Top Gun (1986)

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Wikidata Q110138, film, IMDb tt0092099, TMDB 744: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Tom Cruise as actor (The Color of Money with Chris Ryan); 11 more episodes agree.

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In the store as #562, Top Gun (1986).

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Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

No line says it drew on another film or person.

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

Days of Thunder: 2 lines the host's read ×2

  1. lineage (lineage): Top Gun ⇒ Days of Thunder (the host's read). Days of Thunder is essentially Top Gun with cars.
    “it's essentially just Top Gun with cars”
    The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft · 0:49:49 · Chris Ryan (0.85 sure it was them)

Top Gun: Maverick: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (sequel verdict): Top Gun ⇒ Top Gun: Maverick (the host's read). Chris says the sequel delivered and is better than the first, and Amanda agrees.
    “It's better than the 1st one”
    The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:26:26 · Chris Ryan (0.80 sure it was them)

Connected to

Cocktail: 3 lines unmapped ×2 theme ×1

  1. unmapped (Cruise sing-along): Top Gun → Cocktail. In the best Tom Cruise singing-along category, Top Gun, Cocktail, Risky Business, Jerry Maguire and this film compete; Top Gun wins as camp and 80s.
    “Top Gun probably wins because it's a whole scene and it's Anthony Edwards and It's out of control, campy”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:16:00 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Days of Thunder: 2 lines lineage ×1 unmapped ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Days of Thunder → Top Gun. Days of Thunder is essentially Top Gun with cars.
    “it's essentially just Top Gun with cars”
    The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft · 0:49:49 · Chris Ryan (0.85 sure it was them)

The Color of Money: 2 lines unmapped ×1 career ×1

  1. career (career arc): Top Gun → The Color of Money. In the 80s and 90s Cruise paired a blockbuster with a critical film in the same year.
    “Top Gun and Color Monster.”
    The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 0:45:12 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

Top Gun: Maverick: 2 lines lineage ×2

  1. lineage (sequel verdict): Top Gun: Maverick → Top Gun. Chris says the sequel delivered and is better than the first, and Amanda agrees.
    “It's better than the 1st one”
    The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:26:26 · Chris Ryan (0.80 sure it was them)

Beverly Hills Cop II: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (director hired off a hit): Beverly Hills Cop II → Top Gun. Tony Scott came to Cop II fresh off Top Gun, the biggest movie of 1986.
    “Tony Scott has Top Gun, which is, you know, the biggest movie of 1986, basically.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:13:34 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Black Widow: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): Black Widow → Top Gun. Studios are reluctant to put Fast 9, Bond, Top Gun and Black Widow straight into theaters.
    “And movies like Fast 9 or the new James Bond film or Top Gun or, you know, Black Widow.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:08:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Born on the Fourth of July: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Top Gun → Born on the Fourth of July. Stone worried Cruise, coming off jingoistic Top Gun, was wrong for Kovic.
    “I was worried because, one, he was a movie star and he was coming off Top Gun, which was the opposite kind of jingoistic message.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:21:31 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)

Eddie Murphy: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Top Gun → Eddie Murphy. Asked which 80s movie they wish Eddie had starred in, the answer is Top Gun, though everything changes if he does.
    “everything changes if Eddie Murphy's the star of Top Gun, right?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:11:43 · Wesley Morris (0.50 sure it was them)

F1: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): F1 → Top Gun. Ebert's racing reviews imply a three-star F1, floor set by the filmmaking.
    “Roger would have given this 3 stars, too long racing scene's incredible.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:45:10 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)

Harold Faltermeyer: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (composer trajectory): Harold Faltermeyer → Top Gun. Faltermeyer scored Beverly Hills Cop then Fletch; the sky is the limit after, literally with Top Gun.
    “So he's got cop and then this movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Fletch’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:03:04 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

Legend: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (sentimental pick): Legend → Top Gun. Legend is a weak film kept for sentiment, not argued over Top Gun.
    “You're not going to try to like make the case for legend over, say, Top Gun.”
    The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 0:51:59 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)

