The Lego Batman Movie (2017)

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Batman (1966 Adam West film): 2 lines the host's read ×2

  1. lineage (lineage): Batman (1966 Adam West film) ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). The Joker's all-villains-together plan is the Adam West movie's plan.
    “it's essentially like the, the, uh, Adam West Batman movie plan, where it's like, I know to finally defeat Batman, call in everybody.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:12:49 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

Batman (Burton/Keaton films): 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. theme (theme): Batman (Burton/Keaton films) ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). The film shares the Burton/Keaton take that Batman is fully broken and has not processed his parents' deaths.
    “this movie sort of has the Burton Keaton take of like, he's fully broken by this fucking thing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:40:08 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Doctor Who: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Doctor Who ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). A Dalek is an iron-lung garbage can with a plunger arm, and the Lego film's villains riff on such designs.
    “But his main villainous called the Dalek, and it's like this sort of like big garbage.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:31:45 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Galaxy Quest: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. craft (craft): Galaxy Quest ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). The Phantom Zone security system gets the Galaxy Quest joke: who would ever build this?
    “It's like the Galaxy Quest joke of like, why would this ever be your security system?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:49:34 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Grant Morrison: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Grant Morrison ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). The film's premise is Morrison's idea that every Batman era is canon, so the goofy and the grim must coexist.
    “which is he did his run where he was like, every single thing that Batman's ever done is canon.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:01:43 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Hanna-Barbera cartoons and Mike Judge: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. craft (craft): Hanna-Barbera cartoons and Mike Judge ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). Repeating slightly varied copies of a drawing makes still characters vibrate, and the Lego films use the same trick on flames and clouds.
    “if you want to have a character standing still, essentially trace the same drawing 3 times on 3 different pieces of paper.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:52:26 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Jerry Bruckheimer: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. craft (craft): Jerry Bruckheimer ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). Its action is played like a Bruckheimer movie, with jokes placed inside as character jokes.
    “Like the joke is kind of treating this all like it's a Bruckheimer movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:05:46 · Griffin Newman (0.80 sure it was them)

Jerry Maguire: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. theme (theme): Jerry Maguire ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). Batman's arc ends with him giving the Joker the Jerry Maguire speech, completing the film's running Jerry Maguire joke.
    “just like it's so good full circle to fucking have him realize I have to give Joker the Jerry Maguire speech.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:33:26 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

Michael Bay: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. craft (craft): Michael Bay ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). The camera work deliberately copies real rigs, down to a constant circling Michael Bay shot.
    “This sort of constant circling Michael Bay shot.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:09:11 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Superman (Christopher Reeve films): 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): Superman (Christopher Reeve films) ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). The Phantom Zone comes from the Christopher Reeve Superman movies, though it is in the comics too.
    “Just from the Chris Reeves Superman movies.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:25:43 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

The Dark Knight: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Dark Knight ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). The Joker's need for Batman to see him as an enemy is read against the post-Dark Knight Joker.
    “It's this thing of like, right, especially post Dark Knight, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:15:06 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

The Lego Movie: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Lego Movie ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). The Lego Movie is where the earnest-Batman bit started, and the hosts doubted it could sustain a whole movie.
    “It's the thing that the Lego movie lashes onto, but you felt unsustainable for a whole movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:03:41 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Wreck-It Ralph: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. industry (industry): Wreck-It Ralph ⇒ The Lego Batman Movie (the host's read). Wreck-It Ralph began the modern IP-mashup movie, then The Lego Movie and this, then Space Jam-style follow-ons.
    “But it's also like Wreck-It Ralph was really the 1st of the modern Ralph, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:07:29 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

The Batman: 4 lines craft ×1 contrast ×1 lineage ×1 verdict ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Lego Batman Movie → The Batman. Studios worry how to do a serious Robin; this film makes Robin the lighter contrast point instead.
    “I think Matt Reeves and Nolan, all these people freak out about like, how do you do the serious version of Robin?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:51:05 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

The Lego Movie: 4 lines lineage ×1 craft ×1 people ×1 verdict ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → The Lego Movie. Warner wanted redesigned Lego figures; Lord and Miller insisted on honoring the real pieces' movement limits.
    “we want to actually limit them to the way the characters could move.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:11:32 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Batman (1966 Adam West film): 2 lines lineage ×2

