 2GAT123 is apparently the license-plate equivalent of the 555 phone number, appearing in other LA stories.
“is apparently the license plate equivalent of the 555 phone number.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:53:54 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
unmapped (easter egg):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Cobra.
Rosewood has a Cobra poster in his apartment, which is funny given Scott and Nielsen's off-screen story.
“He's got the Cobra poster in his room, and meanwhile, Tony Scott is...”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:54:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Apex Mountain: the cement truck shows up 12 seconds after Axel says go get us a car, which Ryan calls one of the worst edits in an Eddie Murphy movie.
“And 12 seconds later, there's a cement truck.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:59:16 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them) -
theme (scrapped premise):
Beverly Hills Cop II → The Rock.
The abandoned England/Scotland Yard concept with Sean Connery became the backbone of The Rock a decade later.
“initially written Beverly Hills Cop 2 to be Eddie Murphy in England, solving crimes with Sean Connery, actually, which basically, I think, winds up being like essentially the backbone for what the rock is 10 years later or whatever.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:00:18 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (Detroit what-if):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Beverly Hills Cop III.
Both suggest cop three should have sent Rosewood and Taggart to Detroit, with Axel in a hospital bed.
“I kind of think they always missed out on sending Rosewood and Taggart to Detroit.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:00:42 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
unmapped (limited-role star):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Fast & Furious (series).
Eddie in four scenes for Cop III is compared to The Rock's reduced role in Fast Six.
“I can only be in 4 scenes.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:01:03 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Eddie's wearable memorabilia: Ryan picks the Detroit Lions jacket as the easy, era-defining choice; Simmons would take the Testarossa and Dean Stockwell's mustache.
“I'm going Lion's jacket.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:02:31 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
verdict (who won the movie):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Tony Scott.
Ryan argues Tony Scott could win the movie for his distinctiveness, even though the answer is Murphy.
“I think you could make the argument that Tony Scott does because it's just so distinctively.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:02:44 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Who won the movie: Rosewood and Taggart or Tony Scott can make cases, but the answer is Eddie Murphy.
“Now, the answer is Eddie Murphy, but you're right.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:02:49 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (sequel adds cast):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Lethal Weapon.
By the mid-90s sequels learned to add stars (Pesci in Lethal Weapon, Jackson in Die Hard 3); Cop sequels just ran it back.
“You have to have Joe Pesci join Lethal Weapon, and you have to try to bring in Chris Rock. You get Sam Jackson in Die Hard 3.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:03:31 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Beverly Hills Cop II:
Double-feature style pitch: Axel is brought to LA as a consultant on a cop movie and discovers it is laundering drug money. Simmons adds Don Simpson with a giant pile of cocaine.
“Then we could have just had Don Simpson in the movie with a giant pile of cocaine.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:05:12 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (sequel quality):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Austin Powers.
Craig is unsure whether the sequel is better than the first, like Austin Powers.
“I don't know if the 2nd one's better than the first, like Austin Powers, but I enjoyed it very much.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:05:28 · Craig Horlbeck (0.80 sure it was them) -
unmapped (next-episode tease):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Internal Affairs.
The hosts tease dirty-cop episodes coming up including Internal Affairs.
“until we do internal affairs.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:07:47 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (what a sequel could be):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Fletch Lives.
Chris cites Beverly Hills Cop 2 as a sequel better than its original; Fletch Lives joins 48 Hrs 2, Godfather 3 and Caddy Shack 2 as disappointing late-80s sequels.
“a really good example is Beverly Hills Cop 2, which is better than Beverly Hills Cop one.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Fletch’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:11:17 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Beverly Hills Cop II → Judge Reinhold.
Rosewood and Taggart are called heroic performances that could have been nominated in Cop 2.
“Those guys are flat out great in cop 2 and all the seeds are set.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:50:06 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Beverly Hills Cop → Beverly Hills Cop II.
One speaker prefers Cop 2 as the better film but is more fond of Cop 1 for what it meant for Eddie.
“I'm more fond of cop one because of everything it meant, like, for the Eddie Arc”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:16:51 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)