Mission: Impossible: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (performance echo): Mission: Impossible → Top Gun. Cruise's magic-trick moment with Jean Reno carries Top Gun-era brashness.
    “a little bit of like the Tom, Top Gun brashness.”
    The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:11:47 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Reservoir Dogs: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Reservoir Dogs → Top Gun. Tarantino's Sleep With Me riff on Top Gun mirrors the pop-theory talk that opens Reservoir Dogs; Tony Scott's Top Gun and artist intent come up again with Madonna.
    “Yeah, nobody cares what Tony Scott thinks Top Gun is about.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:02:23 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Risky Business: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Risky Business → Top Gun. Cruise broke out in Risky Business; Top Gun made him a go-to star, setting up the casting of Born.
    “But the film that made Cruz, the go-to wingman for millions of movie fans was Top Gun.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:21:03 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Rocky: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Rocky → Top Gun. Rocky's urban portrait of American life gave way in the Karate Kid, Hughes and Top Gun era to safer, cleaner suburban stories.
    “It's just a much different portrait of like American life because this is so urban.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:11:54 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

Rosanna Arquette: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if casting): Rosanna Arquette → Top Gun. Fennessey says she could have been Kelly McGillis in Top Gun, any lead from 86 to 93.
    “I feel like she could have been Kelly McGillis in Top Gun.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:35:10 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Sebastian Stan: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): Sebastian Stan → Top Gun. The Goose-and-Maverick sort of friendship is what is missing between Steve and Bucky.
    “You want to be Goose and Top Gun.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:13:38 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Tony Scott: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career context): Tony Scott → Top Gun. Tony Scott was attached to Starman right before Top Gun.
    “And this is right before Top Gun.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 0:35:07 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Val Kilmer: 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): Val Kilmer → Top Gun. Proposed apex: out of Top Gun, people thought he was neck and neck with Cruise.
    “I would imagine that Top Gun is his Apex Mountain”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:49:18 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)

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career (4)

  1. career (career context): Tony Scott → Top Gun. Tony Scott was attached to Starman right before Top Gun.
    “And this is right before Top Gun.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 0:35:07 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): Val Kilmer → Top Gun. Proposed apex: out of Top Gun, people thought he was neck and neck with Cruise.
    “I would imagine that Top Gun is his Apex Mountain”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:49:18 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. career (career): Risky Business → Top Gun. Cruise broke out in Risky Business; Top Gun made him a go-to star, setting up the casting of Born.
    “But the film that made Cruz, the go-to wingman for millions of movie fans was Top Gun.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:21:03 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)
  4. career (career arc): Top Gun → The Color of Money. In the 80s and 90s Cruise paired a blockbuster with a critical film in the same year.
    “Top Gun and Color Monster.”
    The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 0:45:12 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

contrast (2)

  1. contrast (contrast): Top Gun → Born on the Fourth of July. Stone worried Cruise, coming off jingoistic Top Gun, was wrong for Kovic.
    “I was worried because, one, he was a movie star and he was coming off Top Gun, which was the opposite kind of jingoistic message.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 0:21:31 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): Sebastian Stan → Top Gun. The Goose-and-Maverick sort of friendship is what is missing between Steve and Bucky.
    “You want to be Goose and Top Gun.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:13:38 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

lineage (3)

  1. lineage (lineage): Top Gun → Top Gun: Maverick. Maverick's dogfight football is compared with the original's volleyball scene, which hides its doubles in wide shots.
    “I mean, I went back and watched the volleyball scene from the original Top Gun.”
    The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 0:19:41 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): Days of Thunder → Top Gun. Days of Thunder is essentially Top Gun with cars.
    “it's essentially just Top Gun with cars”
    The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft · 0:49:49 · Chris Ryan (0.85 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (sequel verdict): Top Gun: Maverick → Top Gun. Chris says the sequel delivered and is better than the first, and Amanda agrees.
    “It's better than the 1st one”
    The Big Picture · The Top Five Movies of 2022 · 1:26:26 · Chris Ryan (0.80 sure it was them)

people (3)