  1. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → Batman (1966 Adam West film). The Joker's all-villains-together plan is the Adam West movie's plan.
    “it's essentially like the, the, uh, Adam West Batman movie plan, where it's like, I know to finally defeat Batman, call in everybody.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:12:49 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope: 2 lines industry ×2

  1. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope. Lego's 1999 Star Wars deal was its first licensed theme and changed the company.
    “And then 99, they make the Star Wars deal and that kind of changes everything.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:56:17 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): The Lego Batman Movie → Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito. Griffin had hoped the Penguin and Mr. Freeze would be voiced by Schwarzenegger and DeVito.
    “I was hoping it was going to be Schwarzenegger and DeVito playing those 2 parts”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:09:30 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Batman (Burton/Keaton films): 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Lego Batman Movie → Batman (Burton/Keaton films). The film shares the Burton/Keaton take that Batman is fully broken and has not processed his parents' deaths.
    “this movie sort of has the Burton Keaton take of like, he's fully broken by this fucking thing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:40:08 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Batman Begins: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Lego Batman Movie → Batman Begins. The pit-and-rope lesson in Batman Begins is the one other time Batman learns anything about himself.
    “Then it begins does.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:26:28 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Batman Forever: 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): Batman Forever → The Lego Batman Movie. The Patreon order runs Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, then BvS Ultimate Edition, Lego Batman, The Batman.
    “It's Batman forever. Batman and Robin, the Lego Batman movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT · 0:47:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Batman Returns: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): The Lego Batman Movie → Batman Returns. David's two favorite live-action Batman films are Returns and Begins; Griffin calls Lego Batman the best Batman movie period.
    “Which have always been my 2 favorite live action Batman movies.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:00:55 · David Sims (0.70 sure it was them)

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast): The Lego Batman Movie → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Seeing Batman and Superman together here does not provoke the same cynicism as it did in Batman v Superman.
    “I don't give a shit, like, about in the same way I did in Batman V Superman.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:47:32 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (Ultimate Edition): 1 line programming ×1

  1. programming (programming): Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (Ultimate Edition) → The Lego Batman Movie. They will do the Ultimate Edition of BvS before Lego Batman.
    “I think we're doing the ultimate edition.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT · 0:47:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Birds of Prey: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Birds of Prey. The Joker's funhouse set, color palette, bright lights and self-aware humor recall Birds of Prey.
    “I even think, like, the color palette and the use of, like, bright lights and shit.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:19:14 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers. Chip 'n Dale shares this film's self-aware tone and willingness to plant small character jokes anywhere.
    “there's the potential for something funny to happen at any moment if you just think about it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:24:06 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Comedy podcast culture: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Comedy podcast culture. The cast leans on the comedy-podcast world (Mantzoukas, Garfunkel and Oats), making it one of the first films in dialogue with it.
    “This is also like one of the 1st movies that feels like it's like, in dialogue with how much comedy podcasts have started to define comedy”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:07:09 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Doctor Who: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → Doctor Who. A Dalek is an iron-lung garbage can with a plunger arm, and the Lego film's villains riff on such designs.
    “But his main villainous called the Dalek, and it's like this sort of like big garbage.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:31:45 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Fifty Shades Darker: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Fifty Shades Darker. Lego Batman opened to 53 and beat Fifty Shades Darker (46) and John Wick: Chapter 2 on opening weekend.
    “Couldn't beat Lego Batman.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:41:28 · Ben Hosley (0.40 sure it was them)

