New Line Cinema

Made films the shows talk about.

Counted as studio. The films the hosts said they were behind, which the two lists below run through too: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974); The Lord of the Rings (1978); Seven (1995); The Golden Compass (2007); Mortal Kombat; Rush Hour.

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Alfred Hitchcock: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Alfred Hitchcock ⇒ Seven (the host's read). Se7en is a Hitchcock movie in its pulling-your-chain structure of mystery, reveal and anxiety, and Hitchcock is Fincher's biggest influence.
    “I think as much as this seems like a modern movie, it's also just completely a Hitchcock movie in so many ways.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:14:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)

All That Jazz (1979): 1 line

  1. lineage (cited influence) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: All That Jazz ⇒ Seven (the maker said so). A host recalls a Fincher film the show covered where he cited All That Jazz as an inspiration for the look, maybe Seven.
    “where he cited how much of an inspiration all that jazz was for him for the look of the movie?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · David Fincher Music Videos · 1:13:07 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Ed Gein: 1 line

  1. lineage (real-life source) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: Ed Gein ⇒ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (the host's read). The film was a little influenced by Ed Gein, whose skin masks and grave digging fascinated Hollywood.
    “it was a little influenced by the great Ed Geen.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:17:18 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)

Klute: 1 line

  1. lineage (visual inspiration) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Klute ⇒ Seven (the maker said so). The speaker watched Klute because Fincher and DP Darius Khondji cited it as an inspiration for Se7en's dark look and flashlight-led framing.
    “I watched Clute over the weekend because I know that both Fincher and Darius Conji, the DP, had cited that as an inspiration”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 2:38:58 · Nick Wiger or Mike Mitchell (unresolved) (0.30 sure it was them)

Night of the Living Dead (1968): 1 line

  1. lineage (inspiration) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: Night of the Living Dead ⇒ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (the host's read). Hooper saw the line down the block for Night of the Living Dead and decided to make a horror film with his own ideas about Vietnam-era America.
    “Toby Hooper, who directed Chainsaw Massacre, went and saw Night of the Living Dead.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:03:15 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them)

William Friedkin: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: William Friedkin ⇒ Seven (the maker said so). Fincher drew from Friedkin and wanted it to feel like an episode of Cops.
    “he's drawn from like Friedkin, but he's also, he's, he's referenced like how he wanted it to feel like an episode of cops.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:15:42 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Friday the 13th (1980): 4 lines

  1. unmapped (template) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Friday the 13th (the host's read). The imposing masked killer and the final girl in Chainsaw became the slasher template Friday the 13th and Halloween used.
    “We have that, that ends up in Halloween, Friday the 13th, everything else.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:04:06 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (final girl prototype) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Friday the 13th (the host's read). Sally is the ground-zero prototype final girl later ripped off in every Friday the 13th and most Halloween movies.
    “she's the prototype ground 0 final girl that then gets ripped off.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:06:46 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (rip-off) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Friday the 13th (the host's read). The final girl running to Jason's mom for help copies Sally running to the gas station guy.
    “Friday the 13th rips it off.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:41:15 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. lineage (lineage) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Friday the 13th (the host's read). Friday borrowed the seemingly friendly helper who turns out hostile and the killer who keeps getting back up.
    “a seemingly friendly helper who ends up being not friendly, the Texas chainsaw move.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Friday the 13th’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:46:48 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Fight Club (1999): 2 lines

  1. career (career) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read). Without Se7en's power Fincher does not get to do The Game and Fight Club his way.
    “I think without this movie, he doesn't go on this run”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:27:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)
  2. career (career lever) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read). Se7en's success is what let Fincher make the seemingly impossible Fight Club.
    “But the fight club is him more being like, okay, guys, I know this seems impossible, but I made seven.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 1:05:55 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Halloween (1978): 2 lines

  1. lineage (ancestor) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Halloween (the host's read). Halloween felt like it invented modern horror, but on rewatch Chainsaw is the real ground zero.
    “whenever I watch Chainsaw, I'm like, no, actually this is ground zero.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:03:01 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. programming (double feature) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Halloween (the host's read). Bill pairs it with Halloween to compare how much Halloween cribbed from Chainsaw.
    “I went Halloween just to compare and contrast like how much Halloween, crib done, chainsaw, all that stuff.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1:31:20 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

The Game (1997): 2 lines

  1. unmapped (R-rated proof) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ The Game (the host's read). Se7en's hit status as an R-rated film convinced the backers to fund The Game.
    “I think convinced, um, people like, okay, like, you can make an R-rated movie a hit.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:33:16 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (commercial lead-in) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ The Game (the host's read). Se7en's success gave Fincher an absurd budget for The Game.
    “this is better for me because now I can make this movie at an absurd budget.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:47:35 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