  1. people (director hired off a hit): Beverly Hills Cop II → Top Gun. Tony Scott came to Cop II fresh off Top Gun, the biggest movie of 1986.
    “Tony Scott has Top Gun, which is, you know, the biggest movie of 1986, basically.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:13:34 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. people (composer trajectory): Harold Faltermeyer → Top Gun. Faltermeyer scored Beverly Hills Cop then Fletch; the sky is the limit after, literally with Top Gun.
    “So he's got cop and then this movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Fletch’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:03:04 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. people (performance echo): Mission: Impossible → Top Gun. Cruise's magic-trick moment with Jean Reno carries Top Gun-era brashness.
    “a little bit of like the Tom, Top Gun brashness.”
    The Rewatchables · 'Mission: Impossible' With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Jason Concepcion · 0:11:47 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

programming (1)

  1. programming (programming): Black Widow → Top Gun. Studios are reluctant to put Fast 9, Bond, Top Gun and Black Widow straight into theaters.
    “And movies like Fast 9 or the new James Bond film or Top Gun or, you know, Black Widow.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:08:06 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

theme (3)

  1. theme (Cruise persona template): Cocktail → Top Gun. The Cruise movie-star template begins in Top Gun and cocktail: a guy who is the best at something and is doubted before proving everyone wrong.
    “Tom Cruise movies are primarily about a guy who is the fucking best at something.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:17:00 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme): Rocky → Top Gun. Rocky's urban portrait of American life gave way in the Karate Kid, Hughes and Top Gun era to safer, cleaner suburban stories.
    “It's just a much different portrait of like American life because this is so urban.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:11:54 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme): Reservoir Dogs → Top Gun. Tarantino's Sleep With Me riff on Top Gun mirrors the pop-theory talk that opens Reservoir Dogs; Tony Scott's Top Gun and artist intent come up again with Madonna.
    “Yeah, nobody cares what Tony Scott thinks Top Gun is about.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:02:23 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

unmapped (5)

  1. unmapped (production overlap): The Color of Money → Top Gun. Cruise shot Top Gun first, then this, then did Top Gun reshoots (shower scene, shadowy love scene) because his hair had grown out.
    “he shoots Top Gun first, then shoots this, and then has to go back and do reshoots for Top Gun.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:15:47 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (Cruise sing-along): Top Gun → Cocktail. In the best Tom Cruise singing-along category, Top Gun, Cocktail, Risky Business, Jerry Maguire and this film compete; Top Gun wins as camp and 80s.
    “Top Gun probably wins because it's a whole scene and it's Anthony Edwards and It's out of control, campy”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:16:00 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (sentimental pick): Legend → Top Gun. Legend is a weak film kept for sentiment, not argued over Top Gun.
    “You're not going to try to like make the case for legend over, say, Top Gun.”
    The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 0:51:59 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (duplicate role): Top Gun → Cocktail. Cocktail is questioned as duplicative of Top Gun: the cocky guy brought down a notch.
    “do you think that there is anything in the in cocktail that can't be gotten from Top Gun?”
    The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 0:54:40 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. unmapped (retread): Days of Thunder → Top Gun. Days of Thunder is tapping the same vein as Top Gun in its afterburner.
    “we're still like in the vapor trail, the afterburner of Top Gun here”
    The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 1:00:45 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

verdict (1)

  1. verdict (verdict): F1 → Top Gun. Ebert's racing reviews imply a three-star F1, floor set by the filmmaking.
    “Roger would have given this 3 stars, too long racing scene's incredible.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:45:10 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)

what-if (2)

  1. what-if (what-if casting): Rosanna Arquette → Top Gun. Fennessey says she could have been Kelly McGillis in Top Gun, any lead from 86 to 93.
    “I feel like she could have been Kelly McGillis in Top Gun.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:35:10 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. what-if (what-if): Top Gun → Eddie Murphy. Asked which 80s movie they wish Eddie had starred in, the answer is Top Gun, though everything changes if he does.
    “everything changes if Eddie Murphy's the star of Top Gun, right?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:11:43 · Wesley Morris (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Top Gun: The original volleyball scene has 58 Cruises in jeans lofting over the net.
    “It's just also a lot of guys wearing jeans, which is just so insane.”
    The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 0:19:49 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Top Gun: Episode correction: Cruise was a Navy pilot, not Air Force, and Risky Business was 1983.
    “In that film, he was a Navy pilot.”
    The Big Picture · 8. I Love America | Do We Get to Win This Time? · 1:09:43 · Brian Raftery (0.90 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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