Galaxy Quest: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Galaxy Quest. The Phantom Zone security system gets the Galaxy Quest joke: who would ever build this?
    “It's like the Galaxy Quest joke of like, why would this ever be your security system?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:49:34 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Grant Morrison: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → Grant Morrison. The film's premise is Morrison's idea that every Batman era is canon, so the goofy and the grim must coexist.
    “which is he did his run where he was like, every single thing that Batman's ever done is canon.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:01:43 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Hanna-Barbera cartoons and Mike Judge: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Hanna-Barbera cartoons and Mike Judge. Repeating slightly varied copies of a drawing makes still characters vibrate, and the Lego films use the same trick on flames and clouds.
    “if you want to have a character standing still, essentially trace the same drawing 3 times on 3 different pieces of paper.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:52:26 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Jaws: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Lego Batman Movie → Jaws. The Phantom Zone fills with franchise monsters, including the Jaws shark and the Jurassic Park T-Rex.
    “The shark from Jaws, the T-Rex from Jurassic Park.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:58:26 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Jerry Bruckheimer: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Jerry Bruckheimer. Its action is played like a Bruckheimer movie, with jokes placed inside as character jokes.
    “Like the joke is kind of treating this all like it's a Bruckheimer movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:05:46 · Griffin Newman (0.80 sure it was them)

Jerry Maguire: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): The Lego Batman Movie → Jerry Maguire. Batman's arc ends with him giving the Joker the Jerry Maguire speech, completing the film's running Jerry Maguire joke.
    “just like it's so good full circle to fucking have him realize I have to give Joker the Jerry Maguire speech.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:33:26 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

Michael Bay: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Michael Bay. The camera work deliberately copies real rigs, down to a constant circling Michael Bay shot.
    “This sort of constant circling Michael Bay shot.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:09:11 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Pixar and modern animation: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Pixar and modern animation. Modern family animation forces classic Hollywood storytelling and clean emotion, but this one still gets into weird shit.
    “this is the thing I like about Pixar movies and modern animation”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:06:32 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Robot Chicken (series): 1 line career ×1

  1. career (career): The Lego Batman Movie → Robot Chicken (series). Director Chris McKay's Robot Chicken background shows in the sketch-like premise, which then gets taken seriously.
    “this is like a funny robot chicken sketch.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:14:27 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

Superman (Christopher Reeve films): 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → Superman (Christopher Reeve films). The Phantom Zone comes from the Christopher Reeve Superman movies, though it is in the comics too.
    “Just from the Chris Reeves Superman movies.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:25:43 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Team America: World Police: 1 line craft ×1

  1. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Team America: World Police. Like Team America, it aims a straight-faced pastiche of live-action blockbuster aesthetics at a toy world.
    “I think this movie has the Team America thing going for it”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:05:29 · Griffin Newman (0.80 sure it was them)

The Dark Knight: 1 line lineage ×1

  1. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → The Dark Knight. The Joker's need for Batman to see him as an enemy is read against the post-Dark Knight Joker.
    “It's this thing of like, right, especially post Dark Knight, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:15:06 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part. Lego Batman grossed about 175, Lego 2 about 105, against about 250 for the first film, so the bloom came off the rose.
    “Lego one did 250.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:34:16 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Universal: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Universal. Universal bought the Lego rights but not the Warner-owned characters from the earlier films.
    “Universal bought the rights and then immediately realized they didn't own any of the characters established in the previous movies because Warner Brothers owns them.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:22:38 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Wreck-It Ralph: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Wreck-It Ralph. Wreck-It Ralph began the modern IP-mashup movie, then The Lego Movie and this, then Space Jam-style follow-ons.
    “But it's also like Wreck-It Ralph was really the 1st of the modern Ralph, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:07:29 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

career (1)

  1. career (career): The Lego Batman Movie → Robot Chicken (series). Director Chris McKay's Robot Chicken background shows in the sketch-like premise, which then gets taken seriously.
    “this is like a funny robot chicken sketch.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:14:27 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

contrast (2)

  1. contrast (contrast): The Lego Batman Movie → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Seeing Batman and Superman together here does not provoke the same cynicism as it did in Batman v Superman.
    “I don't give a shit, like, about in the same way I did in Batman V Superman.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:47:32 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): The Lego Batman Movie → The Batman. Studios worry how to do a serious Robin; this film makes Robin the lighter contrast point instead.
    “I think Matt Reeves and Nolan, all these people freak out about like, how do you do the serious version of Robin?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:51:05 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

craft (9)