8mm (1999): 1 line

  1. lineage (rip-off) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ 8mm (the host's read). Calls 8mm Schumacher ripping off Se7en.
    “8 millimeter is Schumacher ripping off seven.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:41:48 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Alien (1979): 1 line

  1. lineage (inspiration) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Alien (the host's read). Chainsaw is what inspired Ridley Scott to make Alien.
    “Texas Chainsaw Basker is what inspired Ridley Scott to make alien.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:51:40 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

MTV Movie Awards Se7en parody: 1 line

  1. unmapped (parody) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ MTV Movie Awards Se7en parody (the host's read). The MTV Movie Awards parodied the Se7en ending with William Shatner playing every role and the head in the box.
    “And then Shatner's head is in the box and then he sings a song.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 2:34:40 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Nine Inch Nails: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ Nine Inch Nails (the host's read). Se7en caught industrial rock at its peak and led to Fincher-Reznor scores.
    “Fincher and Rezner go on to make this incredible partnership”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:55:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.45 sure it was them)

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019): 1 line

  1. lineage (visual influence) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (the host's read). Tarantino wanted the Spahn Ranch sequence to feel like Texas Chain Saw Massacre.
    “Tarantino wanted it to look like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and had his crew research, Texas Chant, and the whole feel of it and how desolate it was.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’ Live From Sundance With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:37:06 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

Paranormal Activity (2007): 1 line

  1. unmapped (indie legacy) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Paranormal Activity (the host's read). Chainsaw invented the no-money, unknown-actors, one-idea indie horror run that Halloween, Blair Witch and Paranormal Activity followed.
    “This, Halloween, Blur Witch, paranormal activity. We have no money. You don't know these actors.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:02:31 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Saw (film series): 1 line

  1. unmapped (borrowing) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ Saw (film series) (the host's read). Rewatching the Saw movies, the speaker was struck by how much they lifted from Se7en.
    “I forgot how much saw stole.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 0:59:00 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2022, Netflix): 1 line

  1. contrast (contrast) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2022, Netflix) (the host's read). The Netflix legacy sequel replaces the original's horror with influencers and a DEI angle.
    “It was like a DEI, Texas Chainsaw Massacre.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:28:47 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

The Batman (2022): 1 line

  1. unmapped (borrowing) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ The Batman (the host's read). The speaker had forgotten how indebted The Batman is to Fincher, mostly to Se7en.
    “I had forgotten just how indebted the Batman is to...”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 1:28:34 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Blair Witch Project (1999): 1 line

  1. industry (marketing precedent) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ The Blair Witch Project (the host's read). The 'based on true events' opening was smart and was ripped off by Blair Witch in 1999, pre-internet.
    “We didn't know any better in 1999.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:17:13 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre 2: 1 line

  1. contrast (contrast) · through The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), which they were behind as studio that bought the rights and belatedly paid the cast: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ The Texas Chain Saw Massacre 2 (the host's read). Part 2 reuses the framework but changes the tone to slapstick comedy.
    “Texas Chainsaw Messker 2 is basically a slapstick comedy.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:27:15 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them)

Tom Wilkinson: 1 line

  1. career (career) · through Rush Hour, which they were behind as studio: Rush Hour ⇒ Tom Wilkinson (the maker said so: an interview he gave). Wilkinson told an interviewer Rush Hour is what made Hollywood take him seriously.
    “rush hour, like transformed his career.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free) · 0:47:43 · Griffin Newman (0.30 sure it was them)

True Detective (2014): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ True Detective (the host's read). Se7en's influence shows in True Detective from the title sequence to the characters, though True Detective's first season flinches at the dark ending.
    “you can see the influence of of 7 on things like True Detective from the title sequence to the characters.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:15:19 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them)

Zodiac (2007): 1 line

  1. unmapped (why Fincher was offered it) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read). Seven made Fincher the first choice for any serial-killer project, Zodiac included.
    “Ever since he makes seven, if there's some serial killer movie, is getting sent it”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac with Leslye Headland (Ad-Free) · 0:51:53 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

later crime thrillers and crime TV (unnamed): 1 line

  1. lineage (genre influence) · through Seven (1995), which they were behind as studio: Seven ⇒ later crime thrillers and crime TV (unnamed) (the host's read). As an adult the speaker is less shocked by Se7en because everyone since took a page out of its book.
    “I'm not as shocked by 7 because everyone took a page out of its book, of course.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 2:15:39 · Mike Mitchell (0.50 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Studio (7) everyone in studio

What was said about them, by kind

industry (1)

  1. industry (industry): Seven → New Line Cinema. Se7en was New Line's first A production and turned it into a power player after the Freddy Krueger era.
    “this was the home of Freddy Krueger, you know, I mean, that's really the kinds of movies that they were making”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:35:25 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

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