  1. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Team America: World Police. Like Team America, it aims a straight-faced pastiche of live-action blockbuster aesthetics at a toy world.
    “I think this movie has the Team America thing going for it”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:05:29 · Griffin Newman (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Jerry Bruckheimer. Its action is played like a Bruckheimer movie, with jokes placed inside as character jokes.
    “Like the joke is kind of treating this all like it's a Bruckheimer movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:05:46 · Griffin Newman (0.80 sure it was them)
  3. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Michael Bay. The camera work deliberately copies real rigs, down to a constant circling Michael Bay shot.
    “This sort of constant circling Michael Bay shot.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:09:11 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  4. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → The Lego Movie. Warner wanted redesigned Lego figures; Lord and Miller insisted on honoring the real pieces' movement limits.
    “we want to actually limit them to the way the characters could move.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:11:32 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  5. craft (craft): The Batman → The Lego Batman Movie. Pattinson's eye treatment is the smartest live-action answer to the expressive-mask problem the Lego movie solves.
    “No, the thing they do with Patinson is probably the smartest.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:39:17 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  6. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Galaxy Quest. The Phantom Zone security system gets the Galaxy Quest joke: who would ever build this?
    “It's like the Galaxy Quest joke of like, why would this ever be your security system?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:49:34 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  7. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Hanna-Barbera cartoons and Mike Judge. Repeating slightly varied copies of a drawing makes still characters vibrate, and the Lego films use the same trick on flames and clouds.
    “if you want to have a character standing still, essentially trace the same drawing 3 times on 3 different pieces of paper.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:52:26 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  8. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Birds of Prey. The Joker's funhouse set, color palette, bright lights and self-aware humor recall Birds of Prey.
    “I even think, like, the color palette and the use of, like, bright lights and shit.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:19:14 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  9. craft (craft): The Lego Batman Movie → Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers. Chip 'n Dale shares this film's self-aware tone and willingness to plant small character jokes anywhere.
    “there's the potential for something funny to happen at any moment if you just think about it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:24:06 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

industry (8)

  1. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Pixar and modern animation. Modern family animation forces classic Hollywood storytelling and clean emotion, but this one still gets into weird shit.
    “this is the thing I like about Pixar movies and modern animation”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:06:32 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Comedy podcast culture. The cast leans on the comedy-podcast world (Mantzoukas, Garfunkel and Oats), making it one of the first films in dialogue with it.
    “This is also like one of the 1st movies that feels like it's like, in dialogue with how much comedy podcasts have started to define comedy”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:07:09 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  3. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Universal. Universal bought the Lego rights but not the Warner-owned characters from the earlier films.
    “Universal bought the rights and then immediately realized they didn't own any of the characters established in the previous movies because Warner Brothers owns them.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:22:38 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  4. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope. The first Lego movie got Star Wars in because that deal closed just before the Disney purchase.
    “they fucking got Star Wars in there because it was like the last deal closed before the Disney Star Wars deal closed.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:26:23 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  5. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope. Lego's 1999 Star Wars deal was its first licensed theme and changed the company.
    “And then 99, they make the Star Wars deal and that kind of changes everything.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:56:17 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  6. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Wreck-It Ralph. Wreck-It Ralph began the modern IP-mashup movie, then The Lego Movie and this, then Space Jam-style follow-ons.
    “But it's also like Wreck-It Ralph was really the 1st of the modern Ralph, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:07:29 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  7. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part. Lego Batman grossed about 175, Lego 2 about 105, against about 250 for the first film, so the bloom came off the rose.
    “Lego one did 250.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:34:16 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  8. industry (industry): The Lego Batman Movie → Fifty Shades Darker. Lego Batman opened to 53 and beat Fifty Shades Darker (46) and John Wick: Chapter 2 on opening weekend.
    “Couldn't beat Lego Batman.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:41:28 · Ben Hosley (0.40 sure it was them)

lineage (8)

  1. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → Grant Morrison. The film's premise is Morrison's idea that every Batman era is canon, so the goofy and the grim must coexist.
    “which is he did his run where he was like, every single thing that Batman's ever done is canon.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:01:43 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → The Lego Movie. The Lego Movie is where the earnest-Batman bit started, and the hosts doubted it could sustain a whole movie.
    “It's the thing that the Lego movie lashes onto, but you felt unsustainable for a whole movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:03:41 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → Batman (1966 Adam West film). The Joker's all-villains-together plan is the Adam West movie's plan.
    “it's essentially like the, the, uh, Adam West Batman movie plan, where it's like, I know to finally defeat Batman, call in everybody.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:12:49 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  4. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → The Dark Knight. The Joker's need for Batman to see him as an enemy is read against the post-Dark Knight Joker.
    “It's this thing of like, right, especially post Dark Knight, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:15:06 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  5. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → Superman (Christopher Reeve films). The Phantom Zone comes from the Christopher Reeve Superman movies, though it is in the comics too.
    “Just from the Chris Reeves Superman movies.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:25:43 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  6. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → Batman (1966 Adam West film). Robin's costume transition and the Kick Butler nameplate are Adam West-style text and costume jokes.
    “It's essentially like a doing the Adam West transition.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:44:07 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  7. lineage (lineage): The Lego Batman Movie → Doctor Who. A Dalek is an iron-lung garbage can with a plunger arm, and the Lego film's villains riff on such designs.
    “But his main villainous called the Dalek, and it's like this sort of like big garbage.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:31:45 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  8. lineage (lineage): The Batman → The Lego Batman Movie. Lego Batman keeps the humor alive as the exception to the trend toward seriousness.
    “And Lego pops up, again, for Lego.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 0:15:22 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (people): The Lego Batman Movie → The Lego Movie. Liam Neeson gives one of the all-time great Lego performances in the first movie as Good Cop/Bad Cop.
    “Liam Neeson, one of the gives one of the all-time great Lego performances.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:46:06 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

programming (2)

  1. programming (programming): Batman Forever → The Lego Batman Movie. The Patreon order runs Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, then BvS Ultimate Edition, Lego Batman, The Batman.
    “It's Batman forever. Batman and Robin, the Lego Batman movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT · 0:47:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. programming (programming): Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (Ultimate Edition) → The Lego Batman Movie. They will do the Ultimate Edition of BvS before Lego Batman.
    “I think we're doing the ultimate edition.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · 2022 MARCH MADNESS UPDATE 2 PRESENTED BY THE CHIP REPORT · 0:47:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

theme (4)

  1. theme (theme): The Lego Batman Movie → Batman (Burton/Keaton films). The film shares the Burton/Keaton take that Batman is fully broken and has not processed his parents' deaths.
    “this movie sort of has the Burton Keaton take of like, he's fully broken by this fucking thing.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:40:08 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme): The Lego Batman Movie → Jaws. The Phantom Zone fills with franchise monsters, including the Jaws shark and the Jurassic Park T-Rex.
    “The shark from Jaws, the T-Rex from Jurassic Park.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:58:26 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme): The Lego Batman Movie → Batman Begins. The pit-and-rope lesson in Batman Begins is the one other time Batman learns anything about himself.
    “Then it begins does.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:26:28 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. theme (theme): The Lego Batman Movie → Jerry Maguire. Batman's arc ends with him giving the Joker the Jerry Maguire speech, completing the film's running Jerry Maguire joke.
    “just like it's so good full circle to fucking have him realize I have to give Joker the Jerry Maguire speech.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:33:26 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)

verdict (3)

  1. verdict (verdict): The Lego Batman Movie → Batman Returns. David's two favorite live-action Batman films are Returns and Begins; Griffin calls Lego Batman the best Batman movie period.
    “Which have always been my 2 favorite live action Batman movies.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:00:55 · David Sims (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (verdict): The Lego Batman Movie → The Lego Movie. The first Lego movie remains the pinnacle for Griffin, a brilliant, clever movie.
    “Lego movie is still the pinnacle for me, though.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:38:30 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. verdict (verdict): The Lego Batman Movie → The Batman. One movie has the best Robin and the only real angle on the Batman-Robin relationship (probably Lego Batman; title not said).
    “Because it also is the one movie that I think actually has an angle on what is this relationship?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 0:28:08 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)

what-if (1)

  1. what-if (what-if): The Lego Batman Movie → Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito. Griffin had hoped the Penguin and Mr. Freeze would be voiced by Schwarzenegger and DeVito.
    “I was hoping it was going to be Schwarzenegger and DeVito playing those 2 parts”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:09:30 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Griffin's thesis: the best narrative ever built around Batman, with the most complete understanding of him as a character.
    “I think this is the best narrative that has ever been constructed around Batman”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:01:16 · Griffin Newman (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: The villains list: Conan O'Brien as the Riddler, Mantzoukas as Scarecrow, Garfunkel and Oats as Poison Ivy and Clayface, Doug Benson as Bane.
    “Conan O'Brien plays the Riddler.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:07:04 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: The whole movie takes place on a table, and the kid's threat is pulling two pushed-together tables apart.
    “So this is setting up the, like, without cutting out the real world from the 1st movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:09:53 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Mariah Carey is the mayor for no stated reason.
    “Mariah Carey, inexplicably the mayor.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:10:18 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Watch the scene where Batman microwaves lobster Thermidor, types 20 minutes, and corrects himself; the hosts also like the lighting of the microwave.
    “And then he types 20 and then he goes, not 20 minutes stupid.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:19:12 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Lego film rule: animators scanned in every real Lego piece and had to build everything so it could physically exist.
    “So they essentially like scanned in every Lego block shape or piece type that exists.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:19:41 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  7. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Popcorn is made of big white balls because they could not make new pieces and had to find the closest existing one.
    “So they like weren't allowed to make new pieces.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:21:06 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  8. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Batman has a wall of dead parents, a Crime Alley photo, and only drops his guard talking to the pictures.
    “This wall of dead parents.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:21:35 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  9. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Lego hair pieces swap for a wind-blown version when a megaphone hits a character in the face.
    “they switch the hairpiece to a hairpiece that looks wind blown.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:34:51 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  10. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Bar graph of Batman's happiness index versus days without crime goes straight down, an Adam West-style joke.
    “You saw that the bar graph that was Batman's happiness index versus days without crime.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:37:06 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  11. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Alfred rolls in on a spot labeled Kick Butler, a pure Adam West-style text joke.
    “the nameplate above it said Kick Butler.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:44:10 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  12. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Robin has not figured out Batman and Bruce Wayne are the same person: Bruce Wayne lives in Batman's attic, and Batman says Bruce told him it's okay to hang out.
    “he has to be like, uh, Bruce told me it's okay for you to hang out with me.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:45:11 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  13. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Animators keep the Lego limits: arms rotate and swing but never bend, though shoulders may dislocate to cross the chest.
    “but they'll let the entire arm sort of like remove from the body and turn inwards.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:54:01 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  14. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: A listener built Lego versions of the hosts; the builder, Dave Colletta, became a top contestant on Lego Masters, which Arnett hosts.
    “And the guy who built the figures of us became like one of the best contestants on this fucking show.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:59:05 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
  15. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Lego Masters contestants strategized by talking about careers the way the hosts talk about directors.
    “the way they would strategize was talking about careers and the way we talk about directors”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 0:59:52 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  16. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Phantom Zone includes Sauron as a talking tower, Voldemort turning people to fish, the Wicked Witch, a Gremlin crew, and a Creature from the Black Lagoon.
    “Sauron is just a talking tower.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:00:26 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  17. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Griffin argues the movie is a flawed pick for David because the IP cameos are shallow; the villains get little screen time.
    “Everyone else is truly a cameo.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:09:48 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  18. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: The Phantom Zone guard, Ellie Kemper, is named Phyllis, which is also an Office character not played by Kemper.
    “which also has a character called Phyllis.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:37:40 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  19. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: Box office: opened to 53 on Feb 10, 2017, beating Fifty Shades Darker, John Wick 2 and Split.
    “February 10th, 2017, Griffin.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:40:55 · Ben Hosley (0.40 sure it was them)
  20. fun, about The Lego Batman Movie: The hosts get blind Lego bags from Dave Colletta: General Zod, Blight, Apache Chief, dance-party Harley Quinn.
    “Oh, that's Apache Chief from the Super Friends.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Lego Batman Movie · 1:44:31 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

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